Eurogamer's Top 50 Games of 2008: 50-41

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Finally! It's the Eurogamer Top 50 Games of 2008, with this instalment taking us from 50-41. Check out the Editor's blog to find out how it works, but in brief: we're wrong. Enjoy!

50. Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Nintendo / Sora / Wii

Keza MacDonald: This is probably my most-played game of 2008, and I'm not even very good at it. It's endlessly, inexhaustibly entertaining in multiplayer, and since moving to Japan earlier this year I've had a huge supply of willing competitors (even if two of them are Zelda-using cheating bastards). We never tire of experimenting with the variety and flexibility of the characters, working out a Kirby play-style and then being forced to adapt when someone figures their way around it with a projectile-heavy Link, or masters Snake's directional missiles. In many ways this is the Wii's best game.

Alec Meer: I really have no time for this. I once played it with the staff of a Nintendo magazine, who all seemed to be trapped in some sort of multi-orgasmic feedback loop for the entire duration, and I left like a visitor from another world. I slipped away quietly when no one was looking, fearful that clothes were about to be removed and ear-nibbling to commence.

Kieron Gillen: It's an enormous temptation to say something like "But isn't it just button-mashing?" as it always gets a rise from easily enraged Smash Bros. fans. I'm going to resist, manfully. Real opinion? Like most sequels-in-a-long-chain-of-sequels, this is about as far away from what I play videogames for as I can imagine.

Tom Bramwell: Man, that's worth exploring. Sid Meier once described games as "a series of meaningful choices". Some are, but others are more about what Robert Heinlein called "grokking" (and it's a good thing I have Raph Koster's book about fun handy to rip his summary out of): "It means that you understand something so thoroughly that you have become one with it and even love it." Smash Bros. is like a tireless communal fight to reach that point. You never will, but beyond a certain point you get the positive benefits of it, and after that you're those guys who are easily enraged. I love them for being there.

49. Mass Effect

EA / BioWare / PC

John Walker: I'm shocked to see this so low. PC bias! Rawr! Eh? Oh wait, it came out on 360 last year, didn't it? It was number eight then wasn't it? Well, I'm still angry anyway, for some reason, about something. A properly good time, this. And the combat wasn't nearly as bad as they're telling you. And it was better on PC!

Ellie Gibson: I was hoping this would be like some kind of videogame equivalent Babylon 5, but I was disappointed. Not nearly enough comedy hats.

Kristan Reed: I never did see the infamous kiss. Dammit.

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Kieron Gillen: It's rare you see a game that enters two Eurogamer Top 50s in a row, and Mass Effect's twin versions are good enough to manage the trick. The PC version was a splendid conversion, and its galactic world-building has a level of class which frankly embarrasses pretty much everyone else. Actually, talking about world-building, this is a perfect time to hold Bramwell to task. When writing about Too Human, I was amazed to find him noting: "Okay, you're meant to be gods, but does this really mean the boss's office should be in a sort of whale ribcage construct with giant sparrow statues suspended over a mountain range accessible only by a magic floating platform?" Why, yes, Tom. It should because that sounds awesome. Mass Effect and Too Human are the two science-fiction games of recent years which make me think it'd actually be possible to write some reasonable fiction in their universes, for totally opposite reasons.

Tom Bramwell: Yeah, not my finest hour, that. Sorry!

Alec Meer: It's BioWare's best game since KOTOR, but there's this unavoidable sense of complacency to it - they've worked out how to do a specific thing that pleases specific people, and are so comfortable in that that they're not as compelled as they should be to tinker with their own formula. It's a fine universe with some characteristically fascinating quests, but next time they attempt this sort of game they really need to tear down some of the older foundations. I know it's the de rigueur nitpick, but really - the guy in the ship's basement who sells weapons to his own superior officer is endemic for how BioWare's narrative and world-building prowess is critically held back by this bizarre refusal to address the core mechanics of their chosen genre.

Simon Parkin: It's the sense that you can set down on any random passing planet in search of a side-quest that makes this universe feel, for once, like a universe: huge, intricate and bursting with mini-narratives. But in many ways it was this promise of adventure rather than its reality that made the journey compelling. Mass Effect is tension without much release. Beyond that, the technical creaks and groans bespeak either a game prematurely squeezed out for release or, worse still, one whose ambition outstripped its hardware's capabilities. Either way, it's a game that points to bright futures amongst BioWare's stars.

48. Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

Nintendo / Intelligent Systems / DS

Tom Bramwell: I get the feeling I'm the only person who voted for this, and not just because I compiled the votes and therefore know I am. Some Japanese turn-based strategy games make war cuddly so they can smuggle you blindfold into strategy and lateral thinking; Fire Emblem does a bit of cuddly (Pegasus Knights are basically plush dolls), but really it's a fairytale. Shadow Dragon isn't the best at this (I preferred the GBA ones), but it still gets you there, and the actual game you arrive at is one of my favourite compositions. Intelligent Systems - ever a developer more aptly named? Oh, id.

