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  • mikew1985 20 Aug 2013 09:26:39 13,033 posts
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    Bit premature to say he will never reach that level?

    I certainly wouldn't put all my eggs in either basket at this moment in time. He certainly has the ability and potential to get to that level imo. His last 6 months very much reminded me of Ronaldo's first breakthrough goal scoring year.

    Whether or not he builds on that we'll find out this season but I certainly wouldn't be comfortable backing him to never reach that level.

    He has everything in his locker, blistering pace, a wicked shot (he's even scored a few on his weaker side now) and he's built himself up a serious amount over the last season and a half - looks as strong as can be now.

    Real Madrid or not I think it's a very promising season for Bale.
  • roz123 20 Aug 2013 10:46:09 7,113 posts
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    Probably bollocks because its from the Daily Mail
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2397451/Why-Arsene-Wenger-drowning-Arsenals-transfer-policy--pay-10-000-Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain-plays-20-minutes.html

    Wengerís detailed knowledge of every playerís contract even created an issue when Oxlade-Chamberlain was making substitute appearances for Arsenal last season.

    Written into the England wingerís deal is a clause stating that Arsenal must pay Saints £10,000 every time Oxlade-Chamberlain appears for more than 20 minutes.

    Incredibly a trend emerged, with Wenger bringing him off the bench after 72 minutes (v Stoke), 73 minutes (Liverpool), 72 minutes (Coventry), 65 minutes (Norwich), 76 minutes (Fulham), 86 minutes (Tottenham), 67 minutes (Swansea), 73 minutes (West Ham), 71 minutes (Swansea), and 75 minutes (Reading).

    Arsenalís accounts department were stunned to receive an email from Southampton demanding payment for the appearances, with the south coast club justifying their argument based on stoppage time.

    Eventually Arsenal agreed to pay for the appearances and the story worked its way around the offices at the Emirates with bafflement among staff.
    There's lots of other dirt on how Arsenals scouting team don't get on with anyone etc.
    I have had quite a lot of fun on twitter over the last couple of days reading #Wengerout
  • nickthegun 20 Aug 2013 10:48:54 61,299 posts
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    Both parts of that are genuinely incredible. 1) That theres a 10k per match clause and 2) Wenger would rather keep a talented player on the bench than pay it.

    It beggars belief.

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  • spindle9988 20 Aug 2013 10:51:34 3,676 posts
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    If that's true. He has definitely gone mental
  • Kay 20 Aug 2013 10:56:18 17,969 posts
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    As I posted in the Arsenal group, a couple of things stand out - first, why has this only come out now? And secondly, why mention the times he came on in the 65th and 67th minute?
  • Mr_Sleep 20 Aug 2013 11:27:28 17,368 posts
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    Well it's not true, someone has made that up. I'm sure.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • Mr_Sleep 20 Aug 2013 11:39:39 17,368 posts
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    In other news, apparently the referee from the Arsenal v Villa match has been dropped after his performance on Saturday. Seems a trifle harsh to me, perhaps the FA are changing their policy on these things and we will see more of it. Making the referees work more pressurised seems like an odd way to go if my supposition holds weight.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • nickthegun 20 Aug 2013 11:43:42 61,299 posts
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    That doesnt happen. Its more often than not a complete coincidence that he doesnt get a game after he is perceived to have had a howler (which he didnt).

    Edited by nickthegun at 11:44:07 20-08-2013

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  • Mr_Sleep 20 Aug 2013 11:50:19 17,368 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    That doesnt happen. Its more often than not a complete coincidence that he doesnt get a game after he is perceived to have had a howler (which he didnt).
    Yeah, you're probably right. Most likely it's an injury or something I guess.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • roz123 20 Aug 2013 12:11:46 7,113 posts
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    The new Bale rumour is £93m + Coentrao
  • Kay 20 Aug 2013 12:14:33 17,969 posts
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    I think that £93m includes Coentrao.
  • vijay_UK 20 Aug 2013 12:15:34 2,371 posts
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    Willian to Spurs is almost done.
  • grey_matters 20 Aug 2013 12:25:43 3,863 posts
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    That is some incredible business done by Spurs, if those two reports are true. Post Bale Spurs is far better than when he was there (assuming Soldado works out).
  • mcmonkeyplc 20 Aug 2013 12:27:10 39,567 posts
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    What if they keep Bale....:o

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • faux-C 20 Aug 2013 12:27:19 9,636 posts
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    vijay_UK wrote:
    Willian to Spurs is almost done.
    So Liverpool and Arsenal battling it out for 5th place then.
  • Deleted user 20 August 2013 12:28:06
    FutileResistor wrote:

    Again I don't expect you to answer because you've skipped the question twice already.

