Virtua Tennis 3 Review

New balls please.

Version tested: Xbox 360

The sign of a really good sports game is one that you find hugely enjoyable even when you're not a massive fan of the sport itself. Take the Virtua Tennis games. Despite only having a passing interest in the rising fortunes of teenage wunderkind Andy Murray, and despite watching a sum total of, ooh, two matches a year, as a videogame it's probably in my all-time top five. Few sports games have ever been so easy to pick up and play, yet had so much hidden depth. It sounds like the sort of tired hyperbole that you'd read in an excitable press release, but it's true.

The secret of AM3's success has always been to combine a simple, precise control system with spectacularly fluid animation. Everything after that falls into place and just works the way it should. Virtua Tennis 2, in particular, is one of the most beautifully instinctive videogames ever created for the simple reason that the game reads your shot input so precisely. Once you give that degree of control and flexibility to the player, you quickly zone out of even thinking about what you're doing any more. Played with someone of a similar level, it's almost a mind game where you're constantly having to second guess where the opponent is going to play their shot so you can run into the space and dictate the play.

It's one of the fastest, most competitive and challenging sporting titles out there, but one where you rarely ever curse the game when things don't go right for you. You'll lose because your position left you exposed, or you didn't time your shot properly, or maybe you just chose the wrong shot. It's one of those games where one more go is never enough, and one that even when you've mastered it will be kept alive in multiplayer forever.

Where did the years go?

'Virtua Tennis 3' Screenshot 1

Attack of the mutant tennis balls from mars.

More than five years have passed since VT2 graced the Dreamcast, and although the inferior PS2 port, the ill-advised GBA version and the splendid PSP port have kept the brand alive, the need for a proper sequel with full online play has been there ever since. With such a gaping void to fill, challengers such as Top Spin have come close to giving us what we wanted, but always slightly missed the mark. Adding novelties like risk shots and a more elaborate control system might sound like good ideas on paper, but they failed to give the game the same flowing playability. Inevitably we'd always come back to VT 2 for a quick session whenever fellow Virtua-philes popped round for the evening.

Perhaps even more inevitably, those 'quick sessions' often went on long into the night, making the lack of online play even more galling. We always knew that with online play it would have been played ten times more than it was. The fact that VT3 on 360 has online play is perhaps one of the best decisions Sega has ever made. The fact that the PS3 version doesn't have it is, at the very least, annoying - and possibly the main reason why we'd immediately suggest that any serious VT fans plump for the Xbox on this occasion, even though it's, technically, a 'port' by the ever-reliable Sumo.

But before we get bogged down with the online issue, most of you are probably fretting that AM3 (a.k.a. Hitmaker) has broken the game with unnecessary tweaks and refinements to the fundamentals. Relax. The basic control system is, thankfully, the same as ever, with a main 'shot' button being the one you'll focus most of your attention on, along with the usual slice and lob shots. Serving works exactly the same as it always did, with a single tap to fill a rising power bar, another to confirm the power, and the dpad or stick direction determining where it will land. One minor difference is how much harder it is to aim the ball in the corner of the court, and at first you'll find yourself faulting far more than you might expect.

Running man

'Virtua Tennis 3' Screenshot 2

That ball boy at the back is already ducking out of the way in anticipation.

Similarly, returning shots isn't quite as straightforward or as forgiving as it once was. In the past, the AI would give you a fighting chance of returning ball even when you weren't all that close to it. It wasn't cheating as such, but sort of worked out a correct transitional animation in an instant and blended it into a flowing movement that made it a plausible spectacle. Try playing VT3 the same way, though, and any shots that are obviously out of reach will cause your player to attempt a Running Shot and dive in a rather dramatic attempt to reach it. Now, as much as that was always a factor in previous VTs, it's immediately apparent that you have to do a bit more work in actually positioning your player in advance of hitting the shot button. As jarring as this feels to begin with, it's makes the game slightly more believable, and adds a certain depth to how you play. Previously you could basically focus all your efforts on where your shot was going; as long as you were quite near the position of the return ball, you'd be able to deliver a powerful, precise return. In VT3, though, positioning is a much bigger part of the way you play, because the better your position, the more time you have to prepare yourself for the shot, and the more power you will apply to it when the ball comes to you.

