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  • Deleted user 25 May 2010 17:21:43
    I've got the second one, which is boring as fuckery, I'd imagine the first isn't much better.

    PC was built from old/new/stolen parts
  • RyanDS 25 May 2010 17:22:38 9,058 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:


    For that to make sense you'd have to take into account what else is in the PS3, like the Cell etc., surely? :)


    True.... However some of those other bits are why it runs faster, being able to update the console is key.
  • MyAfroAndMe 25 May 2010 17:29:30 610 posts
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    CrispyXUK wrote:
    I've got the second one, which is boring as fuckery, I'd imagine the first isn't much better.

    PC was built from old/new/stolen parts

    You're so swish. Stolen parts you say. Get you.
  • Deleted user 25 May 2010 18:08:34
    BluRay players are traditionally slow to start up, yes, although newer ones are a lot better. As I said earlier, my Sammy starts up and plays in under 15 seconds.

    New Bluray players are fab and cheap but in all honesty the PS3 beats them for Bluray performance, DVD upscaling and general "media center" abilities. That said, bluray players like the BD390 and C5500 don't need a heavy duty PC to transcode content like the PS3 and 360 do.

    The PS3 remote is utter arse though :-(
  • reflux 25 May 2010 21:54:29 1,804 posts
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    Jazzy_Geoff wrote:
    I'll take issue with that reflux

    I run PS3 media server off a netbook with no worries
    I watch streaming stuff off the web (mostly sport and porn) all the time. It looks better on the telly than it does my laptop. I don't find may vids it can't play. (ITV player and 40d don't work though).

    And my issue is that you MUST have a computer to transcode the media instead of just storing your files on a simple network disk. What many don't realize is that if you want subtitles (like many of us non-English peeps do) PMS can't simply rewrap h264 content but instead has to recompress the video to a bandwidth hungry MPEG2-stream in realtime which means that you can't use it over wireless LAN and you'll need a fast quadcore-machine or a CUDA-accelerated h264-decoder (like CoreAVC) for 1080P streams.

    Understand me right, I use mine all the time but one can't really say that the PS3 is a great media player since it depends entirely on PMS. And, at least my Slim is rather noisy while playing, enough to annoy during more silent parts.
  • Jazzy_Geoff 25 May 2010 22:16:09 7,767 posts
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    tbh I have no idea what all that means

    I have used it for subtitled stuff though, although not necessarily in HD and/or streaming (I generally copy stuff over as my PS3 has a bigger HDD than either of my laptops).
  • Deleted user 25 May 2010 22:33:10
    phAge
  • morriss 25 May 2010 22:59:10 70,911 posts
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    Did you sign up just to post that?

    Bitter much?
  • Deleted user 25 May 2010 23:03:44
    Yes I signed up 66 days ago just to post that.
  • reflux 25 May 2010 23:10:31 1,804 posts
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    Jazzy_Geoff wrote:
    tbh I have no idea what all that means

    I have used it for subtitled stuff though, although not necessarily in HD and/or streaming (I generally copy stuff over as my PS3 has a bigger HDD than either of my laptops).

    You can't use subtitles at all if you copy the media files to the PS3 HD since it doesn't support the use of subs unless you're using a special divx-format or a very restricted AVCHD format :( It could all be fixed with a new firmware but it's not very likely that Sony even wants to add that kind of media support.
  • Jazzy_Geoff 25 May 2010 23:28:39 7,767 posts
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    You can't normally, but you can if you use PS3MS, it mashes the sub file right onto the video in the transcoding. I think this was the reason I switched from Tversity. It was a while since I watched anything with subs so I may be talking shite and misremembering but I'm 90% sure that it does work like that.
  • Jazzy_Geoff 25 May 2010 23:29:46 7,767 posts
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    On reflection, I think you probably know that and are talking about something that is over my head.
  • reflux 26 May 2010 20:31:14 1,804 posts
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    Jazzy, sorry, yeah :) But I DO love PMS, I really do. Just wish my PS3 was a bit more quiet but it will have to do. I'd rather buy a cheap X360 than a dedicated media player right now.
  • Deleted user 27 May 2010 08:29:50
    to go back to the start of this thread.....if you dislike sony so much that you'd cut off your nose to spite your face by not having a ps3 "in your house" then id suggest you dont bother with blu ray at all as every disc you buy will put money into sonys pocket.

    but really your reasoning is that of an irrational fanboy, as a gamer surely it should be a no brainer for you to buy a ps3 as a blu ray player and enjoy the bonus of some great games your 360 will never see??
  • Widge Moderator 27 May 2010 09:30:43 13,260 posts
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    Plus if you get a PS3 you can join in with the onlyblurayplayerlol and gatheringdustlol joys

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  • Deleted user 27 May 2010 09:40:34
    i doubt sony care wheather people bought ps3 for onlyabluraypayerlol or not, they still get money from bluray purchases.
  • Retroid Moderator 27 May 2010 10:25:59 44,503 posts
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    As do MS (although only if the VC1 codec is used) IIRC.
  • ManicDrunkMonk 27 May 2010 15:24:54 505 posts
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    I bought a PS3 so that I could support my favourite hardware firm through Blu-ray purchases...









    ...Philips ftw!
  • Deleted user 27 May 2010 15:46:29
    Retroid wrote:
    As do MS (although only if the VC1 codec is used) IIRC.

    Not as much as Sony though, who are also part of the VC1 patent pool.
  • imamazed 28 Jan 2013 16:58:58 5,520 posts
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    How are the news PS3s at playing blu rays?

    Just ordered a ps3, and if it's pretty speedy and of good quality I may move my Blu Ray player to another room, to save space
  • kalel 28 Jan 2013 17:02:27 86,344 posts
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    Depends how good a dedicated player you've talking about. My Oppo does a big shit on the PS3.
  • imamazed 28 Jan 2013 18:02:04 5,520 posts
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    @kalel

    It's a sony...something or other.

    It's got a menu thingy similar to a ps3 and I got it for about 90 notes a year ago... does that help?

    In what way is your one better than a ps3?

    Edited by imamazed at 18:05:56 28-01-2013
  • kalel 28 Jan 2013 18:11:40 86,344 posts
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    I'd imagine there's little difference with the Sony one.

    The Oppo has better sound and picture quality, and significantly better upscaling quality on DVD. Plus lots of other little things like faster loading, better format support, quieter and cooler running etc.

    But the Oppo is proper AV head stuff and not cheap, so you'd expect a difference. The PS3 is an extremely competent BR player easily comparable with more other decent BR players out there.
  • imamazed 28 Jan 2013 18:14:52 5,520 posts
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    Cheers, nice one
  • kalel 28 Jan 2013 18:16:05 86,344 posts
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    There are btw reports of the new PS3 being slightly worse PQ than the older ones, and I think they dropped a couple of formats. Might be worth looking at. Doubt it's a significant difference though.
  • Chopsen 28 Jan 2013 18:21:02 15,723 posts
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    I've gone through 2 PS3's due to drive failure, which is not an uncommon problem. So I'd recommend a cheapo BR over using a PS for that reason alone. (The quality difference between one you'd pick in sainsbury's with your milk and the PS3 is probably nil)
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