New Xbox 360

By Christian Donlan Published 15 June, 2010

Quieter, cleverer, not much smaller.

Don't call it the Xbox 360 Slim - although it is about 15 percent smaller than the launch model. The complete console redesign Microsoft unveiled at its E3 press conference today isn't about weight loss, it's about refining and repositioning. Microsoft says it's listened to its customers and this is the box they want: smaller, yes, but more importantly quieter, and with built in Wi-Fi.

At a special staged unboxing ceremony in the upstairs meeting rooms of an LA hotel, I got to take a bit of time with the redesign: to prod, poke, and listen for the sound of the drive spinning and the fans humming.

The first thing worth mentioning is that it's an odd looking beast. If the original 360, with its famous "inhale" shape, looked a bit like an oblong holding its belly in, perhaps to impress a pretty passing rhomboid, the new model resembles a custom PC casing given the plasticised equivalent of a Manga haircut. The inhale is still there, but it's drawn in sharp, slanting lines, and the overall impression is that the console is trying to look like several different shapes at once.

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The plastic is nice, though: glossy black that doesn't look too cheap, and there's chrome trim on the tops and bottoms. There's vents on the top and on one of the sides, too: the top is where the machine sucks in cold air, apparently, and that small slatted section on the side is where it blows it out again, using one large fan rather than two this time, for the delight of your cat.

And, yes, it's quiet. Really quiet. In a relatively muted conference room, I couldn't even hear the machine turning on, and even when there was a disk spinning, you felt it through the table more than you heard it actually humming to itself. The drive's still 12x, and the fans are still turning, but the development team has apparently spent a fair bit of time thinking about acoustics, and the result seems pretty successful - at least over short periods of time.

The hard drive is now hidden beneath a slot in the bottom of the machine - you pull on a ribbon to unclip it - and it's tiny - only slightly bigger than an old cassette tape case. (Ask your parents.) It's redesigned, so you won't be able to clip your old HD onto your new 360, but the old transfer cable will still work, and you can use a USB stick to move stuff across too.

The power brick is still present, but much smaller, and there's all the ports you might have expected. USB slots have been upped to five with three in the back and two in the front, and there's HDMI, optical audio, Ethernet, and all the other ports on the original that I've forgotten about. You'll still be getting a component rather than an HDMI cable in the box, though.

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There's one final new port: a bespoke slot for the Kinect peripheral. If you've got an old 360, you'll still be able to plug Kinect in, of course, but you're going to need to run a separate plug to a wall socket to power it. The new 360 manages to power and run the device through a single port.

The in-built Wi-Fi didn't get tested, but it's 802.11n if that means anything to you, and the controller remains the same in shape, but has a glossy strip of black along the bottom and shiny rather than brushed metal on the Guide button.

My personal favourite parts of the new console are the new touch-sensitive buttons for turning the unit on and opening or closing the disk drawer. The latter comes with a delightful microwave-style Ping! too, possibly to please that expanded audience the new device is going to bring to the videogames party.

What there's no way of telling, of course, is whether Microsoft's wizards have put the insides together properly this time. Spokesmen at today's event admitted, a little sheepishly, that they'd learned a lot about building consoles from the RROD years, so there's every reason to hope for the best. Either way, this is an interesting update: a refinement, certainly, but with a little of that charming homeliness which defines the Xbox brand.

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About Christian Donlan

Chris Donlan writes about games for Eurogamer and some magazines. His heroes include Eugene Jarvis, Errol Morris, and Linus Van Pelt.

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  • IonOnion #1 2 years ago

    Looks nice. More PC than console though. Is the HDD still propriety? I only saw pictures of what looks like a HDD caddy so i wasn't sure.

  • Lusterpurge #2 2 years ago

    It does look weird, but not terrible though. Kinda like those pre-built "gamin pc" towers. I'm guessing that it has the funky shape to connect it with the original 360 and to differentiate it from the Wii.

  • metallicorphan #3 2 years ago

    still can't believe they have kept a disc tray

    if i do ever fall for this Kinect thing,i will have to buy the new 360,no way am i plugging another thing into the wall my double plug socket already looks like The Griswolds electric socket for their Christmas house lights

  • Sunyavadin #4 2 years ago

    Not really taken with it. My elite and my original XBox fit together like a single flowing form, one on top of the other. I imagine this would just fall off.

