Will the end of cross-platform end the console war?

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  • TheGrevster 18 Mar 2010 15:32:30 16 posts
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    After listening to the Podcast, and hearing about the Forum and its lack of interesting topics, I've decided to try my hand at opening some debate.

    My question put simply is "Will the end of cross-platform end the console war?"

    Now, with many titles becoming non-exclusive to platforms such as Final Fantasy, coupled with a number of studios becoming independant i.e Bungie, do you think that because of the lack of money generated from singular console titles could end the ongoing battle between platforms?

    We've recently seen Epic claim ownership to Gears of War, with the possibility of it going to Playstation, and the same can be said for games such as Metal Gear. It seems that the differentiating factor between consoles used to be the titles they had on offer, but since that line is becoming increasingly blurred, and the technical specifications being closer than ever, could we possibly see the end of competition between them? Even to go as far as saying could we see cross-platofrm online titles, such as Fifa?
  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife 18 Mar 2010 15:33:45 7,003 posts
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    Works for film and music so can't see why it wouldn't work for games.

    EDIT: To elaborate.

    It'll never happen, not while while any manufacturer (at the moment Nintendo, previously Sony) are making money hand over fist on their own hardware. What would need to happen is for another games crash to happen. Unlikely.

    However I'd love to see a single platform agreed by developers akin to the standards agreed by film on DVD and (eventually) on Blu-ray.

    These will free cash and resources that are currently taken up in producing multiplatform titles to be plowed back into new games instead. Plus it'd means a bigger audience for indie titles to find an audience.
  • Blerk Moderator 18 Mar 2010 15:35:41 48,225 posts
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    Not a chance in hell.
  • TheGrevster 18 Mar 2010 15:36:50 16 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Not a chance in hell.

    Loving the cynicism :)
  • Flying_Pig 18 Mar 2010 15:39:12 10,681 posts
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    Yes..

    Erm, No?

    What was the question again?
  • brokenkey 18 Mar 2010 15:41:19 6,942 posts
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    Its not really a war, is it? Its not even a conflict. Not enough deaths.

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  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife 18 Mar 2010 15:44:39 7,003 posts
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    brokenkey wrote:
    Its not really a war, is it? Its not even a conflict. Not enough deaths.

    ...that we know about!

    When did you last see J Allard, huh?
  • Bill-Gates-is-Evil 18 Mar 2010 15:44:44 8,935 posts
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    I think it'll actually heighten it, as console makers will try even harder to differentiate themselves from the competition.
  • Syrette 18 Mar 2010 15:45:39 43,061 posts
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    TheGrevster wrote:
    and hearing about the Forum and its lack of interesting topics

    Cheeky.

  • Blerk Moderator 18 Mar 2010 15:47:20 48,225 posts
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    TheGrevster wrote:
    Blerk wrote:
    Not a chance in hell.

    Loving the cynicism :)
    It's what I do. :-)

    Until the day arrives where's there's a single machine created by a single manufacturer (i.e. never), there will always be some reason why the internets think that game X on platform Y is better than game X on platform Z which proves absolutely that platform Z is a worthless piece of shit. It's the nature of the beast.
  • brokenkey 18 Mar 2010 15:47:45 6,942 posts
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    Bill Gates is Evil wrote:
    I think it'll actually heighten it, as console makers will try even harder to differentiate themselves from the competition.

    hijack - Bill, as an american, can you answer this question - do high school cheerleaders walk round school every day wearing their cheerleading costumes, as seen on Glee, HSM and other media?

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  • MiniAmin 18 Mar 2010 15:48:28 3,389 posts
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    Consolols

    PC > Consoles.
  • TheGrevster 18 Mar 2010 15:49:42 16 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    TheGrevster wrote:
    Blerk wrote:
    Not a chance in hell.

    Loving the cynicism :)
    It's what I do. :-)

    Until the day arrives where's there's a single machine created by a single manufacturer (i.e. never), there will always be some reason why the internets thinks that game X on platform Y is better than game X on platform Z which proves absolutely that platform Y is a worthless piece of shit. It's the nature of the beast.

    I would agree that 1 console will never rule them all. I just think it would be inetersting to open up the possibility of cross platform gaming over the interwebs.

    Not only that but the possibility of such great exclusive games, going multi-platform i.e. Halo, God of War etc.
  • harhol 18 Mar 2010 15:49:55 156 posts
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    Console wars produce the best games. Games like Heavy Rain and Uncharted would not exist were it not for the existence of the 360.
  • TheGrevster 18 Mar 2010 15:51:40 16 posts
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    harhol wrote:
    Console wars produce the best games. Games like Heavy Rain and Uncharted would not exist were it not for the existence of the 360.

