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WoodenSpoon 12,053 posts
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Registered 10 years agoMax Payne 3 had bastard load times on my mechanical dinosaur drive, that's a good shout for SSD'ing. -
bitch_tits_zero_nine 4,896 posts
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Registered 2 years agoWhen I got mine, I could spend hours happily, just booting shit up! -
Bremenacht 11,167 posts
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Registered 6 years agoAnyone who's been using an SSD for more than a year notice any slow-down?
I've been noticing a bit of jitter on some video playback and slight delays in starting some stuff, which I'd previously attributed to an old laptop struggling to cope with new stuff.
So I used an SSD benchmark tool (AS SSD), which reports my C300 as being half as fast in some measurements than the published benchmarks (e.g. Anands SSD benchmark db). Having said that, other measurements appear a lot faster, which bumps it's overall 'score' up to something like normal, based on on what other C300 users report on the Crucial forums.
I've not updated the firmware since I got it, so I'll probably see better performance again when I do update it. It's about 5 firmware revisions out of date.
Anyone else experience problems like this with their SSDs? Even if you don't, it may be worth your while benchmarking it and keeping the results for future reference.This post is unsuitable for those with a high rumour-sensitivity.
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bitch_tits_zero_nine 4,896 posts
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Registered 2 years agoThe intel drives have a suite of apps that need to be run periodically, so something definitely degrades, not sure about Crucial though. -
Rusty_M 3,603 posts
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Registered 6 years agoHad a 60GB OCZ Vertex 2E for about 18 months. I think windows takes a touch longer to load up but haven't noticed anything else. Never touched the firmware.
I'm tempted to do a full reinstall soon to clean everything up.The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine.
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Ryze 2,943 posts
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Registered 7 years agoBremenacht wrote:
I guess that the size of files on the drive would make a difference if it's approaching being full.
Anyone who's been using an SSD for more than a year notice any slow-down?
I've been noticing a bit of jitter on some video playback and slight delays in starting some stuff, which I'd previously attributed to an old laptop struggling to cope with new stuff.
So I used an SSD benchmark tool (AS SSD), which reports my C300 as being half as fast in some measurements than the published benchmarks (e.g. Anands SSD benchmark db). Having said that, other measurements appear a lot faster, which bumps it's overall 'score' up to something like normal, based on on what other C300 users report on the Crucial forums.
I've not updated the firmware since I got it, so I'll probably see better performance again when I do update it. It's about 5 firmware revisions out of date.
Anyone else experience problems like this with their SSDs? Even if you don't, it may be worth your while benchmarking it and keeping the results for future reference.
Lots of small files would be a lot of work for the drive controller circuitry, despite the fact that there's no seek time involved. There would still be overhead involved in managing the filesystem.
Do go for firmware updates, and run any housekeeping utilities supplied by the manufacturer. Take a backup before the firmware updates.
In fact, due to the nature of SSD drives, I'd be tempted to have Windows backup take a system image every fortnight at least. Writing repeatedly to SSDs is what degrades them. You're probably aware, but NEVER defrag your SSD. Needlessly ages your drive. Think of writing to the SSD like recharging a battery. Limited lifespan, but your warranty will keep you sorted, as long as you're taking an occasional system backup onto your HDD. -
SuperBas 1,371 posts
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Registered 8 years agoBeen using one since the beginning of this thread, no problems here. A few months ago I reformatted for a clean Win7 install, there was no speed gain. I'm still happy with my SSD. -
hiddenranbir 5,476 posts
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Registered 7 years agoGiven how save files and documents go in to user profiles now, do any of you keep the user profiles on the ssd? -
Bremenacht 11,167 posts
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Registered 6 years ago@Ryze - Good advice there, ta. It's about 75% full now. I know these drives can have problems at that level and that the later firmware improves behaviour greatly for this situation. I'll post an update if the improvement is worthwhile.This post is unsuitable for those with a high rumour-sensitivity.
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Bremenacht 11,167 posts
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Registered 6 years agoStill haven't flashed that drive.
Anyway. I wasn't terribly enthused by the Samsung SSDs advocated by some, but I might have to change my mind:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6328/samsung-ssd-840-pro-256gb-review
Sounds pretty good.This post is unsuitable for those with a high rumour-sensitivity.
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FutileResistor 1,025 posts
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Registered 4 years agoSamsung 830s were/are brilliant. -
FutileResistor 1,025 posts
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Registered 4 years agoRe: performance degradation over time.
Are you using Windows 7?
Check TRIM is working
Open a command prompt
type in "fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify"
DisableDeleteNotify = 0 means TRIM is working
DisableDeleteNotify = 1 means it isn't and you need to investigate further. Probably you haven't installed the SSD in AHCI mode.
Edit, oh yeah typically 70-75% full is the figure where performance starts dropping off on SSDs.
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mrpon 24,062 posts
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Registered 6 years agoSo, I've received an email from Crucial telling me there is a firmware upgrade for my 128GB m4. Any scare stories I need to be aware of? -
mikew1985 9,692 posts
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Registered 6 years agoOh really? They obviously don't love me as much then.
