Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer Review
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Take that, Hamlet!
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Looking forward to the new expansion today, alongside all the Might of Crom bonus items I was tempted into buying when I pre-ordered the expansion.
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Must always be pronounced with a Germanic accent for added effect.
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Brilliantly constructive criticism. You've expertly detailed why the article is lacking and what changes could be made to make it a more complete piece of writing.
Please direct me to your own body of work so that I might compare the works of both yourself and the reviewer.
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If you want a fantasy MMO that isn't WoW you're better off with LOTRO or even DDO, which has the big advantage of being free (which makes up for it's many disadvantages).
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First of all.
There are 5 zones, not 4. Peikang is the last zone. Which is in many opinions the best zone.
2nd of all.
There are 12 (6 man instances) and a T4 raid instance.
How do you do a review with out trying to do any of the big contents?
Did you do the new destiny quest from Conan?
I mean. Do a review when you actually have played the game. This review was very bad.
Signed from someone who has played the beta for 6 months.
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For £19.99 customers are getting the deal of the century with this new package.
Eurogamer is bringing nothing but death to the PC gaming scene IMO by not giving this a proper review. Can you see the cataclysm review: "Not having played WoW before i was presented with 4 bars of something called "skills" - it took a bit of getting used, but in 10 minutes I know how to play the game end-game and it sucked, too many things to do at the same time".
Why didn't Eurogamer use their proper reviewer that KNOW the game, and not some kid of the street?
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Are Eurogamer serious about this review?
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He actually complained about no level cap increase
Its what the comunity voted for and we are greatful for it you dumbass !!!
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Why bother explaining it any further, when the reviewer clearly didn't spend any real time playing the game, a MMO, which takes considerable longer time to review. It's clear no matter what the game would have been like it would have been given a low score. If he had any clue about the current state of the game, he would understand why certain decisions were made, and as a result improve the game a lot more then what he proposes.
Added to that he could have written this review by reading a FAQ and looking at some videos. Hardly anything in the review shows he actually has played to game to get more information to the readers of Eurogamer besides what's arleady out there on the internet.
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Have to agree with some comments here, not sure if the reviewerhas spent the appropriate time needed on an MMO to be able to post a review. I understand the 'want' to publish a review on launch-date, but this seems hurried and rushed in a way. I figure you have to spend around a week solid to get a good grasp on an MMO, and you certainly need some experience in one before reviewing an expansion. I'll still probably buy the expansion, other previews and indeed reviews ont he web suggest a score much higher than 6/10.
also: wtb camel mount.
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What really caught my eye is this guy saying theres a leveling gap, there hasnt been for over 1½ year now, dont review things if your not willing to get your facts right, Eurogamer is quickly becoming one of the least trustworthy sources for reviews on the net.
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No they don't. Firstly, I still have to pay a subscription fee, so the initial costs are only a faction of the final costs anyway. Secondly, the game only now approaches the state it should have had when it was released (and I paid 45 Euros for it back then. It would only be the deal of the century if Funcom puts a cheque over 25 Euros into the package).
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1.) The reviewer did not like the first game. So it is absurd that he is the one who reviewed the game (this point is not so strong so lets go to nr. 2)
2.)"the place often feels less fantastical than you might expect from the Conan universe and more like a wild, uneducated stab at Chinese history with monsters doodled in the margins. Unimaginative pagodas, paddy fields and jade carvings make a poor substitute for the occasionally spectacular architecture of Age of Conan's other areas."
Conan is low fantasy - even the amount of fantasy present is a bit to much for conan universe. As for him saying that the architecture and the world is unimaginative it makes me wonder if he played the game AT ALL. Because he is the first person I know or I have read that said something negative about probably the most beatiful MMORPG on the market.
3."Behold the magical, mystical land of... China! They should have rolled with it and made Age of Conan: Conan vs. Communism."
Unprofessional at best. And it is not China that was copied but Korea. Again, here the reviewer has shown that he knows nothing about the game. It was said gazillion times that they are copying Korea.
4." The lack of content that puts Conan players at risk of having to grind appears between levels 50 and 80, not 20 and 40"
Again, the reviewer shows 0 knowledge about the game. Gap of 50-60 was adressed by ymirs pass 1 year after release and another gap 70-80 was filled with Tarantia Commons half a year ago
20-40 was the only level that did not get much love since start. The decision here is obvious - if you make lvl 20-80 content in Khitai there is considerable danger that your old zones will get deserted. INSTEAD they offered additional quests in old lands and that was imo good move
4."Khitai is big enough to render the fact that Rise of the Godslayer doesn't include a level cap increase absolutely absurd. There are four huge, wide-open areas to explore, each as big as Gateway to Khitai, except with more dungeons. By Conan's standards, there's enough here to hypothetically nudge a player up to level 100, or perhaps even 110."
