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  • Psychotext 1 Jul 2013 19:43:31 53,846 posts
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    Confirmed: http://www.fia.com/news/fia-seeks-solution-silverstone-tyre-failures

    Mercedes agrees not to attend.
  • Rusty_M 1 Jul 2013 19:43:34 4,579 posts
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    This might just work.

    The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine.

  • altitude2k 1 Jul 2013 19:46:32 3,844 posts
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    I wonder if there will be restrictions on what the race drivers can actually test.
  • Psychotext 1 Jul 2013 19:50:10 53,846 posts
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    Edit - Young drivers can still test new parts. Main drivers only on tyres.

    Edited by Psychotext at 19:51:51 01-07-2013
  • altitude2k 1 Jul 2013 19:51:23 3,844 posts
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    Made me giggle.

    Miwionnaires
  • Psychotext 1 Jul 2013 21:09:02 53,846 posts
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    Is it wrong that I want to point out that the softs weren't in use at Silverstone? :p
  • altitude2k 1 Jul 2013 21:22:15 3,844 posts
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    It really really is. Be ashamed!
  • Psychotext 1 Jul 2013 23:25:30 53,846 posts
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    :mad:

    Edited by Psychotext at 23:25:45 01-07-2013
  • Mekanik 2 Jul 2013 10:17:54 3,437 posts
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    Just looked at the predictor thing. 61 points \o/

    Got pole, fastest lap and most positions gained correct + some others.

    If only Hammy (and Vettel) hadnt dropped out from the front that could have been epic!!
  • Nth 2 Jul 2013 10:48:59 3,119 posts
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    Some great onboard footage here from Silverstone

    http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/groups/f1/forum/topic/pass-of-the-year-2013-british-grand-prix/#post-102683
  • Psychotext 2 Jul 2013 11:13:53 53,846 posts
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    Story on the BBC saying that they'll have the kevlar belted tyres at the German GP this weekend. No idea how they could have done it that fast though.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/23141389
  • Nth 2 Jul 2013 11:24:37 3,119 posts
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    Aren't they the tyres that should have come in for Canada? So confusing!
  • Deleted user 2 July 2013 13:10:20
    @RobTheBuilder I understand that, but it doesn't take away the fact that Pirelli (amongst the 'elite' tyre manufacturers) produce the poorer quality tyres.
  • thelzdking 2 Jul 2013 13:16:26 4,326 posts
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    Do they?
  • Deleted user 2 July 2013 13:21:08
    Indeed.
  • SaucyGeoff 2 Jul 2013 13:42:43 2,560 posts
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    @Nth Yeah, the ones Ferrari, Lotus and FI blocked. Seems they are harder to warm up, so understandable why they are against it. Then apparently a return to 2012 construction from Hungary.
  • shamblemonkee 2 Jul 2013 14:06:56 14,273 posts
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    @feeg86 and how are you judging that?
  • Deleted user 2 July 2013 14:23:09
    This is going to sound like a silly link but my Mother has just finished 41 years in the tyre manufacturing industry and knows her stuff. From what she told me whilst watching on Sunday, it's pretty much an agreed fact amongst the people that actually develop and produce tyres in the Uk and Europe that Pirelli produce the worse tyres.
  • shamblemonkee 2 Jul 2013 15:49:26 14,273 posts
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    Strange, pirelli pzeros are quite respected tyres i thought (certainly pricey enough).

    Aside from that though tyres for the racing categories that pirelli supports will be under a totally different production programme, process and regime than the road division. the ones for racing are going to be bespoke to that series and bear no relation in quality to road stuff.

    I'm sure that if they wanted to they could make a tyre the same as bridgestone did that will last an entire race and basically be bulletproof.

    the issue at the moment is one of attempting to produce a tyre with certain parameters of degradation whilst retaining integrity and doing that with extremely limited testing.
  • Deleted user 2 July 2013 16:07:28
    It's a fair answer mate, though I'm honestly not sure they're up to the task.

    Either way it certainly spiced up the GP, rightly or wrongly.

    Edited by feeg86 at 16:08:00 02-07-2013
  • altitude2k 2 Jul 2013 18:27:01 3,844 posts
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    It's all about Conties ;-)
  • superdelphinus 2 Jul 2013 18:30:38 8,035 posts
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    It's all about the evidence from mothers
  • shamblemonkee 2 Jul 2013 19:18:28 14,273 posts
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  • altitude2k 2 Jul 2013 19:27:06 3,844 posts
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    Interesting.
  • mal 2 Jul 2013 19:33:23 22,339 posts
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    There's making it so teams need to come in for new tyres during the race due to wear, and there's making tyres that go pop if you scuff the kerb, as appears to be the case here if you believe Anderson's analysis.

    Now I can only assume that came about due to trying to keep tyre weight down, since it simply can't be the case they're making road tyres or other race tyres that are so fragile. And to be fair, grinding the walls, especially on the inside of the tyre, it not something you'd normally think to take into account when designing a race tyre. But now you would, I guess.

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

  • superdelphinus 2 Jul 2013 20:17:40 8,035 posts
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    http://adamcooperf1.com/2013/07/02/pirellis-full-report-on-the-silverstone-debacle/

    So it was the teams being mental, according to Pirelli
  • DanB24 2 Jul 2013 20:34:41 1,796 posts
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    Certainly sounds plausible to me I must say.
  • thelzdking 2 Jul 2013 20:35:44 4,326 posts
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    Sounds plausible to me too.
  • altitude2k 2 Jul 2013 21:29:16 3,844 posts
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    Sounds very clumsy of Pirelli to design the tyres in that way (which is fair enough - even logical) but then not to expicitly request they be put on the right way round.
  • captainlk 2 Jul 2013 22:12:36 33 posts
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    Interesting read. If some of the teams vetoed the Canada tires before, it seems likely they'll do the same again. Seems quite possible they'll just have to use the same tires but the right way around and at the recommended pressure for Germany.
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