I updated the firmware when I bought it over a year ago, it's not that revision is it? -
mrpon 24,062 posts
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Registered 6 years ago25th September, apparently. Tempting, with faster boot ups, faster TRIM and better power management.
http://www.crucial.com/uk/support/ssd/index.aspx?source=web&cpe=m4firmware_uk -
mikew1985 9,692 posts
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Registered 6 years agoThink I'll go for it.
If it goes bad I have most important stuff on my large HDD and I could do with tidying up my Windows install. -
mrpon 24,062 posts
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Registered 6 years agoLog some boot up times first. -
mikew1985 9,692 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI'll be sure to do that just after I finish compiling my latest GPU benchmarking graphs. -
Bremenacht 11,167 posts
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Registered 6 years agoDouble-check. It might require a disk-wipe.
That's why I've put off my firmware upgrades.This post is unsuitable for those with a high rumour-sensitivity.
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SuperBas 1,371 posts
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Registered 8 years agoTwo years later, ONE MONTH AND THREE DAYS PAST THE WARRANTY PERIOD, my OCZ Vertex 2 died. I have now replaced it with a Samsung 830, hopefully it'll last longer.
So yeah, anyone who got a Vertex 2: start using your warranty if you're nearing the two year period. I noticed something was up when Windows started freezing completely, then after a reboot, the BIOS couldn't see the SSD. I tried switching cables, but it's well and truly dead.
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ecureuil 74,137 posts
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Registered 8 years agoOrdered myself a SSD just now, it should arrive tomorrow. Any tips for a first time user? I've read a bit of this thread and done some research but I still want to triple check I know what I'm doing before I set it up. -
Dirtbox 73,664 posts
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Registered 11 years agoNothing really, just dump your OS on it and be sure to have apps that have a caching option use that drive. Despite what people tell you, the different it makes to game loading times is negligible, So unless it's a game with a lot of loading screens, it's a bit pointless.+1 / Like / Tweet this post
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Enable AHCI in your Bios, it helps performance.
But do this to avoid a BSOD.
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If you actually make a fresh install, ignore the link, but activate AHCI before the installaion of the OS.
Edited by UncleLou at 16:53:48 22-01-2013 -
Sharzam 1,329 posts
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Registered 4 years ago@dirtbox
Yeah since getting a larger SSD I thought I would put more games on it. With the exception of MMOs very little real change, surprised me a bit for example starcraft 2 is limited by blizzard servers not the drive.
MMOs though benefit massively due to pop in on zoning and draw distance being improved.
Edit : been using a ssd as a system disc for a while now so no real change for me there. Also not saying no change at all in games just that it isn't a particular big improvement.
Edited by Sharzam at 08:37:38 23-01-2013Known as 'Sharzam' in 98.5% of games
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ecureuil 74,137 posts
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Registered 8 years agoUncleLou wrote:
Cheers, all up and running now. Getting boot times of 20-25 seconds, it's great. Windows Experience Index is now at 7.5.
Enable AHCI in your Bios, it helps performance.
But do this to avoid a BSOD.
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If you actually make a fresh install, ignore the link, but activate AHCI before the installaion of the OS.
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Futaba 3,160 posts
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Registered 7 years agotechnician27 wrote:
Wow, that's amazingly insightful. POTY for sure.
SSD is same as normal HDD the way you install it and the way you use it
Only difference is SSD has better performance as most of people know .gif)
As far back as I can remember I always wanted to be a ninja.
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urban 10,405 posts
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Registered 9 years agoWell nice, my SSD seems to have failed. Don't buy refurbs...haha
Say 5 minutes into windows it'll start to lock up, things start to hang, explorer disappears, CTRL + ALT + DEL brings up 'Preparing security options' then it blue screens with 0f4 stop code. Doesn't actually dump the bluescreen info so I can't diagnose at all.
CHKDSK /R simply throws up an unspecified error or sometimes specifys a bad sector but can't rectify. Doesn't reboot, force reboot and then it won't actually boot. Full shutdown and repeat...
Tried Hirens boot cd to check for boot sectors but even that hangs and throws up errors.
P.S updated to latest firmware (2.4) and fully up to date mobo firmware, drivers etc.
Sat in work downloading a fresh copy of windows to install on one of my data drives, joys! Think I'll be buying a Samsung retail drive next! This one was a Corsair Force 3 240gb.
Anyone know any fun ways of destroying/looking at/making art out of SSDs?
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StixxUK 6,917 posts
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Registered 11 years agoThink I'm gonna get one of these.
Time to upgrade from Vista to Windows 8, I've had the upgrade sitting here since Jan but haven't got round to it. I was gonna buy an external USB drive to backup my documents, then do a clean install but instead I think I'm just going to install W8 on a new SSD.
What's the best value proposition at the moment? Looking at the Samsung 840 120gb on Amazon for 85 quid at the sec.
Is 120gb enough for Windows 8? All my media will be on a separate old seagate HDD (which I'm currently using as my main drive). -
Do it, you won't regret it. 120GB is enough.
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