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Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 Review

PlayStation 2 Review by Christian Donlan

19 March, 2009

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If you're familiar with Persona, all you need to know about the latest instalment is a brief checklist of changes and improvements: direct control over team-mates in battle, a range of themed dungeons replacing Tartarus, Persona 3's single tower, and a welcome shift in setting from the city to the countryside.

If you don't know Persona, things are a little more complex: this is Harvest Moon through a glass darkly, or Animal Crossing with sex crimes - a foppish blend of dungeon-crawling RPG and convoluted social sim, dressed up in David Bowie's mid-seventies wardrobe and set to the tune of some radiantly bizarre pop-jazz hybrids. If that sounds a little too much to take in, don't panic: despite the daunting concept, now is just about the perfect time to hop on this particular school bus, as Persona 4 is stylish, clever, and surprisingly approachable.

Newcomers will find plenty of wilful surprises, not least the game's opening two hours, which give you little to do but plod through reams of text as the story shuttles you from one cut-scene to another, occasionally flinging in thirty seconds of anime, while painstakingly piecing together a large cast and simple mystery one atom at a time. Your only duties during this period, besides pressing the circle button to inch events forward by a single sentence, lie with occasionally trying out an attack move, or, when directly questioned, selecting one of three interchangeable platitudes as a response, most of which have no effect on how things unfold.

But such handholding isn't purely introducing you to Persona 4's mechanisms - despite its hardcore credentials, they're largely traditional and admirably clear-headed. What it's actually doing is syncing you with the game's internal rhythms, bringing you in close so you can hear its pulse.

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The brilliance of the pacing is that you can log in just to play through a few in-game weeks, returning to it for the same reasons you head back to weed your Animal Crossing village.

And even after the early grip eases, Persona remains an RPG at its most politely autocratic - a world in which you follow the designers' quietly-stated demands and fit your life around their unwavering schedule, deepening friendships, taking after-school jobs and joining social clubs when instructed to, in order to level up enough to beat regular challenges. If modern RPGs tend to foreground choice, Persona 4 is about obedience: it's steering and you're pedalling - but if that sounds like a fairly raw deal, it simply highlights why the appeal of a game can never be reduced to the design of its machinery.

The story's simple but suggestive. You've moved from the city to the rural community of Inaba to live with your uncle for a year. Uncle Dojima's both a stressed-out family man and a cop of the hardboiled quips and loosened-tie variety, and as the game kicks off, he's knee-deep in the mysteries of a local murder. As the plot deepens and the bodies start to pile up, things take a supernatural turn as school friends alert you to the existence of the Midnight Channel - a secret world lurking on the other side of television screens, which seems to offer a glimpse of the murderer's next target - as well as an opportunity to save them, by stepping inside and exploring labyrinthine dungeons, each themed to that particular victim's internal struggles.

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monkeylite
19/03/09 @ 11:36
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Lovely game.
OnlyMe
19/03/09 @ 11:37
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I've never played a Persona game ever. Digital Devil Saga, yes, tried it once for a couple of hours. But not Persona.
xagarath
19/03/09 @ 11:40
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Only an 8? Little low, given some recent scores.
Widge
19/03/09 @ 11:42
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yes, immediately change your score to match all others regardless of your own opinion
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19/03/09 @ 11:43
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Have this on the pile. I'm afraid it will stay there for a while. Damn all these games.
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19/03/09 @ 11:47
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Available for £15.63 at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Square-Enix-Pers...
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19/03/09 @ 11:47
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Probably the last great PS2 game?
Ninja_Tino
19/03/09 @ 11:51
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An 8? That surprises me. I'm 20 hours in and I'd definitely give it a 9 at the moment.
JohnnyWashnGo
19/03/09 @ 11:51
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Also have this on the pile, on top of Persona 3 FES :)

I _will_ play them someday, just not right now. Resi 5 is taking up too much of my time at the moment.
neonemesis
19/03/09 @ 11:52
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Have this on the pile. I'm afraid it will stay there for a while. Damn all these games.