As you get better at reading the game, and anticipating where the return ball is going, you'll be regularly pulling off what VT3 calls 'power' shots, complete with an extra grunt of effort and a little leap into the air to show that you've really put some welly into it. Just like previous VTs, applying a direction to your shot determines where you want it to go, and the longer you hold that direction, the more extreme the results will be. Working out how to hit a particular part of the court isn't quite the exact science it used to be, but as a result the game feels more unpredictable. In the long run, I can't help but feel that's going to be a plus.

So, in terms of how the game works, there's not a huge amount to report. It's largely sticking to a tried and trusted system, but has been tweaked in such a way to give it a little bit more depth. You might not initially get on with it, but as you might expect, you soon get used to it, and soon become just as instinctive with your play - so that's the really important stuff out of the way.

Tour of duty

'Virtua Tennis 3' Screenshot 3

Nice shadows, proper spectators, hairy legs. Now that's next gen.

The main single player World Tour career mode is arguably the place you should spend most of your time re-learning the ropes. It's largely the same as it's always been, with a few minor additions to spice things up, and a few rather pointless elements grafted on, but more of that in a moment. First up you'll have to create your own custom character, and utilising a slider bar system you can quickly knock up something suitably ludicrous. It's not quite in the league of the methods used by EA, though, so don't expect much - the results are relatively limited.

Once that's out of the way, you set about working your way up the rankings from 300, all the way to the world's number one. To do so, you have to enter singles and doubles tournaments over the course of the year and try and win them, but to do so requires a fair bit of effort on your behalf in terms of upgrading your character's various skill levels. Just like before, you have to successfully complete numerous training mini games, such as the Avalanche footwork training game that involves dodging giant tennis balls while collecting fruit.

Elsewhere, some old favourites return, such as Prize Defender, where you have to protect at least one prize from being knocked off its pedestal by several ball firing machines. In addition, there's the service improving Pin Crusher, which involves trying to knock down bowling pins, as well as Drum Topple, Alien Attack, Bull's Eye and even one based on Curling and Bingo. Series veterans will recognise most of them from previous incarnations of the game, but this time the challenges go up to level six and can get particularly severe. Usefully, once you reach later levels, you're not restricted to only playing those higher levels, and can continue to improve your stats by playing the lower level versions - with the benefit to your stats being proportionately lessened.

Sheer stat attack

Over the course of your career, you'll essentially be engaged in a mixture of obsessive minigame playing (to get your stats up), and the various matches (to get your rank up). But as familiar as all this probably looks to the old hands reading this, the World Tour benefits from the addition of a Tennis Academy, where you get some excellent (and often essential) tuition on how to pull off certain shots, or the best ways to, for example, drag your opponent closer to the net so that you can lob them. Grouped into Beginner, Normal and Advanced, you learn all sorts of things you might not otherwise try out - and if you do get them right your stats improve into the bargain.

But other new additions are pretty superfluous, and even downright annoying - such as various pros popping up at different times to have entirely pointless 'interactions' with you. They might appear to be offering some advice (to get some rest, for instance), but mostly they are as inane as the interactions in the next gen Sonic game, and merely show up AM3's inability to pull of any semblance of facial animation on its otherwise impressive character models.

Perhaps more annoying is how the game has introduced injuries into the equation. On the surface, the idea of looking after yourself and not constantly training or competing is sound. Obviously such things play a very big part in the life of any tennis pro, and you would expect any player to suffer from little sprains, and so on. But the thing that proved most annoying about the whole system wasn't having to take rest and drink energy drinks to replenish stamina, it was that even when you were being vigilant, the game would still find a way to punish you. And when you get a really bad injury, it can rob you of several levels of ability, forcing you to slavishly replay minigames you've probably already played scores of times. Needless to say, if the repetition of the minigames has ever bugged you in the past, it will do so just as much here.

