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Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned Review

Xbox 360 Review by Christian Donlan

16 February, 2009

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Although Rockstar may not be adding much to the footprint of Liberty City with The Lost and Damned - conjuring a fresh island out of the muddy rivers, or laying down a fine spray of new skyscrapers, flyovers, and dockyards - the company has been hard at work building stories; sculpting new characters, fabricating dense relationship networks of cause and effect, and plumbing in a buried system of deadly motives and smouldering resentment. The Lost and Damned's narrative sees the developer on top form, creating an unnerving pressure-cooker tale that draws on the familiar GTA themes of hierarchy, revenge, and going for a drive with a passenger who doesn't mind it when you flip the car at an intersection and plant it upside down in a bakery.

This time it's the bikers who hog the spotlight. Johnny Klebitz has been in charge of The Lost Motorcycle Club while the President, Billy Grey, has been in rehab. Billy's out now, and somewhat perturbed to see his rowdy fightin' and fumin' street gang turned into a (relatively) smooth-running corporation, a truce in place with long-time rivals The Angels of Death, and a new strategy based on lying low and allowing the flourishing narcotics business to bring in the money. It's old versus new, then, and within the space of one mission, dangerous tensions are simmering away between Johnny and Billy, with the stage set for a conflict that could tear the gang apart.

While the tale is simple enough, the telling is brilliant and often devilishly subtle. Johnny and Billy are entirely empathetic leads - the former gruff yet care-worn, the latter gently terrifying, but somehow touching - and their performances set new standards for videogame naturalism. The story's topical themes find time to take in elections, the recession, and the knotty question of good governance, and while there are shoot-outs, explosions, chases, and car-jackings, Rockstar's greatest talent is for restraint - refusing again and again to let the main characters' feud spill over into actual violence, until the sense of impending doom is almost unbearable. The game may revel in an open world, but, once more, Liberty City's citizens are thoroughly trapped: hemmed in by financial imperatives, pathetic addictions, and outdated thinking. Videogames don't often ask you to think of their characters in this way.

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Lead a convoy into a wall, and you'll get an amusing pile-up of grisly biker folk tangled up together. Oddly entertaining.

Yet The Lost and Damned is also a love story, as an unlikely romance blossoms between the player and the game's rebalanced bikes. Insubstantial and often prone to bursts of bizarre behaviour in most GTA games, they're transformed here into road-hugging monsters, lithe and powerful: a brutal mixture of low-riding menace and chugging, thrumming audio. You'll feel part of the gang, too, with lengthy convoy drives spiced up by a mini-game that encourages you to ride in formation in order to unlock extra dialogue, while each mission ends with any surviving team-members levelling up in terms of toughness and experience. While it's hard to say exactly how much help your leather-waistcoated brothers provide during the game's regular shoot-outs, at the very least they create a constant stream of chummy chatter, and are blessedly skilled at staying alive at critical moments.

What Rockstar hasn't been building, however, is a fresh approach for the missions. It's hardly fair to expect the developers would do something so fundamental for an expansion pack, but while the game is never less than a joy to play, with the thrill of exploring a new city gone, the rate at which the company's story skills are evolving while their missions remain largely unchanged is becoming increasingly apparent.

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StooMonster
16/02/09 @ 18:02
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8/10 not bad, almost makes me wish I had 360 version rather than the PC version (which I am rather pleased with).
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16/02/09 @ 18:03
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Cool
miiiguel
16/02/09 @ 18:05
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Pretty much all what I thought it would be!
Excited!
JayPea
16/02/09 @ 18:08
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I'm wondering if it's worth shelling out for the 360 original just to play this. I bought my original version on PS3 for a real cheap price.
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Benno
16/02/09 @ 18:10
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as good as killzone then

sweet
PrivateFloyd
16/02/09 @ 18:10
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contemplating re-buying gta 4 and some points for this.....

not good.....not good at all....
stevetuck
16/02/09 @ 18:11
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GTABore couldnt even complete this game
richardiox
16/02/09 @ 18:14
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Wish they would retrospectively add mid-mission checkpoints to the vanilla game. That one ommission turned the game from a 9/10 to a 7/10 for me, just dont have the spare time to spend 20odd minutes getting back to the one tricky spot where failed previosuly only to fail again thanks to some random traffic encounter.
JayeM
16/02/09 @ 18:14
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Great score and the review seems genuinely glowing.
metalangel
16/02/09 @ 18:15
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How exactly are the bikes improved, then? The NRG 900 was great, the PCJ was almost as good (except for the wholly inappropriate whiny engine noise they thought suited it!) but everything else looked weedy and was slow and dull to ride. Given you're a biker now and your MC rides big cruisers, this is crucial!
BBIAJ
16/02/09 @ 18:19
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Want! Hit me! HIT ME!

