Xbox 360 vs. PS3 Face-Off: Round Nine

By Richard Leadbetter Published 6 March, 2008

DMC4, The Club, Turok, FIFA Street, PES, Juiced.

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Welcome back to our ongoing critical analysis of the latest in cross-platform game development, as we take a look at another batch of games released on both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Recent skirmishes between the rival formats reveal that the Microsoft console still has a significant, quantifiable edge in terms of multi-format gaming quality, but in line with its improving sales figures, PlayStation 3 is gradually closing the gap.

For those of you who've somehow managed to avoid the last nine face-off features we've put together over the course of the last year, the basic objective of this coverage is remarkably straightforward - to provide console-specific commentary that supplements the existing Eurogamer reviews, with an emphasis on gameplay and technical differences.

The usual testing methodology is in place - the games are tested side-by-side, their video outputs losslessly captured in full 24-bit RGB precision via the HDMI ports of our PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 Elite, using a Digital Foundry HD capture system. With every single frame recorded and stored on an unfeasibly large array of hard disks, we can then pick and choose the exact same shots from each game for inclusion in our comparison galleries.

Onto this feature's gaming roster then, complete with its own range of discussion points and controversies: the first multi-format outing for Capcom's cross-format game engine, Bizarre Creations' first PS3 release, an Unreal Engine title that isn't the same on both platforms and - unbelievably - a bona fide, true 1080p game.

In the next instalment, look out for Lost Planet, Conflict: Denied Ops, Army of Two, Lost: The Game and several others...

Previously, on Eurogamer.net...

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  • LeeroyJenkins #1 4 years ago

    Seriously, these articles are pointless! Fanboi-baiting rubbish.

    Are they really the best journalism that EG can produce?
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 14:09

  • DAN.E.B #2 4 years ago

    Seriously, these articles are pointless! Fanboi-baiting rubbish.

    +1

  • miiiguel #3 4 years ago

    What's the score now ? 8 - 1 ?

    I think the fat lady sang...

  • Moonprince #4 4 years ago

    To many 'I this I that'. Fck you bored me silly :o

  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife #5 4 years ago

    As a non-PS3/360 adopter so far I welcome these articles.

  • nailerr #6 4 years ago

    One thing no one ever seems to mention is if they are using the Full RGB over HDMI on PS3 and more vitally if their capture equipment actually supports it (I assume your high end cap device does). The Xbox has similar settings as Expanded Profiles.

    The default HDMI settings on PS3 are lacking the bottom 16 shades of black and this makes a large difference if your TV actually supports it.

    Please. Tell us. I have a very simple JPEG test if you require confirmation:

    [link url=http:// www.spitelords.net/junk/Brightness.jpg
    ]http://ww w.spitelords.net/junk/Brightnes...[/link]

    If you can turn on Full RGB over HDMI on the PS3 and still see ALL 16 black squares (need to up the brightness to do so) then your TV supports this mode, if you can not see them, it does not. That simple.
    Will work on Xbox 360 too but mine has not got HDMI so I do not know which setting you need to change to test it.
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 14:37

  • DanWhitehead #7 4 years ago

    That front page picture is awesome. Especially if you imagine that the General Lee is being driven by Miyamoto.

  • monkie_king #8 4 years ago

    nailerr: actually, the original 60GB PS3 had the extra 16 shades of black, but they were removed alongside B/C in the 40GB SKU.

  • nailerr #9 4 years ago

    Damn your razor sharp wit, monkie king!

  • Trigga_Tybalt #10 4 years ago

    now they tell us pes2008 is not better than fifa...

  • Greebo #11 4 years ago

    "Don't see why anyone would complain about a 25 min install if it reduces load times overall. Are gamers that impatient these days?"

    But in this case it also takes a significant chunk of your HDD space and only results in a matter of seconds difference - and not everybody wants to upgrade the HDD.

    I've got both consoles, but would definitely go with the 360 version on that basis.

    EDIT: Also wanted to say that I'm a fan of these articles and when you have a choice of platforms to play on these comparisons are definitely useful!
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 14:29

  • DFawkes #12 4 years ago

    These article are a bit mince, the more I read. Reviews are a matter of opinion, fair enough. I can also see your preferred version also being a matter of opinion too, but using buzz words like anti-aliasing and lighting etc out of context to prove an invalid and untrue point is garbage (to be fair this isn't in reference to today's one, it was a previous one that had lies in it. I'm a bit slow :p ).

    The words are useless. Just stick up the gallery, and a couple of videos, and let us fanboys bitch it out! In all honesty, the only difference I've ever seen in any port of any game is, everything else equal, the PS3 version is a tad brighter looking (more gamma).

  • muftak #13 4 years ago

    what utter bullshit

    maybe my tv is setup different but after playing devil may cry 4 and turok they look fuck all like the shots you showed here.

    same as last time with burnout.

    ban this sick filth

  • Commando #14 4 years ago

    PS3 is inferior

  • Pedrolot #15 4 years ago

    These reviews dont interest me in the slightest..

  • GamesConnoisseur #16 4 years ago

    If you are tired of the frequencies of head to head, the best response is the fewer comments given to this article then EG would know that we are tired of it. However if its get up to 600 plus comments then this is what readers want!

    I know I added one comment here! Sure I was interested in this article at the beginning but by ninth iteration in so many months, with very similar conclusion throughout. What new?

    X360 is better than PS3 crowd give its credit for, but PS3 is not so shabby as X360 people would want everyone to think, its can better X360 in some area but not as much as X360 can edge over PS3. And in majority the difference are not large enough to be that noticeable and you have to be downright anal to spot them by having them running side by side!

    Gaming is there to be enjoyed whether on X360 or PS3 (or your preferred gaming machine), otherwise get a life!

  • TRUTH #17 4 years ago

    9 out 9 to 360...Just completed PS3 best game: Uncharted - while a nice game, I though I would be blown away by the graphics that PS3 fans have been going on about...Honestly! There is absolutely nothing that actually made me think that my 360 can't do or handle. Also the game was very very liner (fairly narrow follow the path). Halo 3's jungle section had alot more going in there, then any section of Uncharted. To me the PS3 still hasn't shown me anything that really take to the level or above the 360.



  • frod. #18 4 years ago

    These things baffle me.

    NEXT WEEK: rescaled lossless jpeg aspect ratio texture filtered lens flare butter cake house SHOCKER!!!

  • TRUTH #19 4 years ago

    Yhea! but Sony has been boating and lying to the consumers about PS3.

  • Wendelius #20 4 years ago

    I don't see what the issue with these articles are. They just give an opinion on how a game reviewed on one platform compares on the other so people can decide which one to buy. How is that baiting? And if you don't have either system, they can maybe help you decide which to go for based on whatever is in your must have game list.

