Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 Review

Title challenge.

Version tested: Xbox 360

Whether you've been playing Pro Evolution Soccer since the PSone - chipping your PS2 to play Japanese copies of Winning Eleven between annual instalments - or whether you've been playing FIFA since it was isometric and never set eyes on the competition, this latest instalment of PES is going to take a little getting used to.

Yes! It's finally happened. Konami has succumbed to all the bullying and ripped PES up to start again. The result - somehow manhandled to completion before its traditional October deadline - shares some of the same philosophical DNA as its predecessors, which is to say it's still very hard to create chances and convert them into goals, but it feels different both to past PES games and FIFA's alternative.

In a year that's seen EA Canada tooting its own vuvuzela about improvements in passing, PES 2011 also makes great strides in moving the ball around. Impressive pace, a sensible passing power bar, a flexible fully-manual passing modifier and devilish through-balls keep the action just below the redline at all times, occasionally reaching a Barcelona-esque crescendo as everything clicks. The actual PES football is a bit of a beach ball, but its behaviour is consistent and slots nicely into the passing system Konami has rebuilt, heightening the excitement and tension with its sharp acceleration and abrupt deceleration.

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Team data is nowhere near up to date (Mascherano is still at Liverpool, for example) but presumably will be patched soon.

Control is also tight and responsive with some nice new touches, like being able to pre-program your own sequences of feints to map to a particular button combo, but all the same you never feel too comfortable in possession. Defenders can slide in successfully from a surprising distance and press attackers quickly in the final third so their progress is halted, even if they're not completely dispossessed.

All these things in concert mean that you are not going to score from outside the box more than once in a blue moon, and you won't be able to dance and pirouette from the edge of the penalty area to the six-yard box either. But conversely it's still easy and rewarding to move the ball around and slot through-balls between defenders. In contrast with FIFA 11, where chances and one-off spectaculars are also few, PES 2011 is fast, fun and attack-minded despite the fact you never end up with a Leeds vs. Preston scoreline.

Wrapped around all this is a much-improved graphics engine. Players mostly resemble their real-life counterparts, albeit with waxwork facial expressions, and their movement, animations and interactions during tackles and skirmishes in the box are more convincing than before.

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I probably spend more time on this screen than I do in matches some days.

While much of the last PES outing suggested the series was broken and did need fixing, that wasn't true everywhere, so some elements of that game have been inherited wholesale - the free-kick system being a good example. Team Style also survives the cull. One of the better additions to the series since it entered its decline, it lets you customise the way your AI colleagues behave in various scenarios and allows you to turn a game on its head with the right tweaks.

In fact, you'll probably spend a lot of time playing around on the Game Plan screen with formations, player positions and other instructions. The menus may be a little archaic, but the way PES is structured off the pitch is still superior to the competition - and official Europa League and Champions League licences are still welcome.

Master League remains the highlight though. It's still a carefully balanced mixture of fantasy football transfer dealings and long-term player development that will happily absorb hour after hour of single-player play, although playing against the AI is inevitably a lot less fun than battling a clued-up human opponent. The new online version sees you earning money from matches won, which you can invest in a transfer market where prices reflect demand from your fellow players, building your squad of nobodies up over time and graduating to higher divisions to play against opponents with similarly long-term vision.

With only a year to rebuild an institution, of course, there are still a lot of areas where Konami has work to do. Refereeing is inconsistent - you will appear to win the ball in a lot of tackles only for the ref to pipe up and give a foul the other way - and while the attacking style of play is engaging, it is frustrating to watch so many defenders ignoring a ball running slowly past them until it reaches the attacker running onto it, especially as this is a problem FIFA has now ostensibly eradicated on the other side of the football-game divide.

Perhaps most frustrating though is that shot after shot bounces back off the keeper or flies wide when the goal is gaping and you're manifestly directing your shot on target. The animation doesn't help in these situations either - the difference between what results in a fierce shot on target and a looping no-hoper that wafts away to the corner flag is too hard to gauge. It feels as though Konami built the free-flowing passing system first and then ratcheted up the difficulty of actually scoring to compensate for the imbalance it created.