What time does this go live? The latest trend seems to have gone from 9am to 10am, shame.

Off topic: Where the Hell is the "out before release" demo for RACE Pro!?

Was hoping to play it before GAME ship it on Wednesday, along with me free car...
beastmaster
16/02/09 @ 18:20
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This and SFIV in the same week

/Awaits 9/10 50 Cent review (still won't buy)
Eraysor
16/02/09 @ 18:23
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Wasn't QUB3D in it already?
TheComedian
16/02/09 @ 18:25
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Seems a bit of a weird score considering the bulk of the review, which is largely positive. Hardly even mentions the new multiplayer though, which is a shame.

I find it REALLY odd that GTA IV got 10/10, and this one got 8/10 when pretty much the only complaint was that it was similar in mission structure to the aforementioned game which recieved full marks.

EG are really screwing up their review scores recently.
miiiguel
16/02/09 @ 18:29
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IMO, review scores aren't an exact science.
Hellform
16/02/09 @ 18:29
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HOW FUCKING DARE YOU suggest Dan and Sam Houser will EVER be in the same league as Martin Scorsese, perhaps the greatest living American filmmaker. Hop off your country's jock, Eurogamer.
SAM HOUSER IS A FUCKING HACK. A MONKEY.
And 'even monkeys can write Shakespeare, given enough time.'
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Darren
16/02/09 @ 18:29
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Wow, an extra 15 hours of gameplay and a decent storyline makes the £13 asking price easier to swallow. Can't wait to play it tomorrow then although I wish it had come out for the PC version too.
Pastici
16/02/09 @ 18:33
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Up Rockstars ass much? That's how the review came across, there's loving a product and then there's loving a product.
TheComedian
16/02/09 @ 18:34
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'How fucking dare you suggest Dan and Sam Houser will EVER be in the same league as Martin Scorsese, perhaps the greatest living American filmmaker. Hop off your country's jock, Eurogamer.'

*most well known living American filmmaker

Don't get me wrong, Godfather and Mean Streets are in my top ten films of all time.
squarejawhero
16/02/09 @ 18:36
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QUB3D was in it already, Eraysor is right.
Monkey_Chops
16/02/09 @ 18:39
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I thought Frankie Boyle was in this? I know for a fact that he did mo-cap for GTA IV. Maybe the next one, then?
Hellform
16/02/09 @ 18:40
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No, Stephen "please take me seriously" Spielberg is the most well known American filmmaker.
Most of Scorsese's films (Departed/ Gangs of New York excepted) arent big blockbuster hits.
But that's not the point.
The point is that Dan and Sam Houser are fucking hacks and will never write anything a sane person would compare to the work of Martin Scorsese.
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damusk
16/02/09 @ 18:47
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@thecomedian

scorsese didnt direct godfather
seasidebaz
16/02/09 @ 18:49
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Hmmmm, so some good some bad points...

Shame to hear that gang wars is back. That used to annoy me having to go defend territory whilst on my way to a mission.
smelly
16/02/09 @ 18:51
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I *might* buy this.. if i ever get around to finishing the full game without getting bored.

Review doesnt mention if the humor from previous games is back? That's what made me so bored of the full price game - it just wasnt as much "fun" and silly as the games before it.
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16/02/09 @ 18:53
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@Comedian

Scorcesse had nothing to do with The godfather. I think you mean Goodfellas.

Anyways I will pass on this. I thought the 30 hours of GTA missions had no variety to them and this one seems to hold the trend. Wish there was something like this for SR2.
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16/02/09 @ 18:55
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Think I will get this actually despite not finishing the main game yet (want to take it slow, got boring at times). Wonder if we will have to wait Half Life 2 like lengths of time before we get each slice. I don't think I'd show the same enthusiasm for future DLC if it took ages to come out.
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16/02/09 @ 18:56
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Had to give in after the other good things said about this... traded in the PS3 version for the 360 one. Judas I know.

*Dithering and shadows on the 360 version are horrid, especially driving under the overhead train tracks, looks very odd*
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16/02/09 @ 18:58
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Fun and silly is more Saints Row, and I m deffo gonna be happy to download this, and indeed should add a point just for being a 'game that could have been sold on its own but is a really good DLC extra'.