    It's a bit more information to help you decide. Are people so personally invested in a system that they resent getting information on how a game compares cross platform? Isn't that a good thing? *shrug*

    Wendelius

  • Yaz #21 4 years ago

    I find these articles very informative.

  • miiiguel #22 4 years ago

    I honestly believe that PS3 is a fine machine, the problem, IMHO, is that Sony and Sony-crowd said for a year that PS3 would be "oh so much better, it's 4D!" and would "obliterate anything, game related".

  • millerlfc #23 4 years ago

    I quite enjoy these articles, find them interesting reading.

    No-one is actually going to use these as a guide to decide which console to buy, the articles are constantly repeating how minor the differences are anyway.

  • infoxicated #24 4 years ago

    EG page hits must be down again - gotta chase that ad revenue with the fanboy baiting, eh?

  • Muddtallica #25 4 years ago

    You know, for the life of me, I can't understand how these articles can be construed as system fanboy fodder, unless you're really determined to read them that way. I find it far more useful and interesting to read them as the writer says they're intended; as supplements to the original review texts that offer more console-specific analysis, point out unique issues and foibles, as well as indicating if either version has an advantage over the other. I find them an informative look at the ongoing progress of cross-platform development (you know, like the article actually STATES they're intended to be), and I'm sure they'd be of great use to a lot of multi-platform owners wondering which version to buy. Why the hell should EG stop printing them just because they attract a bunch of pedantic score-keeping system zealots to the comments page?

  • SeesThroughAll #26 4 years ago

    /takes a look in old game mags and tries to find face-off articles comparing the SWIV, Double Dragon or Treasure Island Dizzy C64 and Speccy versions.

    /fails to find them

    /wonders why

  • monkie_king #27 4 years ago

    It's good to see Bizarre (mostly) getting to grips with PS3. Hopefully they'll continue the PGR franchise in a new cross-platform guise, it deserves a wider audience. Plus Gran Turismo needs some decent competition.

    Anyone know what the other 1080p 360 games are? I know Virtua Tennis 3 is, and I think Beautiful Katamari is, too. I think RezHD is too, but I honestly can't tell (go figure).

  • QPRHOOPS81 #28 4 years ago

    pes 2008 isfinally playable on the PS3. Last night i put it on as my brother was around and it wanted to do a 145 meg patch. After the patch all the in game lag had gone(must be a new patch as it already has been updated before). replays were imporoved though still a bit pants. A great update though as the constant lagging whenever there was more than 2 players in view used to really annoy me.
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 14:50

  • Skooch #29 4 years ago

    "Certainly the notion of a 25-minute, 5GB install on PS3 is much more of an issue for me"

    As a non-PS3 owner, I didn't realise you had to cache 5Gb before you can even play the bloomin' game - how frustrating. Whilst we are having the advantages of Blu-Ray shoved down our throats this is a big fat disadvantage in my book - DVD for the win!

    Oh, and another round to 360...

    P.S: I like these articles too.

  • muscleblade #30 4 years ago

    "Seriously, these articles are pointless! Fanboi-baiting rubbish."

    So why do you read them and comment them???

    I like them - I feel good whenever im told i made the right choice when purchasing something.

  • muscleblade #31 4 years ago

    "9 out 9 to 360...Just completed PS3 best game: Uncharted - while a nice game, I though I would be blown away by the graphics that PS3 fans have been going on about...Honestly! There is absolutely nothing that actually made me think that my 360 can't do or handle. Also the game was very very liner (fairly narrow follow the path). Halo 3's jungle section had alot more going in there, then any section of Uncharted. To me the PS3 still hasn't shown me anything that really take to the level or above the 360."

    EXACTLY!!!!!


  • monkie_king #32 4 years ago

    Muddtallica: completely agree, I wish they'd have done these last gen, when I had three platforms to choose from for things like PoP: Sands of Time (ok, two platforms, the PS2 was pretty much always poorest). Used to have to resort to trawling through multiple reviews and forums to track this kind of information down.

    It's not really about about obsessively needing the version with the highest-res textures or whatever, more about avoiding one version if it's a complete clunker or if the gameplay is affected (long load times, bad framerates, poor control layout etc).

  • plok #33 4 years ago

    Do people care this that much? I never remember articles comparing SNES to Megadrive for example.

  • smelly #34 4 years ago

    GAH STOPPIT WITH THIS RIDICULOUS NONSENSE!

    Everyone knows that the 360 is more powerful than the ps3 - but the ps3 is going to outsell the 360 and get the best games

    Now who gives a flying fuck about a few pixel differences?

  • miiiguel #35 4 years ago

    So... quality doesn't matter as long as it "sells more" ? wow! a whole new level of fanboysm.

    What's your idea of fun? To read the Financial Times, instead of playing a game ?
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 15:05

  • knocker #36 4 years ago

    spiteful comments deleted. Spare the part about (a big hells angel cuddling a kitten ... tough yet sensitive) cos it calms the mind
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 15:33

  • asphaltcowboy #37 4 years ago

    Good article!

  • miiiguel #38 4 years ago

    knocker, touchy? when ppl go personal, someone usualy touched a "sweet spot".

  • Vin #39 4 years ago

    Good article.

    Cheers Rich, and apologies for the chimps in this thread.

  • jaxon58 #40 4 years ago

    Juiced 2 - "this piece could almost be considered a post mortem in light of THQ's decision to kill off the franchise and close down the development studio."

    Wrong! Dev studio didn't close down at all. In fact, Eurogamer reported as such.

  • knocker #41 4 years ago

    will not be mean on EG

    (copy and pasted 99 times)
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 15:34

  • agparrot #42 4 years ago

    a-ha - monkie king is *not* a random american person that I have shot in CoD4 asking to be my friend, he is a friendly EG person!

    /accepts Friend Request.

    Sort of feel that I, personally, have reached the level of my attrition with the Vs. articles, although I am waiting for when the PS3 starts to regularly trounce the 360 in them... when that time comes, I may even buy a PS3.

  • ronuds #43 4 years ago

    Seems the pissed off PS3 fanboys hate these articles, aye? :) Why not just ignore them then...

    I like seeing the difference, especially since before both consoles launched the perception was that these comparisons would be going in favor of the other guys.

