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  • Dirtbox 23 Jan 2013 16:31:06 88,560 posts
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  • Deleted user 23 January 2013 16:34:23
    It's no more a console than any other PC.
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  • Lukus 23 Jan 2013 16:35:33 20,693 posts
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    It is just a PC as far as I can tell. But smaller.
  • Dirtbox 23 Jan 2013 16:36:19 88,560 posts
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  • Deleted user 23 January 2013 16:36:29
    Yeah right.
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  • Deleted user 23 January 2013 16:42:36
    Where are you getting this info from Dirtbox? because in actual offical info released from Valve other than "we are really excited" and the investment news regarding some sort of partnership in regards to piston with X3, Valve have told us nothing in regards to how the steambox will work in terms of OS, specs, steam intergration or even how it will work?

    While i am excited at the prospect of Valve entering the hardware market, at this time we have no data to make any assumptions other than Valve are a pretty rocking company with a good track record of attaining their goals.

    Edited by whatfruit at 16:47:00 23-01-2013
  • Lukus 23 Jan 2013 16:44:07 20,693 posts
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    But you can install windows and linux on it if you want.

    I just don't really get it. There are going to be differing hardware specs available presumably by different manufacturers, which undoes a lot of the potential in a way. Games developed with a certain spec in mind achieving greater things usually.

    I'd rather build my own. In fact, they should just release the Steam booter thingy whatsit on disk and let people create their own Steam Boxes, without an OS, if that's what they want.
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  • Psychotext 23 Jan 2013 16:52:02 61,373 posts
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    Kryton wrote:
    Yeah I get all that, but as problems go, it's not insurmountable...
    Definitely not... but as problems go I can avoid it completely by not actually buying the next gen machine. :p

    Then when I'm done with my 360 I'll move on. That'll take a while though.
  • andijames 23 Jan 2013 16:55:56 2,859 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Does the Steambox essentially self-obsolete then as newer games are released on Steam that it can't handle?
    No more than consoles do, except they call it 'generations'.
    Don't forget these Steam based games will be hardly optimised for a 'games only' machine though will they? They'll be built with PC in mind. Given that then surely the cycle of having to replace hardware will most likely be higher on a steam box than on a console as dev's won't optimise the code as much on steam as they do on a fixed console platform?
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  • Leolian 23 Jan 2013 16:57:56 1,164 posts
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    @LeoliansBro It supposedly works as a media streamer to stream the image and sound from a larger pc, presumably your main "rig" in the office or similar. It is also capable of running some games with low power requirements. It was never meant to run full fat games itself. Info from Giantbombcast.
  • mrpon 23 Jan 2013 16:59:42 33,116 posts
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    Streambox
  • Leolian 23 Jan 2013 17:00:12 1,164 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Dirtbox wrote:
    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Does the Steambox essentially self-obsolete then as newer games are released on Steam that it can't handle?
    No more than consoles do, except they call it 'generations'.
    Have to disagree. Consoles are locked in step with the generational advances, you're guaranteed that games will continue to be made for that console (assuming initial sales are a success etc) because the games are made solely for the console. But games for tyhe Steambox are also amde for the PC.

    To clarify, imagine a Steambox released just before the jump to hardware acceleration. Within a couple of years everyone had stuck a Voodoo card in their machines and all the games being developed used 3DFX. The Steambox would be essentially dead.
    Also, consoles are specifically programmed for so that every drop of potential can be squeezed out of (very) ageing hardware. This doesn't happen for pcs.
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  • Leolian 23 Jan 2013 17:02:40 1,164 posts
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    Yeah. But you'd need a long cable for your video, audio, keyboard, mouse and gamepad. It's like a local version of onlive with a significant reduction in lag and improved image quality. If the price is right, I'll definately get one.
  • Leolian 23 Jan 2013 17:03:37 1,164 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    @Leolian It does with fixed hardware.

    But you've misread that article, it is the main box.
    Which article?
  • Dirtbox 23 Jan 2013 17:04:57 88,560 posts
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  • Leolian 23 Jan 2013 17:05:00 1,164 posts
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    Sure. I believe you. really.
  • RyanDS 23 Jan 2013 17:06:14 11,559 posts
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    If the PS3 and 360 can be classified as consoles when they run Linux / web browsers / media players / film rentals / can use keyboards and so on, I don't really see how the steambox won't count as a console really.
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