'Virtua Tennis 3' Screenshot 4

See you online for some doubles?

But the payback for all the effort you put into playing World Tour is the ability to use your custom character in other modes, such as the rather basic Tournament mode (where you have to face five opponents one after the other), or the various multiplayer modes, such as the versus-only Court games (which take the mini game concepts into an offline-only competitve environment for up to four players). Obviously, such a feature only really comes into its own if you're facing other human opponents, and while you can engage in the usual singles or doubles matches, online is clearly going to be a big draw for many of us. As you'd expect, the Xbox Live implementation is slick, easy to set up and allows you to play ranked or player matches.

Online heaven

Ranked online matches are pretty limited, though. All you can compete in are three game, single set matches, which are available in singles, men's doubles or mixed doubles. But with the ability to enter your custom character or use one of the 20 licensed pros, it's a pleasant lag-free diversion, complete with a worldwide trueskill leaderboard. We'll definitely be playing it a lot, but it's not quite as interesting as it could have been, you feel.

Unranked Player matches, though, are a different story. They offer everything that the ranked matches don't and offer enormous scope for short matches or vast, sprawling epics; you can play matches over one, three or five sets, with up to the regulation six games per set (plus tie breakers), or, you can even compete in a tournament for up to nine players (including computer opponents). In addition to the regular one-on-one matches, you can also plump for doubles encounters, with men or women only, or with a mixture of the two. Not only that, you can select any venue you feel like, toggle the computer AI level over four levels of difficulty, and even reserve private slots for friends. In summary, it's exactly what we wanted.

'Virtua Tennis 3' Screenshot 5

Ten pin bowling, but not as we know it.

Also, a rather nice addition to the online fun is something Sega's calling 'VTV'. As the name implies, it effectively allows you to browse a list of other people's matches and watch them in real-time, and even replay ones that you've just had online yourself. As self-indulgent as this might be, it's actually a lot of fun to see the action again from multiple camera angles that aren't normally available to you - such as overhead or close up, as well as the usual behind-the-player view. It's a great little bonus.

Overall, VT3 is a solid package that doesn't mess too much with what made the series great in the first place, buffs up the already brilliant visuals and creates another fantastic game. Admittedly the music is absolutely excruciating generic guitar sludge, but fortunately you can switch it off in the main menu. In a way, the rubbish music was always part of the charm, believe it or not.

Regardless of whether you've played a Virtua Tennis game or not, this is one of those games that no self-respecting gamer should miss out on, because not only is it the best tennis game on the market, it's also one of the best sports games ever made, full stop. Granted, Virtua Tennis 3 might not represent a big leap forward from the last one, but in many ways that's a good thing. There wasn't an awful lot that AM3 and Sumo needed to do other than to give it slightly more depth, tweak the visuals and add online play, and it has succeeded on all fronts - at least as far as the 360 version is concerned.

9 / 10

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Comments (80) Latest comment 4 years ago

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  • JediMasterMalik #1 5 years ago

  • Overlush #2 5 years ago

    Thought the demo was dull :(
  • Introspectre #3 5 years ago

  • Errol #4 5 years ago

    The sign of a really good sports game is one that's actually more interesting and more exciting than the sport that it's supposed to be simulating

    Anyone who has saw the Masters Series finals in Monte Carlo or Rome last year would not agree. No game could come close. Similarly, actually getting onto a court and playing tennis oneself will always beat playing on a TV screen.

    Unless you are physically incapable. Or otherwise incapacitated.
  • #5 5 years ago

    Better than...........