Animation blending also feels like it's a few generations behind the norm, with players firing shots and long passes out of their feet at a visually incongruous pace, or changing the trajectory of a ball with a header despite running the wrong way and facing an impossible direction. Sometimes they even head the ball when it clearly makes no contact with them in replays - of which the game is guilty of displaying too many, perhaps obsessed with its divisive motion-blur effect.

There are also quirks galore. At one point a ball was cleared out to the touchline and a midfielder responded by bicycle-kicking it in the direction of the penalty area, where another player immediately bicycle-kicked it over the bar. Elsewhere, defenders often run the ball out of play when they should have no difficulty keeping it in, while the pivoting in-game camera is likely to divide opinion. At least Jon Champion and Jim Beglin's commentary is still reliably hilarious. Champion will reduce you to tears as he screams "Possibility!!" or says "Guess who!!" for no discernible reason.

Nevertheless, while FIFA 11 may be the better, more polished and controllable simulation of football, in many respects PES 2011 is the more charismatic of the two games. If you're only interested in the finished article then you might want to wait another year for further progress, but in the meantime PES fans can hold their heads high, and fans of the beautiful game are on the road to being spoiled for choice again in light of this encouraging instalment.

PES 2011 is released on the 8th of October for PC, PS3, Wii and Xbox 360.

7 / 10

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  • Ikari2001 #1 2 years ago

    Tight match between PES and FIFA this year then
  • Zomoniac #2 2 years ago

    Shame they didn't rip up and start again with the animation and ball physics.
  • andywilkie35 #3 2 years ago

    Not getting either this year I don't think, maybe I'll go back to PES next year if it continues to improve back to the glory days
  • Eurolamer #4 2 years ago

    Shame. Was really hoping for an '8' this year.

    Well, I was hoping for a '10', but being realistic and all...

    I'll still pick this up. I just can't do FIFA.
  • The_Bloody_Kettle #5 2 years ago

    FIFA this year, like the last few years for me.
    But, next year? Who knows..

    Looks like fun!
  • Goffee #6 2 years ago

    Have to say, the commentary seems to relate to some other match, rarely does it apply to the one I'm playing - but the game itself is emminently likeable.
  • killyourtv #7 2 years ago

    Remember the days when Pro Evo used to get 9 or 10 every single year.
  • MiniAmin #8 2 years ago

    I'm glad this has only received a 7 - PES5 destroyed my GCSEs. I'd hate to imagine how a great current gen PES would destroy my life!
  • Harmonica #9 2 years ago

    Has there been any notable improvements or additions to Master League?
    What about Be a Legend?
    What is the AI like in handling different match situations? Is it entirely predictable?
    Did they fix Master League online compared to the beta?
    What in fact is Master League online like, at all?

    ...if you're a fan of football game reviews, it might be better to wait until next year when Tom next puts pen to paper and attempts to avoid answering as many of the relevant questions as possible.

    6/10
    Edited by Harmonica at 01/10/10 @ 11:24
  • varsas #10 2 years ago

    Nice review Tom; this was how I felt about the demo. I'm not sure which one to buy this year...
  • TonyHarrison #11 2 years ago

    I've been playing the demo a lot, and I really love the changes. There's great satisfaction in pulling off a perfect through ball for Messi to run on to and then dink the ball over the onrushing keeper.

    Of course, it remains to be seen how that will work with the lesser lights of the game, because I can't see it being as enjoyable attempting to do that with a team like Blackpool (unless they've gone for the FIFA system of every player can play inch perfect passes, even third division centre backs).

    There was enough of a 'new' feeling to warrant a purchase at some point (not now, maybe in a month or two), and I just didn't get that feeling from the FIFA demo at all...
  • jambo74 #12 2 years ago

    Think perhaps next year may see a return to PES I think. This year is FIFA 11 however.
  • onezeonx #13 2 years ago

    I have BOTH games (well my bro has pes2011...but I'll say it's mine lol)

    Pes is very good but a 7 score is far IMO
    It's something Konami can now build upon and aim for 8/9 scores next year.

    Fifa 11 is class and deserves a 9 ATM. Few bugs/crashing issues stop it being a 10...for now
    Edited by onezeonx at 01/10/10 @ 11:36
  • jambo74 #14 2 years ago

    FIFA system of every player can play inch perfect passes, even third division centre backs?

