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Eurogamer's Top 50 Games of 2008: 10-1 Article

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30 December, 2009

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4. Fable II

Microsoft / Lionhead / Xbox 360

Johnny Minkley: I was saving this as my big 'Christmas game', since I've only managed to squeeze in a few hours so far. And then I went to Lionhead to interview Molyneux with Christian Donlan and was swept away in the spoiler avalanche that was their Fable love-in. I'm just going to have to drink myself amnesiac.

John Walker: I hate dogs. Can they make a version where you have a pet cat?

Kristan Reed: A little too accessible for its own good, but the addition of co-op play clinches it for me. Well done Lionhead for actually managing to deliver on the hype.

Christian Donlan: Lionhead chose to preview this in very discrete chunks which didn't seem to be that obviously connected, so I went into Fable II thinking that the bits and pieces I'd seen might not come together particularly gracefully. Crikey. People say it's short and get annoyed when it breaks all the rules, but in terms of not just creating brilliant content, but ensuring that a majority of players will actually get to see most of it, this leaves other games looking a little stupid.

Keza MacDonald: COR BLIMEY, LIL' SPARRA, A TEN? LAWKS!

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Kieron Gillen: World of Goo is just amazing.

Tom Bramwell: "They're using a giant worm!"

Dan Whitehead: Fable II thoroughly deserves top marks. At least, it does in principle. So many of the ideas at play here are so brilliant and obvious that you wonder why games haven't latched onto them earlier. The fact that experience is a more valuable commodity than health in a genre driven by quicksaves and healing potions, for example. Yet the game never quite gets the balance right, making it far too easy to build up massive reserves of gold and XP. For every step forward, Fable II takes two sideways. It's also glitchy and buggy and only starts to get interesting once you reach the end of the main story. I'm happy to call it one of my favourites of the year, but my affection is ultimately based on empathy for what it attempts rather than inspiration from what it actually does.

Simon Parkin: The technical issues with the game are infuriating, not because they spoil the experience but because they dominated conversation about it, conversation that would be better spent discussing its triumphs rather than its shortfalls. The choices may be limited, the interactions simplistic, but buy into this world and its systems and you'll leave a richer person, and not only in terms of virtual real estate.

Tom Bramwell: Sometimes I'm in the mood for games that want to smack my head in. Sometimes I want games that let me smack their heads in. Sometimes I want to smack my friends. I don't have to be in any sort of mood to play Fable II, and it actually cures me when I'm in a bad one. Molyneux's debt is repaid.

3. Grand Theft Auto IV

Rockstar Games / Rockstar North / PC, PS3, Xbox 360

Kristan Reed: I love it and hate it in equal measure. Love the ambition, the script, the music, the ambience and the scope, but hate some of the heinous checkpointing and nagging social aspect. One day a GTA game will emerge that doesn't needlessly demand you drive halfway across an enormous map to start a mission, and then I will be a happy camper.

Oli Welsh: I had to do live television because of this game, which was the single most terrifying experience of my life. I wore an orange jumper, repeated myself, and died in the middle of a sentence. Since then, I haven't been able to play it.

Jim Rossignol: Rockstar takes the piss. While the rest of game development struggles to make their voice actors say their lines correctly, and can't quite fulfill their visions of grandeur, Rockstar creates a game with acting on par with HBO's finest, and conjures the illusion of a modern living city that is more convincing that anything else in the galaxy of games. I mean just look at it: they made being an Eastern European immigrant thug in New York seem appealing! Not just appealing, but funny, compelling, even desirable. Magic is at work here. Or amazing, well-funded game design. One of the two.

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Simon Parkin: It was the game that everybody started but, reportedly, few finished, if Microsoft's drop-off rate stats are to be taken at face value. This dash to experience Liberty City, to see the world and to be able to pass judgment on it quickly and urgently meant that most voices commenting on the game, from the highest critic down to the lowliest forumite, were often shallow at best. Now, months later, time has mellowed the extremist views, drawing players towards a moderate consensus that this is, in most ways, an extraordinary gameworld, one that houses, in some ways, an extraordinary game.

