Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines Review

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I haven't seen the sun for an eternity.

Okay, a week, but all human eternities are subjective. And I caught a glimpse of it on Thursday when I took a break to go play the ever-popular Be Nice To The Girlfriend To Avoid Her Dumping Me game. But otherwise, the sun has been steadfastly avoided, as every day I played Troika's latest until gone five in the morning, entered a torpor until the early afternoon, only to raise and find - thanks to the encroaching British Winter - the Sun has already disappeared. It's bad. I've taken to injecting vitamin D to prevent my organs prolapsing out of my body in greasy coils in protest.

There was one glorious moment when my flatmate, sharing my Vampiric gaming lifestyle, left the house at sundown for a walk. A memorable journey. Rain was a polluted baptism on our pallid faces. I felt dirty, debased and distant from the milling hordes as any point since the height of teenage alienation, sharing jokes with my friend who'd lived in a world these sheep could never grasp. They may have well been a different species. In other words, Vampire had done what only my very favourite games manage - to get beneath my skin, slide under the membranes of the brain and remix reality for a while. In the same way Thief had me dancing around the streetlights, Vampire had me revelling in my damned difference. That's some trick.

Taken out of context, you'll probably take that as a recommendation. And, I suppose, it is.

There are reservations. The devil's in the details.

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With a game like Vampire, it's probably best to avoid the "Is it an RPG?/Is it an Action game?" argument. Instead, let's put it in the category of the "Immersive Sim" - a little bit of Ion Storm-created jargon that's as good a label as any. File this alongside games like the Deus Exs and System Shocks which mix, to varying degrees, the genres to create something that's really neither one nor the other. Judged by either of their standards, it falls a little short. For those expecting something matching Half-Life 2 because of its Valve-created Source Engine base, Vampire's combat will appear underdeveloped and lumpen. For those used to Troika's previous games like Arcanum or - in the terms of origins - Fallout, will be disappointed in the relatively limited scale. But the magic is how these things combine to do something that neither could do alone, and artificially dividing them loses the magic.

In terms of structure, the game places you as a newly embraced Vampire on the streets of Santa Monica. This is the first of the four hub levels which provide the backbone of the game, much like those you'd find in Knights of the Old Republic or (probably a better comparison) Invisible War. That is, the hubs are living environments full of people who'll respond to your actions or offences. Since the invoking of Invisible War is sure to raise a few hackles, an obvious aside: if you're one of the many who found Invisible War a letdown, Bloodlines is very much what you were hoping for. From its PC-centric design to the grand array of statistics to improve, it'll make you very happy indeed. Equally, with the modern day environment, the simplest way to describe Vampire, especially in the first twenty or so hours of play, is Deus Ex With Vampires.

Simplest, but not the real story. The Devil and The Details, remember.

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Its most noticeable Deus-Exism is a shared belief in allowing multiple solutions to problems, based on your characters' abilities and your chosen approach. While not quite as variable, you'll find it possible to wander between the two poles of current action gaming - that is action and stealth - as well as a selection of others. Hacking (through a cute typing interface) and lockpicking are obvious, but Vampire stresses direct communication more than most games, up to the point of having separate skills for persuasion, intimidation, seduction and haggle. With a high rating in each, conversation options open up for the player to use. For example, I found myself gleefully playing a femme fatale for the majority of the game, which was immensely rewarding. Personalising any game in ways like this is powerful - when presented with a building full of enemies and a boss to assassinate, some will find kicking down the door and offing everyone amusing, others will prefer playing the ninja, and yet more will opt for talking past the doorman and then flirting with the leader enough to send away their guards. Also, like Planescape Torment, conversation options will alter depending upon your statistics and even your clan. For example, if you play the insane Malkavians all your character's options are altered to enigmatic pseudo-prophetic schizo-tongued gibberish (As a hypothetical example, while a more sober clan may say "I'm looking for a firearm," a Malkavian would mumble out "Cordite sticks and iron-fire I seek for the bang-bangs." Er... except competently written, y'know.)

