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  • lucasmax 19 Sep 2011 10:13:47 363 posts
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    darkmorgado wrote:

    I never played the second one, but I heard it was really stupidly linear, especially compared to the amazing first game.

    Shadowman is one of the most underrated gems of the PS1 era, IMO.

    Yup, thats how I remember it.

    I loved the first one, I remember it being bastard hard later on. And I can still remember the nursery level and the children wailing...

    For the second one, I think they just tacked shadowman on to some bland, run of the mill action game which was the norm for the ps2 at the time.

    I would quite like a remake of the first one actually.
  • psychokitten Moderator 19 Sep 2011 10:34:59 7,794 posts
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    I quite enjoyed Bioshock 2, I knew it couldn't live up to the first so my expectations weren't high. While the story and overall feel obviously wouldn't be as good, it does the gamey bits better and the multiplayer is surprisingly fun. But compared to the first, yeah... :/

    Invisible War for me. It's not the worst game ever, but it's so disappointing as the first is so special.
  • SomaticSense 19 Sep 2011 11:48:45 8,981 posts
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    It's between Gears 2 (I know, I know...), SoR3, Sonic 3, Halo 2, and Deus Ex: IW.

    None were bad games at all whatsoever, but because none of them were anywhere near as good as the originals. Gears 2's level design felt crap in comparison to the first and had too many non-fun gimmicky sections. Sor3 was just crap. Sonic 3 had amazing music but worse gameplay. Halo 2 lacked the 'specialness' that the first had and, again, had less enjoyable level design (less recycled areas granted, but still less fun). And IW was way too oversimplified and forgettable (I mean literally, as I can only remember a couple of corridor sections, and yet can remember just about every part of the first game).

    Bioshock 2 has been mentioned a couple of times already, but I vehemently disagree with that. The level design was better, the combat was better, the environments were better (Fort Frolic aside), it didn't tail off at the end, the Little Sisters were far bigger threats than the BDs, and there wasn't a misplaced boss fight or escort missions. Add Minerva's Den as well, and you have a better ending as well.

    The only thing I think Bioshock one did better, was the story. And of course, we all play games just for the story don't we...
  • Pastici 19 Sep 2011 12:41:07 450 posts
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    I don't get the Gears 2 criticism. I played online for about 3 hours and it was fine but I've never looked at it as a multi game. The campaign though was just fun, nothing wrong with it to be honest. I started playing the original again last week and haven't gone back to it as I remembered the driving level and the underground bit where you have to split up. Sure it was fun at the time but Gears 2 is just more fun, also, colour! May be that I've completed the original three times though, rinsed it a bit.
  • RyanDS 19 Sep 2011 12:49:44 9,726 posts
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    el_pollo_diablo wrote:


    And although I still love it, monkey island 2 isn't a patch on the original.

    You shut your whore mouth!
  • andytheadequate 19 Sep 2011 12:59:11 8,322 posts
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    Monkey Island 2 is far better than MI1, even though the last quarter of the game is a bit poor.

    I found Gears 2 to be incredibly tedious compared to Gears 1. The on rails shooing sections were frustrating, and it just seemed to be more of the same. I think I was just bored with the concept (great...another chest high wall!) by the time I played the second one. Also, I played Gears 1 mostly in co-op, and Gears 2 mostly single player, which probably affected my experience quite a bit...
  • Destria 19 Sep 2011 13:21:31 2,836 posts
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    Star Control 2.

    Just kidding

    Star Control 3
  • Tyggen 19 Sep 2011 13:42:18 135 posts
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    Clive_Dunn wrote:
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    Witcher 2 and Mass Effect 2 are just bad though, even if I don't consider the originals.

    Ah, so we've just progressed to a random list of ( actually mostly pretty good sequels ) and the critical analysis of "they are shit". Brilliant.
    (quote cut to reduce post length)

    Yes, very. I can write you a review if you want, but this wasn't it.

    Ahskay wrote:
    What are the reasons you dislike The Witcher 2? I'm curious. I understand ME2 but i want to know about W2 though.

    I put a vote up for Dragon Age 2 also, forgot about that one.

    Well, it's really strange. It's like CDProject took all the negatives of a PC game and combined it with all the negatives of a console game, put a shiny layer of paint over it and shipped it off. It controls, acts and looks like it's made for a console, but at the same time it's missing a few hundred hours of QA. Like most PC games it looks like they shipped version 0.8 rather than 1.0. At least that's how it was when I played it this summer, could be better now.

