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Grand Theft Auto IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony Hands On

Xbox 360 Hands On by Christian Donlan

16 September, 2009

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I'm going to miss Johnny Klebitz, the troubled anti-hero of The Lost and Damned. I'm going to miss his weary presence, miss the reassuring outline of his oddly noble nose, and miss his fatherly way with a sawed-off shotgun. New GTA IV DLC means that old friends move back into the shadows while former bit-parts step forward to take centre stage, so Klebitz and his biker gang have ducked out, making way for Liberty City's party class: big-spending, coke-powered low-lifes whose days pass in a neon blur of turbulent excess.

Although the forthcoming episode is called The Ballad of Gay Tony (the comments sections of a handful of American websites already show a certain segment of Rockstar's audience struggling manfully with concerns that their favourite developer might have returned all of its Mickey Spillane paperbacks to the local library and checked out Armistead Maupin's back catalogue instead) you won't be playing as the eponymous night club magnate in this instalment. Instead, the developer has cast you in the more conventional GTA role of Luis Lopez, Gay Tony's trusted assistant and sometime business partner.

Lopez is extremely likeable - he stands in a kind of half-slouch, one foot cockily forward, arms down by his sides like a gunslinger and, compared to Klebitz, he seems distinctly carefree. But it's a bit of a shame, really: if anyone could induce bible belt teens to pick up their controllers and experience the life of a gay disco impresario, it's probably Rockstar, and you can't help but hope the world would be a more understanding place afterwards. I should know: I was deeply prejudiced against anyone with a silly little under-mouth goatee until I picked up Gears of War for the first time. That's the true power of games.

'Grand Theft Auto IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony' Screenshot 1

The Lost and Damned laid on a rock-chick layer of grime, so Gay Tony paints the HUD with a disco rainbow.

The Lost and Damned came with the kind of content and construction that most developers would be willing to push out the door as a sequel, and there's no reason to believe that won't be the case here, but there are also significant differences between the two episodes. As with Bellic's story, Johnny Klebitz' Liberty City adventure was marked by a rather brooding tone. Sure, you could do a wheelie off the roof of an airport terminal while firing a rocket launcher into the cool blue sky, but the narrative at the game's centre was a tense, often claustrophobic tale of betrayal and madness. Gay Tony, however, seems to be something of a return to the knockabout days of San Andreas: it's loud and cheerfully blood-splattered, and even if Rockstar isn't about to let you loose with a jetpack, you feel it might at least come fairly close this time around. So while the plot itself seems tinged with worldly desperation - Gay Tony's up to his elbows in all kinds of trouble, and needs Lopez to keep the worst of it at bay - the pace and detailing is pure action cinema.

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thepiedpiper
16/09/09 @ 16:41
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so guys, i haven't played the other DLC, is it worth purchasing the disc with both on?
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16/09/09 @ 16:41
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"I was deeply prejudiced against anyone with a silly little under-mouth goatee until I picked up Gears of War for the first time"

tell me how!!! because playing the game certainly didn't help me at all, the prejudice is still at large.
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16/09/09 @ 16:42
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@thepiedpiper : That must be rethorical. If not: Hell! Yes...
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16/09/09 @ 16:45
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cheers miiiguel! it wasn't rhetorical, i never finished the main game. i kinda lost motivation to. should really whack it back in and do that. it either started to drag and be not so fun or i grew up. but i don't think it's the latter
Peew971
16/09/09 @ 16:49
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@thepiedpiper - Yes you should purchase the disc. Also the 3 story connect at different points which makes the whole thing very nice.
miiiguel
16/09/09 @ 16:52
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@thepiedpiper : I would even recomend starting with TLaD instead of restarting the main game (then maybe you feel like doing it), as it is shorter and it's really a game on its own. It moves at a faster pace, and it is *mature* witout being "childishly mature", if that makes any sense... (think blood for the sake of it, or overuse of foul language).
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Sunyavadin
16/09/09 @ 16:58
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I own TLAD already and will probably be downloading this, before later buying the DVD once it drops to a tenner, just so I have a hard copy which I know I will still be able to play 10 years from now...
President Weasel
16/09/09 @ 17:10
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"is this even possible?"

Wikipedia says yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90
However there's only 50 rounds in the magazine, so while it has a theoretical 900 rounds/minute rate of fire you can't actually fire 900 rounds in a minute.
AphoticCosmos
16/09/09 @ 17:29
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TLAD is one of the best DLCs I've ever had the joy of playing. It's very well put together, and Johnny is awesome.