Which brings us neatly to the Clans. That is, for those who require a trad-fantasy reference, character classes. Seven of these vampire Bloodlines are available, each with their own selection of supernatural skills, attitudes and details. Earlier I referenced that violence and stealth are options. Well, there's violence and there's violence. The question is, what manner of violence are you looking for? Whether you specialise in firearms (relatively weedy until skills are increased) or close-combat (generally the better idea), is only the base of it. On a fundamental level, playing a Brujah capable of physically boosting himself manifold into a super-fast super-strong killing machine differs hugely from playing a blood-mage of the Tremere, who utilise sorcery capable of doing antisocial things like making opponent's blood boil.

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Even better, Vampire makes playing a Clan far more than just a different selection of supernatural powers. Every clan has a reputation, garnering specific reactions from certain NPCs depending on their prejudices. The most extreme example of this is the Nosferatu, stealth-specialists with physically monstrous forms who spend most of their time running around the sewers beneath the city to avoid prompting screaming locals and police-hunts. Bloodlines does its very best to immerse you in a unique social universe.

It crosses over to the game mechanics too. Most central is blood, which basically acts like mana in a fantasy game. With a major difference: the average D&D mage doesn't have to suck all the life out of a passing kobold to power up again. Where to get blood is a constant dilemma, which different characters find solutions for. Sure, you can subsist off rats, but it's a little undignified. Regular trips to the bloodbank prove expensive. For a better feed, you'll be wanting humans. Problem is, people tend to object to monsters jumping them in the middle of the street and do terribly impolite things like calling the police. Dark alleyways or - even better - seducing some poor unfortunate are better solutions, and if someone's stupid enough to try and fight you... well, you might as well have a nibble. They were asking for it.

There's another couple of good reasons to worry about feeding. Firstly, if you lap at the jugular too long, you could kill them. Do this to an innocent, and you'll lose humanity points. Lose a lot, and you'll start having your conversation options become more bestial, like a quota-missing telephone salesperson. Lose them all and you'll fall into a beast state, and lose the game. Also, the lower your humanity, the more likely you'll enter a frenzy when your blood levels dip, where you lose all control and go on a killing spree. The second reason is a little thing called the Masquerade, the set of Vampire laws created to avoid humans tooling up with napalm and going looking for trouble. That is "Don't let them know we exist". Do anything that breaks the code - for example, using your more dramatic powers in public - and you'll lose Masquerade points. Lose them all and... well, cue vampire hunters and an inevitable game-over.

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While it's the game mechanics which create the meat of this vampiric world, for what counts as its soul - and it's a dark soul indeed - you've got to look elsewhere. Specifically at the prime pillar of the role-playing game: the narrative.

Bloodlines has the best script I've seen in a videogame since... well, since ever. In recent times, Planescape is probably hits the same peaks that Bloodlines does, and has the advantage of mass of words, but in terms of writing a modern, adult videogame, no-one's come near. No-one's even tried.

It makes cultural references with the casualness of someone who actually knows what they're talking about - there's a particularly memorable off-hand gag about fetish slang which dazzled me with the skill, audacity and comfort it showed. Where most games that try something similar come across as callow posturing, this was done as if it were the most natural thing in the world. It deals with the big adult topics - sex, death, whatever - in truthful and honest ways. It has characters who swear as much as anyone out of Kingpin - but they're characters who swear rather than an attempt to turn the game into a noir thriller by lobbing a few four-letter words into the mix. Conversely, there are characters who have perfectly civil aspects. Troika has done the writerly thing - that is attempt to write people rather than ciphers. I can only applaud.

Take the most obviously eyebrow-raising character, Jeanette (The goth-schoolgirl whose top strains with obvious implants). While on the box you may take her as mere wrist-fodder for the strained-testicle-possessing members of the audience, she's not treated as such. When she speaks, she's a babble of egocentric nonsense - predictable, as she's a Malkavian. However, it's carefully judged egocentric nonsense. She's essentially a goth LiveJournal with legs, and, in her extreme way, credible. Even the fact she has a ludicrous cleavage ties in tightly to the plot. Rather than many games where every woman thrusts D-cups and upwards in your direction, Vampire chooses. In Santa Monica at least, no-one has a cleavage like Jeanette. Why is she like that? To Troika's eternal credit, it provides a reason. And if you ever wander into something that plays to what's cheerfully described as "fan-service", it's because you've gone out hunting after it yourself.

