Xbox 360 vs. PS3 Face-Off: Round 17
LOTR Conquest, Tomb Raider, Prince of Persia, Saints Row 2 and loads more.
It's the first face-off of the New Year and with it, the opportunity to bring the cold, hard, iron first of order to the games cupboard by rounding up the games we really should have covered by now, but didn't for reasons too numerous and too tedious to get into. It's also the chance to take a look at how the first high profile release of 2009 - EA's Lord of the Rings: Conquest - measures up under Eurogamer's unyielding scrutiny.
As we've got a lot of software to get through, we've bumped up the interesting games to the front of the feature, then grouped together the rest in the form of smaller, round-up featurettes at the end. However, as per the norm, all games get the full screenshot gallery treatment - captures losslessly derived from the HDMI ports of both consoles at full range 24-bit RGB precision. Where PS3 outputs a 1080p signal on any given game, additional galleries are provided, along with their 360 counterparts.
For the headline games there's also the customary video coverage. Set your Flash Player to 'high quality' to appreciate the full might of h264 encoding, or check out the author's blog if you want to download bandwidth-saturating full-HD versions running in real time, optimised for playback on PS3, Xbox 360 and dual-core PCs.
Onto the line-up then:
Previous Face-Offs:
- Round One (Ridge Racer 6/Ridge Racer 7, Def Jam: Icon, Fight Night Round 3, Virtua Tennis 3, NBA Homecourt, Need for Speed Carbon)
- Round Two (Call of Duty 3, F.E.A.R., Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2007, World Championship Snooker 2007, NBA 2K7, NHL 2K7, Enchanted Arms, Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII)
- Round Three (Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent, Sonic the Hedgehog, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Tony Hawk Project 8)
- Round Four (The Darkness, Spider-Man 3: The Game, The Godfather, Madden NFL '08, NHL '08)
- Round Five (Virtua Fighter 5, SKATE, Transformers: The Game, Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Colin McRae: DiRT, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, SEGA Rally, FIFA 08)
- Round Six (Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, NBA Live 08, Need for Speed ProStreet, Stuntman Ignition, WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2008, The Simpsons Game, Conan, Assassin's Creed)
- Round Seven (Kane & Lynch: Dead Men, TimeShift, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2, Tony Hawk's Proving Ground, Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock, Blazing Angels: Secret Missions of WWII, Medal of Honor: Airborne, Dynasty Warriors: Gundam, Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War, LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga, Clive Barker's Jericho, John Woo Presents Stranglehold)
- Round Eight (Burnout Paradise, Cars Mater-National, The Golden Compass, Beowulf, Ratatouille)
- Round Nine (Devil May Cry 4, The Club, Pro Evolution Soccer 2008, FIFA Street 3, Juiced 2, Turok)
- Round Ten (Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2, Blacksite: Area 51, Army of Two, Conflict: Denied Ops, Lost Planet: Extreme Condition, Dynasty Warriors 6, Lost: The Video Game)
- Round Eleven (NFL Tour, Dark Sector, Soldier of Fortune: Payback, SEGA Superstars Tennis, MX vs. ATV Untamed, Turning Point: Fall of Liberty, Condemned 2: Bloodshot, Viking: Battle for Asgard)
- Round Twelve (Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, Race Driver: GRID, LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures, Overlord: Raising Hell, UEFA Euro 2008)
- Round Thirteen (Unreal Tournament 3, Robert Ludlum's The Bourne Conspiracy, Top Spin 3, Iron Man, Battlefield: Bad Company)
- Round Fourteen (SoulCalibur IV, Mercenaries 2: World in Flames, Kung Fu Panda, Beijing 2008: The Official Videogame of the Olympic Games, Guitar Hero: Aerosmith, FaceBreaker, The Incredible Hulk, Madden NFL 09, Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09, NHL 09)
- Round Fifteen (BioShock, Dead Space, Pure, Midnight Club: Los Angeles, Spider-Man: Web of Shadows, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed)
- Bonus Round: The Orange Box
- Bonus Round: Grand Theft Auto IV
- Bonus Round: Fallout 3
- Bonus Round: Call of Duty: World at War
- Bonus Round: Far Cry 2
You may also like...
