Edge owns Tim Langdell. Seriously (Edge)

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  • Deleted user 6 June 2009 18:26:57
    So this arsehole (in my opinion, please don't sue me, Tim!) thinks just because he owns a 'games company' called Edge Games he owns the word 'edge', particularly in pertaining to videogames, and has threatened the makers of a really cool iPhone game called 'Edge'. As such they've taken their game off the App Store pending legal action. The last game this prick made was 1994.

    Here amongst other places.

    Sorry if old.
  • Deleted user 6 June 2009 18:28:36
    Oh I forgot to say, check out the graphic he's posted on his site - embedded in the article to save you giving him website hits.
  • Retroid Moderator 6 Jun 2009 18:28:53 44,501 posts
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    .... and I thought Fairlight was over-rated.
  • angeltreats 6 Jun 2009 18:30:10 2,602 posts
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    Hahahahaha wanker.
  • Super_Zee 6 Jun 2009 18:33:10 2,108 posts
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    Says Mobigame's David Papazian (to Fingergaming): "If you already asked why Soul Edge (the Namco game) was called Soul Blade and later Soulcalibur in the US, you have your answer."

    O_O

    What a total fucking idiot. Edge is a brilliant game, such a shame that's it's been taken down while this fucker has a fit.

  • Deleted user 6 June 2009 18:33:15
    Actually I just did a little look for his name on the Edge forum to see if they're talking about it there and the only thread I found was this one from 2003 - so it seems he's actually been using that logo for much longer than the Kotaku article suggests.

    I wonder what his problem with the world is?
  • Benno 6 Jun 2009 18:34:23 9,386 posts
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    jesus you proper bum apple dont you
  • Deleted user 6 June 2009 18:34:30
    Also that Kotaku article is from 30th May - it seems to have gone un-noticed unless I'm just blind. Maybe E3 has kinda buried it.
  • Retroid Moderator 6 Jun 2009 18:34:51 44,501 posts
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    MrED209 wrote:
    I wonder what his problem with the world is?
    There are people more talented than him?

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  • Deleted user 6 June 2009 18:35:29
    Super_Zee wrote:
    Says Mobigame's David Papazian (to Fingergaming): "If you already asked why Soul Edge (the Namco game) was called Soul Blade and later Soulcalibur in the US, you have your answer."

    O_O

    What a total fucking idiot. Edge is a brilliant game, such a shame that's it's been taken down while this fucker has a fit.

    I know! How the hell did he beat Sega/Namco down?!
  • psychokitten Moderator 6 Jun 2009 18:37:07 7,791 posts
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    Yeah, I was reading about this on GAF a few days ago. Seems like someone is bitter he's never had a decent idea or talent, makes his money through lawyers. Urgh.
  • Xerx3s 6 Jun 2009 18:41:00 23,944 posts
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    Old?
  • Deleted user 6 June 2009 18:42:24
    Well probably - I searched for 'edge' but hey.
  • psychokitten Moderator 6 Jun 2009 18:42:56 7,791 posts
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    Tim Langdell at GDC:

    https://upload.cmpevents.com/GD09/a.asp?option=G&V=3&id=228094

    - How to Design Your Game So That its IP is More Valuable to Hollywood
    - How to Sell Your IP to Hollywood (Without Selling Your Soul)
    - Who Controls a Game's IP and Who Reaps the Financial Benefit?
  • Retroid Moderator 6 Jun 2009 18:45:16 44,501 posts
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    I'd kick him in the edgeticles.
  • Deleted user 18 June 2009 20:09:17
    So much for that attempt to screw innocent hard working software developers out of their deserved cash over the use of a FUCKING WORD then eh, Tim Cockwipe!
  • Deleted user 18 June 2009 20:23:09
    Found this blog entry which is interesting:

    [code]English born Tim Langdell is an author, a university professor, CEO of Edge Games, and in my humble opinion, a huge jerk (along with some other choice words that I really shouldn't repeat).

    Edge Games was founded in 1979 as a small game development studio in London, England before moving to Pasadena, California in 1990 (thus successfully escaping a court ruling to pay several programmers they had stiffed). Originally the company was named 'Softek Software' but was latter changed to the more edgy Edge Games moniker.

    Along with this change in name came Langdell's biggest claim to fame (name one game his company has produced, I'm sure you cannot), the apparent trademarking of the four letter word 'Edge' for any and all purposes (likely this occurred around the year 1984).

    Most recently, the popular puzzle game "Edge" was pulled from Apple's App Store after Langdell complained hard and long enough to them (full story). The makers of this game, Mobigames, then tried to compromise and rename the game Edgy, but as soon as Langdell heard this news, he promptly trademaked the word 'edgy' too, thus further cementing his status as a huge douchebag.

    Perhaps the biggest know case involving Langdell was that of the Soul Edge series of games, which results in several version of the game being renamed to Soul Caliber before the lawsuit was dismissed in 2002.