    How so - you just turn OFF the ASSISTED passing and suddenly...
  • Onelove1867 #15 2 years ago

    I thought this read higher than a 7 in all honesty, although personally the score is irrelevant. I've bought every FIFA and PES/ISS since around '98, and will again this year. Given the improvements made to PES though, and that I've enjoyed the demo more, I may stick with PES.

    Also, part of me was actually pleased to read about the strange quirks. Even the heady days of PES 5 reduced me and my mates to tears with some of the hilarious bugs and holes. Ridiculous overhead kicks (or players kicking the ball into the air against their own face, knocking themselves over, which is a personal favorite) are long term parts of PES' soul.
  • jonbwfc #16 2 years ago

    To be honest, this review reads like Tom is trying desperately to come up with reasons why this is better than FIFA, but can't find any justification for saying so very often. It's 'more charismatic'? What on earth is that supposed to mean? That its more likely to steal your girlfriend than FIFA is?
    And also no mention of online play, which has been phenomenally broken in PES for every iteration on the PS3/360.

    Bah!
  • UkHardcore23 #17 2 years ago

    Still cannot believe in this day and age Konami are still really struggling with animations, the basic running animation is the worst!
  • marcgiu #18 2 years ago

    Looks like it may be the game of choice come 2018.............
  • thesonglessbird #19 2 years ago

    Pre-ordered, but I might buy FIFA as well...just to tide me over til next week.
  • Power_n_Glory #20 2 years ago

    Fifa’s score was harsh. It should have got a 9, Tom couldn’t find much fault with Fifa but just said it was less fun and gave it an 8. The gap between Pro and Fifa is much wider than that. But this all boils down to personal preference and Tom prefers Pro Evo.
  • Power_n_Glory #21 2 years ago

    @cheeky_error

    In the Fifa 11 review, he marked down Fifa because they fixed the many bugs in the gameplay like the chips, half way line goals etc


  • NotSoSlim #22 2 years ago

    Well as usual single player namely ML will be better on PES. Playing manager mode on FIFA and already I an bored.

    Shame that single player is really shallow and online (maybe correctly) is given all the attention imo
  • varsas #23 2 years ago

    Charismatic might be a way to describe the feel of the game. From the demos I certainly like the feel of PES more than FIFA although the latter does play better for the most part.

    @Power_n_Glory: No he didn't mark it down for fixing the bugs at all.
    Edited by varsas at 01/10/10 @ 12:01
  • Power_n_Glory #24 2 years ago

    @varsas

    It was used as a negative. He said something along the lines about the bugs giving the game its own personality or some rubbish. It was a negative.
  • Darren #25 2 years ago

    @UkHardcore23 - I'm not sure whether it is still true of 2011 but apparently Konami don't motion-capture all the animation for Pro Evo Soccer (if any) like EA do for FIFA. This probably explains why some of the animation has looked odd over the years with running animation IMO being the worst. It has gradually improved though but is still somewhat behind FIFA which continues to look more and more realistic each year.
  • blackbriar101 #26 2 years ago

    Good review, quite a bit of time invested this time around.
  • razzastuta #27 2 years ago

    When I read this, the review "feels" like an 8 to me. So where did the mark down come from? Just the poor refereeing and the fact that the ball doesn't touch the players head in replays? If it has more "charisma" than FIFA11, then doesn't that suggest that he enjoyed it either more or equally?

    I think somebody already picked up that Tom missed out other features that PES2011 has in store. Apart from Master League, hows the multiplayer side of stuff been like? Has that improved? What's the kit editing like Tom? How about the creation of Stadiums too? Copa Libertadores?

    I shall still get both FIFA (PS3) and PES (360) but I've found Eurogamer's reviews of FIFA and PES sorely lacking in comparison to other gaming websites. They both needed more detail, but that's just my opinion.
  • Power_n_Glory #28 2 years ago

    Was hoping it would be better because the ML is a plus. I really miss playing that. Developing young players and watching them turn into monster players...oh the joy. Heard so much about the new ML system and it's even better than what I played way back when.