    Virtua Tennis 2 \o/
  • krudster #6 5 years ago

    The point, really, was that you don't have to enjoy Tennis to be a massive Virtua Tennis fan. I'm really not cussing the sport.
  • Errol #7 5 years ago

    Well, with any luck, people who like the game will give the real game a go.
  • JediMasterMalik #8 5 years ago

    I'm very dissappointed that Sega hasn't included online with the PS3 version. Maybe it's cause of the developers (different devs for different versions iirc), but either way it's a dissappointment. Here's hoping for a patch at which point I may buy it.
    Edited by 1 at 21/03/07 @ 17:04
  • Overlush #9 5 years ago

    @Jedi

    You could always buy a 360 ;)
    Edited by 1 at 21/03/07 @ 16:39
  • northernlights #10 5 years ago

    Wow 9/10 wasnt expecting that. Not heard great things about this to be honest.
  • Huntcjna #11 5 years ago

    Wow, I was reading a few indifferent reviews of this today but now I probably have to buy it! O_o

    At least I can trade in Top Spin 2 finally. :)
  • Eldritch #12 5 years ago

  • Xerx3s #13 5 years ago

    Overlush: When hell freezes over.

    /pokes JMM with a stick
  • JediMasterMalik #14 5 years ago

    I will, when they make online play free. It'll happen.
  • Riskbreaker_Ashley #15 5 years ago

    Sorry Krudster... you got a typo... :)

    Edit - thanks, fixed!

    :S
    Edited by 2 at 21/03/07 @ 17:02
  • El_MUERkO #16 5 years ago

    Sounds sweeet but krud seems to love online play which suggests the PS3 version would get a far lower score.
  • morriss #17 5 years ago

    Do power and speed win out on-line 100% of the time like on Top Spin? Or can spin and precision win you games?
  • morriss #18 5 years ago

    Well, I told you (teh EG massive) all this from my demo impressions didn't I? Timing, positioning = tennis: therefore VT3 = fantastic sports simulation.

    ;)
  • [maven] #19 5 years ago

    Under "Online heaven"
    not quite an interesting as it could have been.

    Edit - thanks again, fixed.
    Edited by 1 at 21/03/07 @ 17:03
  • LeD #20 5 years ago

    JMM: I don't think Capcom could have done anything about online gaming in the PS3 version. Think about it. ;)
  • Dezm0nd #21 5 years ago

    Who's been eating the E numbered sweets today at eurogamer?

    That a 9 and a 10 in one day! Just kidding, nice score.
  • JediMasterMalik #22 5 years ago

    @LeD - Are you trying to outwin yourself for the most obscure joke?

    The only thing I got from that was that Capcom were somehow involved in making the PS3 version, which makes no sense. I did say developer, not publisher, which is what Sega are. Though maybe I confused the situation by blaming Sega. AARRGGHHH!
  • mattigan #23 5 years ago

    "cussing" I haven't heard or used that one for a while, you're giving your age away there Krudster.
  • LeD #24 5 years ago

    I quote:

    "I'm very dissappointed that capcom hasn't included online with the PS3 version."
  • JediMasterMalik #25 5 years ago

    Fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck

    That is all.
  • LeD #26 5 years ago

  • Paulanator #27 5 years ago

    It seems that online play makes a pretty big difference. Sucks to have a PS3!
  • McGeeza #28 5 years ago

    "I will, when they make online play free. It'll happen."

    I know you've probably been told this 100s of times but you can get a year's gold sub for about £20 on ebay. It really is no excuse in my opinion...
  • JediMasterMalik #29 5 years ago

  • alimokrane #30 5 years ago

    The game has been dispatched for me so hopefully I can get it tomorrow! I am disappointed though that the ranked matches consist only of three game single set matches but I'll get over it.
  • krudster #31 5 years ago

    I've had a copy that runs on my retail box for about 12 days now, and only today have I actually managed to play anyone online. I'm curious how all the other reviews on the net have been able to talk about online play at all, given this is a pretty fundamental issue :)

    Having just read a bunch of the other reviews out there, most get around the subject by totally glossing over the online play (just basically saying that it's in there), but for many players this is going to be possibly the main reason they'll be buying it. I'm a bit stunned by how much some people have missed the point about VT, tbh. To bring up Pong....words fail.

