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Tony Hawk's Project 8 Review

Xbox 360 Review by John Walker

17 November, 2006

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He was a punk

Hopefully this emphasises quite how vast Project 8 is. There are hundreds of missions, uninterrupted by loading, and all instantaneously restartable (if you ever played Trackmania, you'll know how gratifying it is to be able to immediately start over after failing a tough task, and Project 8 nails this too).

The cast of pros is nice and fresh. Lots of the most impressive new talent stand alongside masters like Hawk and Rodney Mullen. The incredible Ryan Scheckler and Daewon Song appear, along with wunderkind Nyjah Huston, underlining the embracing of the next generation in every imaginable sense. Each spent time motion-capturing themselves for their specific moves (unlockable video footage of this is also to be found), adding to the authenticity. There's Bam Margera of course, but this time looking like the odd boy out, offering his stunt-focused brand of challenges as a refreshing alternative, rather than their domineering frustration in Underground 2. And oddly, Jason Lee is a major character, involved in acquiring you sponsorship, and alerting you to new competitions appearing around the town.

And she did ballet

So there you have it: Tony Hawk Project 8 is the best the series has ever been. And that's without Nail The Trick/Glistening Dew mode.

'Tony Hawk's Project 8' Screenshot 3

He's not skating. Someone glued him to the garage wall for messing up their tulips.

At any point while in the air, clicking those analogue sticks slows down time, and zooms in on the skateboard and your feet. At this point, each analogue stick represents one of your feet. Flick down with the left stick, and your left foot will push the board down. Catch the lip with the right stick as it rotates and you'll kick it in a circle. It's incredibly tricky at first, the timing needing to be perfect, and the bailing failure frequent. But then, it clicks. It makes sense. And then it's sheer, crazed bliss. Get enough air and you can pull off the most astonishing moves, and not because you pressed X, but because you moved your foot at the exact right moment to be that awesome. It puts you completely in control, removing the automated cheatery of all action gaming. As you see yourself descending, fast approaching the half-pipe's wooden surface, make sure the board has rotated until it's grip tape up, pointing forward, and let go. And you land it, and you feel like a god.

Now factor in how gob-smackingly beautiful it is. The whole game looks really lovely (but for the character faces - the curse of the Xbox has struck the skating crew, and especially poor old Hawk who looks like an anaemic zombie). The world textures are as detailed and pretty as can be. Except no, it can be that bit prettier, in Nail The Dew Mode. Zoomed in, the world behind is Vaseline-bleary, sight focused on the explicit detail of your board, flakes of wood splintering from the edge, the sponsor logo on the wheels spinning, the grip tape tangible, all shining majestically in the light. It's skateboard porn.

What more can I say?

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There are a few proper skate parks in town, as well as the re-interpreted streets.

The Live aspect is less overwhelming, offering mini-games, rather than my mad desire for Test Drive Unlimited on skateboards. Perhaps that's for the next iteration - are you listening, Neversoft? More entertaining is the sharing of records across the world, where each in-game challenge is recorded, meaning you can attempt to beat the best grind distance of not only the designers' whim, but also some weird kid in Texas.

A fool would see this as more of the same Tony Hawk skating. It's the perfection of Tony Hawk skating. It's ridiculously big, completely lovely looking, and perfect arcade gaming. It's ideal for filling a quick half hour, which then mysteriously lasts until quarter to four in the morning when you've got loads of work to do the next day, but you had to wall-plant that table from the school buses because it would open up the Slums, which would then give you access to the incredible factory, see? Quarter to four in the morning - it's been so long since a game did that to me.

Oh, and the authenticity argument: No, of course it's not. But yet, while exaggerated and impossible, it's all executed properly. Every wobble, every turn, all motion-captured. The ragdoll on the bails is barking mad, even allowing you to augment its lunacy by extending the skeleton-destroying impacts, but that just makes the boring bit - falling off your skateboard - more fun. So hurrah! And as a final test, I got my friend Jo who runs a charity youth skate park to check it out (www.one-eighty.org.uk plug plug). She said, "You can't ollie a vert at that speed!" or something, but then wouldn't give me the controller back for the rest of the evening. Which is about as strong a recommendation as I'm able to offer.

