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Pro Evolution Soccer 6 Review

Review by Kristan Reed

26 October, 2006

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Tom sharpens his studs

I was sitting in my lounge last Thursday playing Pro Evolution Soccer 6 with a friend, and halfway through our second nil-nil - as Brazil and France bounced off each other's stubborn, powerful defences - a third friend, who had been patiently waiting for something to happen, started to chant quietly under his breath: "Allez! Allez! Allez!"

This, he insisted, after being beaten up with a cushion, was Pro Evolution Soccer: Liverpool Under Gerard Houllier Edition, closer to real football than ever in terms of its grittiness and its physicality, but not exactly fiery and explosive to behold - unless of course you're referring to our third game of the evening, when my opponent's patience ran out and was replaced by exasperated use of the slide-tackle button. 11 versus 8, that finished, and I only won one-nil.

Individual players' pace is much less of a defining factor now, with acceleration in short supply. Players like Ronaldinho struggle to break through on pace alone, and even when Robben and Cristiano Ronaldo receive the ball out wide in line with the centre circle, they're much better off making for the byline than trying to cut inside. There are fewer "godly" players here in general, and with the top sprint speed now reduced, it's also a more physical game. Stature is incredibly important. Pick a heavy-set back line and you can deal with a lot of threats before anything develops, because they will do a surprisingly effective job of closing down nippy forwards even if their legs are older than Maldini's. Cesare Maldini's. Meanwhile in attack, finding composure on the ball is simultaneously more necessary and much harder, with a lot of shots ballooning away unhelpfully unless you're perfectly set to strike, or your attacking stat point is breaking through the top of the skills pentagon.

'Pro Evolution Soccer 6' Screenshot x360

The 360 game is noticeably different, graphically (as you'd expect), but still characteristically PES.

Fortunately off-the-ball movement has improved, and it's possible to do more with the ball in close confines using the shielding button, holding it up and pivoting away from defenders. You can do a clever little dragback turn to create space, too, and in each case it's just as well given that PES6 relies so heavily on patient build-up play. Where once you could get away with surging forward and playing a quick one-two to reach the edge of the penalty area, here you'll only be using that through-ball button during moments of supreme vision and excellence, and even then you'll probably find the defence has tracked you back by the time you approach the penalty area.

There are at least some things that improve on the balance and flow of the last major Western release, PES5, like the less twitchy referees, who can now thankfully stomach the odd bit of argy-bargy from the defensive 'pressing' buttons, and the ability to keep the ball when sliding in with a tackle, which does more than anything to keep the turnover rate within reasonable bounds, and certainly helps to discourage profligate use of the dash button in central midfield. Meanwhile, the addition of a quick free-kick function, activated when it's possible by pressing the two shoulder buttons closest to you at the same time, allows you to continue without having the entire opposition team standing ahead of the ball, as was the case in the past, and the advantage rule is better-handled, with players being punished even if play has subsequently taken quite a while to stop.

But equally it's hard to escape the feeling that this shift in balance has led to a more frustrating game overall. Konami wants us to be excellent before we can dance through teams, and it's a noble goal more ably realised than in previous versions, but is it actually fun?

The answer is that that probably depends on what you want out of it. If all you want to do is take Ronaldinho on a whistle-stop tour of every blade of grass, pirouetting with the right-analogue-twirl through a lead-footed defence on the way to smashing the ball past the goalkeeper, you can achieve that by notching the difficulty down to the first or second levels. (In the Xbox 360 version's case, that's certainly the best way to mine it for gamerpoints - with most of them available for winning leagues and cups, which can be done on any difficulty level. Grr.)

'Pro Evolution Soccer 6' Screenshot ps2

While the PS2 version looks a bit gritty and even cartoony at this point, the animations are still second to none.

But surely, for the more adventurous, simply bouncing around midfield until you can find a sufficient bludgeon is just forced attrition?