47. Resistance 2

Sony / Insomniac / PS3

Dan Whitehead: Apparently I'm the only person in the world who thought this was a really good shooter. Old fashioned, yes, but I enjoyed it more than any other traditional FPS this year.

Rich Leadbetter: One of the best shooters of the year. While nowhere near to matching Gears 2's utter gorgeousness, this still has some moments of pure beauty - the Chimera warfleet bombing the San Francisco bay looks staggeringly good. A first-person shooter lives or dies by the quality of its weaponry and its online modes and once again, Resistance 2 doesn't disappoint. A lowly rating in the Top 50 but I really enjoyed it.

46. God of War: Chains of Olympus

Sony / Ready at Dawn / PSP

John Walker: Do they still make games for the PSP? How quaint.

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Tom Bramwell: I don't think the PC boys get to do the "quaint" joke when we know they're all going to vote for a physics puzzle game later.

Kristan Reed: I love God of War probably more than anyone that writes for Eurogamer, but this was the worst God of War game by some margin. And yet, because it's such a good template to mimic, Ready at Dawn's cut-down cover version for PSP was still a pretty decent game, and, by default, easily one of the best games released on PSP this year. I really wish I had more reasons to dust off my PSP. Even Remote Play doesn't work properly for me. Sob.

Rob Purchese: The brutal and bloody gameplay is so fluid and unspoiled that it deserves a big shout. This should be on a home console, but you couldn't not play it.

45. Bangai-O Spirits

D3Publisher / Treasure / DS

Kieron Gillen: I'm sad to note I didn't actually play this. I finally got into Space Giraffe though when it hit the PC, so I'll claim some shooter cred for that. It'd probably have had it in my top ten if its release hadn't come after we'd all voted.

Rob Fahey: Seeing Treasure's lovely robot lunacy on a console that some people actually own is enough to provoke tears of joy. Now you've got no excuse for not buying a copy, since statistics prove that every human being on Earth owns at least three DS handhelds.

Simon Parkin: Bangai-O Spirits, like its maker, is slippery in the hands of genre. Across the gigantic spread of micro levels it slides unapologetically from puzzle game to shoot-'em-up to Brain Trainer. It's a tussle of delicious contradictions: you control a giant mecha robot rendered as a tiny, ten pixel-high sprite; you set off firework explosions of rocket nukes, up to a hundred at a time, before swinging at enemies with the unsophisticated bluntness of a baseball bat. Then, when the fire and violence clears, you dash around the screen collecting fruit. It takes a while to become accustomed to the structure-less metagame - you can play any level in any order - but soon enough stamping levels complete becomes a collect-'em-up endeavour, irresistible to the last.

44. Mercenaries 2: World in Flames

EA / Pandemic / Xbox 360, PS3, PS2, PC

Rich Leadbetter: A great concept crying out for a decent engine.

Kristan Reed: I seriously wonder which other shooters my colleagues have been playing for this to feature in their top tens. I know I rated it lower than most, but my god some of this was shockingly awful. Blown up by a man pointing an RPG in your face? No worries, just run around the corner and recharge your health and bop him on the nose with a pencil.

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John Walker: Wasn't this really, really average? Didn't this get 5 on Eurogamer? Did something go wrong?

Kieron Gillen: This year's Earth Defence Force 2019, basically. That is, loved by the good, and loathed by boring people who care about things like frame-rate and pop-up and probably are in the comments thread talking about whether Eurogamer is biased towards the 360 or the PS3 this week. Structurally novel, agreeably mental and I knew I was going to love it from the early mission where you have to ride a tiny pink moped while being insulted by random passers-by. Also, your character - clearly annoyed - barking out that he doesn't have an Irish guy who brings him stuff. He wishes he had an Irish guy who brought him stuff! I can empathise.

Dan Whitehead: I loved the original, but found this strangely uninvolving even though it's almost exactly the same. It doesn't help that it's plagued by technical hiccups, but I never thought demolition could be so dull.

Simon Parkin: GTA has taught us that openworld games must tick at the speed of reality, slow-burning stories, brooding descents into violence and trudging ascents toward wealth and conquest. Mercenaries 2, by contrast, plays like an exuberant arcade game, two-minute missions that leave you breathless and spent, its action rolling at double speed, its explosions all Schwarzenegger pyrotechnics. It's brash, twitchy fun and while I didn't finish the game, not even close, the time I spent in it was far more enjoyable than most reviewers led me to believe it would be.

43. Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning

EA / Mythic / PC

Oli Welsh: WAR is its own worst enemy. The amount of fun you're having scales in direct relation to how many other people are doing what you're doing. As players flocked to WAR in their hundreds of thousands, it seemed incredibly dynamic and exciting; as they left in equal numbers - for Lich King, or just exhausted by the game's relentless and shallow focus - it became apparent that Mythic's world hadn't the substance to fill the vacuum they left behind. Still, it's easily the best player-versus-player MMO out there, surprisingly easy to get into, and a great option if you have a little less time to sink than your average massive multiplayer.

Kieron Gillen: While clearly still labouring under the long shadow of World of Warcraft, this is the first game which felt as if it really was a challenger. Not that it was - in fact, not that it could be. MMOs aren't games. MMOs are relationships, and the mass-dynamics of human beings alone will prevent anyone toppling WOW until... well, I think it may just be impossible to topple WOW as long as you're working within the strict boundaries of fantasy role-playing. I suspect even a game that wanders way from the DIKU-MUD tropes wouldn't be able to touch WOW as long as it stuck to a realm of orcs and goblins. And it saddens me a bit that when I start writing about Warhammer, I'm analysing why it hasn't sold fifteen million copies or whatever. I'll keep it simple - if you were going to start playing a fantasy RPG tomorrow, the first twenty levels of WAR walk all over the first twenty levels of WOW to an embarrassing degree (with an exception for the genuinely lovely Drenai starting area), and the people who argue the contrary haven't played that opening section for years. It's a brutal game and makes a few small-yet-significant steps forward in the genre. And frankly, I'd play it over WOW just because you don't have to sit down and eat some food to heal at a decent rate.

Alec Meer: A fortnight of love becomes a month of mild tedium. You've gotten the PvP more than right, Mythic - now please work on making the world itself more exciting and characterful. Fighting only for fighting's sake has a limited shelf life.

Rob Fahey: This is going to provoke howls of outrage, but it was never going to be any other way. MMORPGs suffer in lists like this anyway, because so few of us have time to devote to them - and while WAR is a better effort than most, we all know who ruled MMOs in 2008 (just like 2007, 2006 and 2005).

42. N+

Metanet Software / Xbox Live Arcade

Kristan Reed: More games should feature in the Top 50 that look like they were made on a 16k Spectrum.

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Kieron Gillen: Actually, if you do want to talk about the biases of the EG writers, you're going to have to look away from the console wars - which is, as always, just people in Eastern Europe in 1939 debating about whether it's best if they're going to be ruled by Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia - and look towards the PC. N came out in 2005, people, and was just as good then. God, I'm in an argumentative, disagreeable, trollish mood today.

Dan Whitehead: A triumph of function over form, and a game I still return to. That it didn't make my own top ten is more to do with the flurry of superlative software at the end of the year than any specific flaws in this little gem. Excellent DLC as well.

Tom Bramwell: This fizzled out for me. I loved it for an hour, then that was it. I think the Challenge Rooms in Bionic Commando Rearmed, which got much more play, delivered better on what I wanted, and thought I was getting, when I started out with this.

41. Mario Kart Wii

Nintendo / Wii

Oli Welsh: This might end up played by more people than any other Mario Kart, and you know what? That's not the end of the world. It doesn't toe the line between chaos and refinement with anything like the grace of Mario Kart DS (or even 64), but it's still exactly the kind of solidly-engineered, mechanically intricate, idiot-proof entertainment for absolutely everybody that Nintendo is said not to make any more.

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Tom Bramwell: I think that's true, but I think this also captures Nintendo's shifting focus - whether conscious or not - as well as anything on the Wii or DS. I used to play Mario Kart, including the DS one, because being good at it - wielding it with authority - mattered to me, and other people, like my flatmate's girlfriend, had their own reasons that were just as valid. Now they're loving this, and I'm not.

John Walker: In last year's Top 50 there were a lot of people talking about how only Nintendo seems to know how to make games for the Wii. This was mostly included in people's ludicrous hyperbole for the flawed Super Mario Galaxy (aha! I get to say it and no one will come back!). It's odd how Mario Kart on the Wii demonstrates how sometimes Nintendo can't. Did anyone not immediately reject the wheel controls for sensible buttons and a joystick after their first race? Fantastic game, obviously, but a Wii-as-a-GameCube game.

Rob Fahey: I don't understand what happened to MK Wii. Everyone thought it was great for a week, and then everyone stopped playing. Previous MK games (even the DS one) were party-gaming staples for years, so why was this one such a flash in the pan (and practically forgotten by the end of year)?

Simon Parkin: The width of the tracks is not so much liberating as disorientating. Now you must plot racing lines within racing lines and as the pack scatters the experience is robbed of some of its traditional grasping competitiveness. That said, there's much to love, from the way that, when organising an online race, your competitors' Miis pop up from their real world locations on a globe, to the glorious ghost data challenges that you can send to bait your friends. But Mario Kart has always been a game that pits skill against luck, the premeditated against the random and in Mario Kart Wii fate wins too often over ability.