-
The Making of Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath HD
-
Dead Island: Ryder White Review
-
Hirai: Sony could be facing "serious trouble"
-
THQ reveals plans for 1.4m unsold uDraw tablets
-
BioWare suggests keeping Mass Effect 3 saves
-
Lumines Vita Preview: History Repeating
-
Skyrim PC Creation Kit release date announced
-
Dirt Showdown Preview: The Ghost of Destruction Derby
-
Mass Effect 3 Preview: The Good Shepard?
-
Final Fantasy 13-2 Review
-
Redundancies confirmed at EA Canada
-
Aliens: Colonial Marines trailer shows gameplay glimpses
-
Cannon Fodder 3 is… well…
-
App of the Day: Bag It!
-
The Witcher 2 Xbox 360 enhancements trailer
-
Eurogamer.net Podcast #98: Resident Evil and the Circle Pad Pro
-
US lawmaker proposes 1% tax on violent video games
-
SoulCalibur 5 Review
-
Sony on Vita sales: "we do not think we have any problems"
-
Official Uncharted: Golden Abyss Vita case announced
-
Namco Bandai enters SoulCalibur 5 DLC debate
-
Atari "dream team" reforms to make games for "the new arcade", iOS
-
The Last of Us: first in-game screenshots, new gameplay details
-
Valve teases secret Team Fortress 2 project
-
Mass Effect 3 Facebook app rewards Xbox 360 players









Comments (126) 1 year ago
Comments threads automatically close after 30 days, but please feel free to continue chatting on the forum!
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
All that said, it's no suprise thanks to Sony coming clean about their incredibly clever tactic of deliberately making PS3 hard to code for so we will be blown away in 6-9 years time.
Anyway, time to cast Lvl 9 Rash' and Les spells to inject some humour into this thread.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Actually it's more like...... "There's hardly any difference to be honest, not sure why I do these any more."
Comment below viewing threshold Show
A definite example of an 'almost but not quite' release, this latest Spyro adventure initially looks very promising - full 720p, 60fps, tons upon tons of nice graphical effects, full-on 4x multi-sampling anti-aliasing (on Xbox 360 anyway, zero AA on PS3)
shit man, you are good
you should play the lottery
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Nope, thats the Wii.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
That said, as a gamer, I want the game that plays best - and I have a 360.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
You're quite right. Apologies to all for mentioning the "W" word.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
...
seriously now, what setting should you set your PS3 to , to have the tv do the upscaling?
Comment below viewing threshold Show
/can't be assed to read this tripe. Buy both.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
If they were done at the same time as the review to allow owners of both consoles to make an informed choice, then they'd be a valuable resource. As it stands, they're just another piece of throw-away video game writing that Eurogamer uses to fill its pages.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
So far as I'm aware, Sony don't allow anywhere near that level of stats for PSN IDs. Hence one reason for the lack of integration on various websites. I'd like to have PSN details in my profile but the closest I can get it putting my ID in the blurb
PESKY FACTS
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Now that is interesting. If these features weren't just about the visuals, and also included stuff like this (as well as possible dlc and other game differences) they'd be useful. Not that I'm one for trophies, but I'd prefer the Achievement filled 360 version, if price is equal.
I thought Trophies were mandatory now though?
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Tomb Raider was last year, its all this year forwards that has support.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
I hope EG includes his opinions in the next GOTY roundup because I doubt it anyone connected with the site in an official capacity has played more games.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
This is Tomb Raider!
Comment below viewing threshold Show
PS won the Tomb Raider one...clear evidence that the tide is turning
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Well, that's subjective. Depends whether you prefer controls or graffix!