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It's also got another trump card. While the Source facial animation technology adds quality to Half-Life 2, it's given a far more strenuous and more seriously emotive workout here. Characters act and cavort directly at you with an impressive simulacra of life, including specific body language. I'm one of the people who turn on the subtitles and skip most voice acting, but was happily mesmerised by these digital actors and their lives throughout. The presentation amplifies Bloodline's positive traits: this is technology in service of greater emotional impact, and as laudable thing as I can imagine.

So, an amazing, memorable, groundbreaking game. Well worth the 7/10 that it's received.

Devils. Details.

The Details are more general flaws. Minor elements prove mostly forgivable - there's a lot of loading between sub-areas, for example. The combat, as noted above, isn't that great - but that didn't stop Deus Ex being one of the greatest games ever, so also forgivable. What's more frustrating is that the further you progress into the game, the more you wander from what made the opening so intoxicating. Missions take you off the hub areas, into increasingly long trips into mostly linear dungeons.

Its decline is a slow one - things are going awry by the point of the Hollywood sewers - and you find yourself playing on, desperation growing as you hope it rallies. Sadly, by the final sections of the game, you find yourself fighting respawning katana-wielding mobs, boss-fights with enormous energy bars and simple Tomb Raider-style puzzles. If you spent the majority of your experience on making a talking character, for example, you'd be disappointed to find the last six or so hours lacking a chance to slut your way to victory. No significant multi-routing remains either.

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This also derails the plot. While still as well written as always, the reduction to a simple action game climaxing in a short cut-scene with a few interactive options leaves anyone following it for the narrative feeling cheated. The ending is set up expertly, but the pay-off simply a kick in the guts after a final run in the game that's like having your canines pulled.

These Details take Bloodlines down to a solid 8. The concluding run doesn't take away the greatness of the majority of the game, just makes it one to be filed next to the Xen levels of Half-Life in the "What were they thinking?" stakes. In fact, in some ways it's a shame even to mention it - knowing that there's relatively little payoff for some of the earlier material reduces the joy of that initial flush.

Now, the Devils.

Easy to sum up: Game isn't finished.

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At the opening, you forgive the array of bugs and glitches as it being "rough around the edges", so joining the long line of games which stressed imagination above mere competence and polish: Sure, characters glide out of the room in the intro sequence... who cares? Look how amazing Santa Monica is...

Problem is, as you progress, they escalate. By the time you've reached the climax, they're become impossible to ignore and made all the worse by you not even particularly enjoying the game anymore. Having animation flickers and textures going wrong is a different thing from - say - reloading and finding that simple action has broken some of the level's scripting or getting caught in a game-ending crash bug upon exiting a mandatory mission. It runs considerably worse than Half-Life, sharing the stutter-frame-rate problem of its mother engine, but generally worse. It eats up Virtual Memory like anything, with long sessions leading to increasingly lengthy load times and slower frame-rates (I'm not a programmer, but "Memory Leak" sounds like a likely explanation). It just crashes. Even surface level shows signs of being rushed to release amass, like the dialogue in Chinatown having so many typos that even I, with my rudimentary grasp of the English tongue, wince.

While a determined player - especially a PC RPG player - will forgive much of this, and my selection of bugs are fairly extreme examples of what's going wrong, it's really not on. Suffice to say, those stories about it being done ages ago and being stuck on a shelf until Half-Life 2 was finished are evidently a lie. Someone decided to throw this into the shops and then patch later.

I don't know about hunting Vampires, but someone should start hunting accountants.

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7 / 10

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Comments (54) Latest comment 7 years ago

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  • Tiger_Walts #1 7 years ago

    Sad to hear the bugs are more evident later on. The intro worried me a lot but Santa Monica looks to be bug free.

    I'm playing as a Malkavian, bloody good fun it is too. I'm damn sure the TV is talking to me!
  • Shivoa #2 7 years ago

    Got to say I agree with the first 50% of the review and would end on a 9/10. Personally I haven't had any crash bugs and, with a machine that can beat HL2 into submission, the framerates are far from great but can handle it fine considering the genre is more RPG than twitch FPS. Things like the floating characters the the begining are obviously scrpting shorcuts but as you can't even see their lower bodies you can see why the guys thought they could get away with it.