Good review and 8/10 is still a fair one taking into mind that GTA4 would have aged a bit by now!! In a sense where many gamers are now more familar and jaded with GTA4 and this brings excellent new angle and regenerate the franchise.
TheComedian
16/02/09 @ 18:58
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So?

All I said was that it was one of my favourite films.

*hopes desperately that he can get away with it*
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kj66246
16/02/09 @ 19:00
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GTA what... GTA is sooooo 2008... :-)
thenastypasty
16/02/09 @ 19:02
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Right score...


Right price...

Now all i need is a spare weekend to play it.
Nemesis
16/02/09 @ 19:02
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8/10. Nice.

Good start for this year; DLC expansions I love em.
caligari
16/02/09 @ 19:03
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Arrrgh - I have my points all ready to go for this - and yet I'm stuck in bloody Leicester for the next two days. ;_;

Oh well - hopefully the hotel has Wireless, so I can buy it via Xbox.com and 'ready' the download.
uglygamer
16/02/09 @ 19:05
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The full GTA game deserved a 9/10. But remember this review is by a different person.
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16/02/09 @ 19:11
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Reads better than an 8 :D But nice to see somebody taking expansion packs seriously again.
Burkey123
16/02/09 @ 19:26
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8/10. Pretty good score and was expecting it. Pity I cant buy it though because I only have a ps3. Ah well, Prince of Persia DLC it is then.
sigmagoat
16/02/09 @ 19:34
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I will buy this when it gets released on disc as the inevitable Goty edition thing. And I will buy it pre owned. MS gets NO money from me under any circumstances.
vegard
16/02/09 @ 19:48
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@sigmagoat

except for that xbox console in your livingroom?;)
dirigiblebill
16/02/09 @ 19:54
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Christ, a Scorsese fanboy. That's a new one.

/takes notes
Liamario
16/02/09 @ 19:55
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Just a question, is this being reviewed as a standalone game, as an expansion, or as a network title?. What I'm trying to get at, is what should we be comparing this to?
rashes
16/02/09 @ 20:01
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GBP 13.60 / EUR 19.20

I've said this on previous posts but why is the Eurozone getting completely ripped off by the MS points conversion?????
GBP 13.60 converts to EUR 15.17 at current rates. What a joke...

That said, I'll still be buying this!
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El-Dev
16/02/09 @ 20:06
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MrED, you forget in the face-off EG said it looked better and ran technically better. Fuck what your naked eye can see, it's all about that frame rate drop nobody noticed.
djronz
16/02/09 @ 20:30
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got bored of gta4 after 22% , why youd want more id never know?
damusk
16/02/09 @ 20:35
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I wasnt bored at 100%, cant wait to play this tommorow.
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16/02/09 @ 20:36
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@dirigiblebill
Only a bloody fool would suggest that the past, present and future work of Dan and Sam Houser could EVER be considered in the same league as the work of a man responsible for films like Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, Mean Streets, and The Color of Money.
At best, the Houser's are barely in the same league as Guy fucking Ritchie. But most of the time, their writing is nothing but forgettable, gimmicky GARBAGE DIALOGUE AND PLOT DEVELOPMENT, HELPED OUT BY ABOVE AVERAGE VOICE ACTING. NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
MONKEYS. THAT'S WHAT THE HOUSERS ARE.
FUCKING MONKEYS.
HACKS.
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miiiguel
16/02/09 @ 20:40
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"some DLC at some point in the future is beyond me."
lol, it's tomorrow. Bitter much ?

edit: scratch that, just read your blurb... it's bitter a lot!
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16/02/09 @ 20:50
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@ Monkey_Chops:

Just read the review over at NG4.com, and they say that Frankie Boyle is indeed now at the comedy club, awesome!

Does anyone know if the additional DLC such as radio, vehicles, TV, internet, and weapons intergrates itself into the main game in any way?

It would be great if it did, just to freshen it up a little.
Thunderbolt!
16/02/09 @ 20:51
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Its a good game I dont understand the review embargo

But giving the delay in downloading the Halo Wars demo (4 hrs on broadband) I better get it started in the morning if I want to play it that night
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16/02/09 @ 20:55
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Hi,
I'd be grateful if someone could tell me When is the free GTAIV online starting as I'm too mean to pay for Gold membership.

Thanks.

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