  • samk #32 5 years ago

    I'll take VT3 over Wii Sports any day of the week. Traditional controllers FTW.
  • simo #33 5 years ago

    Spot on Krudster. Shove your career mode and your tournaments up your back passage. Just give me a good on-court simulation, let me hook up to people via the fatpipes, and then leave me in peace dammit! Single player mode in sports games ftl!
  • morriss #34 5 years ago

    Ok, krudster, thanks though. The thing that irritated me about Top Spin was all a created player had to have was speed and power and it would decimate everything and everyone in its path.

    People also exploited ways in winning very easy points by serving ultra soft, making your player run to the net, scoop the return, and then they murder you. Very boring indeed.
  • bonker #35 5 years ago

    ""I will, when they make online play free. It'll happen."

    I know you've probably been told this 100s of times but you can get a year's gold sub for about £20 on ebay. It really is no excuse in my opinion... "

    It is a bit weak given the cost of the alternative :)
  • Nige #36 5 years ago

    Opinion seems to be VERY divided on this game.

    I thought the demo was dull as... personally, which is a shame - 'cos it's my first V.Tennis experience and I was always led to believe it was ace.
  • Ikari2001 #37 5 years ago

    I want VT3 on Wii!!! I just don't want to play tennis on a games console any other way :D
  • Xerx3s #38 5 years ago

    It is a bit weak given the cost of the alternative :)

    I would rather pay that 58 cents a month given the weak alternative.
  • manuel_garcia #39 5 years ago

    Tempted to pick this up on the cheap at some point. Its definately not a £50 game for me when i can just switch on the Dreamcast and play VT2, which is practically the same game if you prefer to get your multiplayer fun with people in the same room.

    Having said that, if your reviewing the game objectively then I definately agree on the 9/10. Anyone new to the series or indeed anyone that hasn't played for years will absolutely fall in love with it. Nothing beats drunken doubles matches :)

    Top review overall, nailed the spirit of the game completely.
  • Tomo #40 5 years ago

    > "Serving works exactly the same as it always did, with a single tap to fill a rising power bar, another to confirm the power, and the dpad or stick direction determining where it will land. One minor difference is how much harder it is to aim the ball in the corner of the court, and at first you'll find yourself faulting far more than you might expect."

    Very disappointing for me. Serving is the only thing that's let the game down for me. Getting an ace was always impossible and it doesn't seem to have changed then :/

    It's a pretty crucial point considering the effect a serve of +100 MASSIV DAMAGE has in the actual sport.
  • alpha-0ne #41 5 years ago

    who in their right mind pays £50 for a video game? the absolute MOST you have to pay is £40 in most case £37 online
    Edited by 1 at 21/03/07 @ 18:42
  • sajtion #42 5 years ago

    what the hell is wrong with this review, do you want some attention? is that it attention? 9 wtf 9 are you crazy? this is 6 the most damn you forever. no drop shop, do lob, no power, no slice. this is not a tennis game get a life and get top spin 2
  • morriss #43 5 years ago

    I've used the drop shot loads of times, and slice.

    What game were you playing?
  • Nige #44 5 years ago

    Tried the demo again on the strength of this - and it just wound me up. Every lob shot, not matter how hard it ought to be to return, is fired back up my *rse at mach 2, every time.

    It's not even fun accidentally.

    Call me grandpa, but I used to love a game of David Crane's Amazing Tennis on my SNES; but this, you can keep.
  • L0cky #45 5 years ago

    I absolutely swear I read this review a couple of months ago. Deja Vu!