    I think this is most interesting of all, as the competition has surely sparked the need to create bigger, better and overly more impressive games.

    But is that to say that one day we could never see these games acorss all plaforms, and maybe differentiate themselves possiblity via DLC a la GTA IV
  • Blerk Moderator 18 Mar 2010 15:52:15 48,225 posts
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    There's zero chance of there ever being cross-platform online gaming, Microsoft/Sony would never allow it. And the manufacturers own titles will never go cross-platform either - you'll never, ever see God of War on a Microsoft machine or Halo on a Sony machine, simply because the IPs are owned by the console manufacturers themselves and not the teams that develop the games.
  • woodnotes 18 Mar 2010 15:54:58 4,921 posts
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    We were almost there last generation, with Sony dominating the console sales. As a result, the console had an insane amount of exclusives by default.

    But then Sony went and messed it all up. lol.

    And that's why we will never have a one-console future. Not in the near future, anyway.
  • robthehermit 18 Mar 2010 15:55:30 3,966 posts
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    Unless I read your opening post wrong, which is quite possible as I've got a splitting headache, your thread title is bollocks and should read end of console exclusives.

    And to answer that question, no. Because there will never be an end to exclusives. And nor would I want there to be. Exclusive titles are supposed to be system sellers, and therefore bigger and better than the average cross platform title. Whether or not this is true in most cases is a moot point, but exclusive titles are where most of the innovation going forward should be.

    Entire post could be rubbish. My head hurts.

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  • MrE26 18 Mar 2010 16:00:45 1,918 posts
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    harhol wrote:
    Console wars produce the best games. Games like Heavy Rain and Uncharted would not exist were it not for the existence of the 360.
    I don't think that's necessarily true. There'd still be competition among game developers to create the biggest, shiniest new games even if there was only a single platform.
  • Bill-Gates-is-Evil 18 Mar 2010 16:04:44 8,935 posts
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    brokenkey wrote:
    hijack - Bill, as an american, can you answer this question - do high school cheerleaders walk round school every day wearing their cheerleading costumes, as seen on Glee, HSM and other media?

    Yes, at least they did at my high school. They have weird schedules and weird practices at weird times, I think that's why they do that.

    and ecosse you lack originality.
  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife 18 Mar 2010 16:05:14 7,003 posts
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    TheGrevster wrote:
    harhol wrote:
    Console wars produce the best games. Games like Heavy Rain and Uncharted would not exist were it not for the existence of the 360.

    I think this is most interesting of all, as the competition has surely sparked the need to create bigger, better and overly more impressive games.

    But is that to say that one day we could never see these games acorss all plaforms, and maybe differentiate themselves possiblity via DLC a la GTA IV

    As long as there are competing publishers they'll be competition - look at the film industry. You get a massive array of great films both populist and niche. The same could be true of gaming.

    The only way I can see it working though is with Microsoft and Sony* coming up with a standard and then licensing it out to other manufacturers to produce the hardware while also taking a cut on the format too. It reduces the risk massively for both companies struggling to make a profit on the hardware, yet they can retain their popular IP to drive consumers to the new format and make large profits.

    *(leaving Nintendo out of this as they make heaps off their hardware so have no incentive)
  • TheGrevster 18 Mar 2010 16:06:25 16 posts
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    Rob the Hermit wrote:
    Unless I read your opening post wrong, which is quite possible as I've got a splitting headache, your thread title is bollocks and should read end of console exclusives.

    And to answer that question, no. Because there will never be an end to exclusives. And nor would I want there to be. Exclusive titles are supposed to be system sellers, and therefore bigger and better than the average cross platform title. Whether or not this is true in most cases is a moot point, but exclusive titles are where most of the innovation going forward should be.

    Entire post could be rubbish. My head hurts.

    Sorry, I thought it was pretty clear that if games go mutli platform, that exclusivity would end, as thats obvious.

    Go take a paracetamol :)
  • altitude2k 18 Mar 2010 16:22:01 3,729 posts
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    white_frank_white wrote:
    There's a console war?

    There are consoles other than the 360?
  • mcmonkeyplc 18 Mar 2010 16:23:23 39,384 posts
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    There's a 360?!

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • MiniAmin 18 Mar 2010 16:25:25 3,389 posts
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    ^^ You guys are going round in circles ;)
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