Given Rockstar's track record, yes - wait for the disc with both of these to come out.
linea
16/09/09 @ 17:36
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Well I don't necessarily think it's a rhetorical question. I (and several other people I know) felt that the last third of the main game was a bit stodgy and lacking in surprises, game-wise. As far as I recall the game played most of its big hands in the first two thirds or so.....

I remember a lot of very lengthy shooting gallery sections where death came mainly as a result of having forgotten to take out one man who then repeatedly shot you from behind as you struggled with the auto-targeting system, and chases where the blatent catch-up mechanic defused a lot of the tension.

Story, atmosphere etc etc was great of course and everything but some of the game mechanics were less than stellar, i think. Which sort of turned me off buying the DLC in fear that it was more of the same in that regard..... am I wrong?
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16/09/09 @ 17:49
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I don't know. to me the problem with gta4 was... wait. spoilers ahead. sorta.

I think there were too many characters. minor character. oh, hai, you're a new one! I'm gonna go do 3 missions for you, then kill you or watch you getting killed/incarcerated and then move on to the next guy in the tier. the game has an unfinished appeal regarding that, with characters that seemed would get somewhere, but get dropped abruptly. for a game most people say is boring due to many cutscenes, I found it to have a somewhat poor character development. too many minor ones.

then. well. after 30 hours of doing always the same stuff, it does get a tad repetitive by the end, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.
gonna buy the disc when it comes out, that's for sure.
Iain815
16/09/09 @ 17:49
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This is shaping up to absolutley brilliant.

New helicopters is a mega win!
captain-future
16/09/09 @ 18:13
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will buy the disc version then.
Turambar
16/09/09 @ 18:28
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How will this get past the Xbox Live censors?
septimus
16/09/09 @ 18:33
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Man, yet to complete either GTAIV or Lost and Damned... but still want to buy this so I don't complete it. What is wrong with me...

Sounds a good blast though.
monkeywithnoeyes
16/09/09 @ 18:48
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ewwwwwww gays in video games!! disgusting.

I really wish Rockstar had gone all out and had us play as gay tony rather than yet another gangster wannabe. Better yet, i wish they had told the storys from one of the bent cops perspectives..and have us access to a completely different side of Liberty City
frankfurter209
16/09/09 @ 18:48
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More stellar GTA4 content, plus awesome techno-disco atmosphere? How can you not like this?
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tachometer
16/09/09 @ 19:00
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Rockstar will never let you play as a woman or a gay man due to their misogynistic tendencies
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16/09/09 @ 19:59
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tachometer, you know what they say, write what you know, and if the writers are heterosexual misogynists then let them write what they want, no one forces you to buy it.

I'll be playing it on day one though.
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16/09/09 @ 20:15
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Any solid soundtrack or radio updates? You can't shoot gays without a decent soundtrack...
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kendoji
16/09/09 @ 20:34
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I liked TLAD even more than the main game. Can't wait for this.
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16/09/09 @ 20:59
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sounds brillient i enjoyed gta 4 and the lost and danmed and im going to enjoy this
stuarty_2003
16/09/09 @ 21:04
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The picture used for the article on the main page includes a Bono look-a-like...was that intentional?
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16/09/09 @ 21:07
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this sounds fucking amazing
GamerG
16/09/09 @ 21:41
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Cant wait for this Lost and the Damned was awesome and way better than the original game
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16/09/09 @ 22:16
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@Turambar Yeah, because Stubbs getting his cock out in TLAD was censored the hell out of...

Ooooh I can't wait until SVD_Grasshopper gets in here to try and rationalise his adoration of GTA and Rockstar with his hatred of Xbox exclusivity...
Moribundman
16/09/09 @ 22:18
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(Actually, no, silly me... He'll just bang on about how this is inconsequential and thin DLC made by R*'s retarded kid brothers and Agent will be the second coming of Christ, and some French dick will give it 22 and a half out of 20...)
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16/09/09 @ 22:19
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Mission replay? FINA-BLOODY-LY! I played through GTA 3 and naturally assumed while playing that this would be a feature because to be without it seems so stupid.

Nice one Rockstar. It only took you ABOUT TEN YEARS! WHEEEE!
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16/09/09 @ 22:54
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I don't know why but GTA4 never appealed to me, no matter how many reviews gave it a 10/10.

