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  • ZuluHero 28 Jan 2013 09:24:18 2,621 posts
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    Salaman wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    Chopsen wrote:
    localnotail wrote:
    Nice guys finish last - and then give you a cuddle.
    That phenomena represents one of two things:

    1. A knowing lack of effort on behalf of the guy to make themselves look less aggressive and therefore "nice" making easier for them to cop a feel by giving a "cuddle."

    2. People who just suck at stuff justifying to themselves and others that they lost because they're just too nice. No. You came last because you're shit.
    Yeah, totally this. Particularly number 2. Being "nice" is often the fake consolation prize for fuglies and losers. The reality is I'm afraid that if someone tell you that they don't want to go out with you because you're "too nice", they are in fact telling you you're too ugly.
    Are you all missing the obvious joke in local's post?
    Only us nice guys get it! Giggity! ;)
  • Chopsen 28 Jan 2013 09:25:45 13,794 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    (alternatively - do you assume every stable relationship involves spousal abuse from the man?).
    Zactly. The implication is that the "nice guy" is a rare and special thing and that all other men are complete bastard arseholes. Now some of us are bastard arseholes, but it still quite an offensive generalisation.

    And anyone who describes themselves as a "nice" is probably a creep that should be a red flag or something.

    And yes, I am aware that this post is logically inconsistent.

    Thanks for expressing interest in my signature!

  • Mr-Brett 28 Jan 2013 09:27:03 11,513 posts
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    I'm nicer than all of you cunts.

    Please don't use the delete button, think of the children.

  • nickthegun 28 Jan 2013 09:30:16 45,269 posts
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    The fundamental and probably only difference between the nice guy and the dick the girl always ends up with is that the dick has the confidence to ask her out.

    I should know. Im the dick.

    Edited by nickthegun at 09:30:31 28-01-2013

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  • Mola_Ram 28 Jan 2013 09:30:39 2,766 posts
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    The bad thing is to see the niceness as some kind of bargaining chip ie. If I give you this much, then I deserve something in return. As the great Eastwood said, "deserve's got nothing to do with it"

    But there are some genuine, straight up great guys I know that are not bitter about it or are just acting that way to try and get in girls' pants. I wouldn't lump them in with the self-described "nice guys" that people are talking about here. Those guys are just assholes under a different name.
  • beastmaster 28 Jan 2013 09:32:29 8,177 posts
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    This is up there with calling a woman cute or pretty. I find that

    "Holy fuck! You really are sensationally fit!" is a much better approach. You'll get a reaction and more often than not it's a good one.

    People who "never argue, always compliment and always do what the other person wants are either straight up acting nice or are just boring people' I don't think are playing nice or just boring. They be lame ass mutherfuckers with no balls!
  • Mola_Ram 28 Jan 2013 09:34:44 2,766 posts
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    There seem to be a lot of manly men in this thread.
  • sport 28 Jan 2013 09:36:33 10,974 posts
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    Here' a tip for you all:

    When you're out on a date, don't focus on how he treats you, watch how he treats the waiter, the barman etc etc
  • Deckard1 28 Jan 2013 09:40:20 19,156 posts
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    Have you been dating men sport?
  • sport 28 Jan 2013 09:41:07 10,974 posts
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    Deckard1 wrote:
    Have you been dating men sport?
    Why would you think that?!?!?!
  • Chopsen 28 Jan 2013 09:41:47 13,794 posts
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    If I had to start dating again, I honestly don't think I could be arsed with the whole trying to impress people. I was out with the woman I know over the weekend who going on about her boyfriend, and the amount of game playing, introspection and over-analysis that was going on in her head was more than I could be arsed with. If I ended up single again, I'd just be a crazy cat person. Much simpler.

    Edited by Chopsen at 09:42:15 28-01-2013

    Thanks for expressing interest in my signature!