  • lagoonalight #5 2 years ago

    Ehh, that looks okay but really awkward. If the innards are better than I guess it will be fine for people wanting their 4th one. I am no Slim PS3 fan either but at least that was slim. I'll keep my 80GB PS3 and pretend everything else does not exist thank you.

  • eag1z #6 2 years ago

    Glossy black case, chrome finish, touch sensitive buttons, built it wi-fi, heaps of usb ports, quiet fan... kind of sounds like the launch ps3 doesn't it??

  • devilmyarse #7 2 years ago

    Anybody else think it's going to look completely dumb when it's laid down?

  • daz_john_smith #8 2 years ago

    Component?

    When Engadget did their unboxing there was only an SD composite cable in there not HD component cable.
    Edited by daz_john_smith at 15/06/10 @ 05:38

  • Fatallyflawed #9 2 years ago

    I love the new Shiney redesign cos it will now go nicely with my TV and Amp , I will be buying the Kinect so guess I wil have to buy one of these as well to cut down on valuable plug space.

  • Widge #10 2 years ago

    Definitely the best thing from their conference. I've said that I don't really like the design, but it would hopefully address the hardware issues. Certainly puts some thought into whether to get a PS3 slim or 360 slim for the bedroom now. Was hoping it would be cheaper but in retrospect, it is actually adding quite a lot more into the unit (assuming that wifi doesn't come bundled with the 360 still).

  • Miths #11 2 years ago

    Sounds pretty good overall. The noise - fan but particularly drive - was the main reason I pretty much hated my 360 both before and after adding a PS3 to my console collection, and the reason I didn't even consider buying a new one when it died back in September last year (my first PS3 had died just a couple of weeks earlier, I went out and bought one of the just released Slims the next day).

    At this point I'm not really sure there's anything in particular that would make me consider getting one of the new 360s, but I guess a few superb exclusive titles could do the trick. Not sure how likely that is though, in the two years I had my first 360 there was really only one game I wouldn't have wanted to be without, Mass Effect, and since then I've played both 1 and 2 on PC instead.
    Crackdown was great as well, Fable 2 was a bit of a disappointment for me and I don't like shooters enough to really care about Gears or Halo (and isn't Gears on PC as well by the way?).

  • JetSetWilly #12 2 years ago

    Looks bloody awful. That stupid "inhale" makes it look like a damaged unit that's been retrieved from a skip. Meh.

  • fknetwork #13 2 years ago

    Love the new 360! really looks nice, my old 360 is upset now lol

  • MdaG #14 2 years ago

    Time to sell red and buy slim. :-)

  • Dizz #15 2 years ago

    Darth Vader's home entertainment system.

    No HDMI cable in the box equals fail, in these high definition times. I hope they get rid of their crap manufacturing...after the 3d RROD I gave up and got a PS3 instead.
    Edited by Dizz at 15/06/10 @ 07:25

  • Shinetop #16 2 years ago

    I'm sold on everything but the shape. I like the curvy inhale design of the original. Also I'm sad that white has apparently been dropped completely, it blended in so well with my white TV cabinet.

    Although that ping sounds great.

  • SlackMaster #17 2 years ago

    I like it but not taken by the crease down the side or the shiny finish. One thing I've learned having a 360 elite and ps3 is that I prefer a matt textured finish. It may not look as stylish but it doesn't scratch as easily. I'm careful when I clean my PS3 but that hasn't stopped the surface scratching. In then end I gave up fussing over it.

  • muscleblade #18 2 years ago

    It seems to me they have adressed all the faults i found with the 360. Noise, no Wifi and lack of HDD space. This will be the perfect gaming machine imo.

  • LHH #19 2 years ago

    I want one and I'll probably get one. Just need to buy a USB stick for transferring.

  • AphoticCosmos #20 2 years ago

    Looks beautiful, I might have to get one. My 360's getting a bit banged up, and it's only getting louder.

  • Kill_Crazy #21 2 years ago

    Hope there's an option to turn off the ping. I hate it when manufacturers have beeps and pings going off when you press a button. The PS3 is a pain in the arse for it, especially if it crashes as you get 3 in a row and at 3am when everyones in bed they sound bloody loud!

  • Darren #22 2 years ago

    I've just pre-ordered one of these from Amazon. Thought I'd pre-empt my existing Xbox 360... my fifth or, is it, sixth replacement... breaking down. Hmmm... anyway, nice that it has five USB ports and built-in Wi-Fi. Will work well with my NETGEAR DGND3300v2 router which I bought four months ago. I've been using it with the black Wi-Fi unit and it works well with 802.11n giving me mucher faster downloads then before but it didn't match my Xbox 360 which is white!

