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Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09 All-Play Review

Wii Review by Dan Whitehead

16 September, 2008

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Despite the perfectly snug fit between golf and the Wii, last year's Tiger Woods offering felt like a lazy PS2 port with some token motion control tacked on. The good news is that for the '09 edition, EA has made an appreciable effort to give the Wii a distinct Tiger to call its own. The excellent news is that they've also included most of the new features from the 360 and PS3 versions. The slightly disappointing news is that the motion control, while vastly improved from last year, remains likely to frustrate as many as it pleases.

This is partly because until the MotionPlus add-on arrives, the remote still isn't quite up to the job of truly replicating your swing on-screen. It does a good job of creating the illusion of true 1-to-1 motion capture, with your golfer's virtual arms moving in sync with your own, but the power still seems to be gauged more by the height and fluidity of the upswing than whatever effort you exert in real life. This makes gauging the power of short game strokes something of a dark art - and one the game seems reluctant to help you learn.

Putting is the other problem area. Some people love the new system. Some have come to accept its somewhat quirky nature. Plenty, however, have found it so counter-intuitive that they've dismissed it as broken. It's not broken, exactly, but nor is it particularly well implemented. Unlike the feedback-free drives, putts rely on a twitchy power bar and figuring out the relationship between the level of the gauge and the length of your shot can be a long and irritating process. I even found more success by landing deliberately off the green, and then chipping the ball into the hole from the border rather than racking up shots with the putter.

It doesn't help that the holes sometimes seem to be protected by force fields, with perfectly good shots breaking around the rim all too often or stopping short. This rather clumsy system makes it too easy to turn an easy Birdie into a Bogey, or worse. Of course, putting is the bane of many golfer's lives, so the flipside to these grumbles is that this version of the game is the one most likely to feel "right" to real golfers. Once you've worked out the relationship between your movements and the action, stick it on the harder difficulty settings and success depends much more on your ability to read the green, or control the club, than the other console versions.

'Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09 All-Play' Screenshot 1

Draw and fade can be added to the shot by dragging the target, or by twisting the remote as you swing.

All of which sounds quite daunting for a game on the populist Wii, and that's where the All-Play concept comes in. Designed to allow everyone to join in, regardless of skill or coordination, playing with All-Play activated shows you exactly where every shot will land - all you need to do is swing your arms. It's laughably simple really, and makes it all but impossible to screw shots up.

It's not really clear what the purpose is though. You're not learning anything by playing in this mode, and you won't get any better at the game. Those playing normally certainly won't want to play against someone using All-Play, since it effectively means you're playing against a foolproof golfing robot. It gives the game an unbalanced feel, and it's a feeling that it never quite shakes. It's either pointlessly easy or frustratingly tricky, and there's not much room for the averagely skilled player to find their niche. Even if the game simply allowed you calibrate the top of your swing when you create your golfer, physically determining the parameters of your game, the ability to consistently hit medium strength shots would be more attainable. As it is, you may find yourself changing clubs to reduce the maximum distance rather than trusting your own arms, which is an odd way to play.

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KingOfSpain
17/09/08 @ 07:04
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"The slightly disappointing news is that the motion control, while vastly improved from last year, " where's the rest to the sentence? I want to know the slightly disappointing news :-)
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17/09/08 @ 07:10
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"The slightly disappointing news is that the motion control, while vastly improved from last year, "

While what? The suspense is killing me!
Normski
17/09/08 @ 07:10
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"...has a one in fifty chance of turning you into a duck"
wewillselfdestruct
17/09/08 @ 07:11
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Either EA or Nintendo must be censoring Eurogamer now. Which is it? We demand to know!
Bealsy
17/09/08 @ 07:15
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"While vastly improved from last year, could at any point turn into a bear and eat your face off."
Bertie [staff]
17/09/08 @ 07:26
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It's one of those 'finish your own' sentences.
Der_tolle_Emil
17/09/08 @ 07:30
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Sounds good. Since We Love Golf wasn't what I was hoping for and Mario Golf is still not confirmed I think this will come in handy.
Whitewalker
17/09/08 @ 07:38
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Lets hope that TG 2010 will be just that, "phenomenal".
BartonFink
17/09/08 @ 07:44
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So the motion control is a bit dodgy ... now there is a surprise.
AhSoul
17/09/08 @ 07:59
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"the ability to consistently hit medium strength shots would be more attainable. As it is, you may find yourself changing clubs to reduce the maximum distance rather than trusting your own arms, which is an odd way to play."

Erm isn't that how you play golf? You change clubs and keep your swing consistent rather than using one club all the time and trying to do 20% power or whatever.......
don81
17/09/08 @ 08:09
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Play is good, putting is sh*t!!
Xerx3s
17/09/08 @ 08:11
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"The courses are recreated reasonably well, but they're empty, soulless places on the Wii."

So a bit like casuals then?