"The game is lacking depth" was one of the major complaints for Age of Conan. Alternate advancement was offered as a way of progressing without having to grind more levels. I don't see why adding levels is such an important thing ...
Oh btw, the announcement that there will be no new levels was accepted very positively by majority of existing AoC players. So again, writer shows his inability to see why certain decisions were made and ignores the response of the players to the decisions.
5."It's through factions that you'll acquire some of the epic loot that's your only real goal in Khitan, since you're not levelling up."
Clearly a bizzare statement. If author would click on AA system window he would see how much advantage certain perks give to players - lvl 80 players will have to "grind" through the content in order to progress through AA system which will probably be a must have for T4 and certainly for PVP action
4+5 alternate response gives author himself "Addictive play in RPGs doesn't simply come from "dings", but from growing your character in meaningful ways." ...
6."Age of Conan already had redundant abilities and a wealth of tactical options, so with the addition of dozens more perks and powers, character advancement can begin to feel a little sordid. Dropping into one of the level 80 characters Funcom kindly provided me with, I found myself having to study four racks of abilities and stances with at least a dozen more powers sat eagerly in menus, waiting to be given slots. But then once I did figure out what I was doing I found I could slouch through every fight with the same series of combos."
I suggest author to do the same series of combos against my bearshaman.
7.It's also worth pointing out that on the beta server I played Godslayer on, the memory leaks and general instability of the client were still an issue, and crashes were regular, although Funcom assures us things will improve in the live version of the game.)
I have not crashed a single time through beta. But than again I have decent clean computer.
--> I think I have shown why this is an article eurogamer should delete. I appologise for my broken english but I hope you will understand the points I was trying to make anyway.
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probably: 1st time played the game, never in guild, no raids, no friends, solo on lent char, shot time played, beta server, incorrect info, never done 1-80, no pvp and many more fatal errors.
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Almost forgot this brilliant piece. Are you kidding me? For this alone the review should be deleted.
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The reviewer seems to belong to the group of people who believe the game has not evovled since launch 2008, and continue to bring up flaws that have long since been corrected. Do people who review World of Warcraft still bring up its instabilities at launch to drag down the reivew? I think not.
Not raising the level cap was one of the best decision they have made. It is a shame the reviewer does not realize this.
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AOC is designed in a way that gear matters less than in other games, player skill is important too, both in pvp and pve. The gear might look like small upgraded to existing. But that's how it is. There is no 300% gear diference in AOC.
The factions are designed so that casual players can get some decent end game gear, that takes time and comitment to gain. The raiders have a new T4 raid instance.
This game is designed for adults, not 12 year old kids.
I also don't understand the lack of quests. Many new quests have been added to existing zones, two new zones, in the 60-79 area. There is also offline leveling, so you can put in a level or two if you have skipped some quests and want to move on faster.
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P.S. I dont know on what piece of junk are you guys playing but surprisingly I dont experience any crashes at all (apart from sieges tbh, but thats another issue).
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well said that man.
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-4 for agreeing with the reviewer.
nice.
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Anyway the preview shows quite clearly that the author has absolutely no clue about the game. He doesnt say anything about the dungeons, chosain and paikang and there are some factual errors.
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Stating the obvious that has NO relevance to the review since it is not base+expansion review but a simple minded expension review. So relevance here is non existing
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]http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=ELcjGD6Fc8g
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I wonder how much of this content Mr Quintin Smith from Eurogamer has seen.. if any at all..
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Reviews/previews etc are just opinions people...
and opinions are like arseholes folks, everyone has one.
As a former player myself, I'm still not rid of the bad taste in my mouth from the AoC launch, it hit the shops in a pathetic state.
Seriously unprofessional to ship it as incomplete as it was.
I got my Barbarian past 63 or so before quitting.
I'm well aware that the ones responsible have already fallen on their swords, so to speak, and Craig Morrison is doing his best to work with what's left and please the remaining fans - again (see anarchy online).
But many of us wont throw good money after bad.
I'll hold out for 'The Secret World'.