I know what you mean! My pile is getting dangerously high...
ChadSexington
19/03/09 @ 11:57
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Eurogamer's reviews are getting shitter and shitter - Persona 4 worse than Fable II? I think not.
neonxaos
19/03/09 @ 11:58
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I suspect I will enjoy it somewhat more than the reviewer, but it's nice to see a different perspective. Persona 3 was just so charming that I never wanted to let it go, and this looks even better to me.
R.P_McMurphy
19/03/09 @ 12:01
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Ordered this off Amazon, been wanting to play for a looooong time.
Chrono-Kun
19/03/09 @ 12:03
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I was hoping a 10/10 would suffice since... Persona 3 got a 9. =/ Damn Eurogamer for getting sucked into the hype and rate overrated games like Fable II

Persona 4 >>>>>>>>>>>> Fable II

penhalion
19/03/09 @ 12:06
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I am totally enjoying this game. They definitely have to bring this to PS3 and 360. That would make the graphics 100% anime and be the final icing as it were.

The story is played out as I am always waffling on that they should be. You basically get to be the star of a great adventure. Nothing that happens ever takes you out of that feeling and you grow to genuinely care for the cast you are trying to defend. If you like the persona games you will like this.
Cappy
19/03/09 @ 12:08
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The review is incorrect by the way.

Responses in conversation with other characters actually are significant. It isn't hard to check these things out. I didn't bother reading the review beyond that point, are Eurogamer paying by the word nowadays?
Shane86
19/03/09 @ 12:12
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This is the best RPG I've played since final fantasy 10, and there's no grinding necessary if you're good enough.

I think it deserves a 10 but that's my opinion, if an RPG like fable 2 can get a 10 then this should be an 11.
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Cloud-Strife
19/03/09 @ 12:13
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Good score, was hoping for a nine though...Should be getting it today...
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19/03/09 @ 12:22
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Don't see why the score has to be higher for Persona 4, agree with some of the observations in the review. Found I couldn't get on with Persona 3 FES which I bought on the back of the gushing praise on the forum, so each to their own.
GamesProgrammer
19/03/09 @ 12:23
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Do all the Persona games work ok on the 60gig PS3, im quite interested in getting these .
toythatkills
19/03/09 @ 12:24
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Eight is a fair score. I've finished the game, I love the Persona series, and eight is fair.

I wouldn't give the review an eight though. Lord does it drag on. It's obscenely wordy. I'm sure it's so you can sell more advertising, but still. Saying in three paragraphs what it could and should say in one. Using a register that appears to be more about showing off the writer's vocabulary than analysing the game. Irrelevent references and comparisons throughout. Factual errors. Paragraph upon paragraph of explanation of the games systems without telling us whether or not they're good. Three pages long and the criticisms fit into a few lines at the end?

Is this really written for Eurogamer's target audience? I'm thinking not.
lempriere
19/03/09 @ 12:27
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Really well written review! Fantastic game, btw.
Chtulie
19/03/09 @ 12:30
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A few note on it's PAL presentation:

The style choices in the game a re a little diffirent from P3; the real world is a more realistic looking making for a bigger contrast with the unreal world.
With a big tradeoffthat whenever something moves in anything but the smalles enviroments they OH MY GOD THE BLURRING! Whenever something moves onscreen, or everything if it's the camera, excapt in the small enviroments, there is absolutely massive blurring of the moving object.
El-Dev
19/03/09 @ 12:32
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PS2, probably still the best console out there.
legendmir
19/03/09 @ 12:37
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how can you review this game and not mention those god damned instant kill spells which will make you lose hours and hours of grinding? :(
toythatkills
19/03/09 @ 12:39
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If you don't carry Homunculus it's your own fault!
ZuluHero
19/03/09 @ 12:40
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is it too late to get in on this series now - do you need to play all games in order or do they work stand-a-lone?

The latest EG review has tickled my interest (as well as a few diehard EGers) but would it all be a little too impenetrable at this late stage in the game?
Schiraman
19/03/09 @ 12:43
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I'd be tempted to get this, but I still haven't finished Persona 3... great game, but it does drag on towards the end.
Chtulie
19/03/09 @ 12:43
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So far, the only Euro Shin Megami Tensei game released that is not standalone is Digital Devil Saga 2. The rest: Devil Summoner, Persona 3 & 4 and Lucifer's Call are all standalone.
ZuluHero
19/03/09 @ 12:48
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Thanks Chtulie,

So which is best 3 or 4? :)
Colin8703
19/03/09 @ 12:51
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Anyone know if the PAL version has a 60hz option?
legendmir
19/03/09 @ 13:00
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@toy that kills

unless im mistaken there arnt hormunculus in this game? PLEASE TELL ME HOW I GET THEM!!!!
toythatkills
19/03/09 @ 13:06
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Get Homunculus in gold chests, or from the shopping channel (may be the sticker prize, I can't remember, I'm sure there's a week you can buy them though)
CaoSlayer
19/03/09 @ 13:07
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"Probably the last great PS2 game?"