Join us tomorrow for the next instalment, taking us from 40-31. Or check out the Eurogamer Readers' Top 50 Games of 2008 for an alternative view!

Comments (75) Latest comment 3 years ago

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  • Mugwum Verified Operations Director, Eurogamer Network #1 3 years ago

    I know I said this would start going up tomorrow, but I'm going out tonight and I don't want to forget to do it in the morning :-) Enjoy!
  • zazamak #2 3 years ago

    Im sorry...but how on Earth does a game like Mercs 2 do better than resistance 2 and God of War in 2008?

    I hated mercs 2 and it didnt live up to the first

    resistance was good...not great...but still ...i dunno y mercs is even up there in the first place
  • MisterFalseName #3 3 years ago

    I still play Mario Kart with the Wii Wheel, 8 months on...
  • Climhazzard #4 3 years ago

    smash bros at 50, mass effect at 49, the hells going on?
  • Scimarad #5 3 years ago

    Resistance 2 is pretty much my biggest disapointment so far on the PS3. I still don't quite understand who EG gave the first one such a low score but then praised the sequel. Obviously they thought it was superior but I really can't figure out why.

    Did the first one get into the top 50 of the year when it came out?
    Edited by 1 at 26/12/08 @ 19:07
  • mrmonkey1980 #6 3 years ago

    Because Mercs 2 is fun. What I don't get is Mass Effect. It was much worse last year for the Xbox but I could not get into that game. I loved KOTOR but this had far too much dialogue, the action part was awful and I hate texture popping. I can normally ignore this for the fun factor but ME didn't have any.
  • The-Bodybuilder #7 3 years ago

    You're crazy mrmonkey. Mass Effect it utterly fantasti
    Yes its overwhelming at first, but even I (someone who had never played an RPG before) manage to absorb myself in the world.
    And yes, the action is swag at first with all your stats low, but after a few missions, you because much better.

    Don't even get me started on the amazing story.
  • Tomo #8 3 years ago

    Rob's Mario Kart comment is a bit short-sighted, judging by the EG thread anyway... I'd love to get in on it, but I'm afraid I'd get my arse whipped now.
  • Chufty #9 3 years ago

    Mass Effect was monumental. God of War is possibly the best game on the PSP. SSBB and Mario Kart were awesome games. Do they really have 40 better games to fill the rest of the top 50?
  • gohda #10 3 years ago

  • DFawkes #11 3 years ago

    +1 to Tomo, just because Rob stopped playing it, everyone else still is. If I went by his logic, Halo 3 could be called a "flash in the pan" because I only played it a week - that doesn't mean everyone else in the world stopped playing it, it's just me.
  • roz123 #12 3 years ago

    After reading the first set of comments on smash brawl i am never going to bother with this site again. what a load of toss wank.
  • zazamak #13 3 years ago

    To GALORE

    GTA and MGS4 are obviously not in the bottom 10 lol!
  • morriss #14 3 years ago

    So 2 of Nintendo's heavyweights rank very low. I reckon SMG will be 1 or 2 though. I don't agree at all but I think it will be.
  • Burkey123 #15 3 years ago

    Brawl at 50!! What is going on!? Brawl is top 5 at least. Best local multiplayer game ever!

    Resistance 2 is rubbish as well...

  • tomcamfield #16 3 years ago

    Please stop defending the PC as a games platform, you've been doing it far too much recently and I'm pretty sure you have much more interesting comments to make. (@ whoever in the Eurogamer team made the relevant comment in the Top 50, KG maybe) Also I hope a free game makes it into the Top 50, like a bit of IF, or some flash thing.
  • figaro7 #17 3 years ago

    Just seems so obvious that not many people at eurogamer played with there wii's this year seeing as its best game is ranked 50.
  • DFawkes #18 3 years ago

    Didn't you know Figaro? Eurogamer hates Wii. The majority of EG users seem to hate Wii, because of so called "casual gamers". So much so they just don't bother with proper reviews anymore, they just scrawl them on the office toilets. They make a good read though :)
  • BOFH_UK #19 3 years ago

    Brawl top 5??? You're kidding right Burkey? It's a fun game, yes, but it takes no advantage of the platform it's on, is basically the same game we've seen twice before, is WAY too open to button mashing, isn't really balanced properly and requires a fair chunk of play time to unlock some of the headline characters which is a very cheap trick. The single player is pretty poor and the multi, while fun for a while, does become tiresome very quickly unless you've got an attachment to the characters. Fun for short sessions, boring over the long term, near-identical to previous versions and positioned about right in the chart.

