FIFA 07 Review

Going into extra time.

Version tested: Xbox 360

People have every right to moan about the monotony of incremental 'spot the difference' updates. We can understand that the ever-changing nature of sports games justifies a new version every year, but when it comes to FIFA, EA not only takes the biscuit, but waves it in your face, munches it with undisguised glee, dances a jig on the coffee table and runs out of the door screaming with its shirt pulled over its head. Not even counting FIFA Street 2, FIFA 07 on Xbox 360 is the fifth update to the franchise in just shy of 400 days.

Over the past 12, 13 months, we (well, mainly me, to be precise) have had to reconsider and re-evaluate the franchise so often that we thought it might be easier to just collate our most recent diatribes and run them through our newly constructed random review generator. You'd barely see the join. So, join us for highlights of FIFA 07: the 'no really, this year it's better than ever' edition.

In fact, I'm feeling mischievous today, so let's play a little game of "guess which FIFA review was this quote is from". Answers at the foot of the review. No peeping.

To kick off with mystery quote number one: "It's definitely a more instinctive, intuitive and unpredictable game than before, and one that's been tweaked in generally the right areas. With a bit more work on providing more realistic ball physics the game has the potential to become an irresistible alternative to PES, but as things are it's still not quite up to the mark [but it's] undoubtedly the most solid release for some time." Sounds promising.

And which one could quote number two refer to? "[There's] precious little advance - save for some relatively minor additions that do little to address our ongoing concerns... no amount of official team and player rosters can disguise that underneath there's a game that's desperately trying to be as good as its elusive competitor, but failing". Hmm. Not so impressed with that one.

'FIFA 07' Screenshot headless

Behold, the headless footballer.

Quote number three's even worse: "The ball moves seemingly on rails, at weird velocities with unjust momentum, robbing any lofted ball of the feeling of weight. Precision is at an absolute premium. Players move glacially, even the nippiest ones, so that they can be scythed down in time to prevent them reaching anywhere dangerous. The ball bobbles along like it's made of wool..."

We would bring you a fourth quote from the most recent 'current-gen' version review but [mumbles] the review got lost down the back of our sofa. Then we found it again, but it got lost with Rob's baggage somewhere in Tokyo. It was good - certainly the best on the PS2 or Xbox in every way. But, to be completely honest, with the 'next-gen' 360 version following a few weeks later, there was always the temptation to hold out and play it side-by-side with PES to see how the two heavyweights measured up. Besides, our doctor advised us to play up to four FIFAs in any one year. Something had to give.

Ploughing endless hours into trying (in vain) to 'master' PES6 before reviewing FIFA is an experience comparable with brushing your teeth and then glugging on fresh orange juice. Your palette is so shocked and confused that there's inevitably that involuntary 'wince period' while your brain tries to work out exactly what kind of strange torture you've voluntarily perpetrated upon yourself. This is exactly why so many PES fans routinely slag off FIFA before they've even had a chance to adapt - because the contrast is initially so jarring, and why year upon year so much petty baiting goes on between camps. Me? I tend to appreciate both for what they have to offer. Neither are perfect, but both have their well-documented strong points - and it's, sigh, pretty much the same story when it comes to comparing and contrasting FIFA 07 with PES6. The main difference this year is that the former is better this year and the latter is worse, making the decision making process over which one to buy trickier than ever.

'FIFA 07' Screenshot socks

Socks appeal: fans of the woolly undergarments will be delighted.

But this year, the simple fact is EA has gone to far more effort than Konami in just about every way imaginable to improve its game. You could argue that Konami didn't have to change much to keep itself top of the pile, but it's precisely that air of complacency that has allowed FIFA to make its strongest challenge ever for this latest incarnation. EA is desperate to woo the PES crowd and win back the critics, and it's in evidence everywhere you look.