    I'm obviously one of the determined player and I also haven't got to the ending few hours yet (although have had a taste of a few of the long dungeons which show why you need to have stat building from combat in any RPG that has long stints of enforced fighting as otherwise it is just a pointless time sink in the game) but I'd say 8 would be a better representation.
  • Roamer #3 7 years ago

    Ach, Activision should be boiled in a sea of its own blood for releasing bug-riddled games.
  • templar-wizard #4 7 years ago

    if the game was tightened up a bit more, its a 9, could even hit ten if the combat was more involving and the textures were upped to HL2 levels.

    a game that the fan community needs to support.
  • Bezzy #5 7 years ago

    I think I'll be picking this up, just for the writing. Pretty weird reason for me to do this - I'm normally obsessed with game mechanics. See, it has taken me a long time to realize that 90% of designers just don't know how to get game mechanics right (or if they do, they're in a position where their decisions are undermined), so I'm no longer surprised with various rookie errors (not in this game, necessarily - just in general). It has become wasteful to give a crap about other people's mistakes.

    Now it's time I get educated, critical and cynical about narratives and whatnot. Yay! I already have a few preconceptions about how narratives are best used to highlight and accentuate game play in a symbiotic relationship (blah blah, intentionally vague), but I'm hoping that those assumptions can be blown out of the water and replaced/improved by something better, looking at this game.
  • bionutz #6 7 years ago

    Hi Eurogamer, could you do a re-visit of this game, after it's properly patched?
  • TennesseeStiff #7 7 years ago

    Man I've been really looking forward to this game. More so than HL2 but it sounds a bit pants now ............ all the other reviews have come to the same conclusion.

    /scratching head
  • Royal Fool #8 7 years ago

    Troika is an awesome developer that sadly usually is forced to give in to publishers and release games before they've been properly polished and fine-tuned (Shades of Fallout, Arcanum and Temple of Elemental Evil).
  • Chris Gardiner #9 7 years ago

    An ambitious, uncompromising game of flawed genius released unfinished and riddled with bugs?

    You know when you've been Troika'd!
  • Dire #10 7 years ago

    Although I really didnt find more problems as I went on as the review suggested, most of the problem I found was in the Santa Monica hub (which apparently has a memory leak) which gives dire framerates.

    The only other problem I encountered was the showstopper in the Society Of Leopold caves where a map refused to load (and only fixed by entering commands into the console, thanks to a fix by a troika programmer) and was only major concern I have about why the game was released in this state. Probably Activision doing more than troika's i'd imagine.

    However underneath is a gem of a game its just a shame it couldnt get a fair few months of tweaking and bug fixes.

    Oh its also a shame about the things that had got cut if you look around the code for the game, character historys et all.

    I would give it a 8/10 and probably a 8.5 if it was released in a decent state. But anyone who buys this thinking it will be like halflife2... well more fool them.

    Still This is the kind of game I would of expected DX:IW to be, well without the vampires and big breasts etc..
    Edited by 2 at 24/11/04 @ 11:24
  • Roamer #11 7 years ago

    If they were a nice bunch, Eurogamer would tell us when a proper patch is available, that way I'd know when it's time to buy the game.
  • Hicksy #12 7 years ago

    /awaits substancial patch before purchase
  • UncleLou #13 7 years ago

    I am in Hollywood, and at the moment, I'd give this a 8/10 so far. I haven't encountered any serious bugs yet, but it sure lacks a lot of polish.

    The game is a strange mixture between some truly excellent and some very mediocre elements:

    10/10 for story, dialogue options, RPG mechanics etc.

    6/10 for boring level design, mediocre combat and the aforementioned lack of polish

    All in all, I am enjoying it a lot though.

    Not sure what to make of this one, it looks like a half arsed Silent hill/Resident Evil ;o)

    It's a true RPG. Nothing to do with SH/RE whatsoever.