  • Madlax #44 4 years ago

    Ahh....looks like Eurogamer is on Microsofts payroll system, shame really...i just love these 'Fair' and 'subjective' articles that are nothing more than fanboys flame-bait.

    it surprises me that the author didnt mention that the cut-scenes in the PS3 DMC4 run at 60 fps and may drop to 30 fps sometimes, as opposed to the 360 version where the cut-scenes are 30 fps only.

    well, i guess i cant blame them for doing there job, they need to live in the end so this is hardly an issue.

    for more informative arguments i suggest you visit the neogaf forums: there is a topic about this article:

    [link url=h ttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=250573
    ]http://ww w.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.p...[/link]

  • miiiguel #45 4 years ago

    knocker, wow, don't be mad at me. I'm friendly. I just feel that we shouldn't go personal (I had a few episodes here: from beeing called stupid because I said I don't want a PC and its cables in my living room, to comments to my late mother, so it might have something to do with that), that's all.

    Madlax, informative arguments in a forum... yeah, right. The issue is: where's the "oh so much better system" which was praised before beeing lauched. Most ppl by know seem to be happy with the "nearly identical", but a year ago it was supposed to be the second coming.
    Edited by 2 at 06/03/08 @ 15:32

  • MENTAL1ST Verified Senior Software Engineer, Picsel UK Ltd. #46 4 years ago

    It's amazing how the rabid 360 fraternity have switched from smug jubilation to furious defeatism in comment threads like this.

    Any moment now, we'll have someone slagging all these games off, and quoting Wii sales figures.

  • knocker #47 4 years ago

    @miiiguel

    You are entirely right. I have a generally sarky, piss-taking sense of humour. And it can come across as being nasty. I'll delete my original commen t and leave people wondering what the f'k we were talking about

    Apologies MB

  • ronuds #48 4 years ago

    Are you serious, Madlax? Don't you think you're being a bit dramatic?

    Why is NeoGaf considered the "authority" on the web? The people there seem no more intelligent or informed than any other forum I've been to.

  • Weezer #49 4 years ago

    As an owner of both systems, these are articles are going to be more and more important - if the price of cross-platform games isn't an issue, I want to make sure I buy and play the best one!

    If you only have one system why bother reading?

  • Muddtallica #50 4 years ago

    monkie_king: Thank you; Sands of Time is a particularly good example of a game whose different versions were worthy of specific analysis, due to issues such as differing levels of raw horsepower, diverse control schemes and console-specific content. Soul Calibur II springs to mind, too; I would have been very interested to see a direct head-to-head comparison on the three versions of that game.

    As for all the "who cares??" talk: well, I'm guessing that the EG staff assumed people visiting the site might care about actually getting the best game experience available, rather than tallying scores and cheerleading like it was some kind of cock fight. Shows how little they know, eh?

  • kojak71 #51 4 years ago

    From a selfish perspective having both systems it's good to have these sort of articles to help with purchasing decisions. I would like the scope of these comparisons to include the PC/Wii version where applicable. Although graphics are important, what interests me more is what system/input device the game is best suited to.

  • Madlax #52 4 years ago

    @ronuds

    Neogaf has many insiders from the industry, its also naturally filled with viral markeeters but you can learn alot from insiders arguments than some unprofessional article made to stirr fanboys debate and advertize for a certain system manufacturer.

    perhaps i,m been a bit melodramatic, it does however hurt me to see how purposely clueless some of the articles here are.

  • GitSomE_UK #53 4 years ago

    Keep these articles going EG I have both systems and I find it interesting when you do the comparisons.

  • zuljin #54 4 years ago

    Interesting article, but I very much disagreed with this statement from FIFA street:

    "The fact that EA is attempting to support 1080p at all boils down to the fact that FIFA Street 3 is a technically undemanding game."

    I don't think theres any game out there, bar maybe a Soduko game, that wouldn't know what to do with extra CPU cycles...

  • MangoBen #55 4 years ago

    "pes 2008 isfinally playable on the PS3. Last night i put it on as my brother was around and it wanted to do a 145 meg patch. After the patch all the in game lag had gone(must be a new patch as it already has been updated before). replays were imporoved though still a bit pants. A great update though as the constant lagging whenever there was more than 2 players in view used to really annoy me."

    Can anyone else confirm the PS3 got a new patch for PES 2008 last night?

    I hope so...the lag on the 360 online is unbareable and I'd love to think there might be a new patch on its way for the 360 version too...

  • miiiguel #56 4 years ago

    "I swear that my PS3 games look much better than the screenshots that they use here"

    Beauty lies
    In the eyes of anothers dreams
    Beauty lies
    Lost in anothers dream
    It's coming coming down
    Over me
    Do you want to see
    The explosions in my eye
    Do you want to see
    The reflection of
    How it used to be

  • Muddtallica #57 4 years ago

    Madlax: NeoGAF? That's what you're trying to pass off as your paragon of objective, reasoned debate? You must be bloody kidding me. I don't for a second believe Eurogamer to be staffed by all-knowing saints: they might be wrong, biased or corrupt for all I know, but they still have a hundred times more of a claim to respectability and professionalism than that hive of anonymous, unaccountable frauds and tosspots.

  • miiiguel #58 4 years ago

    Eurogamer, a couple of weeks ago was accused of being on Sony's payroll when they posted an article praising Blu-Ray..., it just swings, and swings... back and forth.

    One could think "hey, maybe this shit is all true..." but who would believe sucha "conspiracy-not" ?
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 16:05

  • miiiguel #59 4 years ago

    I believe you. Different set-up, diferent output. But for comparision purposes what matters is using the same for both boxes. Anyway, I also believe diferences, in graphical/performance issues are minimal. What makes some diference (to me) is stuff like the integrated Live system (and I'm used to it by now); the install a-la PC on some PS3 games also anoys me; and I can't help but comment on the "PS3 will be so much better" that I heard oh so many times before it came out.

  • Nithron #60 4 years ago

    I actually quite like these articles.

    But that's because I hate sony from the bottom of my black heart to the top of my desecrated halo and i love reading about how inferior they are to their closest competitor, because that's just the kind of person i am.

  • QPRHOOPS81 #61 4 years ago

    "pes 2008 isfinally playable on the PS3. Last night i put it on as my brother was around and it wanted to do a 145 meg patch. After the patch all the in game lag had gone(must be a new patch as it already has been updated before). replays were imporoved though still a bit pants. A great update though as the constant lagging whenever there was more than 2 players in view used to really annoy me."

    Can anyone else confirm the PS3 got a new patch for PES 2008 last night?

    I hope so...the lag on the 360 online is unbareable and I'd love to think there might be a new patch on its way for the 360 version too... "



    I didnt try online but offline was massivly improved.

  • speedjack #62 4 years ago

    So in summary - slight improvement overall in quality of PS3 cross platform development, but the 360 still ahead by a nose.

    BTW - I like these articles too... and I couldn't give a toss about about whose console is best/worse or whose can pee highest.