Let's start with the ball physics - an area FIFA has woefully lagged behind PES for years, and a major reason why PES has been at the top of the pile with millions of players for so long. In simple terms, EA reckons it has finally "freed the ball from the constraints of a traditional animation engine" which affords the ball "its own unique physical properties". For once, it's not spurious marketing spin - within seconds you'll notice that the ball does feel like it's not tethered to your foot, allowing for real weight to be placed on passes and crosses in a way that simply wasn't convincing before. You'll start to dink passes where you want them to go, loft passes over onrushing opponents into space, feed players down the wing and gain an understanding of roughly where the ball will end up within a few games. You'll start to appreciate the PES-like way that the ball bobbles off players in a crowded penalty area and adapt your game accordingly. Sometimes it's not pretty, but then a crowded penalty box rarely is. The dynamic way the ball reacts to collisions with various parts of the body (and the force behind the clearance or shot) means you can never quite be certain what will happen. The ball could bobble off the despairing keeper and roll nicely into the path of the onrushing forward - with the resulting shot quite capable of cannoning off both posts and back into open play before eventually dribbling off the stranded defender's arse into the net. Such situations are common in FIFA 07. The key word throughout is it's dynamic.

Other such choice adjectives that fit nicely with 07 are 'smooth' and 'fast'. Coming to this version after PES, it's striking how much faster the game feels, and after a couple of years of relatively sluggish FIFAs, the change of pace is very welcome indeed. Not only do the players move comparatively faster than PES, but their animations are perhaps the most fluid ever seen in a football game. There's a real sense of momentum - not just in terms of when they run, but the way they turn and shift their weight when setting off on an attacking foray, or the way they react to being jostled for possession or get their stride disrupted by the trailing leg of a mistimed sliding tack before building up into a sprint down the channel. The way they jump for headers, the ways the ball's plucked delicately off the toes of an onrushing forward all look more convincing than ever.

'FIFA 07' Screenshot slime

The slime's gone this year, but the likenesses are the least impressive for some time.

A lot of what's impressive about FIFA 07 are little touches, but they contribute to not only making the game look far more realistic than ever, but play a much better game of football than it ever has done in the past. Stood side by side, FIFA has always been the flashier-looking game than PES, but PES players always took comfort that the glitz didn't really translate into substance. This year, it's different. The character models don't just look better now, they move better - the animation is an absolute revelation, with extremely smooth blending and transitions that make it the most authentic looking football game. Going back to PES feels downright weird after playing FIFA 07 - not just because of the relatively old school character models, but because of the way the outfield players move around with an unnatural crab-like sideways shuffle when not in possession. So, without a doubt, FIFA is a far smoother, faster feeling football game than PES6, no question.

Whether it's the more entertaining game of the two... Well, that's a far more complex issue that depends a lot on what you want from a football game.

The way FIFA handles fundamental manoeuvres like 'pressing' and through balls feels frustratingly ineffective. In theory, you'd expect to be able to split defences and feed wingers with deftly weighted balls, but FIFA 07 is nowhere near as intuitive in that respect. In fact, unless you're plain lucky, a through ball down the middle will almost always be instantly handing possession back to your opponent, while balls down the wing are annoyingly hit and miss. The passing system lets you dictate how far the ball will go depending on how long you hold the button down, but in terms of fluid intuitiveness it doesn't hold a candle to PES. It may simply be a learning issue, and maybe I'll 'get' it in time but even after a solid week, my passing game never seemed to click properly, with passes consistently missing their mark.

Getting possession back, too, can be a real chore. In theory, simply pressing A to apply pressure or a press tackle instructs your nearest man to harass and closely mark the player on the ball. According to EA's own literature "the defending player will tackle as soon as the opportunity presents itself" which is as woolly a definition imaginable. Apparently, the player is supposed to automatically track the ball, meaning you don't need to apply a specific tackling direction, but it's an instruction which appears completely inconsistent - sometimes working a charm, other times seeming to be a completely ineffective means of wrestling back possession.

Beyond that you can resort to pressing B to call upon the 'secondary press' which calls a second player to help close down the player, but, again, two of your players will stalk a zig-zagging player for half the length of the pitch and still be unable to get a decent foot in most of the time. Other times it works well, and it's this inconsistency which makes FIFA sometimes a mite more frustrating than PES. In PES you'll stand a much greater chance of succeeding with pressing, and that makes you learn how to double tap RB at the right time to get extra space, and shield in tight situations. FIFA makes it easier for the attacking team to smuggle the ball through and go on snaking runs, but when you're the defending side it can feel like the game's not giving you a fair fight.

'FIFA 07' Screenshot hopkins

What's Jimmy Hopkins doing here?

