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  • b0rk 19 Feb 2017 09:20:19 7,229 posts
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    You did the right thing not getting the 3GB version. Even if you plan upgrading sooner rather than later 3GB doesn't cut it these days with a lot of newer games, plus I have the 6GB version so you'd be cool like me in that regard.

    /cool
  • Godofporn 20 Feb 2017 18:01:24 6,380 posts
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    b0rk wrote:
    You did the right thing not getting the 3GB version. Even if you plan upgrading sooner rather than later 3GB doesn't cut it these days with a lot of newer games, plus I have the 6GB version so you'd be cool like me in that regard.

    /cool
    I love u b0rk
  • DodgyPast 9 Mar 2017 15:45:43 9,228 posts
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    Pulled the trigger on a 1700x.

    My father in law is really sick and my plex service needs reinforcing.

    Really excited since I'm going to be retiring an i2500k into a torrent / file server.

    Hoping to collect it on Monday.

    Edited by DodgyPast at 15:46:25 09-03-2017
  • HitchHiker 9 Mar 2017 16:13:34 2,882 posts
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    Received my new PC today :)

    Having a problem with the atrocious network speed though. It's wired Ethernet from a Gigabyte Z270 Gaming 3 motherboard which uses Killer E2500 networking stuff. It was really slow to start off with, so I've uninstalled all the Killer Control Centre software and associated apps and then had to reinstall the driver on its own. Still rubbish speed, trying to download stuff from Steam and I'm lucky to get over 1Mb/s. I've now uninstalled Norton antivirus and all its associated firewall and it's still not much better :(

    It's going to be another 4 hours before ARMA 3 is downloaded!
  • DodgyPast 18 Mar 2017 15:37:39 9,228 posts
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    My 1700x is ripping Forza Horizon a new one.
  • Spectral 18 Mar 2017 16:39:06 5,527 posts
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    @DodgyPast What kind of performance? Not got round to trying this on my semi recent build, although mine is intel based since I didn't want to wait.

    Edited by Spectral at 16:41:36 18-03-2017
  • DodgyPast 18 Mar 2017 18:05:32 9,228 posts
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    I tested serving two plex streams while playing and didn't notice anything which was the what I was aiming for.

    Though seeing it happen did impress me.

    Forza probably suits the build as the engine was built for many cores. I'm not expecting pure gaming performance to outstrip Intel but I expect it to be close once I've upgraded the cooling system and overclock.

    The main selling point is the fact that I can game with relatively demanding tasks going on in the background.
  • Globbits 30 Mar 2017 18:33:02 103 posts
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    Hi all,

    I was looking at building my first gaming PC but I'm a complete novice so would very much welcome some advice. Primarily I'm looking to achieve a comfortable 1080p60 on top settings for current games so I was using this Digital Foundry article (Linkk) as a basis for that

    Putting the parts listed in the article into PCPartPicker gave a build price of ~1200 which I am comfortable with for a budget, but I wondered if there were any better choices for the components. In truth, I had expected it to cost less than that really (which may or may not be me living in dreamland!)

    I already have decent enough peripherals so it's just a matter of getting the tower (case and innards) sorted

    Parts in the DF link:

    Core i5 7600K (plan to overclock)
    Corsair H60 CPU Cooler
    MSI Z270 Gaming Pro Carbon Motherboard
    16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4
    Corsair CX600M PSU (Though considered swapping that for a modular 600W/650W EVGA PSU)
    OCZ Trion 150 SSD (480GB)
    WD Black 3TB Harddrive
    GTX 1060 6GB GPU
    Corsair Carbide 400C Case (though I have read good things about Phanteks P400S for a novice builder's case)

    Would a GTX 1070 be massive overkill for smooth 1080p?

    Cheers
  • Rodpad 30 Mar 2017 18:34:21 2,944 posts
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    Anything that is overkill now will last you longer in the future. Go for the best GPU you can afford now.