  • drumbaby #23 2 years ago

    Well if Capcom sell their souls to Microsoft completely and bring a true next gen' Monster Hunter exclusively to the 360 then this will make getting one a good-ish prospect. Until then though....nah.

  • LetsGo #24 2 years ago

    Hmm, so its not much smaller, odd looking shape and still requires a power adapter. Sounds like epic fail to me. I guess at least it has wi-fi....

  • Moonprince #25 2 years ago

    Black Elite shits all over this design. Won't be buying unless my box dies again.

  • sanctusmortis #26 2 years ago

    For the noise alone, I want. Switching mine on now alerts everyone in the house, such is the noise... I can hear it 2 floors up, FFS!

  • Matfink #27 2 years ago

    mmmm nice shiny black plastic = dust magnet.

  • squeakyg #28 2 years ago

    I'm on my second 360 (guess why). If the current one also RROD's I guess I would go out and buy one of these. Or perhaps it would be a good time to get into PS3!

    I simply have to install all games to the HDD because the loudness of the disc drive is unbearable, and the heat that comes from it must surely lead to red rings. So if this new version is quiet and cool whilst spinning a disc, that would be nice.

    Oh, and it would need to cost less than current models. I hate paying "new" console prices 5 years into a generation, just because it's a fancy redesign.

  • kinky_mong #29 2 years ago

    USB slots have been upped to five with three in the back and two in the front

    I know a girl like that.

  • Darren #30 2 years ago

    @metallicorphan - The disc tray might by a relic from the 20th century but I had my launch PS3 die on my twice with a disc inside and I was unable to remove it. At least you can use a needle to eject the tray in the 360 and remove the disc prior to sending it back for (the inevitable) repair. Both the PS3 games I got back post-repair were covered in fingerprints and even scratches which makes me wonder what the hell these people do to them as BDs are pretty much scratch-resistant from my own experiences with them!
    Edited by Darren at 15/06/10 @ 11:19

  • 5h1nj1 #31 2 years ago

    I will be happy when this glossy/piano black era is over. Everything glossy looks so hideous after even a short use.

  • Darren #32 2 years ago

    By the way, will these new machines still come with a three year warranty against RRODs or are Microsoft adamant that these are more reliable this time round?

  • Emmit_Assassin #33 2 years ago

    Well, my 360 is due an RROD soon, so I hope this is availiable with a Kinect before it goes bang. Like the new look, a little strange, but not as bad as it could have been. Like the name Kinect better than Wave as well. Just got back from holiday where I had no internet, so got back this morning to all this news! I'm a bit overwhelmed by it all! I go away for a few days, and everyone loses their heads!

  • Jim_Lahey #34 2 years ago

    At last I can get rid of my hacked component cable and use the built in optical port. Looks like another fatty will be making her way into my bedroom.

  • Darren #35 2 years ago

    So someone give me negative feedback for asking a genuine question? Over-sensitive Xbox 360 fan boy... much?

  • captainrentboy #36 2 years ago

    I've managed to justify getting one.
    Trade my old one in for Ģ100.
    No doubt it'll be bundled with Crackdown 2 for free in Game, which I was going to buy anyway.
    Staff discount on new machine.
    So really it's only costing me Ģ40..... That's how I'm putting it to my Fiancee :)
    Like someone else said, it's not too bad looking standing up (IMO) but once it's laid horizontally and is placed in a AV unit you can't see bugger all anyway.

  • Hypercube #37 2 years ago

    Well, I still prefer the look of my red RE5 Elite over this - it's a bit too 80's evil sci-fi character for my tastes.

    Still, quieter is always good. And these electronic doohickeys just don't last as long as they used to, these days.

  • brseg #38 2 years ago

    The original xbox is way too noisy, a bit of an engineering fail in that regard, I remember being shocked when I first fired mine up. New one looks pretty good, a mix of black wii and ps3 slim. Surprised at needing the power brick, which still looks rather big from the e3 video I saw. Finally wi-fi and hard-drive as standard, like it always shouldve been. Better late than never.

  • Paulie_P #39 2 years ago

    I still have a 20gb 360 so might finally upgrade with this one.