Rob Fahey: I watched my flatmate play this for weeks without ever having the slightest compunction to pick up the controller myself. I know it's beautiful, accomplished, mature and superbly polished, and I'm very happy that it exists and that it is those things - but it just looks staid and po-faced to me. I nod in appreciation and move on, rather than actually wanting to jump in and play.

Keza MacDonald: I have never enjoyed a Grand Theft Auto game before. Presented with an open world in which I can do anything I want, the last thing on my mind is driving cars and shooting men. Frivolous violence doesn't do anything for me, nor does crude humour. Then, along came Grand Theft Auto IV, and I couldn't do anything but play it for weeks. It's amazingly well made, detailed and broad in scope, yes, and great fun, but it's GTA IV's hidden intelligence that got through to me. It has dark humour and sharp wit that shine through the cheap laughs and over-the-top situations. Niko is believable, and so is his world. For every moment of pointless violence that made me wince, there were six or seven missions in which I felt genuinely involved. The final portion of the game, especially, had me as emotionally involved as any game has. Certainly not what I'd expected from a GTA game. This is something I'd show to anyone who doesn't believe in the potential of videogames. It's a staggering technological achievement.

Kieron Gillen: From a PC perspective, the questionable performance throws a long shadow over this particular triumph from Rockstar. But otherwise... well, it does manage a scale which no other game this year really managed to compete against. It was living proof of what an enormous development budget could allow in terms of creating a place to live and play. Nevertheless, there's a nagging sense - a little like last year's Assassin's Creed - which makes you wonder what a developer more interested in creating that stimulatory environment would have done with it all. They create a city which, ultimately, doesn't really act like a city in any significant way. Something nags, y'know?

Ellie Gibson: It's no Diner Dash.

Dan Whitehead: While I think there's a contrary element to a lot of the criticisms thrown at GTA IV - and the series as a whole - it's hard to deny that there wasn't much that felt new or fresh here. The attempts at crafting a less adolescent story also stumbled slightly, by making it hard to reconcile the sympathetic character of Niko with the bloodshed of the game itself. And yet the whole is still a triumph, of sorts. Even though most of the missions are simply "drive here, shoot them, drive back" the framework still resonates because of the excellent character work and dialogue. One of my most memorable missions simply involved driving a car to a location, but it was made thrilling and important because I was also transporting the corpse of a fairly major character. I'm not sure where they can go for GTA V, but I'm hoping Rockstar leaves crime alone for a while and tells different stories using this amazingly versatile world creator they now have.

Alec Meer: Breaking down GTA to its fundaments and rebuilding them, rather than taking the San Andreas route of simply adding feature-creep to what was already there, was the right choice. I'm not entirely convinced it shook itself up enough to deserve all the breathless accolades, but it's certainly made a case for characterisation, dialogue, detail and animation that the likes of Bethesda should be paying close attention to.

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John Walker: I'm still trying to figure out why this is not only the first GTA game I've been able to stomach playing, but also a game I completely adored. Even going back to play the original top-down GTA, I found myself recoiling against the violence and hate at its core. (And please let me stress, I'm in no way condemning this.) Even Vice City's cartoony world made me feel unpleasant when I played it. But GTA IV was compelling. And I think I know what it might be. Sympathy. In no way can I sympathise with anyone from previous GTA games - surely the person I'm playing is the character I should be shooting at, the one I should be trying to stop? But Niko Bellic was different. I couldn't identify or empathise with him, but I could feel sympathy for him. The horrors he had faced had dehumanised him, explaining his sociopathic nature, while also offering the sense that there could be redemption for him, and there was hope in relationships. That's what made the double-cross so much worse, and sends Bellic deeper into his depravity. I don't know whether Rockstar are going soft, or whether this was a happy accident, but they finally made the GTA game for me.

Tom Bramwell: When we did our Editor's panel thing at the Eurogamer Expo, one of our excellent readers followed me out and asked me to justify giving this 10/10, because he'd emptied it so quickly. I knew what he meant. As I said to him though, the reason it's so quickly exhausted is that you stampede through it, bingeing on it, until it's done: the story missions, the radio interludes, the comedy clubs, the Assassin's Creed stuff, the Gone in 60 Seconds stuff, the stunts, the pigeons. It's all gone in about 30 hours or less. You spent 30 hours playing it. I did it twice, as it goes. My game of the year, narrowly from Trials 2, Braid and Gears of War 2. Rockstar spent more money on this than anyone has spent on a game in history, and didn't just make San Andreas 2. Do you honestly not want to see what they do with the proceeds?