9/10

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Xerx3s
17/11/06 @ 08:42
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Better than GoW then?

/coat
effinjamie
17/11/06 @ 08:44
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No mention of the reported framerate problems then?
petebritish
17/11/06 @ 08:46
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Too many games too little money. Euromillion jackpot needed to fund gaming habit.

It would be cheaper to be on the white stuff..
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17/11/06 @ 08:47
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What is the deal with all these reports of some people having framerate issues on next-gen games and others saying it never happens? I mean on the previous gen a game either had framerate problems or it didn't. Is it just to do with what resolution you run at or whether its widescreen or not?
asphaltcowboy
17/11/06 @ 08:48
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Awesome! Too much money to spend! :(
Ceatlan
17/11/06 @ 08:48
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Is this game any good for a somebody new to the franchise, and or with no knowledge of skate boarding etc.

I've tried the demos of almost all the games in the series (including this one) but never really worked out what was supposed to grab you. Everybody always raves about them so I assume I must be missing something. I have no idea what any of the move names mean, no idea what you are supposed to be trying to do, and none of the games seem to have any kind of tutorial that leads you into the game.

Yossarian
17/11/06 @ 08:48
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godddamn you Xbox 360 what is with all these good games coming out at once
moggsy
17/11/06 @ 08:50
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What is the deal with all these reports of some people having framerate issues on next-gen games and others saying it never happens?

That puzzles me as well as I've never really experienced it on my 360. Could it be down to the resolution you play it at? I play all my games at 720p.
Tonka
17/11/06 @ 08:51
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Brilliant use of Captions
Nige
17/11/06 @ 08:51
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I might wait for a reader's average on this one... the general review consensus I got was... 'almost - but not quite.'
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Vroom!
17/11/06 @ 08:51
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Yay! I knew this would be great from the demo :o)

Steroyd
17/11/06 @ 08:52
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It's your typical November get used to it. :)

Sounds like a return to form just as well then because EA is planning to start a lil competition with their new Skate game.
Scimarad
17/11/06 @ 08:53
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Have you tried the PS3 version yet? From what I hear it's the laziest of lazy ports:-(
BremXJones
17/11/06 @ 08:53
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WE ARE IN LOVE! HAVEN'T YOU HEARD! HOW WE ROCK EACH OTHER'S WORLD!?!?!?!?!?!

KG
Santino
17/11/06 @ 08:55
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i havent played a hawk game since underground 1 because they are too easy once you've nailed the skate model and each far too similar, but i feel weirdly 'pulled' to try this one, maybe its cos i havent played a new one for so long.
Super_Zee
17/11/06 @ 08:55
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Best in the series? After letting the perfection of Hawks 3 take over my life for months, that's a claim I'd love to find correct. Bring it!
krudster [mod]
17/11/06 @ 08:58
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I can't speak for John directly, but I suspect he ran it on a SDTV, which may account for why he didn't experience frame rate issues.
Lionheart
17/11/06 @ 09:02
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@ Santino
Agreed.... I think i'll buy this when i get paid next Friday
AND Dustin Dollin is in it =D
Super_Zee
17/11/06 @ 09:02
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Help me. I have a voucher for Gamestation. Just one. Hawks or Gears?

I have F.E.A.R. on the go too.

Enough is never enough.
Bad Devotions
17/11/06 @ 09:03
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too much is never enough!
chupachups
17/11/06 @ 09:05
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"It would be cheaper to be on the white stuff.."

http://www.thisisnotmy.co.uk/images/sher...

Yum yum yum!
Tiiti
17/11/06 @ 09:09
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The series just went downhill after 3 or maybe 4. Reading this review has got me interested again... cmon' euromillions!