  • oreillymj #40 2 years ago

    Darth Vaders wheelie bin

  • telboy007 #41 2 years ago

    Is no one allowed to photograph this thing laying flat? I need to see how it looks flat! ARGH!!!!

  • Darren #42 2 years ago

    @telboy007 - Use your head, man... literally! Look at the pictures and tilt your head 90 degrees toward your right shoulder!!! ;)

  • kangarootoo #43 2 years ago

    Not keen on the look, but all the technical improvements are welcome. Hope there is a white version too though.

  • chessboxer #44 2 years ago

    @Supertet

    "I wonder if it still comes with a three year warranty."

    No it doesn't. 1yr warranty. It's printed on the box.

  • Haloboy #45 2 years ago

    It looks like someone took a hammer to it. Something many will be used to if they ever owned previous RROD versions. I smashed mine up in the garden in a sacred ritual. Good times.

  • telboy007 #46 2 years ago

    @Darren - you're my new hero, how could I have been so stoopid. :)

  • danclarke #47 2 years ago

    Horrendous design - Overly busy, cheap looking and tacky.

  • JonFE #48 2 years ago

    I don't care about the design, only hardware reliability and noise levels; although I would definitely preferred a matte texture finish.

    I also wonder if there will be a way to transfer game saves over to this from our existing consoles...

  • JimmyT67 #49 2 years ago

    Great design - very minimal, expensive looking and well built

  • Maldoror #50 2 years ago

    Still scratches discs
    <a href="http://video.destructoid.com/#165121
    ">http://video.destructoid.com/#165121
    </a>

    Edited by Maldoror at 15/06/10 @ 13:12

  • Calgon #51 2 years ago

    Maldoror so will the PS3 or any DVD player if you shake it like that with the disk spinning, what a tool that guy was.
    Edited by Calgon at 15/06/10 @ 13:24

  • Maldoror #52 2 years ago

    @Calgon not true, you can use the Wii like a fucking maracas and it wont hurt your discs. He didn't really shake it, only tilted it.
    This was a huge problem for the old X360, gonna be fun when people are jumping around their living room like idiots playing Kinect Sports Resort

    also, Skittles?

  • Calgon #53 2 years ago

    Maldoror you lying lil fanboy, gentle tilt you say? Watch the slowmo he jilted it enough for the the disk to pop out of position(you could actually hear what happened as well as see it, he completely screwed up to compare that to normal floor vibrations of even jumping around is braindead on your part). No it wasnt a huge problem and I doubt this will be(I saw the watchdog yes but Ive seen enough first hand to know whats what), seriously watch it properly and tell me he wasn't being a tool.
    Edited by Calgon at 15/06/10 @ 13:46

  • telboy007 #54 2 years ago

    Dear MS, why oh why oh why... did those little DVD pad things that stop the disc scratching cause too much noise? FFS... the old 360 scratches discs WITHOUT being moved - I know, had experience of GoW being ground to dust on the last boss fight. This new one better not do the same!!!

  • Maldoror #55 2 years ago

    @Calgon now who is a being a butthurt fanboy?
    Fact is that whatever that guy did, you can multiply by 10 and do it to a Wii, PS2 Slim, Gamecube or any other brand name CD/DVD player made within the last 5 years and it wont turn into a garbage disposal.

  • Calgon #56 2 years ago

    Maldoror you are joking I've seen it first hand with a PS2.

    Edit: If slot loading drives really do considerably lesson this problem(I've never owned any slot loading drives yet so I cant say) then perhaps MS would have been better off going that route, it can't be that much more expensive surely? There's still no need to make a big deal out of it really though, just dont be a tool with it when its reading from the disk(that goes for even when installed to the hard disk because the same is said of hard drives too even to this day, infact its not advised for any electronics devices with disk drives in them).
    Edited by Calgon at 15/06/10 @ 15:15

  • Stop-gap #57 2 years ago

    Wait, wait "draws cool air in from the top"? There's a damn good reason PC cases have exhausted through the upper case for the past 15 years, Microsoft.

  • kangarootoo #58 2 years ago

    @Maldoror

    "you can multiply by 10 and do it to a Wii, PS2 Slim, Gamecube or any other brand name CD/DVD player"

    But the question is begged, why on earth would you want to? Really, who cares how gentle the tilt was? Are you seriously suggesting we should only buy consoles that can stand being tipped around during use?