  • Mola_Ram 28 Jan 2013 09:42:14 2,766 posts
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    I think the barman stole his date.
  • Deckard1 28 Jan 2013 09:43:08 19,156 posts
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    sport wrote:
    Deckard1 wrote:
    Have you been dating men sport?
    Why would you think that?!?!?!
    sport wrote:
    Here' a tip for you all:

    When you're out on a date, don't focus on how he treats you, watch how he treats the waiter, the barman etc etc
  • Load_2.0 28 Jan 2013 09:43:21 14,981 posts
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    Oh the thread moved on. Whoops.

    Edited by Load_2.0 at 09:44:30 28-01-2013
  • Alastair 28 Jan 2013 09:44:03 12,359 posts
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    Pepsipop wrote:
    Alistair can't post in here then, total jerk.
    Hello Poppet. :)

    Not as nice as I used to be

  • MrTomFTW Moderator 28 Jan 2013 09:45:35 31,650 posts
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    I'm a nice guy, I always hand the lady a towel for her face once I'm done finishing last.

    Follow me on Twitter: @MrTom
    Voted by the community "Best mod" 2011 and 2012.

  • sport 28 Jan 2013 09:46:10 10,974 posts
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    Deckard1 wrote:
    sport wrote:
    Deckard1 wrote:
    Have you been dating men sport?
    Why would you think that?!?!?!
    sport wrote:
    Here' a tip for you all:

    When you're out on a date, don't focus on how he treats you, watch how he treats the waiter, the barman etc etc
    That was a tip you all.....You......YOU!!!!
  • jablonski 28 Jan 2013 09:47:27 1,303 posts
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    I went out to a club on Saturday night without my girlfriend and tried to be the nice guy by not giving anyone the eye and just having a drink and a dance.

    Within 20 minutes of being there I got stuck in a very weird bumpathon where some girl grabbed me in front of her friends and vigorously starting 'sexing' me with violent thrusts. I finally got free, laughed at their cheeky boisterousness, and went back down to the dancefloor - where some girl grabbed me and started doing an odd old-fashioned twirly dance with me.

    The moral? Nice guys do get the girls. But only when you don't want them.
    As soon as I am single again, I'll regress to being as approachable as a plague victim.
  • Deckard1 28 Jan 2013 09:48:20 19,156 posts
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    Just remember sport, just because hebought you dinner, it doesn't mean you owe him anything. You don't have to put anything in your mouth you don't want to.
  • ZuluHero 28 Jan 2013 09:52:39 2,621 posts
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    beastmaster wrote:
    This is up there with calling a woman cute or pretty. I find that

    "Holy fuck! You really are sensationally fit!" is a much better approach. You'll get a reaction and more often than not it's a good one.

    People who "never argue, always compliment and always do what the other person wants are either straight up acting nice or are just boring people' I don't think are playing nice or just boring. They be lame ass mutherfuckers with no balls!
    Yeah tell me about it! There’s this block of flats I walk past on my way to work. I was passing once and overheard a conversation, well shouting match, between a man outside and a girl in a first floor flat. “Go on, let me in” said the man. “No fucking way, that’s the last time i let you treat me like that!!” replied the woman. “But I was on my best behaviour last night” came the reply, “I only hit you twice...”

    I wish my ‘boring’, non-argumentative relationship was more like that. It seems like a far more honest relationship than my faux-play-make-believe one. Joking aside, I'm an OK guy, I wouldn't go as far as say I was nice (I have my moments of being a selfish and miserable bastard) but I will say that thankfully there are also nice girls out there to complement nice guys. If a girl kicks you to the kerb for being “too nice” than maybe the problem isn't to do with you, eh?

    Anyway I know there are nice girls out there, because I married one. And that’s not just me being nice. Dammit! Damned if you do... ;)
  • Aargh. 28 Jan 2013 09:55:20 11,346 posts
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    Pepsipop wrote:
    I think for some strange reason you would be delighted if I was.
    It would explain some of your profile pictures, and neilka's infatuation.
  • Dangerous_Dan 28 Jan 2013 09:58:32 1,643 posts
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    I found this interesting:
    I wasn't a sexist before I understood women. There was a time when I was blissfully ignorant.