If that game sucks, me and FunCom are 'Done professionally' - to paraphrase Mr Christain Bale
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That says a lot. Grow up kids!
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And he proves it several times. It's not a review of the new expansion. It is nothing more than a try to convince other people of the author's opinion.
There are so many flaws in the article, showing, that the author did not (and obviously will not) spend the time to dive into the game at all.
To the remark about the level cap: All MMO's have proven, that rising the level cap is not a good solution. Example: travel to the old zones of WoW: empty places. Shattrath, once bustling with live, is now a dead city with some occassional players levelling an alt. I think Funcom is on the right way not to jump on the same waggon and it is good there is still a company out there, which is brave enough to try something new.
And for Eurogamer: you did yourself not a favor allowing someone with no clue about a game to write a review. Shame on you.
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I hurt someone's' Epeen I see.
Lets have a look...
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Alias: tiny_Something
Location: Slovenia
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yeah, thought so.
Bugger off back to the FC forums with the rest of your whiny 'lets start EG accounts to bitch about one review' mates.
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hmmm... Start an EG account today just to bitch about one review much?
your tears make us stronger.
nom nom nom nom nom.
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thanks for the post fanboy!
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You lost the little trust remaining I had in your writing.
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You see, opinions have to be justified. this one is not. I have shown why
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"The lack of content that puts Conan players at risk of having to grind appears between levels 50 and 80"
"But let's say you do reach level 80..."
This is not correct and it's missleading potential players to belive you have to grind from 50 and up.
There is also some bad asian/political jokes. The reviewer dont seem to understand how important the asian market is to MMO developers. Even Blizzard, the flagship og western MMO have adjusted the game to asian players. The original Horde races were extremly popular in asia, while most western players prefered Alliance. Not untill BC expansion did both sides get classes that made the sides more equal in east/west.
This expansion is a major release and I think a site like eurogamer should do a proper review. If you don't have time to review it properly then dont do it. There's many game sites that dont review mmo's because of lack of time/knowledge/money.
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Sorry, but this is the retardest Review ive ever seen.
I think this Guy is a motoric AoC hater, and want to lower the interest on this Game. I have no other assertion for this here...
Playtime 1-2H or what?
Funcom shuold sue for libel the Autor or this Site for this horrible thing.
Or just FIRE them NAO!
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LOL.
the 'Retardest'?
really?
Oh by the way, Irony called, it was for you.
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/popcorn
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Go back to your Mr-T granades u Kiddy, und STFU when Grown Ups talking! xD
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@actionfitz
Go back to your Mr-T granades u Kiddy, und STFU when Grown Ups talking! xD"
Kiddy?
I'm 31 years old actually
BTW your grammar makes my eyes bleed, in fact, it's the "retardest" grammar i've ever seen.
hehe.
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Lets see how your "grammar" is.^^
btw:
[14:53]:[Whisper]:[actionfliz]: I like men, u too?
Whats this??
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The most obvious and the most disturbing thing was not even mentioned. That is no new starting area. Imagine playing Oblivion time after time after time. This is probably the most hated area by vets because they have been through it many many times and it's design is SP - it is one, max 2 time fun ... it has no replayable value. Therefore a new starting area would be something logical to include in expansion
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If u had just reed the qq s at aoc forum u could write alot better and more reliable slander .
Its still not too late . Pls delete this "joke" article and write again after playing this game untill u work out what is what .
too bad too bad too bad
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[14:53]:[Whisper]:[actionfliz]: I like men, u too?
Whats this??"
Erm by the looks of things it's a line of text whereby you imply i've been sending you some form of instant messages professing my esteem for my fellow man and inquire about your feelings on the issue.
"U can try to answer me in my Language!
erm ok, here goes:
OMGWTFBBQ!!?11 noObZ u r tEh sUxOrs KTHXBYE!!11
did I get that right?
Im not 100% fluent in Retard, apologies.
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"Im not 100% fluent in Retard, apologies."
You can read the "Review", so you are!
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..Which is?
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As actionfitz sayd!
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all that needs to be said really.
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I'm sure it was accurate for the single hour he spend in-game with hardly to no previous knowledge about the game.
And that's far from enough for a MMO.
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And you call yourself "mature players"?
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But here was a very poor written review which made me wonder did he play this game at all? Did he knows anything about the current state of the game?
Ive spend 6 moths beta testing this game, done every instance, every content there is. He havent even tried a single instance, not a single raid, and by the looks of it he hasnt even bin in the last playfield. He hasnt tested how the AA system works, how faction system works etc. He doesent mention there is a whole new 24man raid. What about the new destiny quest that is very important to the story. What about games music score?