    As for the rest - no major problems there for me except for one... Merc 2. What on earth is that doing in the 40's? It's a great concept but really badly executed and with a ton of A.I. issues and other bugs. Not even the Eurogamer writers seem to know what it's doing there which suggests that maybe there's a slight maths glitch in whatever system is being used...
  • Lawlost #20 3 years ago

    WTF Mario Kart Wii at 41 and Mass Effect only squeezing into the top 50. Are we going to be seeing only worthy games in the top 10 i.e. those that scored well and nobody bought?
  • Burkey123 #21 3 years ago

    @ BOFH_UK:

    When me and 3 other people are playing brawl in the same room, its the most fun i have had this year by a long way. The biggest and best charachters ever and levels for that matter. If not top 5, then DEFINITELY top ten. Its the wiis best game this year.
  • Andee #22 3 years ago

    I thought Mercs 2 was great, loads of bugs/problems, but immense fun. Surprised to see it make the list after Kristan's review though, but it appears the other members of staff have better taste :)
  • bad09 #23 3 years ago

    Wii LOL! Brawl and MK all back of the bus, take that ninty! ;)

    EG, ME is too low there SURELY!!! It was epic, like Ellie I was expecting Babylon 5 but got a superior DS9 instead!!

    Fun read EG that's kept me occupied while Mrs bad09 plays with her pressie from me (PS3 and LBP with a Sackboy figure I BLOODY WANT!!) looking forward to the next installment, and can't wait to see your no1 this year.

    Oh and EG, Dead Space better be higher than 10 in your top 50 or I'm off to Gamespot or some other zoo!

    / shakes fist threateningly at EG, then at EG readers "LOVE dead Space ya bastards! Join the church embrace the faith! You know it makes sense!"
  • Katsumoto #24 3 years ago

    RAR!!! ANGER!

    Nice list.
  • WJRA3561 #25 3 years ago

    mercs 2 in the top 50 games of 2008. Seriously?
  • Der_tolle_Emil #26 3 years ago

    I do have to disagree with Oli Welsh's comment on Mario Kart Wii. It's the 'Wii-as-a-GameCube game' that I think is a bit unfair. Nobody forces anyone to like that game but that statement is both ignorant and wrong (and thus a bit unprofessional for a gaming site). The Wii controls (like them or not) are more than just tagged-on waggle, the online system is better than in any other Wii game (it may be news for xbox fans, but the Wii is the first Nintendo home console to really offer online play) and it even comes with a Wii channel you can install to check time trial times or what your friends are doing without having to start the game.

    If there is one game that truly takes advantage of all the Wii's possibilities then this is it.

  • Sid-Nice #27 3 years ago

    Rob Fahey: I don't understand what happened to MK Wii. Everyone thought it was great for a week, and then everyone stopped playing. Previous MK games (even the DS one) were party-gaming staples for years, so why was this one such a flash in the pan (and practically forgotten by the end of year)?

    Someone has definitely been on the sherry.

    The game that everyone forgot.
  • Pirotic #28 3 years ago

    What a strange list, seems pretty random when compared to most other 'top x games of 2008' lists.

    Mario Kart better than Mass Effect? no frigging way :p
  • GamesConnoisseur #29 3 years ago

    Still yet to see the real picture of the whole top 50, but agreed with the placing of Resistance 2 and it was my most disappointing PS3 game of the year, as had looked forward to it bit much! R1 was better on the overall content and impact.

    Some so called 'reputable' gaming sites have put R2 way above GoW2 in the 'head to head' as said it was the finest shooter of the year! I wet myself laughing reading this 'article', PS3 does have a better year but R2 wasnt the jewel in the crown I had hoped it would be and GoW2 simply have too much of 'oomphs' and most important, the fun factor so think it would do much better than R2 in the EG top 50!
    Edited by 1 at 26/12/08 @ 23:10
  • Daikon #30 3 years ago

    Am I the only person in the world who thinks Gamecube Mario Kart was great?

    Couldn't agree more with Rob though, I can't believe I didn't play MK Wii for more than a week (Guitar Hero, Fallout 3 and Fable 2 are all to blame).

    edit: Oh and people please stop whining about Mass Effect. It's a superb game, but it was on 8 in LAST YEAR'S top 50. Just be amazed it's even in this year's list.
    Edited by 1 at 26/12/08 @ 23:27
  • Cid #31 3 years ago

    BOFH_UK: Smash Brother isn't open to button-mashing at all. Well...it is if all players are doing it, but a button masher will always get his rear-end tanned by someone who knows what they're doing.
  • Xerx3s #32 3 years ago

    Worthy mentions in that list: Mass Effect. That's all.
  • Widge #33 3 years ago

    @Scimarad re:Resistance 2

    Its not so much EG's opinion of the game, its Dan who reviewed it who genuinely liked the game. If I reviewed something and I liked it, I'd say so.
  • xXn00bXx #34 3 years ago

    The rating of Resistance 2, Mass Effect, Mario Cart Wi and Brawl is absolutely disappointing! These games were one of the best in 2008 and should be at least in the top 20.