  • goon-uk #63 4 years ago

    These articles don't bother me so much. The 360 runs the majority of ports better but the biggest thing imo is that gap is getting closed with every new multi format release and as long as they look the same ( The big ones, ie DMC4, Burnout, Cod4 - Not the rushed money making bodge jobs) and run the same it doesn't matter.

    I have both and I prefer my PS3, From a personal stand point I prefer the controller and the fact the machine doesn't feel like a creeky toy. Add to that I can chuck in a 200gb HDD for £60 and copy all sorts of lovely HD content from my computer.

    I played the Turok demo though and it ran awful on my PS3 though, That and it was a poor game. DMC4 runs a treat and installing a game doesn't bother me at all. The others? I couldn't care less about as is common place PES2008 is awful on the PS3.

  • darc #64 4 years ago

    I'll cast one vote for "these articles are good and informative". They provide a sense of what real-world value is available in each of the platforms, irrespective of their core technical merits. They also flesh out the game reviews themselves. How often have you read a comment in a multi-platform game review and wondered, "does that apply to the X version?"

    Bottom line, if it doesn't interest you, don't read it. I'm not especially interested in the office politics at Sony and EA, but I don't imagine the related articles are pointless. I imagine they're intended for someone else.

  • mouse Verified Graphic designer, Eurogamer Network #65 4 years ago

    I think we're all missing the key issue here, and that is: what a fabulous headline image this article has.

  • urban #66 4 years ago

    stop doing these =[

  • prolific8 #67 4 years ago

    Better quality cross-platform games, better (and more) exclusive games, plus plenty to look forward to this year including GoW2 and extra content for our (inevitably superior, based on all nine face-offs so far) GTA4. Yes Mentalist, we 360 owners are crying into our cereal at the impending uselessness of our consoles. Never mind though, only another decade or so at last months sales figures until the install base of the PS3 catches up. Victory is assured!

  • darc #68 4 years ago

    "Add to that I can chuck in a 200gb HDD for £60 and copy all sorts of lovely HD content from my computer."

    THAT is a BIG deal. I just bought a 120G XBox360 HDD from Microsoft, and after wasting several hours realized this was not possible. Let me tell you, I was not a happy camper. Now that I understand all the things MS won't let me do, I also understand that I did not need this overpriced accessory. Grrr.
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 16:42

  • goon-uk #69 4 years ago

    They are good for the most part, I think sometimes though looking at still screenshots isn't always the best way to judge the games. High res - 10 second clips? That would be better :).

  • Dizzy #70 4 years ago

    9-0? It gets worse every time.
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 16:42

  • darc #71 4 years ago

    Here's another spin: the articles are good. The comments that follow are consistently pointless. ;)

  • goon-uk #72 4 years ago

    "THAT is a BIG deal. I just bought a 120G XBox260 HDD from Microsoft, and after wasting several hours realized this was not possible. Let me tell you, I was not a happy camper. Now that I understand all the things MS won't let me do, I also understand that I did not need this overpriced accessory. G"

    Ouch, I feel your pain. In general I have had far more problems with settings things up on my 360 than I did the PS3. You would think it would be the other way round?

    "Better quality cross-platform games, better (and more) exclusive games, plus plenty to look forward to this year including GoW2 and extra content for our (inevitably superior, based on all nine face-offs so far) GTA4. Yes Mentalist, we 360 owners are crying into our cereal at the impending uselessness of our consoles. Never mind though, only another decade or so at last months sales figures until the install base of the PS3 catches up. Victory is assured!"

    Yeah definate, The releases of MGS, MGS online, GT5, Killzone, Final Fantasy and little big planet will just slow PS3 sales down.......

  • morriss #73 4 years ago

    It has and always will be true for this gen: buy your multi's on the 360. Look forward to your fantastic exclusives on both consoles.

    Easy.

  • Bertie Verified Senior Staff Writer, Eurogamer.net #74 4 years ago

    These columns should be called "Shitty PS3 Port Round-Up". Seriously.

    :D

    I do find it surprising that the 360 seems to outperform the PS3 consistently in these pieces. Not that anyone cares, of course, because it only matters which console you have and support.

  • goon-uk #75 4 years ago

    It's not supprising at all. The 360 is quicker and easier to develop for. It uses pretty much the same formula a PC does. The PS3 doesn't, Sony has tried to be clever and we'll have to see if it works out for them.

  • Zappa #76 4 years ago

    meh,EG was bought buy m$..look how everything is puke halo green.

    Resistance looks better then all and was a launch game.

  • mouse Verified Graphic designer, Eurogamer Network #77 4 years ago

    "look how everything is puke halo green."

    Are you colourblind?

  • Eighthours #78 4 years ago

    I can't wait for the comments war when the GTA roundup is posted in a few weeks' time! :)

    It's good that the PS3 versions are gradually getting closer, and it all should be even-stevens by the end of the year. But what these articles mainly do is to embarrass the hideously optimistic projections that the PS3 is massively technically superior to the 360. It simply isn't.

  • miiiguel #79 4 years ago

    "meh,EG was bought buy m$..look how everything is puke halo green."
    wow! anything goes, literaly! Blue is now green because PS3 is da beast!, and this doesn't make any sense, but who gives a toss?
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 17:08

  • cyber_nicco #80 4 years ago

    Why do these comparisons always upset PS3 fans so much?

  • goon-uk #81 4 years ago

    "It's good that the PS3 versions are gradually getting closer, and it all should be even-stevens by the end of the year. But what these articles mainly do is to embarrass the hideously optimistic projections that the PS3 is massively technically superior to the 360. It simply isn't. "

    Pretty much, but then I never expected the PS3 to be that much better if at all but most of that came from the early days of the 360 release where it was less than impressive. Since then it has had some very pretty games. We'll know in a few years. What made me laugh is another poster stated that the PS3 has the graphical power of a top end PC graphics card. oh dear............

    "Why do these comparisons always upset PS3 fans so much?"

    I think it's more down to the baiting from the 360 lot.

  • tonynibbles #82 4 years ago

    RGB Full looks off in the PS3 screens.

  • miiiguel #83 4 years ago

    I swear, if I wasn't so afraid to be brain-washed (like the examples that spawn on the internet) by the uber-awesomeness of owning a PS3 (which rules them all) I would have one.
    I mean (and with due respect to the ones who don't fall for that), most PS3 related sites are filled with "we rule 360!" comments and such. It almost seems like the critical spirit vanished porpotionaly to the lackluster of the gaming side of this box. The worse it does, the more the coments get agressively positive and without criticism whatsoever.
    Edited by 2 at 06/03/08 @ 17:22

  • monkie_king #84 4 years ago

    Yay, this is the best console war ever!