Well, maybe on your own, but in multiplayer, I'm happy to say, there's still a great game to be had. Multiplayer games see both players working hard to maintain possession, shielding the ball and fashioning openings through deception, dragging defenders out of position and using flair players like Zidane, whose characteristics inspire his team-mates to work more confidently around him, to switch the play. But although the lack of speed pushes you into certain tactical brackets, the things that are brilliant about PES remain intact: the individual players' real-life strengths and weaknesses convincingly portrayed through a set of statistics and particular aptitudes; the need to think like a footballer to create chances, and the need to act like one to seize on them; the precise fatigue and injury systems that demand tactical considerations often absent from the competition. Most importantly, there's the genuinely convincing illusion of football: PES looks like little footballers playing football. Sometimes they're a bit dim-witted, failing to pounce on a loose ball (and the goalkeepers make some fairly horrendous mistakes now and then), but the illusion itself remains intact, the players' shortfalls themselves quite convincing.

And, of course, so much is decided by that great footballing truism: that anything can happen. You may not be able to roar past the left-back, but you can always outwit him to create space and get the cross in, and nowhere is that more true than against a football-loving friend, the way PES is meant to be played. When it all pays off, and you split the defence in the last minute, calmly slotting the ball past the advancing keeper, the sense of elation is almost without compare.

Even so, I would probably still rather choose PES5, or even Winning Eleven 10 (which, while almost comically fast, is far more accessible and visceral) to play with others, because as much as there's a demand on skill and planning here, there comes a point in time when you lose a game because Henry was caught by a defender despite starting off a couple of yards ahead of him, and that grates.

'Pro Evolution Soccer 6' Screenshot online

Meanwhile, online is much better on PS2, with more players supported.

And while we're on the subject of grating, let's address the differences between the PS2 and Xbox 360 versions, which hardly flatter the new boy. On PlayStation 2, you can play four versus four online. On Xbox 360, you can play one on one, or two versus two offline (Xbox 360 has no support at all for more than four players on one console, either). On PS2, you can choose from 33 stadiums. On Xbox 360, there are eight. On PS2, you have the PES Shop to work through, unlocking extra bits and pieces. On Xbox 360, there is no shop - you get what you're given. On PS2, the menus allow you to quickly flick between starting eleven and substitutes; to view the scorers during a game by hitting the pause button; to save off replays to your memory card; to edit virtually anything in the game; to play an International Challenge mode, based on World Cup qualifying, and Random Selection matches, where teams are randomly drawn players from a chosen continent (simply brilliant for multiplayer pick-up matches). On Xbox 360, of all of that, all you can do is edit the player names. You can't even save replays, which is just ludicrous - particularly given that the manual actually says you can.

Graphically, the Xbox 360 has widescreen support, and many more polygons pumped into every area. Movement in both versions is slick and believable, to a degree it hasn't been in any other version. Players now tumble over challenges that they can't hurdle and goalkeepers tip the ball around posts single-handed. On that level, Konami continues to impress. Body shapes are convincing, those little flicks look just like they do on TV, with players prancing to avoid follow-through, and although the 360 players are a little bit Madame Tussauds in places, that version's conservative enough in other areas to avoid the impressive fuzzy-felt effect of other sports games. Then again, and this is true of both PS2 and Xbox 360 to some of extent (the latter of which has Dolby Digital support), the crowd remains quite dead at times, chanting away but rarely all that excited when the ball flies into the net, and although the 360 graphics are slick and in places believable, we're not talking about Fight Night levels of realism here; this just looks like a PS2 game put through a few filters.

Konami has also resisted whatever urges it may have felt about some of the game's other core mechanics. Throw-ins, corners, penalties - all a bit rubbish, all the same. Free-kicks are still acceptably skill-based and interesting, and success has a lot to do with the player you've chosen to stand over the ball (hint: deselect, wherever necessary, Roberto one-in-a-hundred Carlos). But this is still old-PES. You get the feeling the series needs to put PS2 behind it and focus exclusively on the next-generation formats before it will find a new level.

'Pro Evolution Soccer 6' Screenshot stadium

Xbox 360's stadiums are much nicer, graphically, but there are far fewer of them.