    The gameplay is the let down and I can't come back to this.
  • basiclee #29 2 years ago

    I'll get PES for the first time since PES2008 this year. FIFA is certainly the better game but based on the demo i just get a really good feeling from PES 2011.
  • eiocreative #30 2 years ago

    What piss poor reviews by Tom, final verdict is it's more charismatic? Yeah, right, sums it up. What bollocks!
  • enfilade #31 2 years ago

    I must say, I'm not surprised by a 7, having played both demos to death. Two or three years ago I would've been disappointed that Pro Evo was under-performing (indeed, I was disappointed), but I can't see Pro Evo winning me back soon. FIFA truly is an excellent football game now, almost certainly the best and most enjoyable I've ever played, which is great, but it has always pipped PES in one area that people often seem to stay shtum about these days: licenses.

    Even if the two games played just as strongly as each other these days, I'd still plump for FIFA despite my nostalgia for those heady days on PS2. Because, you know, it's nice not having to spend 2 months trying to work out the names of clubs and players in the teams. One memorable favourite of mine was 'Arc Hugo,' a Left-centre back in North East United side of a few years back. It literally must've been April until I realised that he was Aaron Hughes. Arc Hugo!? Hilarious.

    Ok, maybe I take it back, the shoddy licensing in PES does have it's moments...
  • lucky_jim #32 2 years ago

    I skipped FIFA 10, so there's a point in me getting FIFA 11. I just don't think the changes between each annual edition of either game are (usually) enough to make it worth forking out for. Unless you're playing online a lot there's no need to have the latest version every year, and as I pretty much exclusively play multiplayer footie games locally, I can quite happily place my footie game-buying on a two-year cycle.

    I hope PES gets to the point where it's better than FIFA again though, I miss the Classic Holland team!
  • arcam #33 2 years ago

    @enfilade

    Aren't there option files and mods to fix that up? Always used to be on PS2 versions.

    Don't know if it would work on consoles but on PC I'd always add kits with sponsors and fan chants and stuff, so it always ended up much more realistic than FIFA anyway.
  • swissorc #34 2 years ago

    Two things whats the WII version like please Eurogamer i'm a bit annoyed how you keep ignoring the WII to the extent you will not even mention it in multi-platform reviews while simultaneously not posting it's own. Two, does everyone else think the problems with PES11 are almost to the T similar to Fifa 09's. I didnt buy Fifa10 (once every two years is my bag) and the issues with keeping the ball in play and poor variation between shots going straight at the keeper and going well wide are un-canny. Not sure my point but just wondering if anyone agrees?
  • CHAZBIGPOTATO #35 2 years ago

    Can I play as Luton?
  • Markitron #36 2 years ago

    That review was awfully brief, and the last 3rd was just Tom recounting odd occurances that he encountered. Surely that could have been 2 lines at most? Id read IGN's review but what the fuck do Americans know about football?
  • NotSoSlim #37 2 years ago

    @enfilade

    Err all the names are correct and have been for years all that needs editing are kits and team names.

    At least EA have not forced Konami to stop making a challenger like they did with 2K's NHL and NFL games.
  • enfilade #38 2 years ago

    @arcam

    Yeah, the mods did exist, but I must confess that I didn't really understand how to make the transfer to the PS2 back then, and they were never as good as the real deal. Kit sponsors had to be made of two stickers placed together, limiting the number you could include in the game. Plus, you'd have to be really super-lucky to find a mod for, say, Oxford United, or Notts County. FIFA comes with it all these days. I dunno, if I can play the game as I like out of the box, or have to read instruction manuals and download this to here and find a flash drive for that there, I know which I prefer.
  • arcam #39 2 years ago

    Fair enough. I always quite enjoyed messing about with my games, and in a lot of cases the community-made stuff was better than EA's, so it was never an issue for me.
  • Sulphur_Man #40 2 years ago

    ".....defenders often run the ball out of play when they should have no difficulty keeping it in"

    Is that a quirk? As a long-suffering Hammer, this feels all too realistic.
  • Zebula77 #41 2 years ago

    Bah, I timed my vacation so that I'd be able to play this game straight for four days. It was supposed to be out yesterday here in Norway. Now it seems they've changed the date to the 7th. Weird.