    Especially the opening paragraph...
  • Darren #46 5 years ago

    Great review, great demo... should be getting this great game in the post tomorrow morning... can't wait to play it!
  • morriss #47 5 years ago

    Unlucky Nige. You're missing out.
  • DanMW #48 5 years ago

    I wasn't impressed with the demo at all, specially the music which was not very adequate in my opinion.
  • morriss #49 5 years ago

    Unlucky Dan, you're missing out.
  • manuel_garcia #50 5 years ago

    Ok, i'll rephrase for those unable to see past the literal interpretation of any given sentence:

    "Its definately not a full-price game for me"

    Easier?
    Edited by 1 at 21/03/07 @ 20:27
  • neonxaos #51 5 years ago

    Look, it's Pong with 3D and textures. Instant wonderful gameplay!
  • Arwin #52 5 years ago

    This is the first game that made me feel only owning a PS3 would mean missing out on something. I'm not a big fan of tennis games, though I enjoyed the PSP demo. All the same, kudos to the 360 for making online gaming so easy to implement even silly Japanese developers bother ... ;)

    I guess I'll just have to wait till Virtua Tennis 2008 comes out with Online on the PS3 also, with some nice indoor tennis courts in PS Home eh? ;)

    Unless 360 starts supporting the G25 and Forza 2 will actually be good, and they release a quieter SKU ... then who knows ... I'm still paying for Live for my original Xbox, even though I haven't played it for 3 years now, just to keep my silly username ... oh well.
  • Arwin #53 5 years ago

    (yes, yes, I know, I'm a big fanboy ;) )
  • Rodster #54 5 years ago

    "There wasn't an awful lot that AM3 and Sumo needed to do other than to give it slightly more depth, tweak the visuals and add online play, and it has succeed on all fronts - at least as far as the 360 version is concerned."

    Oh really. They should have concentrated on not having the male tennis players dive for just about every ball. It isn't a problem with the women players in the game.

    VT3 is a letdown. I played the demo and i'd give it a 7/10 at best.
  • Peew971 #55 5 years ago

    Apparently it's region free and £26 at Play Asia... Still, I won't get it since it's miles away from the excellent Top Spin 1
  • gogobaka #56 5 years ago

    "Oh really. They should have concentrated on not having the male tennis players dive for just about every ball. It isn't a problem with the women players in the game.

    VT3 is a letdown. I played the demo and i'd give it a 7/10 at best."

    You're just rubbish at the game.
  • floppylobster #57 5 years ago

    Edit: fixed.
    Edited by 3 at 22/03/07 @ 07:52
  • mike_mgoblue #58 5 years ago

    Virtua Tennis 3 is a great game, but ALL of the replay value is in the Online part of the game.

    If you like tennis, you will LOVE Virtua Tennis 3...but only on the Xbox 360. The Playstation 3 version is only worth a rental, because it doesn't include online features.

    Xbox 360 really is MUCH BETTER than the Playstation 3, in terms of both graphics and online play.
  • Zuiyo #59 5 years ago

    God dammit, I might even end up buying a 360!
  • Ceatlan #60 5 years ago

    Can you play proper single player tournaments outside of the world tour ?
    Can you play a career without having to play any of the absolutely awful mini games ?
    Can you play online using the built in real players, or do you have to use your own custom created player ?
    Can you turn the music off, the music in the demo was quite simply some of the worst I've heard in years ? (Probably since the last Sega game I played)
    Can you slow the game down, I thought the demo played way to fast to be fun when your trying to get to grips with it. (Even the original tennis on the game boy had difficulty settings that effectively just slowed the game down on easy levels).

    Ceatlan.
  • floppylobster #61 5 years ago

    //Awaiting an offer for a proof reader/writer
  • McGeeza #62 5 years ago

    "ebaylol"

    ???

    Sorry, you've lost me.
  • speedjack #63 5 years ago

    SOLD !

    VT and Everyones Golf were the only two reason I regretted trading in my PSP... and I don't like Golf or Tennis.
  • krudster #64 5 years ago

    Ceatlan:

    Can you play proper single player tournaments outside of the world tour ?
    **Yes - and you can configure the amount of games/sets/difficulty level.