Tonights winning numbers will be 1,2,3,4,5-6,7


masterson
17/11/06 @ 09:10
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I picked up this and GoW yesterday - love both. GoW I'm intent on going thru co-op (which is fantastic by the way) so this gets played during the day while I wait for my girlfriend and/or mates to get back from work. :D
I played the first 3 THPS religously - yet as with many others my interest dwindled from 4 onwards. I still got them in the hope they'd recapture the "old magic" but they never really did. This is a real return to form - focussing on what it's all about - when feet meet a bit of wood on wheels. The focus is back on the board - quite literally with the very cool (and not really at all gimmicky) nail-the-trick mode.
For the first time since 3 it looks and plays far better than the previous installments. As the review so eloquently put's it - "It's skateboard porn."

BTW - I'm running it at 720P - haven't noticed any framerate issues yet.
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gizmo
17/11/06 @ 09:18
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@effinjamie

Apparantly its the PS3 version which has the framerate problems, according to other sites.
Pastici
17/11/06 @ 09:18
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Any differences between the 360 and PS2 versions?
Rambaldi
17/11/06 @ 09:18
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I could be wrong here, but I think that the VGA input is more prone to framerate issues that Compnent is as is playing on 1080 as opposed to 720.

Also, playing it on a PS3 gives you a much worse framerate (according to the reviews) and no online play. TH3 R3AL N3XT G3N!

Anyhoo: am I the only person who likes framerates around 25? I've got this thingy on my Philips TV that smooths out framerate and, when watching a movie, it looks plain wrong. It's like watching some sickly glossy american sitcom.
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Rodster
17/11/06 @ 09:18
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Framerate issues are most prevalent on the PS3. The 360 version is fine for the most part.
Rambaldi
17/11/06 @ 09:26
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P.S. Got GOW yesterday and as a die-hard shooter fan I can say...

..that the 8 is about right. Perhaps even generous. It looks amazing, granted, but popping in and out of cover wears a bit thin after a while. It feels almost like a shooting gallery at the fair rather than an absorbing firefight. Enemy AI is a joke compared to FEAR and Halo and yes, all the macho marine stuff wears a bit thin after a while. The controls feel a bit off too: using the green buttin for dashing to cover is a good idea but often you stick to the wrong damn surface: just pushing in the right direction would've been nice insead of the 'auto-cover' that's implememted. I've also had trouble connecting to online games, but I've not tried it yet today. Hopefuly a few more Brits online will resolve that issue. Looking forward to a bit of co-op though.

My personal rank order of recent shooters (offline): FEAR, COD3, GOW. I'm guessing, based on the demo, that R63 will squeeze in between FEAR and COD3.

Either way, 4 cool new shooters can't be bad! Way to go 360:)
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Nova5lag
17/11/06 @ 09:32
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Wow an extra GoW review for free... :S Thanks I think.
kuwagata
17/11/06 @ 09:35
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nowt odd about Jason Lee being in the game, he were a right good skater back in the day
Super_Zee
17/11/06 @ 09:35
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@Rambaldi

Cheers, That's alot of help and I'm reading loads of similar things from other players. Hawks today then and trade in F.E.A.R. for GoW when I finish it (not really playing multi).

Although I do tend to change my mind every ten minutes.

And am I the only one who doesn't play on Live at all? I have Gold but never really got into playing with people I don't know. Maybe I had too many bad experiences with mad foreigners during my first games of Halo 2...
botherer
17/11/06 @ 09:36
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Ceatlan - I'd say yes. A friend of mine who'd not played the previous games was immediately grinding and leaping about. Certainly familiarity with the franchise means it's all instinctive, but for Dew Mode, but this is completely accessible.
space ace
17/11/06 @ 09:38
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"glistening" is quite a stretch for us, non-native speakers, i'll admit that
sickpuppysoftware
17/11/06 @ 09:40
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Any differences between the 360 and PS2 versions?

