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  • DanB24 21 Dec 2012 18:57:25 1,391 posts
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    Good point. She may well be happier being a roving pitlane reporter.
    Well assuming she still is as Suzy's the only one confirmed so far.
  • thelzdking 21 Dec 2012 22:46:55 3,961 posts
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    Whether she wanted it or not Lee McKenzie > Suzi Perry.
  • DanB24 21 Dec 2012 23:34:06 1,391 posts
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    Mmmm she does indeed.
  • Nth 22 Dec 2012 12:10:08 3,114 posts
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    Having read and listened to a lot of seasonal reviews, it's almost embarrassing for Vettel how few experts said he deserved the title. He still has a lot of people to convince it seems. Nice guy though!
  • Psychotext 22 Dec 2012 13:03:37 52,778 posts
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    Pointless even discussing it though. Until he's in a team with either Hamilton or Alonso it'll always happen. Alonso's PR is untouchable and as Hamilton beat him that one year Alonso will never be able to say he's not up to his level.

    In the mean time, Vettel has three world championships and probably doesn't care too much what the also rans have to say. ;)
  • DanB24 22 Dec 2012 13:49:56 1,391 posts
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    I'd say it's more until Vettel wins a championship without a massive car advantage.
  • StarchildHypocrethes 22 Dec 2012 13:51:30 24,559 posts
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    Like the season just gone then.
  • Psychotext 22 Dec 2012 14:15:57 52,778 posts
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    StarchildHypocrethes wrote:
    Like the season just gone then.
    Precisely. Ignoring the fact that F1 is almost never won by a driver with just an OK car. (Unless the fast cars have utterly horrible reliability)
  • AaronTurner 22 Dec 2012 15:05:36 7,521 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Pointless even discussing it though. Until he's in a team with either Hamilton or Alonso it'll always happen. Alonso's PR is untouchable and as Hamilton beat him that one year Alonso will never be able to say he's not up to his level.

    In the mean time, Vettel has three world championships and probably doesn't care too much what the also rans have to say. ;)
    If you are talking about when they were at McLaren I think they both finished on the same points.
  • SaucyGeoff 22 Dec 2012 15:23:37 2,480 posts
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    True, same number of wins too, but the history books will show Lewis beat him courtesy of 5 second places to Fernando's 4.
  • superdelphinus 22 Dec 2012 16:16:08 7,265 posts
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    Not to mention one of them was in his first ever season of f1, the other the contemporaneous double world champion. Already impatient for feb to come around. Last season was good, but there was too much random shit happening with the top guys for me. If there was a chance to have three cars in a team, shouldn't they do it even if purely for the increased chances of vettel, Hamilton and alonso all in the same team?!
  • AaronTurner 22 Dec 2012 16:59:01 7,521 posts
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    I think Hamilton has a lot of talent but if anything age and experience has diminished his ability. His talent is quite raw and unquestionable but his mindset is all over the place. For me Alonso has kicked on from his time at McLaren, he hasn't won another world title but he is probably the most flawless of all the drivers on the field, Hamilton will have to do some serious improving (and so will Mercedes) to regain his previous stature.

    On the other hand, I think Vettel is a pretty damn good driver too and I still can't grasp why people think otherwise.
  • superdelphinus 22 Dec 2012 17:46:39 7,265 posts
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    That's a bit if an outdated view of Hamilton in my view. 2011 seems to have fundamentally damaged how people view him unfortunately. Hamilton was fantastic last season I think, barely a foot out of place (on the track at least, and I'm old school enough to only really care about that) and easily up there with alonso. With a more reliable car and a less incredibly shit team at the start of the season he would have won the champs at a canter I reckon.

    Edited by superdelphinus at 17:47:02 22-12-2012
  • Nth 22 Dec 2012 18:10:27 3,114 posts
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    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104922

    I can only assume Nico has a massive drink problem to keep coming out with statements like this :D
  • DanB24 22 Dec 2012 18:19:03 1,391 posts
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    It's the time of year for guff like that to come out of the teams sadly.
    Right up till after the 1st race when most of them quietly forget their predictions of progress, dominance etc.
  • Psychotext 22 Dec 2012 18:42:57 52,778 posts
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    superdelphinus wrote:
    If there was a chance to have three cars in a team, shouldn't they do it even if purely for the increased chances of vettel, Hamilton and alonso all in the same team?!
    Ha, god... could you imagine the politics and backbiting? :D
  • Kostabi 25 Dec 2012 11:25:48 4,661 posts
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    I've just done my annual tradition of a beer and the Autosport quiz for my Christmas morning quiet time.

    You scored 20/50 (40.00%).

    F1 only: 6/12 (50.00%).

    Non-F1: 14/38 (36.84%).

    http://www.autosport.com/christmas/quiz2012/index.html
  • DanB24 28 Dec 2012 13:05:51 1,391 posts
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    Worth a watch http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01pm87p/Racing_Legends_Stirling_Moss/ :)
  • Nth 20 Jan 2013 21:16:28 3,114 posts
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    Glock has left Marussia, so yet another pay driver will be announced soon no doubt.
  • Kostabi 20 Jan 2013 21:22:08 4,661 posts
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    Real shame for Glock and Marussia. For all the faults they never really roamed around with the begging bowl and having Glock on their team showed they wanted to be taken seriously instead of a pay driver retirement home.

    In fact the new teams definitely come across as more professional than Jordan or Minardi did in their later years.
  • PatrickEwing 20 Jan 2013 22:42:18 2,088 posts
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    So Petrov to step into marussia seat then?
  • DanB24 22 Jan 2013 18:20:32 1,391 posts
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    Probably Benson talking out his arse again but if not it's madness.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21143847
  • jellyhead 22 Jan 2013 18:31:12 24,350 posts
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    75 days until the first MotoGP. April 7th can't come soon enough.

    Can't wait to see Tech3 or Team RoastBeef now they have Cal and Bradders riding for them.

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  • Deleted user 22 January 2013 18:37:08
    Yeah hopefully T3 will have a competitive bike again. Be great to see Cal..or both picking up the odd podium again.

    Also more good news, Kubica is too test a DTM car soon.
  • X201 26 Jan 2013 15:59:11 14,696 posts
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    Heads up.

    The Colin McRae episode of that Racing Legends series is on Tomorrow at 10pm

    Edited by X201 at 15:59:38 26-01-2013
  • Nth 26 Jan 2013 20:02:22 3,114 posts
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    I'm afraid I find it odd that McRae is still thought of as a hero when you think how he died, the whole thing was pretty sordid.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_McRae#Investigation

    Edited by Nth at 20:05:21 26-01-2013
  • Cosquae 26 Jan 2013 20:10:31 1,089 posts
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    First (sort of) major racing event of the season starting up now. Daytona 24hrs. Kind of le-mans lite with a few drivers you might have heard of.
  • Kostabi 26 Jan 2013 21:34:58 4,661 posts
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    Proper race is that. The depth of talent with the NASCAR and Indycar boys riding around with the usual sportscar and journeymen racers is amazing really.

    The DPs might not be legit prototypes but they produce some decent racing, personally can't wait for next year when P2s can race at Daytona.
  • PatrickEwing 26 Jan 2013 21:56:26 2,088 posts
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    Nth wrote:
    I'm afraid I find it odd that McRae is still thought of as a hero when you think how he died, the whole thing was pretty sordid.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_McRae#Investigation
    Was there any reason given as to why the Colin McRae programme wasn't show at Christmas as scheduled. I wonder If it may have been in relation to the sensitivities of his death and who he took with him and the time of year.
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