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Widge
30/12/08 @ 18:07
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Fuck me that is a total massive surprise!
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30/12/08 @ 18:09
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RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!
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Really? I'd say that it's pretty predictable, in that actually is a pretty solid 9/10 at least kinda game with a lot of appeal to all sorts of gamers. Whereas some of the others are perhaps better games for a smaller gaming audience. /shrugs
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Totally deserved it, it's an excellent game, been too preoccupied with the pre-made levels and community levels to even touch the creation, and I still love it. It's pretty much the only game (other than singstar) my sister ever wants to play, so it's hit a cord with her. (she's 10)
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Fair game gov. I haven't played LBP yet and the games I love are in about the right places. Except Fallout 3 is top and Gears of War 2 is 40 :)
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I think Widge summed it up, disn't see that coming at all. Deserves it, but didn't thinki it'd be #1.
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30/12/08 @ 18:15
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IMHO:

World of goo deserves to be there..

But braid, gta4 & Left 4 dead are all incredibly mediocre.


LBP I've played at a mates house.. still dont get the appeal...
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30/12/08 @ 18:15
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never played lbp but fallouts great so thats lovely....
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30/12/08 @ 18:15
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........*sniff*......no The World Ends With You in the entire top 50.........I think i'm gonna cry!!:(
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30/12/08 @ 18:15
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Is world of Goo really that good?

Honest list I guess.

@smelly

Braid is fucking brilliant.
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I really thought Braid would be at #1.

No Dead Space in the top 50 though. Condemned 2 must have taken its spot ;)
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30/12/08 @ 18:17
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Dead Space was a load of clunky rubbish.

It was a soulless Resident Evil clone.
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30/12/08 @ 18:18
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LBP... nice shame Everboys Golf wasn't up there.
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30/12/08 @ 18:18
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I'm already preparing wood and gasoline for you guys.

All in nice canvas engine painted canisters with big VC letters on them.
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30/12/08 @ 18:18
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Couldn't get into LBP myself
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30/12/08 @ 18:18
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Wowowowoowowwowoowwowowowooqoqoqoqowowowo!!!!!!!1111
Gazza_UK
30/12/08 @ 18:18
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wohahahahaaaaa
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30/12/08 @ 18:19
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I thought it might go to Oblivion with Guns (TM) but that was a nice surprise! :)
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30/12/08 @ 18:20
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BUT no Valkyria Chronicles? Was Dan the only one at EG who played it? :(
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SHUDDER... No Valkyria Chronicles? As you don't have an embassy I'm going to burn some of Keiron's comics.
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Yes! LBP at no. 1! Its a great game and some of the community levels are fantastic! Well deserved in my opinion.

Is World of Goo that good?
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30/12/08 @ 18:22
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Well, I'm glad it wasn't Fallout 3 that won this. Pretty solid Top 10 I'd say give or take a bit of shuffling about. Nice work EG.
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And I still don't get LBP, even after it getting number 1 spot here and at Edge. I guess I'm just too old for that sh..
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30/12/08 @ 18:26
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Worst. #2. Ever.

Seriously, Fallout 3 is the Emperor's New Entire Fucking Wardrobe.
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30/12/08 @ 18:28
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Not a bad list, but no Valkyria Chronicles anywhere on the list? For shame EG.
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No, Fallout 3 is great, and I wanted it to be terrible so I could moan about Bethesda some more but I couldn't deny it was fantastic.
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KingOfMyCastle: "I'm going to burn some of Keiron's comics."

Eeek!

KG
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GTAIV and Fable 2. It saddens me to say that I couldn't source much enjoyment out of either of those two. Fable 2 was probably on the better side of mediocre, at least combat was good fun at times and the story had its moments. GTAIV disappointed me greatly, though, because of its lack of story, focus and interest in general.
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GH:WT above Rock Band 2? Sorry, totally disagree with that one, Rock Band is clearly the better game IMO - far more fun in a local multiplayer session, better track listing, better note charting, better career mode, FAR better 'feel' of being in a band and, most importantly, a VAST number of tracks available as DLC. Reading through the comments I can't help feeling it's been placed where it is because of the instruments which is a shame. Oh well, to each their own I guess.