Summary: This review was like reviewing a car by it looks, but not testing its engine.....If you understand. Poor review, thats all.
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Please re-instate the review and delete the comments thread.
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1. Inform
2. Evaluate
3. Give opinion of the tester
The evaluation should be based on objective criteria, the personal opinion of the tester should be stated in some sentenced at the end of the article.
Thats the way most of the testers do it.
So what was wrong with the article?
1. Lack of information: There was nothing about the 12 dungeons, nothing about the emote system, nothing about t4 raids. So you got the feeling the tester didnt play any dungeon at all. Since they are an integral part of the addon and a mmorpg in general this is a very big mistake. Only few sentences about the aa system more opionion than facts. He didnt say anything about chosain or paikang 2 new zones which are the best ones in the addon. Hardly any information about the new factions the new credo choice and consequence, nothing about the massive amount of new armor and items. The new pets you can raise were handled in 2 sentences, but they are quite an important factor for the addon.
2. Evaluation was not well founded. It was more opinion than fact based. Of course a game should make fun and thas in the end personal taste and feelings.
But how can you suppose to have fun with a mmorpg after making a level 80 char and rushing into high level content without having any clue about the game and the char you are playing. Of course there will be too much combos and skills you have to choose from.No wonder it will be confusing. But thats not the games fault.Its yours. So you cannot say we it doesnt need more skills and so stuff as it already got so much.
3. Opinion
He stated in nearly every second sentence that he didnt like this and that but he didnt say why it was bad or he didnt like it.
As I said opinion in a review is important but if the opinion overweights the facts and is mixed with evalutation it messes everything up. And the tester already started with his opinion so after reading 2 sentences you already got the feeling he does not like aoc at all.And that just continued and got worse.
Ok you dont like an aa system, you want more levels. But does that mean an aa system is crap? Does that have to mean its a big con if there are no new levels? you dont like it? No problem. Write it down but say that it is your opinion or say why it is bad based on objective facts.
4. Facts
He made some false statements like "there is a content gap at level 40-80".
This has been fixed months ago.Just shows he has no clue about the game at all, but he should have as a serious tester.
So much for now, sorry for my bad english, its not my native language ^^.
Another note: I hardly doubt you can test an addon for a mmorpg in some days, thats just impossible and will result in a desaster both for the game and the tester.
edit: grammar
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If its the later then I guess it'll all come out in the wash although shame on you for damaging a guys career, if its the former then shame on him for wrecking what might well now finally be an excellent game, however, having read plenty of his reviews before I'm leaving towards the later...
Edit: Although I have to say Daywheed does lay out his concerns rather well and with some decent explanation unlike the others...
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Yep, I'm creating an account here just to post this comment. Mostly because I've never had a reason to visit this crap hole of a website before, but you've motivated me so. You think it's sad that fanboys create an account to defend a game, from which they gain entertainment value, against what they perceive as a very incomplete and unjust review. I think it's sad that you feel the need to call them out and try to correct random anonymous posters that have zero influence on your life or your entertainment. Oh noes! Someone is wrong on the internet... must correct... must ridicule... ...
My 2 cents, have a nice life.
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Unbelievable joke of a review. Pathetic, shame on you.
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agree, its unbelievable how such forum parasites can pretend to be more mature than the ones who defend their opinions with meaningful and reasonable claims, who take their time to explain why a review (that i didn't get to read sadly) is far off the mark.
On top of that, their SOLE overused and pretty silly "argument" (which is more trolling bashing, aiming to enrage than anything else) is that the others are "fanboys" (ad hominem of course, why bother) ,how often did i read this one on the forum?.... Oh yeah and they have inaccurate grammar....
err, can you actually add anything to the discussion, like, why you found the review accurate etc...?
you know , no one will hurt you, you can freely express your opinion, if you have one that is.
from levitate: "Me and actionfitz seem to be the only sane people in this sea of fanbois"
yeah right...
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if true, a degree of anger is justified and to be expected. opinion on the part of commentors who "agree" with the review is just as likely to be tinged by past experience with the game as opinion on the part of the "negatives" is by any alleged fanboyism.
note: long time AoC vanilla player, haven't subbed for the past year, have not yet played the xpac in question.
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I guess complaining really loudly does work, just like in politics.
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Because fiends are enemies, lol
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