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
I bought Saints Row 2 on the PS3, but regretted not getting it on the 360 as soon as it started tearing to absolute fuckery. Im not usually one to complain about it, but it really is horrific.
But since both versions seem cursed......
Not that it matters, its a brilliant game regardless.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Xbox = Recycled code from the last game.
PS3 = New engine led on PS3.
Result = barely noticable, any improvements in detail(which arent too noticable) have come at the cost of framerate and tearing... kind of pours cold water on the "when devs lead on PS3 the PS3 will pull ahead" talk since its happened on quite a few occasions now and the results have been... meh!(I mean 2 years ago who thought the PS3 fanboy would resort to celebrating cross platform games that just manage to match the 360 version without givin' away any obvious advantages?)
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
out of 123 games, 59 have better framerate on 360 vs 6 on PS3
17 have noticeable technical inferiorities on 360 vs 70 on PS3
Comment below viewing threshold Show
I sat and looked at the FarCry 2 comparison and the difference mainly appeared to be PS3 in one corner of the screen and 360 in the other.
Also the way it was talked up I was expecting Fallout 3 to be some veritable shitfest. Cue the utter non-surprise that it wasn't.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
You can play blu ray movies and uncharted atleast
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Get a better hobby.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Just when is this day going to come that PS3 fanboys keep telling you about? You know, the day when the PS3 mutli-platform games are better.
Oh and to the guy who tried to say to me on here that the PS3 MP games were now superior to the 360 versions: **** you
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
FFS!
Comment below viewing threshold Show
You paid 700 Euros for your PS3? No wonder you are bitter.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Yep. And about the 17th time you post that line, too
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
or 129-23 on aggregate
Comment below viewing threshold Show
I'm with septimus actually. Have you seen articles on any game. Unless it's a PS3-exclusive, the image of the game (on the right side) will ALWAYS and ONLY show the 360 copy. If EG were even a little impartial, they would at least have separate pages for PS3 and 360 versions, or at the very least show both 360 and PS3 versions, or at least mention prominently that this is also a PS3 game (and not the small, barely-visible blurb on the Product page, mentioning "Also on"
With this much of 360 bias exhibited everywhere throughout the website, is it any wonder that the 360 appears to win every time, at least on this website? Hell, every single article will exhibit a Pro-360, anti-PS3 spin. This would be apparent ONLY if you read with an open mind, not tinged with green
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
360 is better for multiformat. I still buy my multiformat stuff on PS3 because it's region free which means cheaper games and my 360 is out of warranty so i'm not willing to risk it dying.
These articles are a stupidly biased idea. They're in the 360 section of the website for Christ's sake.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
The fact that you find it acceptable to have to pay to replace a badly designed console is insane. If my 360 dies, i probably won't replace it. I'll miss the exclusives but fuck MS for making such an unreliable machine.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Is it me, or is the green 'play' arrow on the Tomb Raider video look like it is unfortunately placed?
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Yes - Kryon's well-thought out response to whatever I said is so illuminating. Thank you Kryon! Let me know when you ACTUALLY play a game on the PS3 (and with an OPEN MIND and no preset bias) and don't just lie.
@Dizzy - "Man.the.emo"
How mature. Did you just read that I said something that might be perceived to be a mite unsupportive of the 360 (even though I was really referring to the tendency of EG to advertise the 360 titles and hide the PS3 ones, and it's tendency to put an anti-PS3 spin on nearly all of it's news) and decide to come up with names for me?
@xXBrombeerXx - "The PS3 is bad, certainly in anti-aliasing and scaling. Except it."
I'm not disputing that. I do accept that the PS3 is weak in some of those areas, especially for multi-plats. I was just referring to EG's tendencies, if you properly read through what I said.
@spudsbuckley - "They're in the 360 section of the website for Christ's sake."
Is there any other kind of section on EG?