    Would you consider a £40m bid for Bale from Arsenal, a direct rival for a CL place, a joke bid? I know Levy would piss himself laughing.
    I've answered it twice. From a club other than Arsenal no. From arsenal yes, but our relationship with them is different to yours.

    Again, accepting a bid is different to considering it a joke. £40m is a reasonable starting bid for a player that would probably cost £55m or £60m if Madrid were not involved. It would not be a joke bid.

    Now tell me again how I'm missing your point or avoiding an answer.
  • robc84 20 Aug 2013 12:29:05 6,081 posts
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    If the rumours are true, then we have had Paulinho, Soldado, Capoue, Chadli, Wilian and Coentrao in for roughly what we are getting for Bale.

    Thats some pretty impressive business if true. Big if though.
  • Kay 20 Aug 2013 12:29:30 17,969 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    What if they keep Bale....:o
    £30m+ on Willian, and around £30m on Lamela too if reports are to be believed, so I very much doubt Bale will be staying.
  • vijay_UK 20 Aug 2013 12:33:56 2,371 posts
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    faux_carnation wrote:
    vijay_UK wrote:
    Willian to Spurs is almost done.
    So Liverpool and Arsenal battling it out for 5th place then.
    Looks like it, but more than that - it will be quite a battle for the top 4 slots.
  • Dougs 20 Aug 2013 12:37:06 69,496 posts
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    Arseblog's response to that Mail piece is worth a read if you're so inclined.
  • vijay_UK 20 Aug 2013 12:39:18 2,371 posts
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    robc84 wrote:
    If the rumours are true, then we have had Paulinho, Soldado, Capoue, Chadli, Wilian and Coentrao in for roughly what we are getting for Bale.

    Thats some pretty impressive business if true. Big if though.
    I imagine Spurs really fancy their chances for top slot; I don't see why they can't be challenging (at least) for the title, 4th spot should not be in their thoughts.
  • robc84 20 Aug 2013 12:42:49 6,081 posts
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    To be fair, even with all these signings, I still don't 4th place is a given.

    We could challenge the top two, but we could just as easily finish 5th or 6th. Either way I'm sure it will still be close between Spurs Arsenal and Liverpool.
  • SuperCoolEskimo 20 Aug 2013 12:44:43 10,069 posts
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    Wow. Considerable ambition being shown by Spurs in this window. If they do get Willian and Lamela I'll doff my cap to them. Excellent business that leaves them with a stronger squad than last season even if Bale leaves.
  • Deleted user 20 August 2013 12:45:08
    Let's just see what players we have in two weeks.

    And then what happens in the 30 odd games that follow.
  • binky Moderator 20 Aug 2013 12:48:26 9,949 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Let's just see what players we have in two weeks.

    And then what happens in the 30 odd games that follow.
    Exactly what I was just thinking. It's one thing to be excited about the players coming in, it's another thing entirely to win stuff!
  • spindle9988 20 Aug 2013 12:51:08 3,676 posts
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    vijay_UK wrote:
    Willian to Spurs is almost done.
    For fucks sake. Every single player we look at, spurs come in and grab em. I'm starting to think our scouts are on their books
  • Deleted user 20 August 2013 12:55:10
    Ha ha.
  • mcmonkeyplc 20 Aug 2013 12:57:54 39,567 posts
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    You also have to build a team with those players but yeah I think Spurs are title contenders.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • spindle9988 20 Aug 2013 12:58:07 3,676 posts
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    Fuck off kalel :D
  • Dougs 20 Aug 2013 13:00:28 69,496 posts
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    SuperCoolEskimo wrote:
    Wow. Considerable ambition being shown by Spurs in this window. If they do get Willian and Lamela I'll doff my cap to them. Excellent business that leaves them with a stronger squad than last season even if Bale leaves.
    Indeed.
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