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  • TheSaint 13 Jan 2014 14:30:27 14,413 posts
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    Yeah, I don't think the Nasri one was a red either.
  • nickthegun 13 Jan 2014 14:32:56 59,937 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Oh, I wasn't aware of a knee.
    He knee'd him and then swung his leg in. It seems like a pretty clear red to me.

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  • Deckard1 13 Jan 2014 14:34:55 27,993 posts
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    Its barely a foul
  • kalel 13 Jan 2014 14:35:34 87,689 posts
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    It's borderline, but for me not quite enough for a red. It's a horrible tackle for sure, but straight reds tend to be studs in, or both feet. It's aggressive and really poor, but still right at the far end of a yellow for me.

    Gah, doing the very thing I hate...
  • nickthegun 13 Jan 2014 14:36:13 59,937 posts
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    Its severity is immediately downgraded since its samir nasri, its true..

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  • roz123 13 Jan 2014 14:39:34 7,113 posts
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    Nasri today
  • Dougs 13 Jan 2014 14:40:36 67,736 posts
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    It's like Benjamin Massing all over again. Still a hero of mine.
  • nickthegun 13 Jan 2014 14:41:43 59,937 posts
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    He seems to have the same stylist as Rough Copy (who?).

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  • Deckard1 13 Jan 2014 14:42:54 27,993 posts
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    Always with the Rough Copy. Let it go, they weren't even in the final.
  • Trowel 13 Jan 2014 14:43:47 17,763 posts
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    Nasri says he's out for 8 weeks.
  • Mr_Sleep 13 Jan 2014 14:45:47 17,074 posts
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    I was under the impression that lashing out in an aggressive manner was considered a red card offence. He tackled him twice, failed to get the ball and then kicked him in the knee out of frustration. Looks like a red to me.

    In my fantasy world of citing this would be discussed by a panel and the rules would be looked over and a decision would be made. I doubt it would stop this sort of thing happening as I don't believe most players do it out of maliciousness, it's more of a red mist situation, but it would at least lead to a fairer outcome after the match.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • morriss 13 Jan 2014 14:46:19 70,982 posts
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    lol

    Couldn't've happened to a nicer mercenary.
  • Steve_Perry 13 Jan 2014 14:46:26 4,259 posts
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    Shame for Nasri he has been playing well. Bit of a cunty tackle that.

    VIVA STEFANSEN

  • kalel 13 Jan 2014 14:47:43 87,689 posts
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    If it was off the ball it would be a red, but there is room to interpret it as a tackle attempt (a very poor one admittedly).

    It's not cut and dry.
  • Kay 13 Jan 2014 14:52:01 17,888 posts
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    roz123 wrote:
    Nasri today
    He reminds me of that Dappy fellow.
  • Steve_Perry 13 Jan 2014 14:52:40 4,259 posts
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    That's a great pic.

    VIVA STEFANSEN

  • Trowel 13 Jan 2014 14:52:54 17,763 posts
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    I fear the day that sort of foul becomes a clear red card - we'll have games finishing 8 vs 8, ten penalties awarded to Sterling every week, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria.
  • Mr_Sleep 13 Jan 2014 14:53:49 17,074 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    If it was off the ball it would be a red, but there is room to interpret it as a tackle attempt (a very poor one admittedly).

    It's not cut and dry.
    No it's not, that's where the panel would have to make a decision. Personally I see it as him lashing out through frustration as it is clear he has lost the ball but clearly there is a level of interpretation around that as not everyone agrees it was a straight red.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • White_Shadow 13 Jan 2014 14:54:31 2,537 posts
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    I had it pegged as a very cynical attempt to take him down. He had already missed so swung a leg.

    I can see why it's being discussed, but I wonder whether it would be receiving the same attention if Nasri hadn't been injured? Does a bad challenge become more reckless if a player is injured as a result?
  • Kay 13 Jan 2014 14:55:11 17,888 posts
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    Trowel wrote:
    I fear the day that sort of foul becomes a clear red card - we'll have games finishing 8 vs 8, ten penalties awarded to Sterling every week, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria.
    You mean, all players should angrily lash out with their leg when they get frustrated and clearly have no chance of getting the ball?
  • kalel 13 Jan 2014 14:59:25 87,689 posts
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    Mr_Sleep wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    If it was off the ball it would be a red, but there is room to interpret it as a tackle attempt (a very poor one admittedly).

    It's not cut and dry.
    No it's not, that's where the panel would have to make a decision. Personally I see it as him lashing out through frustration as it is clear he has lost the ball but clearly there is a level of interpretation around that as not everyone agrees it was a straight red.
    OK, but the system you're proposing is the very system that is now in place.
  • Zomoniac 13 Jan 2014 15:02:35 7,831 posts
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    White_Shadow wrote:
    Does a bad challenge become more reckless if a player is injured as a result?
    No, it just becomes more talked about. I bet everyone's already forgotten Nolan on Suarez last month because it had no negative outcome for Suarez but it was among the worst this season.
  • Punctum 13 Jan 2014 15:03:13 936 posts
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    Kay wrote:
    Trowel wrote:
    I fear the day that sort of foul becomes a clear red card - we'll have games finishing 8 vs 8, ten penalties awarded to Sterling every week, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria.
    You mean, all players should angrily lash out with their leg when they get frustrated and clearly have no chance of getting the ball?
    When Samir Nasri has the ball? Yes, without exception.
  • Reacher 13 Jan 2014 15:10:47 833 posts
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    Oh dear, Nasri has broken his vagina...


    Anyhoo, have we seen what Jason " He's been for a shit" Puncheon has accused Neil Warnock of?

    He claims that Warnock ensures players have bonuses and appearance fee's tied in to their contracts so that these fee's can be paid to Warnock himself in exchange for players being picked or put on the bench!

    Edited by Reacher at 15:11:15 13-01-2014
  • TheSaint 13 Jan 2014 15:12:40 14,413 posts
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    Just coming to post that myself:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd2bxF1CcAEN2wG.jpg
  • TheSaint 13 Jan 2014 15:14:14 14,413 posts
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    Similar accusations were made against Big Sam and Redknapp on TV a few years back and they didn't take any legal action to challenge it.
  • kalel 13 Jan 2014 15:14:52 87,689 posts
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    I don't quite follow the accusation. So players pay him directly to get picked?
  • Zomoniac 13 Jan 2014 15:14:59 7,831 posts
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    The stuff he says about training is certainly true. Warnock won't move away from Cornwall so only turns up for match days.
  • roz123 13 Jan 2014 15:16:11 7,113 posts
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    Man United News ‏@ManUtdMEN 8m

    BREAKING TRANSFER Anderson joins Fiorentina, MEN Sport understands. More to follow... http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/all-about/manchester%20united%20fc #MUFC pic.twitter.com/coRT1xMUHM
  • TheSaint 13 Jan 2014 15:18:40 14,413 posts
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    The accusation is that youth players would only get game time if they agree to give the manager their appearance fee / win bonus.

    Managers also apparently insist young players sign on with friendly agents who are in on the deal.
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