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  • Dougs 7 Jun 2014 17:30:44 78,665 posts
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    That just reads like someone wanting a scapegoat if you ask me.
  • askew 7 Jun 2014 18:33:43 14,450 posts
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    I agree. The author seems to forget the lack of quality centre-backs, cover for Valdes (or even Valdes himself), and Song getting game-time.
  • Dougs 7 Jun 2014 19:13:44 78,665 posts
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    I know I'm a little biased as I love Cesc but pinning a whole team's failings on one attacking midfielder is just weird. Either way, he ain't coming back to us, which is a shame and it'll make me sad seeing him in another shirt but that's football, especially these days.
  • The-Bodybuilder 8 Jun 2014 14:08:50 16,208 posts
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    Actually it was a response to the revisionism going on from barca fans.... you know? The same barca fans that have been booing him?

    As I've stated, any extended watch of Cesc at Barca would end this ridiculous notion that both he and Ozil can be accommodated and that he can play deep. He can't. Pep said it and even Cesc admitted he simply struggles to stay disciplined in a deeper.

    It's just wishful thinking, and bring Cesc back because "he's ours" is the exact mistake that barca did. Then we'll end up unbalancing our squad and diminishing Ramsey and Ozil, and doing to Jack what Barca did to Thiago just to accommodating Cesc. And I think, regardless of author's scapegoating of Cesc, makes that point that he didn't fit very well. Don't think that should just be overlooked because it's Cesc.

    We love him, but he moved on, so we did too. That's life.
  • kentmonkey 8 Jun 2014 14:58:37 21,772 posts
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    Shikasama wrote:
    Jack Wilshere desperately needs a kick up the arse.
    What and be out injured again. No thanks.
  • Tom_Servo 9 Jun 2014 12:16:33 18,082 posts
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    UNITED HAVE MADE A SIGNING!














    Cho-A Pharm becomes the club’s "official pharmaceuticals partner in Korea and Vietnam".
  • nickthegun 9 Jun 2014 12:21:26 67,887 posts
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    A shiny penny for the first person who gets a picture of rooney holding a bottle of boner pills.
  • SolidSCB 9 Jun 2014 13:13:42 9,595 posts
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    He'll be too busy swimming in a pool of minoxidil for all that now.
  • Syrette 9 Jun 2014 13:29:15 47,632 posts
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    My favourite Man Utd sponsor is 'Mamee', who are their noodles partner in the Middle East and Asia.
  • Trowel 9 Jun 2014 20:55:23 20,426 posts
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    Apparently Joke Hole is failing a medical at Aston Villa this evening.
  • jamievilla 9 Jun 2014 21:46:11 800 posts
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    When I first heard I presumed it was Carlton Cole.

    I'm not sure whether I'm happier that it's not.
  • MrFlay 9 Jun 2014 23:26:19 2,638 posts
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    Be thankful you're not paying Rio Ferdinand £80k a week. Joe Cole is probably only on £70k.
  • Mr_Sleep 9 Jun 2014 23:27:14 20,270 posts
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    He might do a job. Interesting to see Lambert has dropped his young and hungry thing in favour of some old chuggers. I am kind of pleased to see Lambert can adapt, something MON could never seemingly do.
  • caligari 9 Jun 2014 23:30:41 17,414 posts
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    Mr_Sleep wrote:
    He might do a job. Interesting to see Lambert has dropped his young and hungry thing in favour of some old chuggers. I am kind of pleased to see Lambert can adapt, something MON could never seemingly do.
    Rumours that he's coming in for Hoolahan, too. I wouldn't be too fussed to see him leave at this stage - he never really stopped sulking after the last move fell through.
  • Mr_Sleep 9 Jun 2014 23:42:51 20,270 posts
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    That rumour seems pretty obvious but it seems unlikely that Norwich are any more interested now than they were in January. Ialso think if it was ggoing to be done it would have been already.
  • Dougs 10 Jun 2014 07:01:07 78,665 posts
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    Sky have announced SS5, which is just for European football. Will be a bit thin after next season....
  • Mr_Sleep 10 Jun 2014 10:47:03 20,270 posts
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    So Joe Cole has apparently passed his medical and signed. Joe Cole passing a medical seems inconceivable!
  • Deleted user 10 June 2014 10:49:22
    Medicals are weird. I'm sure someone like Bodybuilder will have some actual facts but they always seem to me to be more about longterm health issues, as opposed to injury issues that would hamper them as footballers.

    I remember when Anderton left us and went to Birmingham, and supposedly passed his medical. Just can't fathom how a player that injury prone can pass a medical.
  • nickthegun 10 Jun 2014 10:51:57 67,887 posts
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    Its funny. I didnt once watch villa last year and think 'they could do with a player like joe cole'.
  • Mr_Sleep 10 Jun 2014 10:58:28 20,270 posts
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    @nickthegun did you instead think that they could do with any player who can score goals, cross the ball or pass the ball successfully to a team mate?

    @kalel haven't there been some serious conditions found in players during a medical? I was trying to figure out who I had in mind and I think it might have been Kanu's heart problems. So maybe medicals are more about players not dying, rather than if they have a bit of a weak hamstring. I suspect some of it is to do with player insurance and things like that too.

    I can't remember the last time I heard of a player actually failing a medical at a club.
  • TheMayorOfJugs 10 Jun 2014 11:01:11 6,404 posts
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    Mr_Sleep wrote:
    @nickthegun did you instead think that they could do with any player who can score goals, cross the ball or pass the ball successfully to a team mate?

    @kalel haven't there been some serious conditions found in players during a medical? I was trying to figure out who I had in mind and I think it might have been Kanu's heart problems. So maybe medicals are more about players not dying, rather than if they have a bit of a weak hamstring. I suspect some of it is to do with player insurance and things like that too.

    I can't remember the last time I heard of a player actually failing a medical at a club.
    Charlie Austin at Hull, his shoulder.
  • convz 10 Jun 2014 11:26:09 841 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Its funny. I didnt once watch villa last year and think 'they could do with a player like joe cole'.
    To be fair, more people would've thought this than "they could do with a player like Senderos'
  • nickthegun 10 Jun 2014 11:39:17 67,887 posts
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    I didnt phrase that very well. Yes, they could use a player 'like joe cole' but not actually 'joe cole'.

    Edited by nickthegun at 11:39:29 10-06-2014
  • Mr_Sleep 10 Jun 2014 12:41:51 20,270 posts
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    Dairyfree wrote:
    Didn't Ba fail a medical at Stoke and sign for West Ham?

    Something about his Knee's.

    Edit- And leroy Fer at Everton before joining Norwich
    That raises the question of why he would fail at one club and not the other. Weird that.
  • Tom_Servo 10 Jun 2014 12:49:30 18,082 posts
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    John Hartson failed a medical at Rangers, left in tears, then Celtic signed him. Turned out quite good for them...
  • Deleted user 10 June 2014 12:49:39
    I think the whole pass/fail thing is probably not the most accurate way to describe it. I suspect clubs just decide whether it's worth the risk based on a medical, as opposed to there being a consistent criteria for passing across all clubs.
  • nickthegun 10 Jun 2014 12:57:35 67,887 posts
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    There are more criteria than 'is his knee going to give way?' too.

    The classic being west ham trying to resign carlton cole, who had spent so much time sat on the bench he failed his medical on fitness grounds.
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