    Eurogamer top 50 = epic fail

    See gamespot and ign GOTY ratings, much better there.
  • tinni2k #35 3 years ago

  • local_celebrity #36 3 years ago

    As ever, lots of lucid comments from the Eurogamer crew. Simon Parkin was especially impressive. For someone who used to work in a broom cupboard, he's really come along.

    Have you seen much of Andy Crane these days, Si?
  • SFKosmo #37 3 years ago

    Hmmm... Bangai-O Spirits is about 44 places too low.
  • barnard666 #38 3 years ago

    Grea to see mercs 2 up there, would be one of my top twenty for sure, just stupid instant accessable arcade fun, and great on co-op. I got two copies of saints row at Xmas, one for me and one for my girlfriend, I have no idea what the hell is going on in that game....its no Mercs!
  • Thingy #39 3 years ago

    I think the Mario Kart thread on this very site is a testament to its longevity, if thats what you're after.

    And the racing lines within racing lines gimmick is what makes it. You can't just learn the best racing line and win every time. Against a group of top players, you're constantly having to rethnik your position on the track
  • Pinewood_Groves #40 3 years ago

    Please don't compare Mercs 2 to the mighty EDF.
  • Widge #41 3 years ago

    Top 5 predictions anyone? I'm reckoning

    1: Fallout 3
    2: GTA4
    3: Fable 2
    4: Braid
    5: LBP

    Would be really nice to see Valkyria Chronicles deservedly hit into the top 10.
  • RedSparrows #42 3 years ago

    OMG it's like, lists are shit!

    Just like IGN.
  • BillyWilson #43 3 years ago

    If Gears of War 2 finishes in the Top Ten I will lose all faith in Eurogamer!
  • Strifer #44 3 years ago

    EG, and reviewers in general, should be less forgiving about the technical issues of a game. I'm not sure what happened there in the GTA IV review, but if I read that the game is full of technical issues and then see a 9 at the end, I think that something is not right.

    This only really hit home after I played Fallout 3. It was a fun little game, but I could not play it because it froze at random moments for no apparent reason. So I go on the Internet to see if I'm just unlucky, but the issue is so widespread that I'm having second doubts. I like the fact that people seem to go out of their way just to make a new game run, but a game should work on release. If it does not, the review should reflect that and mark down the game for it's beta qualities. I mean, seriously, what would you think if they sold you a Ferrari with a slightly broken engine? It's great, but it may explode at any minute.

    Bethesda is known for their buggy releases. So what? One might think that after making so many open-world games, they would smarten up and squash all the bugs they can before release. But they set themselves a deadline and stayed true to it no matter what. Bugs happen, and there is no way you can get them all; however, when I go over the forums about the problems people are having, there is no way I can be complacent.

    Just in case, I'm running the game at medium details with a AMD Phenom Quad-Core 2.50 GHz, 2 GB RAM, and a ASUS EAH3850. The game looks great and runs great, except for the infuriating crashes. I will happily play the game in a year or so when they finally get it right, but for now I refuse to take part in their beta test.

    So why am I posting about this right here and right now? Because when I read that Fallout 3 or GTA IV PC is the game of the year for many websites, I cannot help but laugh. Maybe of next year, but content should not become an excuse to overlook the technical flaws of a game. How can Rockstar port their game to the PC and offer a sub-par performance on a technically superior platform? How can Bethesda release a fun game that takes a dump on that fun by being bugged to hell and back. And they did not even bother to properly adjust the controls for the PC release - every time I wanted to change a weapon or take a look at something, I cursed slightly when I went for my Pip-Boy. If a game deserves a Game of the Year, it should happen on both the technical and gameplay basis. There is no goddamn excuse for a shitty release.

    By the way, Portal? Game of the Year for me too. A real marvel, albeit short as hell.
    Edited by 1 at 27/12/08 @ 10:46
  • sanctusmortis #45 3 years ago

    For the love of Mike!

    The EG Top 50 is voted for by MANY people OUTISDE of EG. From there, Tom does a (rather sterling job of) compilation of all their votes, adding up the votes and the scores (on what I assume is a reverse scale: 10 points for #1, etc) to get the Top 50. He then does a roundtable of comments on each. The result is what you're reading.

    SO QUIT BAGGING ON THE EG GUYS! IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT THE ROCK PAPER SHOTGUN GUYS HAVE BAD TASTE!

    Kidding.
  • drumbaby #46 3 years ago

    EG in 'not willing to stand by their original review in spineless attempt to appease fanboys' shocker.

    If Resistance 2 is so low down the list, then everything else in the next lot of listed games should be scoring 11/10 at least.

    Meh.
  • banjo21 #47 3 years ago

    @ Mr Baby. This is an 'averaged' scored list of what a collection of folk stated as their top 10 games - see the blog. Its not the top 50 scores from EG reviews in 2008. Nob.
  • dacicus #48 3 years ago

    Mass Effect, definitely too low. Merc2?! What the???That game shouldn't be there.I really hope that Valikyria Chronicles will get a place in the top. It's the game that made me want to buy a PS3.
  • BartonFink #49 3 years ago

    Hmm MK Wii higher than Mass Effect?