    Looks like a good build though.
  • THFourteen 30 Mar 2017 18:49:32 44,631 posts
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    Think the H60 is so so personally
  • Mr_Sleep 30 Mar 2017 18:57:14 21,105 posts
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    @Globbits personally I am not sure you need quite so much space for your SSD. You could shave some money off by reducing the size and installing less FPS heavy stuff to your other drive.
  • ibenam 30 Mar 2017 19:07:14 3,031 posts
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    Is that all 1200 smackers gets you nowadays? brexit is a bitch
  • DodgyPast 30 Mar 2017 22:22:42 9,228 posts
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    If you're going with the large SSD you could check the price of the blue HDD.

    You could also consider if going for a R5 1600X AMD Ryzen would cut the cost significantly, especially if it funds the 1070.
  • Globbits 30 Mar 2017 22:33:53 103 posts
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    Thanks for the feedback guys

    THFourteen wrote:
    Think the H60 is so so personally
    Is there anything you'd recommend as an alternative?
  • Technoishmatt 30 Mar 2017 22:47:05 1,710 posts
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    I got a dell xps tower se in a sale this month for $1400 inc sales tax (shld have been $1800), with i7700k, 16gb 2400mhz ram, nvidia 1070 w 8gb, 256gb m2 SSD and 2TB HDD... 1200 quid seems steep for an i5 and a 1060.
  • THFourteen 30 Mar 2017 22:48:03 44,631 posts
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    @Globbits

    To be honest I think 120/140mm all in one solutions are a waste of money, and come with the risk of leaks.

    Any reason not to go for air cooling and the Noctua NH-D14 or even D15 if you want to spend a little more?
  • Spectral 30 Mar 2017 23:10:25 5,527 posts
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    I agree with THFourteen. Unless there isn't the space for a decent air cooler in a system I dont see the point in the AIO water coolers. They're not really any more effective than something like the Noctua, not really any quieter and you run the risk of the pump failing or leaks. Whereas if the fan on an air cooler goes there is still a huge heatsink there to give you enough time to shut down.

    Edited by Spectral at 23:11:08 30-03-2017
  • Globbits 30 Mar 2017 23:13:19 103 posts
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    @THFourteen No reason. Like I said I'm a complete novice with this so I was just using the Digital Foundry article as a starting point. I'm very much open to suggestions for alternatives
  • Rodpad 30 Mar 2017 23:46:40 2,944 posts
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    Give me the NH-D14 / 15 any day of the week over watercooling. They're the most acoustically efficient CPU coolers you can get.
  • HitchHiker 31 Mar 2017 07:09:10 2,882 posts
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    @Globbits Check out FreshtechSolutions. I bought mine from them and I couldn't beat them pricewise anywhere else, plus they use named brand components in their builds unlike some others.
  • THFourteen 31 Mar 2017 07:47:28 44,631 posts
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    Or just go full custom watercooling loop like a real man :-)
  • johnberger 31 Mar 2017 17:34:46 24 posts
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    :cool:
    Sandbox wrote:
    Just built the following including that artic power 700 which seems fine.

    Antec 300 case
    Artic Power 700w PSU
    Cheapo Gigabyte MB (GA-G31M)
    3gb Ddr2 800mhz ram 1x 1 gb 1 x 2gb (non matched does not seem to make any difference)
    Got given an E8400 which is now running at 3.6ghz
    WD 500gb Blue HDD
    Couple of second hand DVD RW drives
    ATI 4670 512 mb


    Seems to play most stuff fine, GTA4 etc - think the graphics card is probably the weakest link, so may blow 100 notes on a new one in the new year!

    Very nice build i think :cool:
  • Cambiasso 3 Apr 2017 11:39:47 5 posts
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    Bought myself a decent gaming PC about a year and a half ago and it's been serving me fairly well, but some newer games like Andromeda and Battlegrounds (poorly optimised, I know) have been bringing it to a bit of a crawl at higher settings. Current specs are:

    AMD FX-8350 8core @4.00GHz
    R9 380 4gb
    8gb RAM
    1tb HDD

    Where should I be looking to beef up the performance? Without being an expert I'm assuming extra RAM and maybe a new GPU, but I'd rather avoid spending unnecessarily.

    Thanks in advance :-)
  • Sharz 3 Apr 2017 11:41:50 1,640 posts
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    You could try overclocking the CPU, a 8350 isn't particularly powerful but they overclock a a bit with the right cooling, so that may help offset any potential bottlenecks.