    A console is designed to sit still, on a level surface, when you are using it. Those are the basic instructions you will find any manual, and I'm not sure why anyone with sanity would want to deviate from that.

    I personally don't give a rats ass how it behaves when jiggled about, any more than I care how it behaves when submerged in a bath. Should I win a pile of cash, live on a yaught, and want to play games no matter how stormy the seas... maybe then my perspective will change.



    And you get uppity when someone calls you a fanboy?

    Straws. Clutched.

  • Calgon #59 2 years ago

    Stop-gap if its lay horizontally where is the exhaust? ;) It looks as though the vents are just above presumably where the Valhalla(CPU/GPU chipset) chip is, seems to make sense in a confined space such as a console.
    Edited by Calgon at 15/06/10 @ 13:56

  • Retroid #60 2 years ago

    It really is as if their engineers took apart a launch PS3 and said "Ooooooooooooooooh....! THAT'S how they did it" in regards to cooling and noise reduction.

    Good show on them putting wifi in the box, about sodding time. I don't use it myself but I know it's an annoyance to other people and there's no excuse on.... well, almost anything *not* having wifi built-in these days.

  • space_ace #61 2 years ago

    they had me at "much quieter".

  • MilkYMoO #62 2 years ago

    Gorgeous looking system, probably the best looking console I've ever seen. It would look lovely beside my ps3, if only my wii was a black one aswell.

  • Collymilad #63 2 years ago

    I didn't like the leaked pic, but after seeing this for a while, it love it now.

    So cool.

    @Maldoror: Don't kick/shake your damn console then, simple? Like you should be doing that anyway. It's ridiculous, how much of an idiot do you look when you pick a piece of tech up, shake it with a disc inside and then moan when it scratches a disk? Or how much of an idiot do you look when you cite that as evidence of bad design?
    Edited by Collymilad at 15/06/10 @ 14:32

  • Soton4084 #64 2 years ago

    I sold my xbox 360 a few years ago to get a PS3 and I have to say I haven't regretted the decision. However, I must admit I've been tempted to get an 360 again to enjoy Mass Effect 2, Tropico 3, Alan Wake, etc. This is VERY tempting, seems like they've addressed all the problems with the old console!

  • onyxbox #65 2 years ago

    Personally I think it's long overdue change. One that should bring some real refinement to a system that 'hardware' wise has been pretty shoddy.

    As a consumer electronics device under the telly it's now on par with everything else... i.e. quiet. and with the features already available in 360 they can make a serious play for the Entertainment device space and not just games.

  • dirtysteve #66 2 years ago

    'only slightly bigger than an old cassette tape case. (Ask your parents.)'

    I still have some tapes, an auld Amstrad pirating system.Oh God I'm old :(
    I'm wondering how much quieter these will be, my current 360 has a 'helicopter taking off' kind of noise, so quieter relative to that may not be so impressive. Nonetheless I reckon there will be a big noise reduction.

  • jambo74 #67 2 years ago

    Watch out version 1 slim 360 buyers....

  • mukki #68 2 years ago

    horrible design... really....
    ok so the ps3 looks like an high tech breadbox
    but the new 360 looks cheap...

    a mat version might look a tad better

    design wise the wii is still the best looking console of this gen
    Edited by mukki at 15/06/10 @ 15:23

  • super_monty #69 2 years ago

    I love the look of the new 360, but if my present 360 dies (number 6) I will not be buying number 7 just too much expense.

  • tossum #70 2 years ago

    Its all very nice and all, but to be honest,from looking at the thing, its just hammered home to me that this generation is far from over. Which I find rather depressing, because I'm bored of the current tech and am getting itchy fingers for the next gen. This is compounded further by the apparant mass migration away from pc game development, which is where many gamers could find solace at the tail end of a console generation, where console beating tech could be had for console beating prices.

  • Badassbab #71 2 years ago

    Well the fact that it's much quieter has me sold. I think it looks nicer too. I'll just have to sell my eleite and the wireless adapter.

  • TaniumZX #72 2 years ago

    reminds me of the olympics 2012 logo

  • StriderRex #73 2 years ago

    Im very tempted for the noise factor, love the 360 but bought one at launch RROD 3 months later, replacement, RROD on arrival to my house (??), sold it bought elite (ironically the one i sold RROD 2 months later, oops!) which RROD a few months later, it has driven me nuts yes but I still love the 360, now the elite I have was the replacement model, has worked by far the longest of any 360 I have owned ( few years now) and Im thinking.. do I want to tempt faith??
    Decisions, decisions...
    Oh and will it work with my HD-DVD drive??