    I grew up watching Disney cartoons, I believed in romance and "true love conquers all" etc. I wanted to find a woman who could be my equal, my partner. I believed in finding that one true love and being committed to each other forever. You know, like in the marriage vows, "for better or for worse, through sickness and in health, for richer or for poorer" etc. And I believed that women basically wanted the same thing. Now I understand that this was only possible when society was structured to enforce it. Now that women are "liberated" (and thus at the mercy of their own emotions and baser instincts) this is mostly no longer possible in today's society. Victorian society, or many Arab societies, are examples of how society used to be structured to keep women as faithful as possible.

    I'd like to point out that I am not a misogynist...I love women. But I AM a sexist, in the sense that I believe women are vastly different than men and, according to the standards that men hold for other men, women are inferior as well.

    I must be a bitter loser, right? In fact, I enjoy more success with women than most of the men in this city. I have slept with over 200 women in my life. I am sleeping with 5 different women right now. They are all normal, healthy, well-adjusted, good-looking (8+ on the looks scale) professional women. (At least as normal and healthy and well-adjusted as women can be - most women have issues.) But that's not all. I can go out any night of the week and pick up a woman. I can pick her up in front of all her friends (with 80% efficiency for each approach.) Women will slip me their phone number when their boyfriend is in the bathroom. I can talk to women on the street or in the grocery store and within 30 minutes, I can usually have sex with them right there in my car or get them back to my place. If I have to settle for a phone number, and I meet her on another day, assuming she doesn't flake, I WILL fuck her that next day.

    Let me point out right now that my Modus Operandi doesn't change in the slightest if she single or if she has a boyfriend or husband. I just do my normal routine and I fuck her. Sometimes she brings up the boyfriend so she won't feel guilty when I fuck her because now it's "my fault." Sometimes she hides it from me until after I've fucked her, then she admits it. I can't tell you how many times I've been laying next to some chick, all sweaty cause I just finished busting a nut all over her face or in her mouth or on her back, and suddenly her phone rings and she's on the phone with her man, giving him some bullshit story. This is with NO GUILT WHATSOEVER!!! The sweetest most innocent girls you ever laid eyes on, will cheat at the drop of a HAT. The one thing that most men value most - loyalty - is just not there with women. Women don't think in terms of honor, women don't say "word is bond;" women are basically emotionally driven. If they feel it, they do it, period. Then they rationalize it to themselves later. Nothing is more meaningful, or compelling, to a woman than (1) the way she feels and (2) learning more about her own inner self and having emotional realizations. That's why women love astrology, chick flicks, soap operas, stupid Cosmo quizes that supposedly reveal info about yourself, etc.

    I must be really good looking, right? NOPE. My looks are marginal; I'm maybe a 7. I don't work out (though I'm not fat or anything.) In fact I didn't have any success with women until I was in my early 20's. That's when I decided to go out a lot and start trying to get laid... I was willing to face rejection a thousand times a night, and do it over and over, trying everything, until I got it right. I had to completely set my ego aside. I didn't get laid at all for the first few months. Then every now and then. Then pretty often. Then downright consistently! I'm in my early 30's now and I am basically a sexual god. I wouldn't have even believed this were possible when I was in high school. The ONLY factor that determined whether a woman would cheat was my own skill level. When my skills were poor, women shit all over me. (Everyone knows how women think they have license to be rude bitches in social situations... in fact I understand and appreciate that behavior now.) But once my skills got good, I could fuck just about anyone's wife or girlfriend. And many times I didn't know they had a man until after I fucked them.

    Look, I'm not saying that men are perfect, or whatever. Far from it. I'm just saying, I've spent a lot of my time studying women and interacting with them, and I know how they are. In fact, sometimes I hate knowing it. Sometimes I wish I had taken the blue pill, and never went down the rabbit hole, because now there's really no going back. I didn't want to believe these things... but how could I ever get married now? How could I ever be the chump who pays for everything and blissfully goes through life not worrying about his woman because he trusts her? Look, would you leave your dog alone with a steak? You can't hate the dog for doing what's in its nature. You can't trust a dog, BUT you can trust a dog to BE a dog. Some men are disloyal... but I could *never* trust a woman to be loyal. Some men are bad presidents...but I could *never* vote for a woman to be president. I can rarely expect a woman to regard her own promises as more important and compelling to her than the emotions she feels in the moment. She will rationalize it to herself later.