    Anyways, will be first in line when it comes out. :D
  • Diogo_Ribeiro #42 2 years ago

    I still play International Superstar Soccer Deluxe for Snes and Captain Tsubasa for Sega CD. Those are way more than enough for any footy needs I may have. Sorry, hyper real next gen people.
  • Deckard1 #43 2 years ago

    nice to see it getting better again. Judging from the demo's though, its still a hell of a long way from catching fifa.
  • mcwildcard #44 2 years ago

    Gah, could do with some blurb about the improved editor, I gather there's even a stadium editor this time round, so I'm assuming they're really gone to town on the editor function this year.
  • mcwildcard #45 2 years ago

    @Diogo_Ribeiro: Well done for being kooky and different, I'm surprised you are able to post on this comments thread from your BBC B Microcomputer. Nice cords btw.
  • Power_n_Glory #46 2 years ago

    9.0 from IGN UK
  • Rodchenko #47 2 years ago

    it is frustrating to watch so many defenders ignoring a ball running slowly past them until it reaches the attacker

    This. Drives. Me. Nuts.

    I know it's due to the new defensive control system, but the question remains why Konami had to change something which has been established for nearly a decade and needn't be fixed in the first place? They'd better put that effort into the animations and the ball physics.

    Very level-headed and fair review, btw, especially given that Tom used to be a PES fanboy back in the days.
  • Power_n_Glory #48 2 years ago

    6 from Edge - They hate it.
    Edited by Power_n_Glory at 01/10/10 @ 16:24
  • Lonestar #49 2 years ago

    I really enjoyed the PES 2011 demo considering I thought the 2010 one was abysmal. The last full version I played was 6 which I picked up for the princely sum of 99p at the beginning of the year.

    The major problems for me with 2011 is that keepers sometimes dive in an odd manner as though they have lead boots. They also seem to concede some very weak shots on target particularly from free kicks. Crossing is another bug bear where every time I cross the ball, I connect with a team-mate around 7 or 8 times out of 10; far to frequently.

    Three things in my opinion I'd like to see in future PES':
    .Trigger player runs (without removing players individuality)
    .The jostling system from Fifa when the balls in the air
    .The flick right stick move when recieving a pass; also from Fifa.

    I do find you have to be bolder in your passing than in Fifa, you need to be confident in that the ball will reach it's intended target.

    It's nice to see the opposition AI utilise all the pitch and pass around the back occasionally and there's a real sense of ebb and flow in a game. Although I'm not sure if Konami have tempered the likes of Messi a bit too much, in the 2010 demo he was incredibly difficult to defend against, now not so much.

    Also I'd like to mention the atmosphere of the games. I don't know whether it's the colour palette or the lighting, but PES matches feel more 'alive' whereas Fifa comes across as sterile.

    All in all I'd say it's a vast improvement over past games but by no means the finished article and between this or Fifa I'll plump for PES this year particularly as I'm more interested in a challenging single player career / master league mode.
  • Diogo_Ribeiro #50 2 years ago

    @mcwildcard:

    It's called "playing something much more appealing to me", actually.

    But if that's being "kooky" to some people, it's not nibbling at my sleep.
  • Chufty #51 2 years ago

    Refereeing is inconsistent - you will appear to win the ball in a lot of tackles only for the ref to pipe up and give a foul the other way

    Sounds pretty realistic to me.
  • vizzini #52 2 years ago

    I think that the changes to defending and passing in PES 2011 are awesome, and the drag and drop formation system make this the best version of PES I've played in a very long time.

    The PS3 demo certainly feels better than a 7/10 gaming experience when I play, but I guess we all see the beautiful game from a different perspective and want to play the game differently.

    I always like to make minimal tactical changes and rely on Konami's meticulous scouting and player adjustments; maybe just ship out the odd player to the bench that I don't rate (or don't like) and hope my passing/attacking game dynamical shapes my team to allow me to win.
  • stodge #53 2 years ago

    Thanks for the review - I'll pass. The animations still look awful and it sounds like there are still too many silly issues that really shouldn't exist.
  • Postumo #54 2 years ago

    It's still robotic, and playing the demo I wasn't able to think a way of playing that wasn't about going forward like crazy, because, sincerely, players don't move without the ball as well as they do in FIFA.