  • WayMucho #74 2 years ago

    Opinion seems divided on this, but I really like the look of it, and the addition of Wifi is handy, as i was toying with getting a second one and this saves me getting a wireless thingy. They do seem to have addressed all of the niggles (i'm sure this will be a reliable peice of kit)

    It's also great that it will be quieter than the old one. Something around the noise level of the PS3 or Wii (oh, wait a minute i don't think i've ever turned that on) is long overdue.

    As someone else has said, i'll be looking for a Crackdown 2 bundle.

  • bad_hair_day #75 2 years ago

    Good news coming a bit too late for me. I got so fed up with the 360's noise during late night sessions that I relocated it to a kitchen cuboard and drilled through the wall for the cables.
    Compromises are having to use wired pads and nipping to the next room to change disks, but hey - not just whisper quiet but TOTAL silence.
    Must get out more.

  • Farzlepot #76 2 years ago

    I'm noticing a trend.

    "I hope this one won't overheat like mine has done twenty times! But it's a shame about the vent, I won't be able to put my Wii/PS3/Blu-Ray player/toaster on top of it anymore!"

    Question asked, question answered, people.

  • SilentNinja92 #77 2 years ago

    Looks nice. Kind of reminds me of the older ps3 except a bit more edgy and abstract. The ping sound, butting and plastic, and the chrome are all the same though as the old ps3.

    Thats not a bad thing though the new 360 looks really nice.

    the only issue I have with it is that if its inder a Tv on a shelf in the stand, how is it going to look horizontal perched on those two outer bits? Plus still having a disk tray is a little annoying and kind of takes away from the really high quality look they had going.

    Nice bit of kit though for those whove not got a 360 yet. I can live with my older version though.

  • Bangaioh #78 2 years ago

    Hope for the best!? WFT, still waiting for a whole new generation of RRODs?!

  • Bangaioh #79 2 years ago

    besides design wise imo this looks shit. c'mon ms, learn from the likes of apple or sony, pull your finger out

  • mizcicz #80 2 years ago

    at first i wasnt impressed by the design...but the more i look at the pictures and unboxing vids the more i like it. the new all black controller looks hot. i think i will check it out. what i donīt get is why so many people are complaining about the "missing" hdmi cable? we all got 1 or 2 or 3 already havenīt we? itīs 2010! itīs better for the enviroment not to put in 100īs of additional plastic items and let the consumer buy exactly the needed additional stuff that he/she needs instead- i got no problem with that if the price of the console is ok. i think 249 Euros for a 250 GB rig is not supercheap but ok.
    Edited by mizcicz at 19/06/10 @ 09:29

  • Quixz #81 2 years ago

    So much hate, anyways getting my NEW Xbox on the 16th YAY for me!

  • waggy79 #82 2 years ago

    Like the design. I will purchase. the end.

  • captainrentboy #83 2 years ago

    That vid link to the proof that the 360 still scratches disc could be the most idiotic thing I've watched in a long time. Made even worse by the dumb fucking yank's whiny nasal voice.
    ''Ohh you're saying I can't pick up the 360 and turn it around in midair whilst a disc is in there spinning round thousands of times a minute? What an absolute shocker!''.....
    The comments beneath are even better.
    ''So I can't let my child walk past my 360 without the discs scratching?''
    Well unless your child weighs 35 stone and you balance your 360 on top of a broom handle whilst playing it, I think you'll be alright :/
    In other news, I preordered mine today. So goodbye launch day 20GB 360, you served me well :(

  • DAN.E.B #84 2 years ago

    Looking at the back it appears they still have no optical input meaning if want hdmi and optical you will still need an adaptor which is dumb. I still want one though.

    They had me at its quiet!.

    Damn you Space Ace!!!
    Edited by DAN.E.B at 21/06/10 @ 09:41

  • briguy05 #85 2 years ago

    Look really nice im sold Im going to trade in my 2nd elite against the 360 slim. I just hope to god they have fixed RROD problem that is still plaging the 360.

  • SniperMadMAX #86 2 years ago

    the new xbox is looking brill also quiet making it better plus smaller also the block power cables smaller thats it im sold even its just 200 pounds trust thats great

  • Bangaioh #87 2 years ago

    i think it looks shit. sorry but I really think it looks horrible.