    In short, buggy, bad controls, bad gameplay, bad voice acting, bad models. Nice terrain/maps though.
  • thedaveeyres 19 Sep 2011 14:02:00 11,471 posts
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    My personal bugbear, Uncharted 2. I enjoyed the first one eventually, though it took me a while to warm to it, however the sequel took all the very worst elements and cut out the good bits...

    Gone was the feeling of being a treasure hunter, like a 21st Century Indiana Jones.
    Gone was the illusion of freedom in the climbing sections that required a modicum of thought.
    Gone were the actually taxing puzzles.
    Gone was the interesting gunfight environments (that did go on a little long... but then the sequel made them look positively brief and interesting).
    Gone was the believable relationship between the protagonist and his allies/enemies.

    In came desperately linear climbing, protracted shootouts with the same 3 enemy types.
    In came bullet sponge superhumans to replace the zombies... who were dreadful enough to begin with.
    In came a wooden script, and somehow the protagonist forgot how to do a convincing voice part. The script.... oh god.... the script... MARCO! POLO! FUCK OFF.

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  • Rens11 19 Sep 2011 14:09:53 1,454 posts
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    @thedaveeyres. Sorry but your just wrong uncharted 2 was better in every way more varied bigger set pieces better graphics and superb multiplayer

    I'd have to say cod mw2 was my biggest disappointment rubbish campaign and unbalanced multiplayer rocket launcher galore about 10 helicopters/jets in the air all the time unbalanced less skill and far too many random deaths

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  • darkmorgado 19 Sep 2011 14:11:28 15,585 posts
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    Shadow of the Colossus because it didn't run in 1080p (and still can't due to the staggering complexity of the real time fur modelling).

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  • thedaveeyres 19 Sep 2011 14:14:46 11,471 posts
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    Rens11 wrote:
    @ thedaveeyres. Sorry but your just wrong uncharted 2 was better in every way more varied bigger set pieces better graphics and superb multiplayer

    I'd have to say cod mw2 was my biggest disappointment rubbish campaign and unbalanced multiplayer rocket launcher galore about 10 helicopters/jets in the air all the time unbalanced less skill and far too many random deaths

    You're not sorry, you're not sorry at all!

    Also, I have a different opinion to you, I think the only way to resolve this is to have a fist fight.

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  • darkmorgado 19 Sep 2011 14:15:45 15,585 posts
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  • Rens11 19 Sep 2011 14:15:54 1,454 posts
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    thedaveeyres wrote:
    Rens11 wrote:
    @ thedaveeyres. Sorry but your just wrong uncharted 2 was better in every way more varied bigger set pieces better graphics and superb multiplayer

    I'd have to say cod mw2 was my biggest disappointment rubbish campaign and unbalanced multiplayer rocket launcher galore about 10 helicopters/jets in the air all the time unbalanced less skill and far too many random deaths

    You're not sorry, you're not sorry at all!

    Also, I have a different opinion to you, I think the only way to resolve this is to have a fist fight.

    I agree

    Dont kid yourself, Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, hed eat you and everyone you care about!

  • LeoliansBro 19 Sep 2011 14:17:39 44,737 posts
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    UFO was a slow, downward slope, sadly.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Progguitarist 19 Sep 2011 14:19:25 10,507 posts
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    Lost Planet 2 promised alot but it was horrible.
  • Dr.Haggard 19 Sep 2011 14:30:58 4,245 posts
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    Have we had Unreal 2 yet? Oh the horror.

    Also agree with thedaveeyres about Uncharted 2. I enjoyed it but it was disappointing for the reasons he mentioned.

    Gears 2 was the same I guess, though by contrast that was actually rubbish as well as being a disappointing sequel.
  • el_pollo_diablo 19 Sep 2011 14:43:30 2,136 posts
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    ryandsimmons wrote:
    el_pollo_diablo wrote:

    And although I still love it, monkey island 2 isn't a patch on the original.

    You shut your whore mouth!

    :)

    I just thought the second was more interested in pop culture digs rather than pirate treasure digs. It's still amazing though. Horses for courses.

    I'm right about Skate 2 though.
  • quadfather 19 Sep 2011 14:47:32 13,175 posts
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    Wasn't too impressed with Dun Darach

    psn quaddy456, Dark Souls tips

  • el_pollo_diablo 19 Sep 2011 14:48:48 2,136 posts
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    Oh come on, A View To a Kill was CLASSIC.
  • darkmorgado 19 Sep 2011 14:51:24 15,585 posts
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    Horace and the Spiders. Absolute shit.