/coat
Spooke
17/09/08 @ 08:30
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I think that was a very grumpy reviewer there. Like any sports game, if you have to invest time in getting it right then it's done it's job. Sure there are some problems but nothing on the scale of how this reviewer made it seem. if EA had made the graphics bright and cheery then it wouldn't have reflected the look of the series.

9/10 is a far more reasonable score.
J.C
17/09/08 @ 09:19
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The wii is shit, and yes i own one.
legendmir
17/09/08 @ 09:25
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weird review, really didnt read like an 8. the first page was - its shit, shit shit shit. the second - it doesnt have this and this and this. last sentence, its very very good. 8. ...what?
Tonka
17/09/08 @ 09:42
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I'll wait for the next one then.
glo
17/09/08 @ 09:47
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8/10 is a good score but the review sounds overly harsh in my opinion. Perhaps the reviewer needs to play the game a bit more as I have not found any serious problems with either the putting or golf swing. It is not perfect but is far better than I was expecting and quite impressive considering the limited 1:1 accuracy of the wiimote.

I am really enjoying the game and the thought of going back to flicking a tiny joystick to simulate the golf swing seems strange and laughable now.
grussbarbar
17/09/08 @ 09:48
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I'm having a lot of fun with this game actually. The controls somehow still don't feel as intuitive as in Wii Sports golf, but the rest of the package (mostly having all the different golf courses and shot types) more than makes up for it.
And the putting, well, it just takes some getting used to. I managed to sink a 32m putt this weekend. ^_^

It might not be the greatest golf simulator, but it sure is a good game. =)
rossag
17/09/08 @ 09:58
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Poor Wii.

I personally can't wait for MotionPlus to be released. Hopefully then the Wii will be getting 9's and 10's on a lot more 3rd party games.

I would give this game a 9.
Quint2020
17/09/08 @ 10:20
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That is one fugly game.
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17/09/08 @ 10:38
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Will this game take advantage of the motion plus thingo then?
secombe
17/09/08 @ 11:30
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Seem to get a lot of reviews like this for Wii games.

With the PS360 you have a fairly standard control set that dates back a couple of decades, with the Wii I've found games have got better and better the longer I've played them and got used to the controls...which for a sim-sport game like this is job done in my opinion. Putting should be difficult, surely that's the point?!
GhenghisNaan
17/09/08 @ 11:40
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*in best Awesom-O voice*

Lame.
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knightmt
17/09/08 @ 11:47
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Personally I think that they have sacrificed response for accessibility, looks great, sounds great, putting has tried to iron out the the bumpyness(no pun intended). I really dislike how they have made the normal swing the easy swing and so forth, I find it highly entertaining to watch others slice and hook shots in 08 and am surprised by the sensitivity(it is quite relevant).
I cannot wait for the motion plus, where the programming will actually increase the game play and not limit it.
I am sure that this title will draw a lot of new users though.
BobsUncle
17/09/08 @ 11:53
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I have this, it's a good game crippled by the shit control system.
jonsaan
17/09/08 @ 14:01
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OOoh. I can't wait for motion plus either. Yet another costly bit to plug into my wiimote and lose down the back of the sofa. If we're really lucky it'll need it's own batteries too. Can't wait.
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smelly
17/09/08 @ 15:47
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WOW!! More proof that the wii is shit.. and has NO decent games!

Erm.. um.. shit.. 8/10.. bollocks...
grussbarbar
17/09/08 @ 15:51
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Agree@secombe
there are almost no games on Wii where I find the controls to be bad, and they're almost always better than you would think reading reviews. Take the Resident Evil 4 Wii edition and Tomb Raider: Anniversary reviews here on Eurogamer for example. Especially the controls in Tomb Raider are very, very good, once you get used to them.

As for the controls in this Tiger Woods game: I can pretty accurately apply 50-100 percent of swing power after about 2 hours of play. Putting isn't really a problem anymore either, except when the green is (relatively) steeply sloped, but that's not really strange, I think. The controls aren't as intuďtive or good as in Wii Sports golf, but they certainly aren't bad.
Oh, and I haven't encountered any "force fields" at all.
smelly
17/09/08 @ 18:28
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I personally HATED the RE4 controls on the wii.. must be a marmite thing.


As for the controls on this.. yeah.. the reviewers do now seem to be going down root of "well motionplus will be out soon, so therefor we cant score this high because motionplus would make it better"

or something..

if its anything like the last tiger woods game.. the controls in that were perfect!
Barkotron
25/09/08 @ 15:36
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""the ability to consistently hit medium strength shots would be more attainable. As it is, you may find yourself changing clubs to reduce the maximum distance rather than trusting your own arms, which is an odd way to play."

Erm isn't that how you play golf? You change clubs and keep your swing consistent rather than using one club all the time and trying to do 20% power or whatever......."

Exactly what I thought when reading it. It's kind of, you know, one of the major reasons for having different clubs at all.

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