  • goon-uk #85 4 years ago

    There is no difference from a PS3 fan site than a 360 one. What the majority of people forget on a almost daily basis is the pS3 is a year behind the 360. Fast forward a year and the games the PS3 "should" have. There pretty much even but one has a blue-ray player and a easily changable HDD and the other is made of lego and sounds like a jet engine. meh ;)

  • miiiguel #86 4 years ago

    "There pretty much even but one has a blue-ray player and a easily changable HDD and the other is made of lego and sounds like a jet engine. meh ;) "
    Fortunatly, I can't fast forward a year..., should we indulge an unfished product, just because it's a PS ?
    That was exactly what I was talking about. If you also said the "other one" has the best games my sentence would be wrong.
    And platform related sites are not equal..., not even close..., just google it, specialy before PS3 launch and you'll see what I'm talking about.
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 17:30

  • andromeda #87 4 years ago

    yep these are totally pointless...there are at best a few minor differences between the ports..with the exception of the Orange Box of course,...and they make for TOTALLY DULL ARTICLES

  • monkie_king #88 4 years ago

    Does the PS3/360 debate remind anyone else of intelligent design vs. evolution?

    360: "Look at all these fantastic games you can get. And the multiplatform titles are demonstrably better." -- Science.

    PS3: "Just wait until all these big upcoming titles come out. And PSN is finished. And we get rumble. Wait and see, in another year the PS3 will prove its vast superiority. Have faith!" -- Religion.

  • miiiguel #89 4 years ago

    yeah, PS is a satanic drug thing, I can't understand it...

    Later.

  • goon-uk #90 4 years ago

    "Fortunatly, I can't fast forward a year..., should we indulge an unfished product, just because it's a PS ?
    That was exactly what I was talking about. If you also said the "other one" has the best games my sentence would be wrong.
    And platform related sites are not equal..., not even close..., just google it, specialy before PS3 launch and you'll see what I'm talking about"

    I'll have to lend you my machine one time......

    In all fairness I don't go on specific sites I tend to go on neutral ones. I think EG is the best around for being pretty much in the middle.

    As for Games? Baring Mass and Bioshock the games for me are pretty much even. Come June 12th, it will all change. Metal gear mania will get going soon enough and every man and his dog will be buying a PS3 to play it. I know I did and it's 3 months off.......

  • effinwooly #91 4 years ago

    so the 360 is better.......move on

  • goon-uk #92 4 years ago

    "Does the PS3/360 debate remind anyone else of intelligent design vs. evolution? "

    Compare the games the 360 had a year ago against the PS3's now and they are the same, debatebly the PS3 would have the better selection.

    More of a case of 360 users convincing them self they don't need a PS3, But we all know when the big guns hit they will go buy one for the games and a cheap Blue-ray player.

  • Apologie #93 4 years ago

    These articles are biased and don't reflect the true power of either system... Ps3 strong point is not multiplatform games, but the on-line (free and improving services) and the amazing exclusives and diversity it can offer.
    Ps3 is indeed the best/most reliable console in the market, as well as the best investment in terms of overall value/features (blu-ray etc..) Sony's machine lifecycle is much bigger too and with amazing games down the road... Sony still invests in the Ps2 and that reflects the commitment they have towards they'r costumers and products.

    These articles are worthless and more and more people will start to ignore them (except the X360 fanboys that desperately want to grab anything to trow)... all i care is the big titles, not these average piece of garbage.
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 17:55

  • syphon92 #94 4 years ago

    cmon EG, stop that allready

  • markyh #95 4 years ago

    Its not surprising that PS3 owners are now pushing the benefits of having blu ray - what else can they push? Despite Sony's initial promises and the short sighted optimism that PS3 owners have for their system, the fact remains that Xbox 360 has the better exclusives and runs the majority of multi-platform games better. I have no love for MS and I always intended to buy a PS3 by this stage but why should I (the exclusives for 08 don't appeal that much)? Aside from Blue Ray what does the PS3 give me over and above the Xbox 360. Maybe in a year who knows but by that time standalone Blue Ray machines will have come along way (particulaly now the format war is over) and like DVD's did with PS2; dedicated units will make the PS3 version look like the budget version. Also, as UK Broadband continues to become cheaper and faster I'm also very interested in the download services than bothering about Blu Ray. I'm sure PS3 owners will have a go but at the end of the day, seriously, what have you got to shout about? Over to you.
    Edited by 1 at 06/03/08 @ 18:10

  • Gaol #96 4 years ago

    "European gamers should think themselves lucky they weren't lumbered with the 20GB PlayStation 3 hardware"

    Erm I beg to differ. It cost me £343 at US launch (cheaper than the price here for a long time after even if I include the £40 I have since spent on a 120gb SATA). It has full hardware backwards compatibility which, yes, I care about for NTSC RPGs and all the other PS2 stuff I missed when I was awol playing SWG (I have God of War incoming fromn the states for £7 :p).

    Sorry but easily upgradable HDD > no chance of ever playing PS2 stuff upscaled.

    Edited by 1 at 07/03/08 @ 14:09

  • MightyMouse #97 4 years ago

    Well mark holroyd, it's really very simple. By the time the download services in the UK are capable of managing the amount of data you need to get an HD movie in a reasonable amount of time we'll already be in the next generation of consoles, and download rental services are rather overpriced for what you get anyway. The idea that discs are dead is just not true, indeed of the three versions of the 360 available, only the elite would really allow you to store quantities of HD content, so obviously MS doesn't think discs are done with just yet either.

    The exclusives are a question of personal choice - personally I'd rather have LBP and uncharted, you'd rather have halo. Fair enough, but you have to accept that in the realm of exclusives there really isn't a clear winner, it's a subjective question. The multi-platform games have generally been basically a draw, you may notice that in most comparisons the differences are said to be negligible, and certainly in the games I can imagine anyone wanting to play that is the case (who's really going to play Turok?). Demanding more diffrerences between the 360 and the ps3 seems rather odd since they set out to do very similar jobs, but if you're not content with blu-ray then playtv is coming before iptv is being offered, and seems more concrete. Also since you can upgrade the hdd of a ps3 without voiding the warranty, storing HD content is much more viable with a ps3, and the content won't be crippled with DRM.

    No offence, but you are a fanboy. I am too, but let's not pretend we have objectivity.

  • darc #98 4 years ago

    "Ouch, I feel your pain. In general I have had far more problems with settings things up on my 360 than I did the PS3. You would think it would be the other way round?"

    Yeah, you would think that. The night I realized I couldn't move my massive (and legal I might add) MP3 collection from my PC to my XBox, I basically threw an anti-MS temper tantrum. My wife sorta called me on it because I've always been a relatively pro-MS PC-oriented kinda guy, and that's when it occurred to me: between their rampant DRM schemes, fluffy and redundant applications (Zune + Media Player 11 not to mention 47 flavors of Vista) they are beginning to resemble the likes of Apple more and more.