As for sliding tackles... don't even bother. Whereas PES 6 lets you block tackle quite effectively with timely ground-based interceptions (which allow you to 'scoop' the ball off the opposition's toe when you're running alongside them, too) and lets you off with yellow cards if you tackle from behind (most of the time), FIFA is a different story altogether. EA's handling of the dreaded sliding tackle is not only far less flexible, but hands out straight red cards for the most innocuous trip in non-threatening parts of the pitch. In addition, rather like PES5 you'll constantly find yourself penalised with free kicks for the crime of merely pressing opponents (something fixed in PES6, incidentally), which essentially neuters the whole process of regaining possession. It's a strange non-contact sport that gets a bit exasperating after a while and leaves you unable to give a true physical response to your opponent's attacks. While this isn't such a big issue with the AI, played against the less forgiving human player the ref is constantly breathing down your neck for the most trivial misdemeanours and it's difficult to work out the parameters of what you can and can't do. In summary, a slightly broken tackling system and harsh refereeing contribute to spoiling some of the core facet of a very promising game.

The sprinting system, meanwhile, is a damned sight more effective than previous FIFAs, and in some senses more effective and therefore less frustrating than PES this year. For a start, wing play is noticeably more effective here when you feed someone like Robben down the left, and makes for a an exciting, free-flowing game with plenty of crossing and goal mouth incident as a result. Tied in to the two-tier fatigue system, you get a handy visual indicator of your player's long and short-term fatigue. For example, a player will recover quickly from a quick dash, but gradually lose energy the more you punish them with a high tempo game. Similar in a sense to PES' less visible system, there's a definite benefit to being able to see exactly how fit your player is at any given time. In terms of actual pace, FIFA's sprinting system is much more like PES5 in being able to outpace your opponent, and I have to admit I much prefer it this way.

'FIFA 07' Screenshot metatarsal

Moments before the latest metatarsal incident.

Shooting, meanwhile, feels slick and intuitive, not to mention spectacular. Shots connect with real venom and purpose, and you can enjoy some hugely satisfying moments when things come off. Allied to the rather wonderful animation system and some decent ball physics, you get a much better sense that the body parts properly connect - and you don't need the replays to confirm that. Certainly, the new high-def FIFA on a big screen is one of the most visually stunning sports games yet, and the benefit of being able to see the precise animations of relatively small players is enormous. On the other hand, it's a mite annoying to have to remember to press RB to perform what EA terms the 'finesse' shot. In other words, it guarantees accuracy at the expense of power. As with PES, EA can't resist loading up FIFA with so many modifiers and combos that your head's spinning with the control options available to you. Several years on from the introduction of the 'trick stick', it still doesn't feel remotely natural to reach over to the right stick when you receive the ball and then go back to the buttons and switch back, loose off a shot while holding RB just to stand a better chance of getting a shot on target. As an aside, can we not go back to basics and refine these bloated control systems? Less is more.

In so many areas FIFA 07 gets things absolutely spot on. The online play, for example, is streets ahead of PES6's lag-ridden farce and makes it instantly the preferable choice if you intend to spend most of your multiplayer time on Live, with results logged and mailed to your real-life inbox. But even then, EA manages to do strange things like not allow you to replay your last opponent without re-inviting them from scratch.

As is the case with every FIFA, the presentation side of the game is mostly superb - as it always is - but it's not the definitive article that we were hoping for. For example, you might be a little perturbed to find that a mere six leagues made it into the game, which amounts to a mere 117 clubs. Compared to previous FIFAs this is a paltry amount (no Championship for starters), and with some questionable player likenesses this time around, you might baulk at some of the next-gen corner-cutting that has ensured that the game has shipped with a fraction of the content that you might expect.

'FIFA 07' Screenshot norwich

No Norwich players you say? No sale!

There's also the question of achievements. Whereas PES6 dishes out points almost for free, FIFA 07 has some ludicrous requirements, such as 50 wins in a row, or 50 man of the match awards as a defender and so on. Put it this way, you won't be mining this FIFA for cheap points like the infamous World Cup edition, and focusing on rather arbitrary goals it gives less incentive to explore the other single-player modes - such as the rather basic (but nevertheless entertaining) Manager Mode. Would it have really taken much effort to throw in a few achievements based on, say, winning the league, cup or promotion?