    Have to agree with Simon's comment with Mario Kart Wii luck definitely outweighs ability.
    Edited by 1 at 27/12/08 @ 11:10
  • Lujo #50 3 years ago

    Mario Kart Wii!? HIGHER than Fire Emblem!? Someone will PAY!!
  • merkdot #51 3 years ago

    I'm glad to see the Wii title that disappointed me so much that I sold the system shortly after getting the thorough knifing it deserves.
  • captainrentboy #52 3 years ago

    I couldn't even get any enjoyment from Super Smash Bros when I was pissed, with loads of mates around having a go too. And that's the only way to get any fun out of 95% of the Wii's software....
    I thought it was facking awful, and I really can't see the appeal.
    A question for the fans. Is there actually a deep fighting system underneath it all, or is it as mindless as it seemed when I played it for a couple of hours. I was just frantically pressing the main attack button, all whilst looking for that sooper dooper glowing orb thing that gives you a mighty special move. Was that really it?

    God Of War on the other hand was the most fun I've ever had with a PSP.

    Edit: Oh and I'm not THAT much of a disgusting Wii hater. I thought Mario Kart was darned good fun, obviously not that much different from the other versions, but the motion control actually seemed responsive in an arcadey way, and it's definitely one of the better Wii titles I've played.
    Edited by 1 at 27/12/08 @ 12:40
  • Shinji #53 3 years ago

    I'm not denying being at the sherry (rum actually, what with not being an old woman and all), but my comments on MK Wii are being taken a little out of context :) Obviously people are still having fun with it, or they wouldn't vote it onto the list at all - I was simply pointing out that among my friends, for whom the previous versions of the game were party staples for months if not years, MK Wii was a flash in the pan which disappeared after a week. I don't know why - I thought it was rather good, personally - but it just didn't seem to float people's boats enough to make them want to gather around the telly.
  • Ducklord #54 3 years ago

    :S

    I don't have a problem with the games they've chosen in this (under the mountain of games released this year, surely being in the top 50 is a great achievment?), it's just that they themselves don't seem to actually like any of the games they've chosen.
  • Rev.StuartCampbell #55 3 years ago

    people's ludicrous hyperbole for the flawed Super Mario Galaxy (aha! I get to say it and no one will come back!)

    I will!

    SHUT YOUR STUPID FACE, WALKER, YOU IGNORANT GIANT OAF.
  • Caimbeul #56 3 years ago

    Mass Effect...#49!!!????

    Fucking Bollocks! if you excuse my language, simply one of the greatest games ever made. Therefore this article is shit.
  • JahB #57 3 years ago

    @Strifer

    this is the "best game of staff", not the "best pc port" list. buy a console already
  • agparrot #58 3 years ago

    Come on, where are 40 - 31?!
  • Strifer #59 3 years ago

    @JahB

    I know this list is entirely subjective, that's not my point. There should be no excuse for a developer to release such a buggy game in 2008. I can see there is something fun in F3 if I spent 10 hours on it, but this was cut short by the constant lock-ups. I could have brought up this issue around release, but I have only gotten around to it during Christmas Eve. Wonderful. It went from an 8/10 experience to a swift return to the shop.

    And I am not going to buy the console version: the prices are ridiculous over here. F3 on the console costs almost double the PC version, and I have just bought a new rig. Besides, I hear that the console version is not such a flawless experience.
    Edited by 1 at 27/12/08 @ 15:56
  • BOFH_UK #60 3 years ago

    @Cid: "Smash Brother isn't open to button-mashing at all. Well...it is if all players are doing it, but a button masher will always get his rear-end tanned by someone who knows what they're doing."

    To borrow a phrase from Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation fame, you then become 'that guy', the one who practices a party game on their own and is then so much better than everyone else it defeats the 'having fun' object of a party game and everyone buggers off to play Rock Band. While button mashing isn't a guaranteed win against someone who's played way too much it DOES let you hold your own and results in some wins.

    For me (and all-bar-one of my gaming-related friends) Smash Bros Brawl was the biggest letdown of the year simply because it doesn't do anything new. I've played and owned all three Smash Bros games right back to the N64 days in 1999 and it just hasn't changed. In a group of four Smash Bros veterans we got bored pretty quickly as there wasn't anything we've seen before. In a group of people who hadn't played before it was fun and everyone had a good time... for about an hour. Then everyone just felt they'd seen it all and asked to switch to something else.. I was really looking forward to it as well but after playing it my Wii was traded in for, of all things, a PS3 as there simply wasn't anything else on the horizon that I wanted and SSBB clearly wasn't going to hold my attention until something else decent came along.