  • Dire #14 7 years ago

    no word on when the patch is being released, but troika people have been asking the community on problems they have encountered and asking for save games. Hopefully soon as I wish to replay the game :)
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/04 @ 11:33
  • Tiger_Walts #15 7 years ago

    Lets hope Valve give them info on the sound problems too. Any more than 5 or 6 sound events at once and the framerate dives.
  • Dirtbox #16 7 years ago

    Good to see publishers given a hard time when they rush a game out. Agree 100%
  • praetorian #17 7 years ago

    Great review, best I've read in a while. Objective, informative and no spoilers.

    A shame about all the bugs. It makes no sense, in a way. Why rush a game out just so you can release it on the same day as Half-Life 2 and get buried by that juggernaught?
  • kencleary #18 7 years ago

    Unfair i'd have said. I'm (i think) near the finish and I haven't suffered one serious bug so far. The sound is a bit glitchy but so was the sound in HL2. The only real bugs i've ever seen are where a person seems to float in the air beside a bus stop and i've only seen that happen twice.

    As everyone's mentioned here the story is excellent, some fabulous characters, there's true variety in the characters you can play and real dialogue choices with real consequences. Alright the combat is a bit sh*t, but its better than Morrowind which wasn't penalised for it and is very similar to that in Gothic II.

    I may come across a bit fanboy here but frankly this is consuming more of my time than Half Life 2 at the moment and is really on a par with Deus Ex. 8.5/9 would be my conclusion.
  • deepmenace #19 7 years ago

    so this runs worse than HL2 - quantify please....

    if i run HL in medium for everything at 1024 will this run at Low for everything at 1024?

    also - does the drop in quality throughout lead to anykind of "cant be bothered finishing this" thoughts?
  • Tiger_Walts #20 7 years ago

    The ranged combat is fine, it's the melee stuff that sucks. It sounds weird but in it's current state it'd work better on a joypad with a lock-on function.
  • kencleary #21 7 years ago

    Hmmm its hard to quantify the performance dip between this and HL2. I'd only call it slight but there does seem to be a lot going on in the streets of Vampire like several people walking around and rain falling etc that increases the load.

    As I said the story has engrossed me to the degree that i'm currently playing this ahead of HL2. The levels are a bit samey samey after a while and I'm so sick of being directed by one person to another who can only help me if I help another person who can only help me if I help another person...................................you get the idea :)

    Bottom line if you like RPG games or games like Deus Ex you'll love this.
  • space_ace #22 7 years ago

    the biggest problem with performance is the huge diffrerence between indoors and outdoors-with-npc's - you go to the street and the game almost stops. are we supposed to play or to count the npc's and effects?!

    yeah, flawed masterpiece-candidate.
  • Khab #23 7 years ago

    If you spent the majority of your experience on making a talking character, for example, you'd be disappointed to find the last six or so hours lacking a chance to slut your way to victory. No significant multi-routing remains either.

    Why do they ALWAYS do that!

    /looks at KotOR
  • Whizzo #24 7 years ago

    Despite the flaws I think this is my favourite PC game this year, although I'm bloody glad I'm near the end of the sewer section.

    It needs a patch or two but I've not had any crashes but there's some sloppiness to it that should have been tidied up and considering the wait it's had as it couldn't be released before HL2 it seems strange that they're there.

    Great story, tons of freedom, plenty of replayability; it's what Deus Ex:IW should have been like.

    On the combat front, firearms are certainly fine and melee not as good but having even a Ventrue who's been brawling his way through the sewers and surviving it quite nicely is a lot of fun.
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/04 @ 13:36
  • UncleLou #25 7 years ago

    The worst slowdown for me happens when I am in melee combat with more than 3-4 enemies, even in smaller areas that ran silky-smooth before. Bloody annoying, as it makes the combat a bit harder to handle than it should be.
  • Whizzo #26 7 years ago

    I'm not sure an awful lot of the slowdown is related to graphical settings, I was buggering around maxing out my graphics to 1600x1200 with full AA and AF on and it didn't make an awful lot of difference. Dropping back to my normal 1024x768 with the same AA/AF and it's looking nicer than it did without and the performance is much the same as it was with no AA/AF.