FIFA 07 is without doubt the hardest game in the series I've ever had to assess, because in so many fundamental ways it kicks PES off the park, yet there appear to be an equal number of similarly crucial things that PES still does better than FIFA. Both play a great game of football, but it's no longer a clear-cut decision to recommend one over the other. If you could fuse the pace, excitement, licensing, online play, presentation and free-flowing accessibility of FIFA with the solidity of PES' peerless AI, satisfying tackling and spot-on passing game we'd have the perfect football game. Sadly, there's major room for improvement in the pair of them.

FIFA 07's technological superiority will definitely go a long way to providing the wow factor that's needed to tempt the next gen punters, and its initial fast, exciting accessibility both off and online is something many of us have been crying out for. But as much as we wanted to hail EA's proactive progressive approach to FIFA as the great slayer of Konami's complacency, the fact remains that PES6 is marginally the better game in ways that matter.

Next year might be a different story. Watch your back, Konami.

8 / 10

How did you do?

  • Quote 1 - From our 7/10 review (28/4/2006) of the horribly titled 2006 FIFA World Cup Germany on Xbox 360.
  • Quote 2 - From our 7/10 review (30/9/2005) of FIFA 06 on Xbox.
  • Quote 3 - From the legendary 2/10 review (28/11/2005) of FIFA 06: Road to the World Cup on Xbox 360.
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  • ecureuil #1 5 years ago

    PES6 is still better. >_>

    Probably.
  • HappyTreeFriend #2 5 years ago

    First! Ummmm....wait....

    Dammit....!
  • Placebo #3 5 years ago

    After a number of years in love with PES/WE I have to say that my personal opinion is that Fifa07 is the better complete package than PES06.
  • morriss #4 5 years ago

    Right. PES it is then! Cheers Kris. :)
  • Eighthours #5 5 years ago

    For the first time ever, I'm being forced to buy (and actually keep) both. Each will sort me for my different footballing needs!

    Kudos to EA for trying this year. A thousand curses to Konami for being so complacent. Let's hope that Konami can fix their appalling Live mode, otherwise FIFA may actually end up getting more of my time. Which would be unthinkable.
  • #6 5 years ago

    Yeah, actually thinking of picking this up too!

    It's not like me really :/
  • Pac #7 5 years ago

    Great reviews guys but I am still not sure which to buy.

    I recently traded in FIFA WC hoping that PE6 would kick it out of the park.

    Might have to go with FIFA if it has the best online options.

    I also prefer footy games where it easier to score as I'm still crap.
  • lennon #8 5 years ago

    What footballing needs has Fifa addressed that PES hasnt Eighthours? I usually end up buying both and Fifa goes back so this year I decided PES only. Should I rethink this policy?
  • deem #9 5 years ago

    I think I need to sit down.
  • Chewy #10 5 years ago

    @PAC - I'm crap, no I'm worse than that, I'm pathetic!

    So, I presume FIFA is easier to pick up and play?
    Edited by 1 at 27/10/06 @ 13:20
  • Eighthours #11 5 years ago

    What footballing needs has Fifa addressed that PES hasnt Eighthours? I usually end up buying both and Fifa goes back so this year I decided PES only. Should I rethink this policy?

    From what I hear, it seems that FIFA caters better for the online crowd this year, as well as having a lot more glitz and glamour (and of course the licenses) than PES, and also plays a decent game of football.

    PES still plays a better game, but is hamstrung by the execrable presentation, online functionality and general whiff of amateurism surrounding everything but the main match itself.
  • Ceatlan #12 5 years ago

    I really really struggled to score in the demo version of this. I got into good positions in the box lots of times, but the number of times the player shot nearer the corner flag than the goal really wound me up.

    I also agree with other people views about the controls in these games getting too complicated. I mean games taht allow you to achieve far more complicated actions, manage to cope with the using no more than the 4 face buttons, why can't a football game. No double presses, no combinations, just simple controls that allow complicated out comes.

    Edited by 1 at 27/10/06 @ 13:25
  • Clive_Dunn #13 5 years ago

    I'm going FIFA I think, I just want fun game online with my mates. Can't quite understand why Konami can't provide that.
  • lennon #14 5 years ago

    Ok so how close to the Marketplace demo is the final game of Fifa because that was attrocious?