Somebody also needs to get a bit more proactive in the licensing department. With FIFA seemingly on the march in a gameplay sense, the disparity between EA's gotta-catch-'em-all approach to licensing and Konami's positioning-a-bedsheet-under-the-window is all the more apparent. Chelsea are back to being London FC, even though Manchester United are in. The Germans appear to have gone completely, but for Bayern Munich's lurking in Other Leagues A. The Master League (thankfully they remembered to include that on Xbox 360) feels a bit lifeless as a result, and of course if you buy the Xbox 360 version, you can't rely on somebody painstakingly altering everything and then offering the save-file to download, and nor can you do everything yourself. There's also a bit of hangover from World Cup squads - with players like Zidane and Beckham still there, despite their real-life circumstances.

All of which means that Pro Evolution Soccer is worth your money for the sixth year in a row, but hardly the massive leap that it has been in the past. If you have a choice of formats, PlayStation 2 looks to be the way to go, with better features in almost every department - including online, despite Xbox 360's service-level superiority. Indeed, Xbox 360 owners have every right to be disappointed by this release, and chant angrily from in front the screen. In the end I'm left feeling the same way about Konami's current PES-base that I did during the summer the mighty 'pool booted Ged Houllier: what we have is solid, and refinements could propel it back to glory, but really it's high time we started over from scratch.

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Benno
26/10/06 @ 14:13
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damn second

i knew they would screw up the 360 version
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26/10/06 @ 14:16
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Krud, Mugwun: What should I but tomorrow FIFA07 or PES6. I'll put it this way, you've got £50 and you can only afford one, what would you get?
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26/10/06 @ 14:16
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JESUS CHRIST!!!

The differences are unbelievable. I do not understand this, unless its to pimp all the 'extras' on marketplace.
gizmo
26/10/06 @ 14:19
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Looks like FIFA may be the way to go for the first time ever for me.
krudster [mod]
26/10/06 @ 14:20
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FIFA review coming first thing tomorrow....
slave23d
26/10/06 @ 14:21
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whats the bet they are waiting on developing the Ps3 version and decided the screw the 360 owners (for now) as they didnt think it was worth it till they were doing a muiltiformat true next gen version?
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26/10/06 @ 14:23
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After playing the shocking FIFA 07 demo on the marketplace and after reading this review this might be the year where I don't buy any football games.
Yossarian
26/10/06 @ 14:29
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"Having raked in the profits from selling literally tens of millions of copies of the various PES games over the years, it's absolutely mystifying why Konami still brings its most important game to market with such a degree of unapologetic poverty. PES6 stinks of a cynical, half-arsed attempt to mug the 360's hungry user-base into buying a next-gen version of their favourite football game. Not only is it far from 'next-gen' it's not even properly finished."

Yes. Yes EXACTLY.

more convinced I was right to not buy this than ever. seventy euro saved.
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Singularity
26/10/06 @ 14:30
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Wow, it sounds horrible.
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26/10/06 @ 14:33
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8/10?! Sounds more like a 6!

It looks like for the first time Konami and EA have swapped around:
One company treads water and recycles last years version and the other attempts to bring something new to the table.
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krudster [mod]
26/10/06 @ 14:34
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I wouldn't go that far, but the cracks are there for all to see.
sturridge
26/10/06 @ 14:35
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This 360 version smells of the development team behind the nintendo versions of pro evo, mind those? They were awful and I mean awful. Still, this game (in its PS2 form) will suffice and I will buy it anyway, theres nothing like beating your sister (who plays real football very well ) 3- nil, it really show her who mum and dad love bestest!

Yeah!

Sturridge
Azazel
26/10/06 @ 14:36
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two exclusive stadiums

ooooh, sign me up...
Rambaldi
26/10/06 @ 14:37
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Aw crap! Just bought this but haven't opened the packaging. WHAT TO DO!

/bites nails all wide eyed n shit
SlackMaster
26/10/06 @ 14:38
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I'm amazed that they'll charge a premium for an inferior version on the 360 ... Good graphics we expect but what about all the features they've missed out.
Mentalist(air)
26/10/06 @ 14:40
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oh, shit.