As for the rest, can't argue with any of the top ten really. The exact order is, of course, open for debate but that's going to vary from person to person anyway so the heck with it. I'd love to pick up Left 4 Dead but it's just too expensive on the 360 at the moment for the amount of content it provides. One surprise though, does this mean that Dead Space didn't make the top 50? That IS odd considering the feedback it's been getting all over the place. I wonder if it's one of those games that people like but not enough to quite make it into their top ten lists?
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Braid was the standout game for me, by far. Then GTA.

But a list compiled by myself wouldn't really be accruate, as I have no access to a PS3 and hate RPGs :D
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You know the way Kieron Gillen wanted to write a scathing MGS4 review? WELL I WANT TO WRITE A FALLOUT 3 ONE.

This #2 is an offence to reason, justice, and the Fallout license.
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Can't believe Left4Dead was only number 7....its perfect.... but still, top ten is good going I guess..

now to go buy world of goo!
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So, a PS3 win this year then...

Seriously, a good list, and well done to LBP .
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30/12/08 @ 18:35
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hurray for LBP - are they gonna sneakily change the review score to a 10 now?
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30/12/08 @ 18:36
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And yes, Left 4 Dead should be higher. I'd put it #1, but I understand that it's not for everyone.

But really, though, Fallout 3 is a crashing disappointment in all but a few respects.
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BOFH_UK: "I wonder if it's one of those games that people like but not enough to quite make it into their top ten lists?"

I suspect it's this, though I admit I didn't play it.

KG
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How tastes differ, i am lapping up Fallout 3 and i could not stand GTA IV, that really was the Emperor's New Wardrobe and all his staff to boot!

As for LBP at number 1, i dont like it, and i also find it complex in design mode. I have two under ten's who i have to prize away from the thing every day and who seem to have no issues designing vast complex levels in Co-Op mode!

Mmm maybe i am getting old?
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Yeah shame about the World Ends With You, but never mind eh, at least we still get to play it!

Nice list all in all, I couldn't get on with Fallout 3 but maybe I just don't have the head for it, I couldn't get on with Oblivion either.

Having read the list, I kinda want to play Braid now, so I guess it worked!
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I like GTA4, even if for it being one of those rare games that didn't assume we are all 14 years old in fully grown bodies.
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GHWT over RB2 WTFOMGBBQ!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, WTF?
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30/12/08 @ 18:42
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"I'd love to pick up Left 4 Dead but it's just too expensive on the 360 at the moment for the amount of content it provides."

If I see this line of reasoning or a variation on it one more time I'm going to scream. I have played Left 4 Dead more than any other retail game this year, including 'epic' RPGs like Fable II, Fallout 3, and the FPS odyssey that is Far Cry 2.
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It's not mentioned in the article but Crysis Warhead is in the 0th position.
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Fair enough.

GTA shouldn't be that high though.
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Probably the least random list out of all of them. Weirdness...
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NO FIFA???!??? You what...thats harsh..EA actually have made the best sports game ever..and its not in the top 50!?
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Did I miss Ninja Gaiden II as well? Are there no Eurogamer staff/contributors who are good at games?
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LBP is my personal nr 1 as well for the sole reason the missus and me had hours of fun with LBP multiplayer. Still, not a game without faults - I just wish the controls were a bit more precise.

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No Sins of a Solar Empire anywhere, for shame.
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I haven't played much Valkyria yet, but surely it deserves a spot somewhere among the 50.

IMO among the top 1/4.
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Yay for LBP... I really didnt think i would like it as much as i do, but its fantastic. Single player is alot of fun, if you give it alittle time and effort :)

My three kids (under 11) are loving the level editor and have made some really funny things happen on screen.

Fallout 3, this is a game that you need to play in small bites and it begins to grab you in such a way that you end up playing it for hours. I can see why some people might not think it was all that, but loving it.

Not too bothered about the rest of the top 10, not played Braid or World of Goo, but I think its a shame Wipeout wasnt in the top 10 as that is a stellar game.

Anyway overall a pretty good top 10.

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