At everybody who argues for EG, if the roles were reversed, or if you were not so emotionally invested in your console, and all of it's associated tangibles (like games) and intangibles (like gamerpoints, achievements), you might recognize bias for what it is. Bias for something that you like is never perceived as such.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
@meax
lol, I don't know I didn't spot that. I imagine it was either intentional or they spotted it afterwards and left it as it's pretty funny!
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
FFS!
smelly in good point shocker!
Comment below viewing threshold Show
PS3 games on my monitor don't look washed-out like in the Eurogamer videos, though for Prince of Persia I did have to lower the brightness slightly using the in-game setting.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Mines out of its warranty period so it's pay to replace it or get it repaired which i'm not willing to do.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Still, believe what makes you feel happy, fanboys!
Comment below viewing threshold Show
None of those things are so badly designed that they have a 33% failure rate.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
"HAHA! We're emotionally invested in our console? We're not the ones crying again and again about the same thing. If you don't like EG, just fuck off will you! It'd save you a lot of 'heartache'.
I would recommend reading a bit about human psychology, in case you don't understand something about the ego. Believe me, if you were at the receiving end, you would be shouting your lungs out.
As for leaving EG, you forget, I play 360 games as well, and for news regarding 360 games, this is as good a site as any. As far as multi-console news goes though, it does leave something to be desired as far as impartiality is concerned.
None of the people who have bothered to respond to my post have done so with actual facts or proper arguments. Most have chosen invective and the "if you don't like it, leave it" argument. So much for proper debate.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
"I would like to think that the highly mature Eurogamer community will treat this article as an informative piece to help them with purchases and not devolve into another battle in the pointless console war
Dude, its a games site not a political or scientific journal. We are wasting our time reading about and playing video games. Neither you or I are mature.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Might have been bad but not anywhere near 33% bad. It didn't make headlines in the gaming press.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Interesting indeed...
Comment below viewing threshold Show
All my points are good..
Just because you dont agree with the points made (maybe because you belong to a group which believes (wrongly) a contradicting opinion) - it doesnt make my point less good. Just that you believe it (wrongly) to be an invalid point.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
I can afford a ps3.. and when LBP came out - i was actually tempted by one.. but I dont see the need to have one... When all the games i want are out on 360.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
>
Or.... the PS2 had very good support and did very well last generation, and the games press reported it as such.
How odd that the Xbox owners (on the whole) didn't feel the need to run around accusing everyone of TEH BIAS, eh?
As for screenshots and such usually being the 360 versions.... I didn't think EG took most of their pictures used in articles, I thought they were mostly provided by the publishers?
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
I'm intrigued, how do you think a multiformat site such as EG would gain from a bias towards one platform or another?
If it was biased, wouldn't advertisers pull their plugs and the site lose revenue?
EG is a business, if there was a bias it would have a commercial rationale; what could that be?
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
I sold my 360 the other day. It was too loud and unstable for my liking. I must be one of the few people who used their PS3 more than their 360. Mainly because of the Boeing 747 sound coming from it. But also because I didn't really enjoy any of the exclusives like that. Gears...meh. Fable.. Well I did enjoy that.. When I could actually play it for more than 5 minutes at a time without it crashing.
That and the fact that the PS3 has really good media capabilities, especially with a PS3 media server running, it was a no brainer for me...
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Most of those games aren't out yet.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Oh, and GT5P looks fucking awful. Sure, the car models are nice, but the environments look like shit. FFS, the tire walls are just big oblong models with poor quality flat images of tires stuck onto them. It's a complete joke.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
If you're looking for an example of good PS3 graphical grunt use MGS4.
Plus if no one can buy Killzone 2 then it's not out.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Fair enough, it explains a lot.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
And, yes I was talking about gears. Also, I'm haven't a clue about graphical stats because I just don't care. I know what looks better than what without knowing the numbers behind it.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Surely if he's happy with his purchase, and he's wasting his money on a pile of crap.. then let him (imho)
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Meanwhile in the real world, nobody can actually tell a sods difference between the two, especailly if they have a telly that is decently calibrated on all inputs and a PS3 set to the right colour range.