    If it wasnt a fair representation then I may just have to go with both again :)
  • Furbs #15 5 years ago

    Ceatlan - the shooting has been tweaked since the demo. You still get the odd "how the hell did he spoon that?" moment, but its the same with PES.

    Bit harsh to condemn FIFA for overcomplicating things - they've got rid of the skill stick entirely and its only really the lofted throughball and finess shot which really need a combo. Otherwise its single button presses all the way.

    I've gone for both on the basis that FIFA is the pickup and play one and PES is when I want to play a more strategic game.

    One thing that didnt get a mention in the review which is worth pointing out - for the first time in any FIFA I can remember you can place your players in the tactics screen. Not at PES levels of depth, but its something they've needed to add for years. And the RB "stepup for offside" feature is genius.
  • bavelb #16 5 years ago

    Not putting in weeks time to "learn" a footie game. Got other games to play as well, so FIFA it will be this year. Hope Konami can get their act together for enxt year.
  • Turrican #17 5 years ago

    I knew it, they gave both 8/10. Yesterday's PES6 score looked like a definite leveller to give Fifa the same. Still, I have to say I enjoyed both reviews greatly, and I think Fifa 07 has won the battle for my £40 this year.

    Going forward, PES7 will have the larger scope to improve, wheras Fifa will just need to sort out some of their finer AI/tackling routines to make the game great.
  • Super_Zee #18 5 years ago

    Always been a die hard PES fan and couldn't wait to have it running on my 360.

    But now very confused. Still can't imagine converting to FIFA after demo.

    Any word on quality/features of PES6 on PSP?
    Edited by 1 at 27/10/06 @ 13:35
  • Talha #19 5 years ago

    Face it: Both games are great.

    Although EG's choice of photos accompanying the headlines is rather clever, and sums up the reviews perfectly!
  • tinocat #20 5 years ago

    I'm really enjoying PES6 on the 360, but then I'm the type of player who speeds
    through menus just to get to the game itself. If all you're after is a great game of
    computerised footie then give PES6 a go.
  • Furbs #21 5 years ago

  • El_MUERkO #22 5 years ago

    "If you could fuse the pace, excitement, licensing, online play, presentation and free-flowing accessibility of FIFA with the solidity of PES' peerless AI, satisfying tackling and spot-on passing game we'd have the perfect football game. Sadly, there's major room for improvement in the pair of them."

    QFT

    if only :(
  • Psychopompus #23 5 years ago

    Does the final FIFA 07 play the same as the demo?
  • foamy #24 5 years ago

    The '6 leagues only' doesn't bother you? The gameplay in FIFA 07 is awesome, but when I knew that there were only going to be 6 leagues, I kept looking at the monitor thinking why the heck they had done that.

    Oh well.
  • Darren #25 5 years ago

    I bought both games and I'm glad I did! Both games are excellent but neither are perfect. I'd have hated to have had to choose just one of them.
  • krudster #26 5 years ago

    Lucky you Slurpy J!
  • Martin_feltches_men #27 5 years ago

    Its going to be the same old story. PES will play better, no matter how good FIFA looks. Its not that im biased, i just want to play the best game of footy on a console. We have been through this time and time again. Im getting into PES6 360 now...managed 4 goals in one game on level 4...wow! FIFA will be turning up shortly, where no doubt, ill marvel at the graphics for one game, wish they were in PES, think its rubbish to play and then turn it off. Every year i listen to how its got better and listen to my mates (that dont want to play as Tradbricks) go on about FIFA. Its the same wolf bait every year. Jesus! ive been doing this since FIFA93!!Cant wait for WII version...how the hell am i going to play that!!
    Edited by 1 at 27/10/06 @ 13:59
  • lennon #28 5 years ago

    Not noticed too much lag in PES 6 so far unless you count the hours it takes to get into a game as lag :)

    No Championship teams! Hmm that has certainly put a slightly more negative slant on that score.
  • Fatnick #29 5 years ago

    "I kept looking at the monitor thinking why the heck they had done that. "

    Fifa 08
  • Lonestar #30 5 years ago

    I think the caption pictures on the main page of Rooney celebrating (Fifa) and a player holding his head in despair (PES) sums up this years football games.