    I think the problem here is the same thing that affected MGS4. These are games built for the fanboys and if you're not one they tend to leave you scratching your head wondering what the big deal is. With MGS4 it's the massive amount of story which doesn't make much sense if you don't know the backstory from the earlier games. With Smash Bros it's the appeal of playing 'what if' with the Ninty universe and a few guest characters. If that floats your boat then it's amazing, if not you're left with a good party game that doesn't deliver anything like the depth you need for a long-term time soak of a fighting game.
  • Fab4 #61 3 years ago

    The fact that R2 is below Co:WaW means the list is an utter failure...for me, anyway. If the PoS that is WaW gets anywhere near a top 50 then be prepared to have repackaged sequels rammed up your arse for years to come.
  • Incarta #62 3 years ago

    Wow. The bitching in this thread. And it's only 50-41!

    Why do people get so upset when different opinions to their own emerge? Personally, I don't think it's about the top 50. I think it's people getting upset because they don't have a website to vent their own opinions.

    And they don't have a website of their own because they're too busy complaining on EG to make one. My God, I think I've got it! :o

    Oh, and I mostly agree with the 50-41. Can't say for sure as I haven't played them all.
  • Decap #63 3 years ago

    I love this list! Not because of the ratings, but it collects all the idiots on one comments-section, so its easy to ignore all the posters that keep whining about the actual list. :p
  • Kujata #64 3 years ago

    EDF! EDF!

    Glad to see some of the EG staff enjoyed Mercs 2. It was my Co-op game of the year, along wih Saints Row 2.
  • Toonster #65 3 years ago

    Brawl?

    :'(

    You kill me, Eurogamer.
  • Rash' #66 3 years ago

    Smash so low is a shocking decision, especially when Mercs2 is in the diabolical list.
  • Rev.StuartCampbell #67 3 years ago

    EDF 2019? In the future, has it been taken over by EA?
  • Rhys21 #68 3 years ago

    Kieron Gillen on Smash Bros
    "this is about as far away from what I play videogames for as I can imagine."

    Now I remember why I don't visit Eurogamer
  • tardo #69 3 years ago

    I bought Bangai-O Spirits yesterday (as it was on sale, and had been praised lots by GameCentral/teletext), and am mostly enjoying it so far. Although it is pretty darn hard.

    Shame mkwii is relatively low though. That's probably been my most played game this year. The demented struggle to get 3 stars on all of the levels, and then the endless online fun.
  • The_Inquisitor #70 3 years ago

    I'm glad to see N+ make the list. It is one of my most played games of this year, purely because of the score tables which I haven't been so competative over in years.
  • Nikanoru #71 3 years ago

    To borrow a phrase from Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation fame, you then become 'that guy', the one who practices a party game on their own and is then so much better than everyone else it defeats the 'having fun' object of a party game and everyone buggers off to play Rock Band. While button mashing isn't a guaranteed win against someone who's played way too much it DOES let you hold your own and results in some wins.


    lol yeah.... but no. Bullshit. I'm lame at Brawl, don't even own the game, I play it at my mate's house occasionally (or he brings it over) and I often get trounced by him because I'm only slightly accustomed to the game. When we invite over a total newbie, however, I easily win pretty much 100% of the time despite their button mashing fury, because I -am- slightly accustomed to it. On the other hand, my mate who owns the game (and is not a true hardcore player) would in turn get shown every corner of the stage by "that guy" who knows their wavedashing or whatever else.

    All those comments made by desperate yahtzee wannabes are just that, complete and utter fucking bullshit.
  • merkdot #72 3 years ago

    nobody cares about smash bros anymore, just like animal crossing.


    zzzzzzzzzzzzz
  • DandyKong #73 3 years ago

    I completely disagree with what's written about Mario Kart Wii. I've played and enjoyed that game for months and months. The shortcomings of the single player mode are well compensated for by the online mode, which was a lot better than MKDS's online mode. I wonder whether the people who gave their view on Mario Kart Wii have actually played the game online,

    Saying that the gameplay was designed to please casual gamers is lazy, cliche and simply not true. Getting a star rating or better on the 150cc cups is hard and, admittedly, frustrating. But there's definitely nothing casual about it.
  • PlugMonkey #74 3 years ago

    Kristan Reed: I seriously wonder which other shooters my colleagues have been playing for this to feature in their top tens. I know I rated it lower than most, but my god some of this was shockingly awful. Blown up by a man pointing an RPG in your face? No worries, just run around the corner and recharge your health and bop him on the nose with a pencil.

    Because respawning back at the base and having to repeat the mission up to that point would be much more fun wouldn't it? Wouldn't it? Would it? No.

    Having to hide in a corner for ten seconds was punishment enough for fucking up in a game so silly. You must get really wound up every time you watch an action movie and the hero keeps on not dying when he should have done.
  • RekoPoWa #75 3 years ago

    Mercianaries---R2

    HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    this top is stupid