I was all ready to go out and buy this on 360 tomorrow morning.

Now, after playing the demo for a couple of weeks, I'm wondering if I should just buy Fifa instead.
Xerx3s
26/10/06 @ 14:41
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The next gen is about more choice and less options.
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26/10/06 @ 14:41
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It's so difficult to score, I want to give it a 5 for the nasty cheap production values of the 360 version.

But then you play a game and realise that PES6 just plays a brilliant game of football. Examples I've had over the last day:

Henry turns away from the defender on the half way line (using the one touch turn) moves onto goal, opens his body up and slots it into the corner.

On another occasion again using Henry I pick up the ball by the box, the defender takes me away from goal but I have a split second and lash it across goal into the top corner of the net.

Both times football perfection, which deserve a 9. Just glad I'm not a reviewer.

Bertie [staff]
26/10/06 @ 14:42
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I want crypt-keeper Sven!
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26/10/06 @ 14:43
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well i will still buy it over fifa even if the version is as bad as they say it is it cant be worse than fifa i hate fifa and have played pro evo from the start and probs will for a long time maybe this is how they keep the sales ticking over as i still play pes 5 even thpough it is the most frustrating game ever it cant be worse than the refs blowing all the time if they have taken them out as they say then i will be happy!!!
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26/10/06 @ 14:44
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Thanking Konami for that exclusivity now Microsoft?
fizzer25
26/10/06 @ 14:45
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yeah its a bit sucky that ps2 owners get more than us 360 owners but i dont care about stupid things like more stadiums - who gives a f*** they dont make the game play any different and i aint that bothered about visuals gameplay people!!!!

anyway im still getting it will asda 24 hour stores sell this after 12 tonight? i wanna go and get it cos i have put a hol in at work to spend all day playing it!!!
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26/10/06 @ 14:46
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Dissappointing shit for sure, it's pretty poor how slack/complacent Konami have become, especially when you consider that this is the sort of thing that the extremely fickle gaming community online likes to bash EA exclusively for.

Nevertheless, it's PES6, on 360. I'll still be getting it on launch day, I've been playing the PSP PES5 and desperately need to get back to a console. The fact that they've cut numerous corners is pretty fucking paltry though, and I hope some shit is fixed in an update which we don't have to bloody well pay for, because as mentioned, the inability to save replays on the 360 is ludicrous and frankly, inexcusable.

As for the game itself and the mechanics, that is a shame, I thought the attack was being refined to make it a bit more fun and such, but instead it seems like the defence has been refined. Not that there's anything wrong with that but scoring in PES5 was so much fun, to lose that would be very unfortunate, especially considering that PES5 was hampered by many issues which seem to have been fixed here.

Is just incredibly dissappointing and non-sensical that they've been so slack with the 360 version, I'm sure it'll all be fixed next time around but this shouldn't have been the case in the first place,and co development of last gen and next gen titles is something that has really been shitting me so far with the 360, because it's more prolific than any generational shift before it. Developers badly need to get with the times and look toward the future rather than dwelling on the past, no matter how lucrative it may be. PES6 on PS2 should have been the crippled version if any, not the 360 version, encouraging people to move on and such. Poor form Konami.
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26/10/06 @ 14:47
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Heh, so the Xbox 360 has features cut out that I never used, but better graphics and widescreen mode and running in 1080i.

Nope, doesn't convince me to buy the PS2 version instead. Besides, there's a chance we'll get the rest of the game later - although for a little more cash.

Also, he Xbox 360 manual says you can save the replays? Did they print the same manual, and forgot to remove the features from the manual? Maybe they're planning on adding it in a patch, but wanted to release the game simultaneously with the other versions.
gizmo
26/10/06 @ 14:47
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"I'll buy it anyway"

And so the rot continues.
TeddyBoy
26/10/06 @ 14:48
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Iirc weren't MS insisting that 360 versions of multiplatform release at same time as other versions, therefore in some games features are being cut so that it can be released at the same as the other versions, probably that's what happened here?
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AcidSnake
26/10/06 @ 14:48
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Isn't this going into EA territory now?
With downloads available to buy to make the 360 version have the same features as the ps2 one?