    "PES' peerless AI" Guffaws (!) Oh, that one's going in a Christmas cracker. Overall a very good informative review , the only downer being the tackling it seems.

    I haven't played a Fifa since World Cup 98 and I really can't be arsed going through the buyers remorse of PES 6 so I'm Fifa bound this time, either on the PC PS2 or Xobx (probably PC).

    A couple of questions to those familiar with Fifa:

    1. Any significant differences between PC, PS2 or Xbox ?

    2. In order to acheive the best gameplay what options should I select / deselect ?

    Cheers.
    Edited by 1 at 27/10/06 @ 14:11
  • weaselrat #31 5 years ago

    JUst like I said, Soooooo glad I sent FIFA back and kept Pro evo
  • Furbs #32 5 years ago

    Bear in mind the PC/PS2/Xbox1 version is a totally different game to the 360 version.

    Personally I prefered the Xbox version out of the current gen, it just ran a bit smoother, but the PC version isnt bad at all. I would imagine if online is your thing, you'd find more players on the Xbox version, but there really arent significant differences between the three current gen versions. Obviously if you get the PC version though, have a good pad.
  • deem #33 5 years ago

    The main thing you need to know is that 360 Fifa is so different to PC/PS2/Xbox Fifa that they may as well be different games all together.
  • deem #34 5 years ago

    beaten to it.

    You can't possibly have played the PS2/xbox/PC versions if you think that they are crap frod.

    If you have, then you don't like football games.
  • Sabre #35 5 years ago

    How's the GameCube version? (yes there is one)
  • thehat #36 5 years ago

    So, Kristan or Tom, if you could only buy one?
  • Feanor #37 5 years ago

    QUESTION:

    Can you save replays in FIFA for the 360??
  • trudgian #38 5 years ago

    Got bored of pes6 on 360 yesterday in about 3 games, it's just a 3 year old game running at a higher resolution. Sold PES to a mate and bought FIFA instead and I've got to say the fluid animations and weighted passing really make FIFA07 stand out when put alongside PES6. The last FIFA i bought was '97, it only took EA 10 years to regain my custom. Going along those lines I'll be playing NFS again in 2009.
  • nickthegun #39 5 years ago

    The differences do seem to be almost entirely down to personal preference and whichever one you are used to now.

    While I was buying my sushi in tescos, the guy in front of me dropped nearly 80 quid on both of them. Guess he couldnt call it, either......
  • TonyBlair #40 5 years ago


    @Manic Miner

    "The more of this years FIFA vs PES stuff I read, the more I wonder if people have really understood what has changed in PES this time around.

    The big BIG change in PES is the way it handles high speed dribbling. You can no longer simply hold the shoulder button and expect your player to run around at top speed with the ball. In this years PES, if you want the players to run with the ball like they used to, you have to repeatedly tap the left stick in the direction you are running, to push the ball further ahead. Otherwise you get a slightly quicker version of the "close dribble"

    Now, I'm not saying this is necessarily a good thing, but it does explain why a lot of people are finding wing play and through balls in PES to be much, much less effective than they used to be.

    If anything, this year the differences seem more pronounced than ever. Fifa is more accessible in it's own right, and PES has become overwhelmingly complex to new players. Between the two of them, the casual/hardcore gap must surely be a chasm by now :) "

    Well put dude this review reminds me of a geeky GAME (overpriced) assistants advice does he know what he is on about or is he away in a world of warcraft.

    My advice got PES you need to master it there is still an art to it even tho Konami need a huge slap in the face for XBL woes and editing things and others but at least they are working on it EA would tell me to screw.

    First time out for Seabass on 360 and the comforts of a dualshock are showing but if you work on your game PES still holds the magic but not for those who shirk a challenge but he is apparently working with m$ on new controllers

    USB dualchock adaptor for 360 now that would be cool can't see it somehow

    Buy FIFA I say treat my words like those of a tosser! easy to score proper names and less lag for me :)
  • Furbs #41 5 years ago

    You type like that and are complaining about the level of ignorance shown by a Game employee? I can only assume they rejected you on the basis of not being able to understand a word of your CV.