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  • Genji 19 Sep 2011 14:52:20 19,687 posts
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    Anyone who said Mass Effect 2 needs their head examined. Or to play more sequels. :)

    Anyway... for me... well, Deus Ex: Invisible War is an obvious choice. Power Stone 2. Most of the Soul Caliburs after the first one (yes, I realise that itself was a sequel to Soul Blade). Silent Hill 4. KOTOR 2. Dragon Age 2.

    Can't think of many more tbh. Generally game sequels are better than the first in the series. Case in point: Mass Effect 2. :p
  • Deleted user 19 September 2011 14:54:35
    Curious about the Uncharted 2 dislike. The climbing in 2 was better, the puzzles better, the story had less holes and the combat (although WAY too excessive) was improved. Nothing breaks the illusion of an Indiana Jones-esque mcguffin-hunt greater than you using your one-of-a-kind cluebook to find your way into a secret area that's been undisturbed for 250 years only to find the enemies are already in there (without having disturbed any of the locks) and that they've camped out with machine gun turrets :-D
  • el_pollo_diablo 19 Sep 2011 14:55:10 2,136 posts
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    Don't forget Cannon Fodder 2.

    Alien world...
  • disusedgenius 19 Sep 2011 14:55:53 5,525 posts
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    Genji wrote:
    Power Stone 2.
    God, I'd forgotten about that one. Still ok, but definitely a big drop - some of the big scrolling levels were painful.
  • Deleted user 19 September 2011 14:56:40
    Genji wrote:
    Anyone who said Mass Effect 2 needs their head examined.

    Said it before but I went into ME2 directly after ME and everything I liked about the first had been degraded into a poor Gears Of War-a-like. Story was great but as someone who generally doesn't like action games it was by far the "worse" game.

    That's not to say I couldn't see it having been extremely well-produced, just that it had been altered into an unlikeable product
  • thedaveeyres 19 Sep 2011 14:59:06 11,471 posts
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    The best sequence in Uncharted 2, for me, was the massive dagger thingy in the middle of the room and the mirrors... in fact it's pretty much the only puzzle worth mentioning in the game and the only time the climbing is remotely interesting.

    ...however the sequence is ruined by, "Oh no! The goons are here! *surprise surprise* Guess we're going to have to shoot our way out! (for the 20th time over two fucking games). BANG BANG BANG BANG for 20 minutes. Yay! We're out! What now? Hmmm... let's fight our way through the streets.... BANG BANG BANG BANG. Zzzzzzz. :)

    Also, I agree with the ME2 comments... it's Mass Effect derpified for the stupids.

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  • Genji 19 Sep 2011 15:00:05 19,687 posts
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    disusedgenius wrote:
    Genji wrote:
    Power Stone 2.
    God, I'd forgotten about that one. Still ok, but definitely a big drop - some of the big scrolling levels were painful.
    For me, it lost the feel of the first game. Maybe that improved it as a party game, but I still didn't really like it. Collecting the stones just felt so... arbitrary, like it didn't matter at all. In the first game you got them and were like "OH YOU ARE *SO* FUCKED NOW", but you could barely kill anything in the second. Too much chaos, imo.
  • SomaticSense 19 Sep 2011 15:00:54 8,981 posts
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    andytheadequate wrote:
    Monkey Island 2 is far better than MI1, even though the last quarter of the game is a bit poor.

    I found Gears 2 to be incredibly tedious compared to Gears 1. The on rails shooing sections were frustrating, and it just seemed to be more of the same. I think I was just bored with the concept (great...another chest high wall!) by the time I played the second one. Also, I played Gears 1 mostly in co-op, and Gears 2 mostly single player, which probably affected my experience quite a bit...

    My comments on Gears 2 is 100% based on single player.

    I enjoyed the multi miles more than the first, almost entirely because of the inclusion of bots. It was the single player which, while good, wasn't a patch with regards to level design on the first game. It was too heavily set piece dependent (so I'm staying well away from the new one...) and with not enough focus on the actual main core gameplay which made the first game so good.

    The gimmicky sections didn't work anywhere near as well as I expected them to, with the Panzer Dragoon spoof in particular going on for about three times as long as it should've done.

    It's obviously a good game, but this isn't a 'bad game' thread, it's "The most disappointing game sequels", and Gears 2 was disappointing compared to the purity of the first, especially after all the ridiculous hype.
  • Bahamafish 19 Sep 2011 15:01:17 379 posts
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    I hated the Tony Hawk games after 3.
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