I have heard great things of Devil Summoner 2, although I don't hold my breath since the first one was not that great.


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I think that the game deserves a +1 for being budget priced and including the soundtrack.
stevetuck
19/03/09 @ 13:13
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10 YEAR LI....ah sod it :(
nick_f
19/03/09 @ 13:19
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Another request for BC info - has anyone tried this using the PS2 software emulation on a 60GB PAL PS3?
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HiddenAway
19/03/09 @ 13:19
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You lot haven't seen the 6 it got from Play :p
CordableTuna
19/03/09 @ 13:30
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I really tried to like Persona 3, but I finally succumbed to boredom at around the 20 hour mark, after realizing I had played for an hour without making a single meaninful decision or fighting a single interesting battle. Persona 3 had a strong start, but after a while you end up in a situation where you're slowly making your way through a maze where everything looks the same, fighting monsters that pose no threat to you. Then you go to school, where the object is to add points to your skills by listening to conversations you've heard before. And watching the loading screen every 15 seconds or so.

The game would be perfectly fine if it was trimmed a bit. I think Persona series seriously needs a Director's Cut.
lennon
19/03/09 @ 13:30
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Plays fine on my 60gb ps3
Ninja_Tino
19/03/09 @ 13:31
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It does work on thr 60gig ps3 but it doesn't display in the lower left box where you are or what you're going to click on. Not a big deal, just an annoyance. Also, some saves can get corrupted so use multiple files. Although, corrupted saves can suddenly work when you retry them, but still, better safe than sorry.

And yes, I have seen the play review. It is one of the worst reviews I've ever read, and that includes player reviews.
mingster
19/03/09 @ 13:38
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Its a good game its definately better than persona 3...
But it does suffer from being a bit too drawn out.
It could do with being trimmed slightly so there's less periods of nothing to do.
Chtulie
19/03/09 @ 13:40
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@ Zuluhero.

Dunno. I only played a bit of P4 when my copy arrived so I to make sure the disc was ok. P3 I haven't finished.

It's Atlus, small print runs, high used game prices. So I think a brand spnking new copy of P4 will be the cheapest.

(something to keep in mind: all these late gen ps2 releases are very cheap anyway. I haven't seen a new ps2 game over 35 euros since the beginning of fall last year)
Demiath
19/03/09 @ 14:08
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One of the more well-written reviews of P4 so far, and the score seems just about right. I love all the small improvements over Persona 3 - which I felt was flawed and overrated - but like its predecessor, the slow pace and sheer length of the game can cause boredom and frustration (P3 took me 90 hours to finish and so far I'm roughly halfway through P4 at about 50 hours in total).
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19/03/09 @ 14:16
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I got this a couple of days or so ago its pretty good so far about 9hours or so in just starting the to unlock the hot springs area
its kinda slow at times but its more slow paced than i thought it would be
FenderMaster
19/03/09 @ 14:36
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Didn't really like Persona 3 (I must be the only one) and have yet to finish it.... I just got so sick of dull Tartarus level grinding...

Not sure if I'll give this a shot...
Krelle
19/03/09 @ 15:18
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Would like to play this some day when Ive grown old and have alot of spare time.
2055 cant come soon enough.
Dillinger
19/03/09 @ 15:49
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a warning to those impatient:

the review says 2 hours of button clicking.. i found it to be about 3 and a half hours before i actually got the 'ability' to open the in-game menu's. (y'know, like equipment/options/quit to main menu and all that)

until that point, it didnt really feel like a -game-, more like an overlong intro. like watching an anime where the dialog has pauses inbetween and its all done from one camera view.
i think there was... 3? fights in that 3 and a half hours of 'button pressing'

other than that, im enjoying the originality of it. its certainly different. and I -think- the game has started proper now, so looking forward to the randomised dungeons..
Setaro
19/03/09 @ 15:57
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Someone tell the reviewer to set the dialog to auto-continue in the options menu, then you don't need to press a button to get people to speak the next line.
Scimarad
19/03/09 @ 16:21
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I loved Persona 3 and this is probably as good (some would say better) but I found it a little to similar to hold my interest. Most of my time in P3 was spent fusing personas and, for some reason, I got bored of that pretty quickly in P4.
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"Someone tell the reviewer to set the dialog to auto-continue in the options menu, then you don't need to press a button to get people to speak the next line."

Problem is they dont talk fast enough.. ;c

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