    I hate this increasingly prevalent model of "intelligent", "user-friendly" design when it comes to software. 9 times out of 10 it keeps the user in the dark as to what is really going on and serves mainly to protect the interests of the content providers. Give me the old days of simple nuts-and-bolts applications and raw data, please. This is the sort of philosophy I *used* to associate with PC computing, and by association, with Microsoft. Those days are over, sadly...
    Edited by 3 at 06/03/08 @ 18:24

  • Melan #99 4 years ago

    why not go ps3 vs. xbox360 vs. PC. That would be a real interesting read.

  • goon-uk #100 4 years ago

    "why not go ps3 vs. xbox360 vs. PC. That would be a real interesting read."

    It would be a no contest.

  • mcmonkeyplc #101 4 years ago

    Christ xbox wins, now stop!

  • goon-uk #102 4 years ago

    Trebell, I have both. What's your point?

    Also read the post again. I didn't once state it has the better games now ( Although saying that uncharted was better than anything I have played on the 360).

  • ~j~ #103 4 years ago

    360 wins.
    Again.
    sony owners will never accept it.
    Pointless really.

  • onyxbox #104 4 years ago

    I'm sick of these Face-Off's, Eurogamer... I don't read them anymore, please stop making them and grow up and start writing some good Features instead.


  • riz23 #105 4 years ago

    Yes no more fan baiting face-offs please. How about a final wrap up round ten where EG examines the technical and economic reasons for the differences between these two, predicts the trends up to say 2010 and then let the whole issue lie?

  • SeesThroughAll #106 4 years ago

    To be fair, these face-off articles ARE useful for updating the ignore list. :)

  • TRUTH #107 4 years ago

    FACT: 360 - 9 PS3 - 0
    FACT: PS3 was ready at the same time as 360. PS3 was only delayed to Sony unable to manufacture enough Bluray parts - this leading to the delay in PS3 retail release.
    FACT: Development kits were already shipped out to key developers at the same time or even before 360 dev kits. Remember: Resistance, Motor Storm, Uncharted being shown back in early E3 2005.
    FACT: Games sales are fairly poor on PS3, esp compared to development cost for the console.

    If Sony didn't big mouth PS3 hype to a level it simply hasn't and cannot do - I would have been a little less disappointed; esp when I can get games like plenty of cross format games that look/play and cheaper on the 360 - Esp: The Orange Box (which was ruined on PS3 eg HL eps 2).

  • Xerx3s #108 4 years ago

    "Compare the games the 360 had a year ago against the PS3's now and they are the same, debatebly the PS3 would have the better selection."

    Erm, no it wouldn't.

    "More of a case of 360 users convincing them self they don't need a PS3"

    Thanks for psycho analysing just about anybody over the web. You're smart eh?

    "But we all know when the big guns hit they will go buy one for the games and a cheap Blue-ray player."

    You people said that last year as well. And the year before that. Face it, it has some games coming it's way but nothing stronger than other platforms and nothing near the flood that came to the 360 in the past 9 months. As for the BRD, it hasn't even entered early adopter stage and most people that own a ps3 don't even know it does BRD films.

  • Calgon #109 4 years ago

    *Deleted* It's pointless bothering talking sense... these are teh console warz! It was there in the Nintendo and Sega days and the Atari and Amiga days before that... its just never been so bad because the Internet makes it so much easier to do(well it does actually seem nastier than ever these days because its much bigger and more money is involved... probably), instead of Carrier Pigeons like the old days.

    ----------------------------------------------

    These face off articles arent that bad really I think even the people who are complaining were pretty interested(or they wouldnt still be reading them)... the ones getting the most worked up are the ones who dont like the results, some are amusingly in denial("cheaters cheaters, been bribed";).

    Im not too bothered about them myself except maybe for refering trolling Sonybots to should they ever be confused about this topic... I can see it would be usefull for people who own both consoles though.
    Edited by 7 at 06/03/08 @ 23:19

  • jimmymacdaddy #110 4 years ago

    Hey all, X-Box owner in Peace here. I have to laugh, I used to be a zealot and was a staunch supporter of Sega, from Master System, through 32X, to Dreamcast via Saturn. Eventually I turned to the dark side and bought a gamecube, lo and behold, I didnt sprout a moustache and become a dungaree afficionado, I learned to appreciate games such as Mario Kart, Smash Bros and Resident Evil 4. Still never got into Zelda though.
    Anyway, the sniping tactics are so familiar to me... if the PS3 had come out so comprehensively on top in the article, we would see a total inversion of the comments here! No doubt PS3 owners would be lauding the validity of these articles rather than licking their wounds.
    Also, those people who masquerade as owners of both Consoles, just to then totally diss one in preference of the other, give me a break, it will take at least another few years of saving your pocket money to afford a second console.... Look at yourself in the mirror and ask why you engage in such folly.
    I've seen X Box owners just as bad in other articles which favor PS3, most recently, the articles highlighting the demise of HD DVD.
    I bought the XBox because I seriously dislike the PS3 joypad. But I am miffed that I wasted money on the HD DVD add on... Blu Ray integrated into PS3 was a masterstroke in marketing, XBox owners should recognise that. But mainly I like to play games and once I see a reason yet to shell out for a PS3, I will. I have the wonga, and I have no doubt awesomeness is on the horizon.
    So please, grow up, when you're not playing games, try looking at women, going for a beer or maybe cage fighting. Theres too much going on out there, rather than simmering and stewing over Console Wars... you'll all end up bitter and twisted like Daniel Plainview. I'M FINISHED!!

  • caligari #111 4 years ago

    Hmmm...it's strange how TRUTH, ApoIogie and Miiiguel all seem to appear at exactly the same time.

    /strokes chin

  • Kryon #112 4 years ago

    Brilliant first post jimmymacdaddy! It seems the SDF have acquired such intelligence that they can now create a second UID and pretend to be an unhappy 360 owner who completely agrees with the Sony fanboys on all issues... Nice try though...You may now leave in peace.

  • Muddtallica #113 4 years ago

    Kryon: Where did you get the idea he was an "unhappy 360 owner", pretend or otherwise? The only negative thing he said that was even tangentially related to the Xbox was his disappointment over the death of HD-DVD. Is that enough to make you a fanboy troll these days? If so, I'd better leave too, or else I might accidentally let slip that I watched a Blu-ray film once, or something equally as inflammatory.

  • caligari #114 4 years ago

    Why do these odd people never post in the main forum?