    16GB ram is generally advised these days but not sure how much you will need it in your build. On brightside the 380 graphics card requires a fair bit of juice so if your PC can supply that you should be able to change to any newer graphics card without a problem (assuming overclock the CPU a bit).

    Speaking of graphics cards, have a look for a RX480 and see what you are prepared to spend.

    Edited by Sharz at 11:44:26 03-04-2017
  • ISmoke 21 Apr 2017 10:56:13 1,649 posts
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    I want to get a new PC but I can't really justify buying a new PC. Figured if I sold mine it would make it much easier to get a new one. Problem is do I sell it part by part or as one thing?

    Looking at eBay completed listings I could get about 800 and that is being very conservative (i think)

    If you were looking to buy a PC what would you pay/think is fair for the following

    CASE: Corsair Obsidian 800D Full tower
    MOBO: Asus Rampage IV Extreme
    GPU: EVGA GTX 980Ti Superclocked +
    CPU: i7 3930K back to stock speeds of 3.2GHz
    RAM: 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum
    PSU: 1200w Corsair AX1200i fully modular
    HDD: 1TB Western Digital Blue
    HDD: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black
    SSD: 256GB Samsung 840 'Pro'

    Fully water-cooled loop
    CPU block: EK Supremacy
    GPU block: EK full Nickel
    Reservoir: EK bay Plexi
    Pump: Liang-Li D5 Vario
    Radiator 1: 360mm x 60mm
    Radiator 2: 120mm x 20mm
    Fans: 4 x 120mm Corsair high pressure PWM fans 1 x Corsair 140mm case high airflow fan
    All Barrow compression fittings.


    I'm sure as hell it would still be a bit OP for 1920x1080 as it chugs along nicely even at 1440p but I want something that is pushing hard again.

    Question is do I sell now whilst I can get a bit of money back for my build to put towards my new one or do I wait until the next series of GPU/CPU's to be out? I do feel a bit silly going 780>780Ti>980Ti and potentially 1080Ti
  • Spectral 21 Apr 2017 11:07:26 5,527 posts
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    As tempting as it is to get the new and shiny unless you're desperate to hit 4k buying anything atm would just be a waste of money. The CPU is gettin on slightly but still far needing replacing urgently, but for anything less than 4K it's not worth upgrading from a 980Ti atm.

    Edited by Spectral at 11:08:21 21-04-2017
  • ISmoke 21 Apr 2017 11:13:16 1,649 posts
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    It's actually size I am most concerned about. The 800D is massive! I just want something a bit smaller but that means changing my mobo/cpu/ram.

    The 980Ti is still OK at 1440p but I wouldn't mind actually taking advantage of my full refresh rate, even though GSync makes it more tolerable. I think the sensible me says to wait until the new set of cards.

    Bah!
  • THFourteen 21 Apr 2017 12:44:17 44,631 posts
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    That's just an ATX motherboard isnt it? You could fit it into an S340 elite and go back to air cooling (or redesign your custom loop into it, you can fit one if you want to, i did!)

    Also glad to see another Barrow fittings user, did you buy them from the bloke on Ebay? Nothing bad to say about them at all

    Edited by THFourteen at 12:45:02 21-04-2017
  • ISmoke 21 Apr 2017 13:01:26 1,649 posts
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    It is indeed but the cases I want are more for micro ATX and I'll be sticking with watercooling as I just prefer it over air cooling (even those the price difference is shocking) Got my eyes on the Fractal Design Arc Mini R2. Going to be fiddly but I should be able to get a 360mm and a 240mm radiator in that case but it means losing use of HDDs and disc drives, both of which I'm happy to give up. Not had a CD drive in either my desktop or laptop for the last 5 or so years.

    I got them through eBay so chances are yes! I was very sceptical of them at first as they were so much cheaper than everything else but the quality was fantastic. I'll be using them again in the future for sure.
  • ibenam 22 Apr 2017 16:46:16 3,031 posts
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    Looking to build a budget 1080p gaming PC,

    what do you guys think about this?

    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NMBj7h

    ill be getting some parts off ebay to bring the cost down to ~350

    i already have kb mouse monitor and windows.
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