    The lawsuit against EA for their game Mirror's Edge video game may be the most bizarre of all these situations. Edge Games apparently has a game in development called Mirrors, which they are now marketing as "Mirrors (a new game from) Edge" with the text "a new game from" in a tiny font, making it appear that this game is called Mirrors Edge (thus bolstering their claim of IP confusion to the courts).

    There are several other cases involving Langdell as well (and likely more that are not publicly disclosed). Cybernet's game 'Edge Of Extinction', the magazine Edge (which Langdell is paid licensing rights), computer manufacturer Velocity for their 'Velocity Edge' gaming PCs (they settled out of court and now Langdell claims them to be an 'Edge Brand Venture'), the Edge series of comic books by Malibu Comics, and even the 20th Century Fox movie The Edge. I'm not even going to get into the claims that Langdell himself has been deliberately editing his own Wikipedia page in order to hide his sinister ways.

    It is clear from these cases that Langdell has a pattern of targeting anyone that uses the word 'edge' in a desperate cash grab (probably because his company isn't known for his games). Unfortunately in today's society, the cost of fighting a legal battle like this, despite the high probability of success, is often more expensive (and very time consuming) than to simply settle the case or change the offending name. Scum like Langdell know this and will continue to prosper from it.


    Extra Bonus Content
    There is a lot going on right now reguarding Langdell. I'll add extra pieces I find below as I find them (too hard to try and work thing into the story above).

    Email from a former developer for Edge Games:
    "I had to get a lawyer to get them [Tim and Cheri] to pay me the money they owed me for Fairlight. They refused to pay me, unless I signed up to make more games for them. As a result, Fairlight II was released without my approval, with several known bugs. In the end, I ended up getting some money but they ended up with the rights to Fairlight. I didn't sign up for any more games..... ;o)"

    Email sent by Langdell to Mobigames (unverified):
    Subject: Law Suis Being Filed
    We have thus instructed our attorneys in Los Angeles and London to file suit against your company and against you personally early Monday morning, April 27, 2009...

    We own the mark EDGE throughout Europe, too, and in all other countries worldwide that iTunes is available in [...] We will sue you too in all those other countries as well and this matter will either get resolved by all those law suits going to a conclusion (that will cost you not less than several million dollars) or by you seeing sense and settling with us...

    We have instructed our attorneys to start the law suits in the U.S. and UK today, and you will be served with those complaints through your attorney next week [/code]

    Wow. He trademarked 'edgy'?!!?!

    This man is a Grade-A Fucking Cunt.
  • Youthist 18 Jun 2009 20:33:03 9,896 posts
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    Retroid wrote:

    .... and I thought Fairlight was over-rated.

    The is fookin blasphemy. Awesome game.

    Think of how stupid the average person is, and realise half of them are stupider than that

  • Retroid Moderator 18 Jun 2009 20:37:33 44,501 posts
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    :D

    Tim Langdell is a massive thundercunt, though.
  • Whizzo 18 Jun 2009 20:39:15 42,758 posts
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    Fairlight was over-rated in my opinion too, not half as over-rated as Tim Langdell thinks his "illustrious" career is though.

    Someone should push him through a hEdge and off the Edge of a cliff on the other side.

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  • thedaveeyres 18 Jun 2009 20:39:53 9,708 posts
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    How the fuck did he get away with trademarking a word like that? Ridiculous.

    D****** ******r

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  • Deleted user 18 June 2009 20:40:15
    How can you trademark a word exclusively?
  • Deleted user 18 June 2009 20:41:20
    I have absolutely no idea. o_O
  • Deleted user 18 June 2009 20:41:42
    Can we trademark the words TIM and LANGDELL?
  • Trowel 18 Jun 2009 20:42:06 16,845 posts
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    I'm surprised Bono hasn't been on the bloody telly campaigning.
  • Deleted user 18 June 2009 20:42:09
    DOOOO ITTTT
  • ecureuil 18 Jun 2009 20:42:22 76,006 posts
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    Exactly what I was about to say - how the hell can you trademark a word?

    /runs off to trademark "the" and sues anybody that uses it
  • Deleted user 18 June 2009 20:43:21
    I suppose not coz technically they're names, not words.

    I mean what an absolute fucking wanker. Mobigames is probably a handful of people working hard to feed their families and that prick tried to take millions of dollars from them, even going so far as to trademark the name they were going to change to in order to avoid his twattishness. If there was a God, He'd strike this prick down tomorrow.
  • PES_Fanboy 18 Jun 2009 20:44:27 11,617 posts
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    You can't trademark a word, but obviously, you can trademark a word WITHIN AN INDUSTRY.
  • ecureuil 18 Jun 2009 20:48:53 76,006 posts
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    I had no idea with that about Soul Edge/Blade/Calibur though. I thought the name change was just to appeal to a Western audience.
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