    Is there some kind of 'moron' force-field? :)

  • warbo #115 4 years ago

    NVM


    These features could be really useful when there isn’t a demo available for both systems. There was for DMC4, and Eurogamer are spot-on with the comparison. If you don't have both systems, none of this should matter.
    Edited by 3 at 07/03/08 @ 01:19

  • Pulsar_t #116 4 years ago

    Why are you slagging Rich for showing off his technical prowess? :p

    As for visual comparisons, they're not exactly new either; Doom (32x vs Jaguar), Streetracer (MD vs SNES), MK3, Wipeout, Loaded etc.

  • Falbala #117 4 years ago

    The PS3 is the clear winner - sharper image, better colour, higher poly count models and hi-res textures.
    On the other hand the 360 has better graphics.

  • drumbaby #118 4 years ago

    Stopped reading after the DMC 4 comparison....what faux-scientific drivelling ballhang. :/

  • Les #119 4 years ago

    "To be fair, these face-off articles ARE useful for updating the ignore list. :)"

    +1

  • Les #120 4 years ago

    @ Xerx3s

    "Thanks for psycho analysing just about anybody over the web. You're smart eh?

    "But we all know when the big guns hit they will go buy one for the games and a cheap Blue-ray player." "

    You people said that last year as well.

    pot-kettle-black...

    "As for the BRD, it hasn't even entered early adopter stage and most people that own a ps3 don't even know it does BRD films."

    He was specifically referring to the anti-PS3 posters around here, who all know that the PS3 has Blu-Ray... But otherwise you're right.

  • Darren #121 4 years ago

    Personally I'm getting more than a bit bored of these articles because you know straight away which format is going to be the best one in most cases... the Xbox 360, and they come far too late for me, as a multiformat owner, to be able to choose which multiformat game to buy. Thank goodness for playable demos really as some of the comments from EG are subjective rather than factual.

    For example, I bought Devil May Cry 4 for the PS3 after having played both the 360 and PS3 demo. I liked the fact that the latter played better with the Dualshock 3 controller and that it had better texture filtering and NO screen tearing. Having finished the full version on the PS3 twice and having played through the 360 version once (thanks to a friend lending me it), I never saw any tearing in the PS3 version at all. If it was there then it was far less noticeable than on the 360, particularly the forest section which was horrific on Microsoft's platform and suffered from more slowdown. It's a great game on both formats but the PS3 version is the one I prefer.

    Also I bought the PS3 version of PES 2008 because I thought it would be better than the 360 version. BIG mistake!!! The PS3 version was awful, not only suffering from slowdown in cinematics and replays, but also depending on which stadiium and/or camera angle you used, suffered from horrendous framerate issues ingame as well as screen tearing (something EG neglected to mention!). I sent it back to Gameplay and got the 360 version instead and although the replays still suffer from slowdown, ingame it played far better than the PS3 version did with very little slowdown (except in crowded penalty boxes) and absolutely no screen tearing. And I can play in any stadium and with any camera angle too, I don't have to disable features or play from a certain camera angle to make it playable. Unlike the PS3 version, the Xbox 360 one was at least playable out of the box!

    Since that "ordeal", I've been more cautious about buying multiformat releases for the PS3 but at least Burnout Paradise and Devil May Cry 4 were upto scratch. Shame that so many other games on the PS3 still remain inferior but at least I can take comfort in knowing that they weren't great games anyway, e.g. Turok, Juiced 2 and FIFA Street 3.

  • Sulphur_Man #122 4 years ago

    Juiced 2 review, interesting to read about how Max Power magazine has lost that many readers. And a bit puzzling considering there's as many modded runabouts on the roads as ever.

    Have to say, that Juiced 2 piece, regardless of the crappy game itself, sounded a bit like someone's dad bemoaning 'today's youth'.

  • JYM60 #123 4 years ago

    Whoa, ps3 shots look far better!

  • Les #124 4 years ago

    "and they come far too late for me, as a multiformat owner, to be able to choose which multiformat game to buy."

    True. EG should include it as a standard part of multiformat reviews (so demand they get versions for all formats, which will probably be ignored though). This comes so late it's only purpose is flame bait.

  • ChromeMud #125 4 years ago

    Ken Kutargi - "But teh CELL!!!"
    Bill Gates - "Just keep swimming, just keep swimming, just keep swimm......"

  • TRUTH #126 4 years ago

    Darren:

    I know the fact is DMC4 on 360 is better. Have both consoles and connected the correct way to my pioneer 50'' plasma HD.
    360 looks sharper and better color depth, also smoother animation; you'll notice if you play both side by side (I just flick channels and check). Just tried Stranglehold today - PS3 suffers against the 360.

  • Kryon #127 4 years ago

    I've said from the beginning that DMC4 is overall slightly nicer looking on the 360 and I'm not surprised EG agree, some people may prefer to use a PS1 pad but that's just down to personal choice, screen tearing though very slight is visible on both versions but it's so minor that it's no big deal on either system. It's the jaggy blurryness that lets the PS version down and unfortunately this has been and always will be a problem for PS3 games because the system is not designed to put out the same quality of graphics as the 360.

  • Kryon #128 4 years ago

    "360 was the lead SKU on most (if not all) these games."

    Nope, 360 was not the lead platform for all of them. All are nicer on the 360 though.

    "it's inevitable the 360 versions are going to look slightly better."

    This is true under any and all circumstances, well done! +1 for insight!

    (GT5 eats n' shits PGR4 visually)"

    PGR4 is old, GT5 isn't out yet, I could just as easily say PGR5 will eat 'n' shit GT5. Who cares anyway, Forza is the best racer there is regardless of visuals.

  • Les #129 4 years ago

    "Eurogamer should stop taking the piss and compare games that were specifically designed for each system i.e. GT5 vs. PGR4 (GT5 eats n' shits PGR4 visually)."

    I agree that comparing exclusives would tell you more about the strengths of the respective consoles but I'd think there are more important areas to compare them than the visuals (though of course much harder to do). I don't believe in it but one would hope that this gen of plastic toys would take gaming further than just upping the pixel count...

  • Yaz #130 4 years ago

    Les wrote: "...this gen of plastic toys would take gaming further than just upping the pixel count..."

    There were many gamers who said that about last gen, and the gen before, and throughout the history of PC gaming.

    IMO, this does gaming a disservice, since although graphics are always the most prominent indication of change and progress, the additional power of the 360 and PS3 has brought more innovation to gaming than you give them credit for, and will continue to do so. The Wii has also brought innovation, but in a different way, it's no better or worse than the 360 and PS3 in this respect.