From what I've read, the game is split into levels rather than one big one, the fancy new trick thing is made easier as it prompts you when to kick and there's no online.
Zomoniac
17/11/06 @ 09:46
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It's region-free, so all you non-pikey PAL dudes wanting a cheap copy can get one for around £23 from here, when they get some stock in. Cheap FEAR as well :)
sharpfish
17/11/06 @ 09:52
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Wasn't that impressed with the demo (technically), though the skateboard action felt decent. I like the dynamics of these games but i'm NOT into the culture/lingo/image so I don't buy all that hypey-stuff.

As a game though the demo was fun, as skateboard games usually are.

However, it wasn't overly impressive compared to previous skateboard games so maybe a buy when on budget (or rental).

And PS3 version is inferior, go figure, like we didn't warn everyone this would happen! Hopefully by the time the PS3 is in plentiful supply, the game reviews for it will have saved some players ££££ of wasted cash.
botherer
17/11/06 @ 09:56
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Oi, no 360 vs PS3 fights in MY comments threads!

Because obviously the Wii will be best.
sn3jk
17/11/06 @ 09:56
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Ive played the US import for awhile on my PAL 360 @ 1080i res. have not experienced any framerate issues.

Baz_Dude
17/11/06 @ 10:00
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Your headings are of a song i hate. But it does suit skateboarding of which i also hate.

MEH!
jlaakso
17/11/06 @ 10:01
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I want this game so bad. The review perfectly reflects how I felt after playing the demo.

The 360 has some seriously good games available right now.
neuroniky
17/11/06 @ 10:04
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Tony Hawk.
Again.
Every time I get one of these... I end up playing 8 hour or more straight for 3-4 days. Then I put down the pad, grab my skate, crash my sorry butt somewhere, and then I come back at home bruised and satisfied. And then the Tony Hawk game is put away somewhere, never to be touched again.
So, what I'm going to do. Oh, f**k
/me places order.
mentat [mod]
17/11/06 @ 10:04
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Another Kari fan \o/

Still fondly remember the episode where she gets covered in silver paint from head to toe.

/dreams
OllyJ
17/11/06 @ 10:05
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got to admit I'm lovin it so far, I know i'm nay a regular as some people here but I posted a pretty scathing review of THAW in that reviews comments, I basically returned it the next morning, I hated it.


This is back to the good stuff, I'm only an hour in but so far very very good.

Anyone fancy a game online add me : Goatmaster12
Carlo
17/11/06 @ 10:06
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Better than.... Well better than most 360 games frankly!
Wobble
17/11/06 @ 10:12
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My first proper skateboard was one of Jason Lee's vision decks :)
Well first pro deck anyway, first real one was that green face epic(?) one.

/googles to see if he can find it
Mordum
17/11/06 @ 10:18
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For gods sake. My list was full for the next two months... I already had games that were going to have to wait untill after christmas, and now this Viva Pinata and FEAR are trying to gatecrash their way into my 'must buy' list. How the hell am I expected to get through these games before Lost Planet, etc arrive early next year? It's a problem, but a good problem I suppose. Here was me moaning about the desolate summer period of gaming on my 360, now I'd give anything for a couple of quiet months, so I can get back on track.

Anyway, back on topic, I only played the first three Tony Hawks games, and have never really had the urge to return to the series, but after reading the review it sounds like its definately worth a look.
Jheronimus
17/11/06 @ 10:21
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This one might bring me back to the series I abandoned after TH:PS4. Couldn't care for Wasteland, but this looks pretty interesting :)

So much games, so little time, so little money. What a shame!
s33r
17/11/06 @ 10:34
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cracking game love it I do love it
MrFlintBlackman
17/11/06 @ 10:43
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Skate boarding games suck ass. Period.
Have_to_Speak_Up
17/11/06 @ 10:48
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Well I've got GOW and this (and COD3 but lets forget that). I have a feeling when i get home I'll be ejecting GOW... hum

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