    Loading and saving is certainly taking longer as the game progresses though but I'm enjoying myself so much that I'm prepared to forgive it. HL2 is not getting played because of this game and I can't think of a much higher recommendation than that.
  • WriterUK #27 7 years ago

    Excellent review.

    Last five paras ensured I won't buy it, though.
  • ave #28 7 years ago

    Sick of seeing excellent(but buggy) games ratings go from 9/10 to 6/10, make your mind up how much of the score is going to bugs and general playability, and stop faffing about

    As said previously, really isnt as much bugs for the majority of people as the review seems to indicate.
  • BremXJones #29 7 years ago

    Khab:
    "Why do they ALWAYS do that!
    /looks at KotOR"

    Yeah, bally KOTOR. Though it does it considerably less than Bloodlines did, and there's less oportunity to purely spend your XP on eventually useless skill-sets, so it's more annoying.

    They don't always do it though. Planescape: Torment remains the Gold standard in this sort of thing.

    Eukie:
    "Meh, if this HAD been called Deus Ex:Vampires it would have gotten a 9/10 from mister Gillen. Or maybe a few random nonsensical philosophical quotes would have done it."

    For the record, the writing in Vampire is much better than either Deus Ex. Though the multiple endings are much worse.

    Oh yeah - a cheerful Fuck You for implying I wasn't "honest" in my opinions on any game. Call me deluded or misguided if you want, but saying I'm an actual liar isn't really on.

    Whizzo:
    "Despite the flaws I think this is my favourite PC game this year, although I'm bloody glad I'm near the end of the sewer section. "

    I didn't say it in my review, but it's still actually one of my favourite games of the year. If I were to make a shortlist of what I'd remember from 2004, it'll definitely be on it. Just not one I can recommend without those reservations.

    KG
  • BremXJones #30 7 years ago

    "Sick of seeing excellent(but buggy) games ratings go from 9/10 to 6/10, make your mind up how much of the score is going to bugs and general playability, and stop faffing about "

    Depends entirely on the level of bugs, doesn't it?

    As I said in the review, my bugs experience was more towards the extreme end of the spectrum. However, I can't review any experience except my own.

    While the big show-stopping bugs are relatively rare*, in terms of glitches and the game regularly falling apart, it's there in every single game I've seen, and I've watched it on most of my friends machines. I think people are just being forgiving. When animation suddenly jerks when talking or a cut-scene plays slightly wrong, there goes that atmosphere. Frame-rate problems in combat is another general bug-bear people are getting, which of course only becomes more detrimental the further you get.

    KG

    *Though there's one in the Training sequence, apparently, which I didn't hit.
  • UncleLou #31 7 years ago

    I'd like to give the same recommendation as Whizzo, seeing that many people here seem to hesitate buying this: I haven't yet finished Half-Life 2 because of it. That's not to say I wouldn't give HL2 a higher score, but 2 out of 3 times I fire up a game these days, it's Vampire.
  • ave #32 7 years ago

    Arcanum was _EXTREMELY_ buggy, had several very badly balanced parts - but I loved it to bits, and is still one of my favourite PC CRPG's.

    Having recently played Torment for the first time, (and reading all the homages to it over the years), I was dissapointed.

    More streamlined, bug free, good dialogue/quests, but doesnt have a patch on arcanum's atmosphere and immersion.

    A great RPG game, I can forgive bugs, I'd take it any day over a mediocre one with no bugs any day.
  • Dynamize #33 7 years ago

    I love it. Bugs are an annoyance and the performance on my machine is "average to poor" compared to "excellent" on Half Life 2, but after a shaky start Bloodlines has managed to win my love.
    Wonder if this'll do well enough commercially to get Troika interested in an expansion pack or summat. Bah, like an ungrateful child I am, always looking to the future.
  • Mr_Sleep #34 7 years ago

    "More streamlined, bug free, good dialogue/quests, but doesnt have a patch on arcanum's atmosphere and immersion. "

    I thought Arcanum had some pretty interesting ideas and the plot had a nice feel to it but it was far too directionless and it was quite tiresome to actually get anywhere, the combat engine and interface were dire and the graphics weren't very useful either. I was actually quite enjoying it for a while and then I just got very bored of the sheer amount of traipsing around. Linearity is sometimes a good thing imho.
  • BremXJones #35 7 years ago

    I quite liked Arcanum - not incredibly, but a fair bit - and had similar problems with it to those other people in this thread.