    Regarding Zero_Cool's comments, compariing exclusives is always flawed, because you are rarely comparing like with like (PGR4 is NOT comparible to GT5 and it's ridiculous to treat them as if they're the same, especially when their release is so far apart!). It's true exclusives tells us about the strengths of a console, but they do not tell us about the strengths of one console compared to another (i.e. 360 vs PS3), since in many cases, the _same_ devs could achieve equally great results if they were working exclusively on the other console instead.

  • slayaz #131 4 years ago

    I don't even care about the article, I just love all the comments!

  • Kryon #132 4 years ago

    Truth hurts, eh...

  • seedaripper #133 4 years ago

    *coughs* and mutters under ones breath...twats - ahem...sorry? who me? no..you must of misheard, what i actually said was 'TWATS'
    Edited by 1 at 11/03/08 @ 00:40

  • DFawkes #134 4 years ago

    My opinion of these article: Pointless but I love them and the comments :)

    My opinion of the games I've seen with my own eyes running on both consoles, same level, type of cable, and TV - exactly the same. That's Devil May Cry 4, Oblivion, Burnout Paradise, DW Gundam, Bladestorm, Call of Duty 4, Timeshift, Sega Rally, Guitar Hero III and Lost Planet. I've played all these on both, and not one runs better on either console. FACT! (Warning: Not a fact at all, but just an opinion like the article itself, and equally pointless :p )

  • Darren #135 4 years ago

    @Kryon - I never noticed any screen tearing in my two playthroughs of the PS3 version of DMC4 (not that I was looking for it admittedly) but I saw plenty of it in the 360 version, especially in the forest section and near the waterfall. The fact that I noticed it in the 360 version tells me all I need to know. As for jaggies, where the PS3 version has noticeable jaggies so does the 360 version and any differences are very slight in play as to be negligible as far as I'm concerned (unless you stop and scrutunize both games side by side in which case the Xbox 360 version is a teensy-weensy bit better) hence my decision to go for the PS3 version. The PS3 version has superior texture filtering over the 360 version and marginally quicker loading times too, especially when accessing the menu screens. I believe it is the better of the two games technically even though it's slight and that combined with the Dualshock 3 controller made it the best version for me but then I played the previous three games with the same kind of controller on the PS2.

  • Kryon #136 4 years ago

    Darren, I like you, but I disagree :)

  • TRUTH #137 4 years ago

    Darren
    I've noticed less detail, animation, color depth, more jagged edges and screen tear (Though hardly noticeable on both consoles), on my PS3. I can name the sections of the game if you want to check and you can see the obvious PS3 faults compared to the 360, esp the use of color depth and textures. The odd frames of animations are missing to from PS3 version. The 360 is a better conversion. Strange as DMC4 was previously PS3 exclusive and started development on PS3 first!

  • Darren #138 4 years ago

    @TRUTH - Well we'll have to agree to disagree then because I still maintain that both games are nigh on identical for the most part with only minor differences between them making one subjectively better than the other. As I said, I've noticed no screen tearing in the PS3 version at all (and, no, I don't want to look for it, thanks...) but I've noticed some nasty texture shimmering in the 360 version which isn't in the PS3 version. The 360 version does have marginally better AA but the difference is minimal IMO; the PS3 version is certainly no jagfest because it uses temporal AA. I also like the motion-blurring effect in the PS3 version and I think the ice demons look better too. Nothing major, just little things I picked up from numerous plays of both demos which convinced me to opt for the £10 more expensive PS3 version (in the steelbook case!). The Dualshock 3 was the ultimate reason I opted for the PS3 though, it just felt better to play than the 360 controller (hated using those uncomfortable bumper buttons). Having since played the 360 version in full, thanks to a friend lending me his copy, I have no regrets about buying it for the PS3 version as I feel it was the best version for me... but only just. ;)

    P.S. Colour depth can depend very much on your HDTV and the settings you're using. On my Sony KDL-32D3000 HDTV using HDMI @ 720p for both the 360 and PS3, DMC4 looks absolutely identical in terms of colour as do other games like Burnout Paradise which I also have on the 360 but then I use slightly different picture settings for both to compensate. ;)

  • Les #139 4 years ago

    @ Darren

    I admire your patience and perseverance... ;)

  • Liggur #140 4 years ago

    "Criterion-coded SSX..." - you are sooo right!!

  • TRUTH #141 4 years ago

    Darren look on every article - 360 is a better conversion; color, animation, effects, etc. The 360 pad is miles better designed then the PS3. I have a Pioneer Plasma 1080p...My brother (younger) also has a PS3 and just today I connected the 360 to prove that there is a difference between the 2 versions. He has a Sony Barvia 1080p (My Pioneer color is so much better :)). The tv's are set up correct as where all technically minded about these things. At the end the color depth, animation, effects are better on 360. I notice even more the slight missing frame animations in PS3 - look side by side you'll notice it more, otherwise you won't.

    Oh! I have a PS3 and 360 (PS2, Dreamcast, Sega Saturn) ...Like to compare the games just for the fact.
    Edited by 2 at 12/03/08 @ 21:16

  • captain-future #142 4 years ago

    I like these articles!

    First, I own (of course) all consoles so I can pick the better version and second: It's just fun to see how the PS3 fanbois react to the constant ass-whipping by Xbox 360.

    *LULZ*
    Edited by 1 at 12/03/08 @ 21:02

  • Lez #143 4 years ago

    @captain-future

    I'm liek a fake business analyst innit liek bruv, I liek know dat teh M$ is teh fuckin doomed coz me mum told me and I got da true analyst skillz innit but liek dik-edz like you don't undastand dat shitz innit so I'm gonna just ignore you innit! I ignore anyone who dosnt agree wid me and my fuckwit biased apinionz innit, I also liek to akt superior to every one bekoz me daddy brought me up to be a total cunt.

    meat IGgy innit!!!

    /feels good, wanks over PSTRIPLE, goes to bed early (school tomoz innit)

  • Lez #144 4 years ago

    Anyway, now dat I've egnored dat pryk, I kan git bak on topik innit. Teh lickle amount ov attach rate from PSTRIPLE is teh means dat M$ be teh shit but I no dat treesixtee yutes don't wanna ear dat innit but MGS4 iz liek da system seller innit, I don't like no mist Walka games coz I'll wait for da real final fantazy innit, PSTRIPLE fans is teh win. Wii is good because if I say dat then people wont call me a fantard liek innit.

  • tnomad #145 4 years ago

    HATE THESE ARTICLES! HATE HATE HATE!

  • smelly #146 4 years ago

    >HATE THESE ARTICLES! HATE HATE HATE!

    They get over 100 posts in the comments for each one.. so while the fanboys keep posting about them.. i'm sure they'll keep doing them.

  • RKOwned #147 1 year ago

    lol, it amazes me how far weve come in this area since this time. Jsut wanted a retro perspective on this.