    For me, this year's Fifa is a bit heavy and hard, but i know i'll get to manage it. PES... i just don't get it, seems old after a few years playing FiFA with all its complexity.
  • immateriaux #55 2 years ago

    Found the demo to be a lot better than last year, to the point where I am considering getting it again. But two things in the demo have made me uncertain. One was the bizarrely inconsistent referring: making a simple, well timed tackle in the penalty box only to have the ref point to the penalty spot is not the way towards an enjoyable game. The other thing was having a wild wide shot at goal which the keeper ran out to, basically, re-direct into his own net for an own goal.

    The look and feel of the game is a lot better than last year but still seems to be a very inconsistent, blotchy kind of game which I'm not sure I would enjoy all that much (if the demo is properly reflective of the released game).

    Edit: I guess that means I don't like "quirky" games?
    Edited by immateriaux at 02/10/10 @ 20:23
  • superdelphinus #56 2 years ago

  • SJGSpook #57 2 years ago

    Lets be honest and call a spade a spade. PES now and for the last 6 years has been utter garbage. That is a sad fact and being someone who was a fan from the beginning when ISS came out in 1994 on the SNES there is nothing I would like more for it to return to greatness and kick FIFAS arse. Unfortunately it is lightyears away and until they rip it completely to bits and fix a simple but crucial factor that being the ball phyics and build from there PES will never return to where it was 10 years ago. The animations are sloppy, the ball motion is pitiful and refereeing seems to be like it was in PES 5 where you conceded a foul for breathing on them. Based on the hight standards the PES has set in the past I would not give this a 5. Konami must have lost their staff over the years because this PES is unrecognisable from the game I loved years ago.
  • arj7 #58 2 years ago

    Eurogamer again has a differing review from the rest of the reviews out there. I think 7 is too low, that sounds like a poor game, when compared to 2010 its a world away. Its not a FIFA killer yet but its the closest its been for years
  • vizzini #59 2 years ago

    SJGSpook: Lets be honest and call a spade a spade. PES now and for the last 6 years has been utter garbage. That is a sad fact and being someone who was a fan from the beginning when ISS came out in 1994 on the SNES there is nothing I would like more for it to return to greatness and kick FIFAS arse.

    If you worked in football game development, I suspect you'd be copying PES's innovation; not FIFA's, and that is how it has been internally for almost all football development studios since ISS Pro released on Playstation and showed us something very special.

    Yes, the versions of PES since 2007 on 360/PS3/PC felt like sloppy ports at times, with little evolution, but the DNA of PES's is so good, that to call any of those games garbage just sounds wrong.

    Fifa has now become a good football game with the coveted license, having been a sliding tackle slog fest meets track and field for the most of the ps1/ps2 years. But I seriously doubt that Fifa team believe their current game is better than PES 2011 when they discuss PES professionally in development meetings.

    Selling a game is a war of public perception; which Fifa has been winning in recent years. But making or refining a good (football) game requires unbiased analysis and brutal honesty in contrast to competing products, and that is why FIFA has been closing the gap in recent years imo.
  • Vedfolner #60 2 years ago

    Really enjoyed the demo and will be getting this on day one. FIFA 11 still has that boring distinct FIFA-ish non-football feel.
  • awb83 #61 2 years ago

    As usual though, PES no doubt plays a better game of football then FIFA. But it terms of an overall package FIFA wins, it is that simple.
  • BM #62 2 years ago

    @awb83 - really? I played the PES demo and found the fact I didn't actually have to try and aim when passing (just a general direction would suffice) extremely annoying. To me there is literally no skill in stringing together a large number of passes, whether it's because I've been playing with manual controls on Fifa for too long could well be the case...
  • CosmicGypsy #63 2 years ago

    @killyourtv - "Remember the days when Pro Evo used to get 9 or 10 every single year. "

    ok, done. Now what?