    Feanor - nope, no replay save in FIFA 360 :( Its a conspiracy.
  • deem #42 5 years ago

    What the hell did that TonyBlair stuff mean?
  • Furbs #43 5 years ago

    I think it means its halfterm.
  • TonyBlair #44 5 years ago

    I don't need CV I am the BOSS

    Good to know I would be rejected for GAME and Eurogamer if things got bad...

    Still McD's I will ask when I drive thru with the kids Saturday Morning

    Enlgish Lit waas never my main aim Maths my friend English Lit is only good if you write the likes of Harry Potter and other yawnfests

  • TonyBlair #45 5 years ago

    PS sorry for typo's got a job to do...
  • lennon #46 5 years ago

    Actually he might be the real Blair. Anything sensible that comes out is always written for him. :)
  • TonyBlair #47 5 years ago

    Yes Yoko!

    Wanna Job?

    Post your CV come impress me!

  • lennon #48 5 years ago

    Not with your government I dont no.

    Is it hard to type with a broom in one hand? :)
  • jimbob101 #49 5 years ago

    Screenshots are almost useless unless they show the game as it;s played.
  • TonyBlair #50 5 years ago

    Shame we already have service cleaning company and your still using a broom still are you cheap a foreign migrant? we have posting vacancies that need filling rather quick and no you don't have to lick the stamps we do have machines.

    Think about it progression does have its rewards

  • lennon #51 5 years ago

  • l_p_4_7 #52 5 years ago

    TonyBlair: "Education, Education, Education!"
  • LoftusRoadRunner #53 5 years ago

    Bought both and for now...FIFA 2007 on the old Xbox remains supreme (bought that to keep me happy till these were released.

    Both 360 games seem decent to me, PES very similar to last year, FIFA interesting - got to get the hang of it yet.

    Main gripes - is it NOT posssible to use the direction pad rather than the left stick to control player direction in the 360 version of 360? I'm finding the stick an complete nightmare.

    I just can't create chances against the AI on level 3 (regular) on PES - same as last year - the gulf between 2 & 3 rremains far, far too big. On 2 I can create and score constantly.

    Too early to tell which of the three really is best, that'll come out in the next month or so.

    Anyone know re. the direction pad for player movement on the 360 version of PES?

    Anyone not tried the old Xbox version of FIFA this year it's well worth a look.
  • deem #54 5 years ago

    I'm pretty sure you can swap the D pad and the L stick in the controller options.
  • ilmaestro #55 5 years ago

    lols, neither one is better than Halo!
  • anamenos #56 5 years ago

  • #57 5 years ago

    It's brilliant! No, seriously, it is :)

    Looks fantastic and plays a really good game. I've enjoyed one game of this more than the half dozen or so I've played with PES. It's getting late but can't wait to get a few more games in tomorrow!
  • db3 #58 5 years ago

    The new Fifa engine is a vast improvement....at long last it has feel, fluidity and weight.
    Add to that the usual slick presentation and licencing and this indeed does seem to be "the season" :)
  • viperfoxbat #59 5 years ago

    Looks like EA is getting a little bit more serious. All previous versions of FIFA have not scored as good. PES 06 will more then likely have better ball physics resulting in some curved shots like Beckham can do.
  • LoftusRoadRunner #60 5 years ago

    Online with FIFA 2007 360 version zero lag and I mean zero for me over 3 games..it ran as smooth as offline. So far so good.

    FIFA 2007 original Xbox version still had some lag.

    Yet to try PES6 360 online.

    Still can't find out how to switch the d-pad and analogue around...I only get two controller config options both with analogue for moving palyer and d-pad for on the fly team instructions..is there any way to switch?



  • OhWiseOne #61 5 years ago

    Oh who cares, it is a pimple on PES's arse. Go buy PES and Stop discussing it.

    Get the 360 version, the PS2 looks like 8 bit in comparison, plays differently too.
  • LoftusRoadRunner #62 5 years ago

    "Oh who cares, it is a pimple on PES's arse. Go buy PES and Stop discussing it. "

    Eh clearly you do old boy, clearly you do eh?

  • anamenos #63 5 years ago

    The king is back!
    Fifa for ever!
  • BadDevotions #64 5 years ago

    @rse. I have loved pes over the years and was hanging for the 360 version, but as prawnking says it really does seem to be the lite version.

    curses to konami.
  • anamenos #65 5 years ago

    As i realised i cant express my self.But this is true!