'Moo', says cashcow.
Scientist
26/10/06 @ 14:49
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"well i will still buy it over fifa even if the version is as bad as they say it is it cant be worse than fifa i hate fifa and have played pro evo from the start and probs will for a long time maybe this is how they keep the sales ticking over as i still play pes 5 even thpough it is the most frustrating game ever it cant be worse than the refs blowing all the time if they have taken them out as they say then i will be happy!!! "

Down with punctuation!
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26/10/06 @ 14:49
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LOL! The PS2 version is streets ahead of the X360 version! Including online! ;) :D
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fizzer25
26/10/06 @ 14:51
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scientist its a forum not a fu**in writing contest ya sad basta**
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26/10/06 @ 14:51
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I've played FIFA07 on the PS2 since it came out. And no doubt it is the better overall package when I compare the two. FIFA07 is fully licensed, the controls can be mapped the same as PES, Online play with USB headset, Interactive Leagues (which I really enjoy BTW), to list but a few.

But when you come down to the playing the actual game of football - PES6 on the PS2 (I don't have a gaming PC, or xbox360) plays the better game of football. It 'feels' better - you feel like you have more control, the players are more intuitive, the ball behaves better, the game flows better.

The best direct comparison I can think of is defence. After three weeks of playing FIFA07, I still haven't mastered defence - it might be a problem with me of course, but online I have been constantly frustrated with the way my defence behaves, regardless of what defensive tactic I try (although "pressure" appears the least worst). In PES the defence appears to be a more cohesive unit, and mistakes are still made - but they are usual *my* fault, so I blame myself, not the game.

Overall I think the gap between the two has closed dramatically. Both have a lot to offer. PES6 edges it for me, as it is about the game of football, but FIFA doesn't have to do much more to eclipse it. A couple of tweaks, and PES is in real trouble.
Yossarian
26/10/06 @ 14:54
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"co development of last gen and next gen titles is something that has really been shitting me so far with the 360, because it's more prolific than any generational shift before it"

+1,000

I watch videos of Gears of War and go 'oh hey so that's what it looks like when a developer actually gets to devote time to making a 360 exclusive'. even the new Splinter Cell, which still looks pretty great, is just a very polished 720p version of the other platform versions, all of which use the Chaos Theory engine, which was built using UE2. aaargh. multiplatform development always sinks towards its lowest target platform, which in many cases is still the decrepit ol' PS2.
kincaide
26/10/06 @ 14:56
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I'm with you Yossarian - Wii FTW!
DrDamn
26/10/06 @ 14:57
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For those that seem to have missed it, both FIFA and ProEvo are available in a lot of shops now. Street dates broken all over. I got ProEvo at my local HMV for £37.95, even Game had it at £39.99. FIFA was still £49.99.
JediMasterMalik
26/10/06 @ 15:03
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PS2 version FTW then?
thinktank
26/10/06 @ 15:04
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It's like some one has just pissed on the mona lisa.
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26/10/06 @ 15:04
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Krudster said
"FIFA review coming first thing tomorrow.... "

So the celophene will stay on PES6 tonight then...
jonsaan
26/10/06 @ 15:05
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Just a thought. And I haven't played Pro Evo that much. But I used to play ISS religiously.

The new versions always seemed impossble to score in at first. You had to relearn your skills, that's what made it great eventually. Stop whingeing and go and play your football game.
fizzer25
26/10/06 @ 15:07
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@ jonsaan yeah mate it was like that for at least the last 2 versions!!!
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26/10/06 @ 15:09
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"scientist its a forum not a fu**in writing contest ya sad basta**"

Scientist is a forum? I thought he was a human being. You just can't trust forums these days. Writing in forums and stuff, what/who do they think they are?