    I also found it spectacularly unatmospheric.

    KG
  • UncleLou #36 7 years ago

    Hm, Arcanum was ok, but I never could be bothered to finish it. It didn't help that its recommended specs on the back of the box should have been quadupled. I can't understand how one can even begin to compare it to Planescape in respect of the atmosphere and immersion, but to each his own.
  • Mr_Sleep #37 7 years ago

    "I also found it spectacularly unatmospheric."

    That too, one of the more important features of an RPG. The interesting thing is that there should have been quite a bit of atmosphere since you are being hunted down etc but it just doesn't really come through.
  • BremXJones #38 7 years ago

    "so deluded, I guess ;-)"

    Deluded is very much nearer the mark ;)

    KG
  • ave #39 7 years ago

    Rose tinted glasses(for me) I suspect.

    Did you play PS:T before or after arcanum?
  • BremXJones #40 7 years ago

    I did, I think. I only came to Planescape Torment relatively late, after it had been out for a couple of years, while I played Arcanum at release.

    (It was a classic break up game - RPGs are perfect when you're doing that moping around after splitting with some girl).

    KG
  • Mr_Sleep #41 7 years ago

    PS:T before Arcanum, PS:T at release and Arcanum a few months back, I always meant to give it more time but everytime I booted it up I just got bored and frustrated and gave up.
  • krudster #42 7 years ago

    Dunno why, there's just something about this game that makes me want to buy it. Maybe when they've released a patch though...
  • urban #43 7 years ago

    the intro was really scary, i actually thought it was some sort of mind game that characters were facing the wall then would all of a sudden snap around and smirk at you....really worrying

    fair rating...
  • BremXJones #44 7 years ago

    Mr The Comment: You may have just undermined your own argument in the manner you expressed it.

    KG
  • Shivoa #45 7 years ago

    May? MAY!? Has is the word you're looking for there :)
  • rauper Verified Managing Director, Eurogamer Network #46 7 years ago

  • ave #47 7 years ago

    The Comment - I've played PS:T for about 30 hours so far, but it's a struggle to launch the game each time :/
  • BremXJones #48 7 years ago

    "That someone could very well be the boozed up lead designer with a seriously offended artistical genious. Then after, someone could make a game of it."

    I'd play it.

    KG
  • Bitkari #49 7 years ago

    [caution: whiney comment follows]

    The visual look of this title is average, ditto for the animation.

    The acting is good, and the narrative interesting.

    Technically there aren't really any major problems - although the constant loading is moderately annoying (see: deus ex 2). Surely they could have fit slightly larger areas in to memory?

    Calling this "immersive" is a tad too kind. The game world is almost entirely non-reactive. Maybe the morrowind's and deus ex's of the world have spoilt me, but am I the only one who expects to be able to do more in Bloodlines?

    Quests are (so far) quite dull, and get in the way of the story rather than adding to it.

    I'm thinking they may as well have just made this a straight adventure game and saved their 'V:TM' RPG for a later date...


  • Orange #50 7 years ago

    Very good review, although I would give it an 8. It does have a definite "not finished" feel to it, but the atmosphere and the characters are great.

    I hope a lot of people buy this and that Troika get a patch or two out.
  • Varsity #51 7 years ago

    The fact that is went 'gold' months before HL2 was released (an event which contractually had to happen before Vampires was released) adds insult to injury over the game's buggy state.
  • stonedben #52 7 years ago

    Its buggy, it hates my PC, and yet I like it. Nice review too :-)
    (Deus Ex is my favourite game, if it even comes half way to being that good I'll be happy)
  • botski #53 7 years ago

    Kieron nailed this one. When I read this review for the first time a week or so ago, I had just started the game and was truly caught up in its intoxicating beauty. I thought his score a bit low.

    Now I have experienced said dungeon crawl and at least a couple hundred loading zones, and I am having a hard time convincing myself to finish the game. If the first part of the game is a 90 rating, this last part is indeed a 50, giving us the prized 70.
  • judas #54 7 years ago