    Can you play a career without having to play any of the absolutely awful mini games ?
    **Yes, but you won't get very far. You need to play mini games to level up your stats. The mini games are not awful, though.

    Can you play online using the built in real players, or do you have to use your own custom created player ?
    **Yes, you can use either.

    Can you turn the music off, the music in the demo was quite simply some of the worst I've heard in years ? (Probably since the last Sega game I played)
    **Yes, thank god!

    Can you slow the game down, I thought the demo played way to fast to be fun when your trying to get to grips with it. (Even the original tennis on the game boy had difficulty settings that effectively just slowed the game down on easy levels)
    **There are numerous difficulty levels, so in effect yes, plus the female players are slower.
  • Ceatlan #65 5 years ago

    Krudster : Thanks very much for the quick and concise reply. We'll have to agree to disagree about the mini games. In VT2 and Top Spin 1 & 2, I've found some of them fun for all of 5 minutes and most not much fun at all, especially when you have no choice to use them again and again to develope your character. I much preferred the method used in a wimbledon tennis game on the old Sega Game Gear, where you got development points from progressing through tournament which you could spend how you liked.


    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 10:08
  • MrTonyMontana #66 5 years ago

    Thats because you're crap. U can slice, u can lob, u can really do a lot in this game that requires timing and anticipation, as well as instincts. For eg, the slice shot is great for changing the pace of the game suddenly, like real tennis!

    And if u read and anticipated the recieving shot, u wont dive everywhere, but instead do a running-across shot!

    The demo was great, apart from the awful music, but that can be muted anyway in the full game.

    Good review, if u loved vt2, u will apprecaite VT3 even more.

    And as for Top Spin.....well thats just toss.....no real weight to the game. Soz
  • Darren #67 5 years ago

    Well practicing at the demo has really paid off as I got the game this morning and tried an Exhibition game, me as Hewitt vs. Haas and I beat him first time. This game is already teh awesomeness in my opinion and I haven't even played the Career, mini-games or tried it online yet! LOL
  • Talha #68 5 years ago

    This review puzzles me. For the record, I haven't played it yet and currently I am debating which version to go for.

    Point is, it has received less flattering reviews from other places, normally known for their reverential view of anything that moves a few pixels. Check out Metacritic. What's more, the flaws they point out in game mechanics (AI players recovering endless to prolong rallies, uneven career progression, etc) seem quite significant.

    Which has me thinking whether I should stick to Top Spin 2 (PC version is out by the way) since I mostly play with my friends, or is there a point in getting this (other than getting Raphael Nadal and seeing R-Fed realistically ranked at No.1).

    The trouble with Top Spin 2 was of course its risk shots, suddenly making half of the possible shots in Tennis unrealistically unlikely.

    Any thoughts?
  • AceMaCool #69 5 years ago

    Can you and a mate do online doubles co-op?

    I woud like that
  • Max_Powers #70 5 years ago

    My biggest question as well AceMaCool.

    If you can this is a buy, if you can't this game is a no buy

    Anybody know the answer?
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 11:52
  • LeSpank #71 5 years ago

    Yes you can do online doubles co-op

    I am most definitely picking this up tomorrow on the basis of how good the demo is/was. I agree with the review score.

    The only problem with it in my eyes is the fact that you can take your customised character in to the ranked matches. This is frankly stupid on sumos part as the customised characters will undoubtedly be more powerful than the default ones if it's anything like VT2. This will mean that the online matches will be less about skill and more about out-powering your opponent with a stupidly strong character. It will probably mean the only way to be competitive is to join in with this if-you-cant-beat-em-join-em philosophy and ignore the wonderfully balanced players from the arcade game.