Edit: Oh I see now! Scientist is NOT a writing contest. Thanks for the clarification, mate!
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26/10/06 @ 15:11
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Played the fifa demo on marketplace and thought it was trash. Was hoping that PES would be the one to opt for. I will not be buying any football game this time around by the looks of it, if developers cannot be bothered to at least attempt to match the previous gen content then I cannot be bothered to part with the cash. And no I am not downloading extra content to bolster the game. I did'nt with GRAW and I won't do it with half finished software. Please take note M$.

And don't think that you PS3 potential owners will escape this issue, you know that they are going to charge you. Mind you by the time PS3 is released in Europe we should have left previous gen behind.

/* saves cash for R6 and GOW.
/* contemplates return to PC gaming.
JediMasterMalik
26/10/06 @ 15:16
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LOL

Still people saying that you have to pay for PS3 online.

When will you ever learn?
pinhead
26/10/06 @ 15:19
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Not your basic membership like LIVE gold but charging will be in place for extra content, and online gaming charges up to the game publisher. Enjoy.
Lonestar
26/10/06 @ 15:21
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So PES gets an 8 out of 10 bumper sticker. How nice.

How a game that has "crippling flaws" can get an 8 is nuts. But then as the reveiwer points out "so many people seem willing to overlook [them] year upon year" As a reviewer, you're in the a position not to overlook them, yet you slap on an 8/10 score that Konami will happily pimp on the game case.


Tha same crap rubber band AI, the scripted feeling of certain matches, after all this time Master league is still a shallow playing experience after how many iterations of the game!?

Reading the reviews make it sound as though it's a 6.

There was a website last year that was very critical of PES 5 and gave it a 7 (if I remeber correctly) and Konami promptly withdrew advertising.

Still, what's in a score (or a franchise name)... ?
JediMasterMalik
26/10/06 @ 15:22
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Publisher's have no reason to charge customers for online gaming, they never have done in the past, with the MMO exception, why would they start now? Exactly...

...And extra content charges are a given, Sony never said to anyone they would be free.
prawnking
26/10/06 @ 15:25
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360 online is shit can't even get a fucking game
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26/10/06 @ 15:25
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Wasn't it like this with the step up from PS1 to PS2 too? Gran Turismo 3, for example, was really degraded when it comes to content, compared to Gran Turismo 2. I think it's because of the time it takes to learn to develop on the system and that the development takes longer and has a larger team.

But I guess we can hope that next years FIFA/PES won't be like this. After all, by then all of the next gens are out, and I have no doubt that developers are waiting for the PS3 to be released so that they can earn some big money on next-gen games. Thus making games more complete.

Oh, and to the guy who said Gears of War looks like a next-gen title. Not to me. Unless you consider better graphics next-gen. What I thought when I saw the in-game action yesterday was "this looks like every other third person shooter but with better graphics". This game could've been done on a PS2, apart from the graphics. And the setting doesn't exactly scream originality, nor does it scream variety. If the game will look like this all through the 10-15 hours it takes to complete it, you're gonna be pretty sick of the setting when you reach the end.

But I guess that game is all about online multiplayer.
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26/10/06 @ 15:31
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The online thing is unforgiveable really. Given how much easier it is to do an online game for xbox than PS2 there is no reason why they can have 4v4 online on PS2 but not on the xbox. I can only assume they couldn't be bothered with the hassle of managing Xbox live accounts for more than one person but that does smack of lazyness there are plenty of games that have done this in the past. Since its all done through the dashboard it should be even easier than it was with xbox.
pinhead
26/10/06 @ 15:32
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"Sony's system will be handing off significantly more control to game publishers, who will be able to run their own game servers as they see fit. Although Sony will be creating a standard infrastructure for the service, with data centres in Asia, North America and Europe, the system will still run over the conventional Internet and publishers will be able to connect their own servers to it.

This opens the possibility that game publishers could charge their own fees for playing games, which is indeed likely to be the case for titles such as massively multiplayer games"

I hope I am wrong because quite frankly the M$ charging model is guff. But someone has got to pay to run those publishers servers, you know EA will try anything to rake in some more cash ;-)
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26/10/06 @ 15:35
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I smell another Lumines debacle - wonder how many add on packs will get released for this? Stadium Pack? Meat Pie Pack?

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