But the DLC... both look superb and more focused. The Lost and Damned looked impressive and Gay Tony looks fun from whichever angle you look at it. I think I'll give Episodes from Liberty City a try...
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17/09/09 @ 00:03
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"Although the forthcoming episode is called The Ballad of Gay Tony (the comments sections of a handful of American websites already show a certain segment of Rockstar's audience struggling manfully with concerns that their favourite developer might have returned all of its Mickey Spillane paperbacks to the local library and checked out Armistead Maupin's back catalogue instead) you won't be playing as the eponymous night club magnate in this instalment."

And the award for Most Tortuous Attempt To Crowbar A Joke In goes to...
Ryze
17/09/09 @ 01:14
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Instabuy.

Mission replay - hopefully this will be patched into the previous missions also.

I've got a ton of saved games where I've tried to give myself access to the best parts of the story.

The Getaway got this right back in 2002 - the movie presentation and story chapters that can be skipped to from the title screen. Shame about their game, though.
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17/09/09 @ 01:33
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The P90 featured in Goldeneye. For shame for forgetting.
Here.
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17/09/09 @ 07:24
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TLAD was great fun. Didnt drag the way the main game did imo. This is probably going to be very good too.
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17/09/09 @ 07:37
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It would be lovely if after the traditional lovely GTA fayre of running, shooting, killing our hero ended up falling in love with gay tony.

Rockstar like being edgy and pushing boundaries after all.
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17/09/09 @ 07:39
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@sargulesh

I already have a perception of your sexuality after that comment sweetie.
fiery_jackass
17/09/09 @ 07:40
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it's easy to imagine that many of the people complaining about "Gay" have never actually had a chance to prove their own heterosexuality.
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17/09/09 @ 07:52
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"I was deeply prejudiced against anyone with a silly little under-mouth goatee until I picked up Gears of War for the first time"

FWIW, it's called a Soul Patch.
commissar\'s_handgun
17/09/09 @ 07:55
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I just hope my scratched to hell copy of GTAIV can work well enough to play this. Maybe I should just buy the disc version even though I already have TLAD.
andywilkie35
17/09/09 @ 08:43
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Can't wait, absolutely loved GTAIV and TLATD
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17/09/09 @ 10:00
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I just finished off TLAD last weekend: I’d played through most of the main missions already, but I finished them and did all the side quests (and even found all the f-ing seagulls) and I really really enjoyed it.



I think the pace of the missions was better than the main game, and the more sensible amount of side quests made it less daunting for a casual player like myself. Also the improved handling of the bikes made it a lot more fun to tear about the city. The parachute and P90 sound ace.



I’m really looking forward to this coming out, my only grumble is that my poxy 20GB HD is full and I can’t afford a new one, so will probably end up forking out for the boxed edition.
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17/09/09 @ 10:18
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@sargulesh: I don't think many people realise you're quoting someone else. Perhaps a few speech marks when you paste the same thing in every article about Gay Tony in future would help?

Can't wait for this personally, TLAD was a great addition to the main game and was probably more fun, so a return to the mayhem packed missions of previous games will be great.
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17/09/09 @ 10:31
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Still need to get round to finishing GTA IV so this'll have to wait til next year when it's a tenner cheaper. Especially as there are about a gazillion other games coming out 'this Holday season' demanding my attention.
Where's my GTA IV/Left 4 Dead zombie crossover mode anyway Rockstar? ;-)
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sargulesh
17/09/09 @ 10:45
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kinky_mong, I was just seeing how many negs I could get :)
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17/09/09 @ 11:00
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The P90 was also in CoD4, wasn't it?

GTAIV only really impressed me with one thing - the city. Apart from the traffic not being busy enough, it really really is New York.

But Saint's Row 2 has done the whole 'fun, whee, kaboom!' thing far, far better.
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17/09/09 @ 11:28
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I bought TLAD very recently when it was made 1200 points, and it really is excellent, somehow combining the utter grime of biker hell with some really fun new weapons and vehicles, as well as the fast paced gang wars and such. It was so good, in fact, that I might be willing to spend 1600 points on the next one.
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17/09/09 @ 12:16
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is it just me or does the front page pic look like Bono?!
Mentalist(air)
17/09/09 @ 12:17
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Saint's Row 2 has done the whole 'fun, whee, kaboom!' thing far, far better

Well, it has thus far. I think its influence was felt in TLAD somewhat, and it looks very much like the psychotic silliness is being reflected here.

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