    I hope I am proven wrong though.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 12:28
  • krudster #72 5 years ago

    I thought I had one of those over powered custom characters and promptly got kicked into touch by anyone playing as the best pros, so don't worry too much about that. Most of my stats of my custom champion were above level 30 and it still didn't make a big impression.

    /cries.
  • TONYgr #73 5 years ago

    i am gonna buy it!BUT I REALLY THINK THAT TOP SPIN 1 IS STILL BETTER IN DOUBLES MULTIPLAYER!first of all in VT3 you cannot return the ball out of limits if you have position yourself right!in TOP SPIN 1 if you press the b,x or y buttons a little longer its out of bounds!NOT THE A BUTTON WHICH IS SOMETHING LIKE A SAFE RETURN BUTTON!secondly there are the RISK SHOTS in TOP SPIN 1.i always thought that vt in general were boring if all four players were equally good!the thing is that we could play for minutes for one set!top spin 1 have someting called risk shots!i will not explain what risks shots are but they are cool and really help gameplay.risks shots give you an edge IF YOU MASTER THEM!it makes top spin more unpredictable!and challenging!BASICALLY TOP SPIN IS PRO EVO AND VT IS FIFA!anyway thats only my opinion!IAM GONNA BUY IT BECAUSE IS A GOOD GAME AND BECAUSE IT HAS ONLINE!
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 13:50
  • Turrican #74 5 years ago

    Hold on - I need some clarification please on that co-op statement:

    Is it possible for 4 people with 4 Xbox 360s to play a doubles game from 4 different internet connections on Xbox Live?

    Previous games like TopSpin 2 only allowed 2 people on the same Xbox to play against 2 people on another xbox. This is a small difference but absolutely crucial for people like me who have a group of 4 mates around the country on Xbox Live!
  • Inflatable #75 5 years ago

    kristan obviously doesn't play tennis IRL.. Otherwise he wouldn't call this the best tennisgame arround.. It's not, it's way to arcady for that.. Topspin2 isn't perfect and may not look as good, but in terms of playing like real tennis it's the better game imho..

    I'll wait for Topspin3, VT3 is not my kind of thing..
  • krudster #76 5 years ago

    I'm not remotely interested whether this feels like proper tennis, it's just a fantastic game, and that's all that matters.
  • Turrican #77 5 years ago

    ...and its a fantastic game that 4 live accounts can play simultaneously????

    A year I've been waiting for the answer to this question. Darn it.
  • konniehuqfan #78 5 years ago

    Maria Sharapova is so fine
    Edited by 1 at 23/03/07 @ 14:15
  • Eighthours #79 5 years ago

    Hold on - I need some clarification please on that co-op statement:

    Is it possible for 4 people with 4 Xbox 360s to play a doubles game from 4 different internet connections on Xbox Live?


    Yes, for the first time it's proper 4 player online doubles.
  • McGeeza #80 5 years ago

    The game is VT with solid online play (around 30 matches with not a hint of lag so far), thus making it one of the best games ever. I've also only had one person quit before the match had ended so far and hopefully this will continue.

    I've received and sent messages saying 'good game' and 'epic match' etc, which doesn't usually happen on Live (which as you all know, usually contains hateful 12 year old racist idiots - I haven't been playing with the headset though so don't know if i've been getting any verbal abuse...).

    I think it's a shame to read paople saying you can't do lobs or slices, or that the players dive all over the place. I would encourage people to persevere with the game... it will click after a bit of practice and then you won't be missing out on a classic...
  • Batman2100 #81 5 years ago

    Played this all night yesterday at my mates house, including an hour and a half long singles match with his girlfriend (which i lost 13-10 on the final tie break), and have become completely addicted, I went to Tesco and bought it on the way home at two in the morning. I love the music, am i really the only one?
  • Jheronimus #82 4 years ago

    Picked it up for EUR 30 a couple of days ago. Great fun! The GF loves it and has been hugging the 360 since the game entered our house. And considering that I'm trying to complete Mass Effect at the moment, that isn't a totally good thing ;)