    Here's an interesting fact. Did you know that the median 22 year old woman has TWICE as much sex as the median 22 year old man? You might ask, how is that possible? If a woman's having sex, doesn't that mean a man is having sex at the same time? And thus, shouldn't men be having just as much sex as women? NO...because most men hardly get laid, or if they do, it's because they "got lucky." But a small group of men get laid ALL THE TIME, and fuck LOTS AND LOTS of women! It's evolution at work. Women follow their emotions, and that leads them to sleep with men like me (who know how to control female emotions.) Women want the top man...so the top man fucks lots of women. That's right - the sexual revolution, feminism, etc has resulted in a return to harems. Women, at the mercy of their own emotions, are volunteering for the modern-day equivalent of harems. Lucky for me!! Heh.

    You might say, "But...but...I'm so nice! I'm a nice guy!" Guess what? That's like a fat chick saying, "But I'm so smart!" As if those things have anything in the world to do with sexual attraction!

    I'm going to give some tips here for the poor sucker guys who are posting online trying to get laid and who are spending hundreds / thousands of dollars on all those whores out there without getting any play. (You bitches know exactly what you're doing, and I'm on to your game!)
    ....
    ...
  • sport 28 Jan 2013 09:58:52 10,974 posts
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    Deckard1 wrote:
    Just remember sport, just because hebought you dinner, it doesn't mean you owe him anything. You don't have to put anything in your mouth you don't want to.
    Jesus, can't you tell I'm hitting on you! FFS, clueless nice guy!
  • Tonka 28 Jan 2013 10:00:36 18,260 posts
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    There was a discussion about "nice guys" in Sweden last year. Two well known female blogger cut a well known emo blogger down for playing the tired "Why do girls like bad boys?" card.

    It boiled down to "Nice guys" are just creeps. They wan sex but pretend that it's OK to be just friends in the hope that the "bad boy" will horrendously dump the girl making her come crawling to the "nice guy" begging for consolation penis.

    They both much preferred the "You are sensationally fit" line of approach.

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • Ultrasoundwave 28 Jan 2013 10:02:38 2,862 posts
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    Mola_Ram wrote:
    There seem to be a lot of manly men in this thread.

    "Look at banner Michael!"

  • MetalDog 28 Jan 2013 10:04:13 23,448 posts
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    Mola_Ram wrote:
    The bad thing is to see the niceness as some kind of bargaining chip ie. If I give you this much, then I deserve something in return. As the great Eastwood said, "deserve's got nothing to do with it"

    But there are some genuine, straight up great guys I know that are not bitter about it or are just acting that way to try and get in girls' pants. I wouldn't lump them in with the self-described "nice guys" that people are talking about here. Those guys are just assholes under a different name.
    This, with bells on.

    Guys who describe themselves as 'nice guys' tend to have glaring problems beyond anything that may come with the physical package. They think they're owed, therefore they resent the people not giving them their 'due' or the people are merely stupid for not seeing what they should give them in return for them not being a kitten-killing bastard. They also believe they can't possibly be the bad guy, or even partially responsible in any given conflict, because they're nice guys, ergo the other person has to be wrong/evil.

    Genuinely nice guys are a total delight and tend not to describe themselves as such because they're self-aware enough to know they are not perfect and thus, like all of us, act like dicks some of the time.

    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

  • Tonka 28 Jan 2013 10:05:24 18,260 posts
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    True story. My wife told me that I look like "Richard in Friends"

    :-{D

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • nickthegun 28 Jan 2013 10:05:44 45,269 posts
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    jablonski wrote:
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    Thats an entirely different phenomenon known as the 'women are like buses conundrum'.

    Other women can smell your girlfriend on you and see it as a challenge. You never, ever, ever get women throwing themselves at you like when you have a partner.

    I read this in a paper in the british journal of psychology.

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