    Anything else you would like to tell us to remember?
  • visarino #64 2 years ago

    just got the copy this morning been playing for 3 hours yea there is a place for improvments but honestly im not a pes fanboy just dont understand how pes got reated this badly is`t EA burbin review sites and mags with $$$$$$$$$ to give sutch a review to fifa 11. 95 % 97% and 10/10 in some cases,come on fox surley playing fifa is for kids like haveing 11 players singin jingel bell jingel beel jingel all the way .... one shot that all what it takes and
  • visarino #65 2 years ago

    just got the copy this morning been playing for 3 hours yea there is a place for improvments but honestly im not a pes fanboy just dont understand how pes got reated this badly is`t EA burbin review sites and mags with $$$$$$$$$ to give sutch a review to fifa 11. 95 % 97% and 10/10 in some cases,come on fox surley playing fifa is for kids like haveing 11 players singin jingel bell jingel beel jingel all the way .... one shot that all what it takes and PES dose`t with its through balls cant even compare uffffff
  • layleeloo #66 2 years ago

    After being a Fifa man for the last four years I was gonna get PES this year regardless if it was said to not be as good as Fifa this year. But you know what - its simply preference. I loved Fifa 10, but found Fifa 11 is plagued with the same issues as Madden, over complication. Over emplasis on sim which is forcing all the fun out. EA have done the same with the NBA games, why do you think they are bringing back NBA Jam? Sure I have noticed some issues and there are frustrations like no button to trigger player runs, slight inconsitancy where button presses are concerned before your player is on the ball - BUT, I think many of these can be overlooked by the sheer gameplay and what games are means to be about - FUN! Trouble is with sports games is I dont get the empasis on such realism - if I wanted 99% realism I'd go out and kick a ball. I want fun games which Fifa has always been but I think is slowly losing itself al-la Madden.

    My mate and I who have been playing all afternoon have managed to pull off some of the best screaming goals we ever have after only a couple of hours play. Some of these simply would not be possible in Fifa. SOme may say thats bad, but from a fun point of view it is entertaining and that is what I was looking for this year. So colour me very pleased with my purchase and change over this year.

    HOWEVER - it has been laggier than long laggy laggy thing all afternoon which has been pissing us off no end! If Fifa has proven the last years you can have totally seemless online play in a football game there is no excuse for PES this year. Hopefully they can sort this out asap then I will be even happier than I am now with my decision to change.
  • layleeloo #67 2 years ago

    p.s. I forgot to add - maybe its just how uuterly crap I am at it but this new penalty system is really fricking annoying. Its ridiculous. But I guess at least its a change to the norm which again, is what I am after this year so maybe I wil have to do some research on how to do penners. Only 1 MM of movement lon the stick left or right sends it as far wide of the goal as it does when you push the stick as far as it can go? I just dont get it?

    I have since found a good channel on yourtube with tips. Sure is weird but at least I know now! :)
    Edited by layleeloo at 08/10/10 @ 18:27
  • layleeloo #68 2 years ago

    SORRY to dominate the board with three posts in a row but can someone offer help/advice?

    Anyone else had hurrendous lag on it? My net is 10 meg, my mates is 20, we have been Fifa men for the last 4 years with seemless play, no lag at all (Xbox 360) yet playing this today has had terrible lag for probably 50-70% of the games no matter which server I chose to go on. We both re set out routers etc. Its a nightmare. Anyone got any suggestions? Is this normal for PES? This is not meand to flame any Fifa better than PES argument - I just need help or advice as im not used to this after Fifa has run so smoothly for us. Thank you.
  • Mattuk123 #69 2 years ago

    layleeloo, to get the hang of penalty kicks go to training mode, freekicks. Should take about 5 minutes to get used to it. press shoot to start your run, then choose your direction and then power(with the d-pad)
    Edited by Mattuk123 at 18/02/11 @ 09:17
  • layleeloo #70 2 years ago

    hahaha you gotta laugh. I praise the game and still get negged. Its hillarious. Must be the fifa fanboys since I have betrayed four years of fifa'dom haha
  • jamesmunroe #71 2 years ago

    http://www.proevolutionsoccer2011.co.uk - Option File for Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 PS3 includes:

    * Correct team names
    * Correct team squads including starting line-ups and formations
    * Correct team strips - home, away & goalkeepers
    * Correct player names & numbers
    * Correct competition & stadium names
    * Player transfers up-to-date as of Summer 2011 transfer window
    * This option file Update will work with online modes of PES 2011