Piss off eurogamer.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
The 'problem', I think, is much overstated and hasn't stopped me (or I suspect many many others) from enjoying the above games or for that matter any in my PS3 collection. Frame-rate drops? Fair enough.
As for Mr Leadbetter's fixation on mandatory installs vs. the 360's optional installs? If installing a game on the HDD reduces both drive ware and noise then they cease to be optional for me and I'll gladly wait out ten minutes or so before getting to play a game.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Getting picky over the odd pixel here or there.. or whether (shock) something is aliased.. (oh no!)... Is a bit f-ing sad imho.
Getting upset over it is even worse!
Comment below viewing threshold Show
WHY 1080P GALLERIES DOESN'W WORK?
They display wrong pictures - the ones from 720p galleries, thumbtitles doeesn't match and picture after clicking show full resolution are in 1280x720 (check prosperities)
"
@SHARXTREME
cars in GTPp have over 100.000 triangles. resolution-1440x1080p 4xAA in game, 1920x1080 2xAA in showroom."
You are mistaken - GT5 Prologue is:
1280x1080 2xAA in race (or 1280x720 4xAA)
1920x1080 no AA in showroom
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Can we please have an "Ignore Author" button below "Richard Leadbetter" so my lunchtime reading isn't spoiled by this overblown pixel counting tripe.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
@3william56
Why do you need an ignore author button? If you don't like seeing comparison articles, simply don't click on them, surely that would be the intelligent thing to do, no?
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Hmm... thinking of getting PoP now.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
XBLA games aren't proper games, they're just pretty Flash games.
MS need to start putting up proper downloadable games (besides the Xbox classics) like those that are on the PSN.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Saying that yes the PS3 blur on near objects is a shame; perhaps some sort of z-level blur would be in order if not already present?
Oh and before anyone mentions it yes I agree screen-tear appears much more prevalent on the PS3 compared to the 360.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Shaun White Snowboarding gallery doesn't work AT ALL!
[link url=http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id= 9868&article_id=379000
]http://ww w.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?gam...[/link]
Comment below viewing threshold Show
"I'm intrigued, how do you think a multiformat site such as EG would gain from a bias towards one platform or another?
If it was biased, wouldn't advertisers pull their plugs and the site lose revenue?
EG is a business, if there was a bias it would have a commercial rationale; what could that be? "
You have a point. The answer to your question is, "I really don't know".
It just seems like EG seems to be selective in quoting and interpretations, offering snide comments, sarcasm and the like. I was just offering what I gathered from my browsing on here. I really am not sure how this would affect their revenue, positively or negatively.
However, and this goes way into conspiracy theory area and is probably completely wrong, Gamesites are not above accepting money from specific parties (e.g. Gamespot). And they don't have to do anything obvious, just non-obvious spin, comments at the expense of one party, slightly slanted reviews, and there you are. Anyway, this is probably wrong. The truth is probably something a lot simpler - journalists and reviewers are people as well, and they can get caught up in hype and hate-waves just like anybody else, and that probably does affect their judgment. I'm not sure whether you know this, but what people see and hear is always affected by their preconceptions, and the state of their minds.
In summary, I still feel that EG is being biased for some reason - I'm just not sure how this is helping their bottom-line. However, if you feel I'm incorrect, feel free to prove me wrong with facts/observations/conclusions of your own.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Any 360 fanboy here with the game? do you have similar problems?
Comment below viewing threshold Show
~ Peace
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Yes, nice to see it coming out on top for once visually but a low point of 15fps is possibly too big a price to pay, particularly for a game like TR ...
Comment below viewing threshold Show
out of 123 games, 59 have better framerate on 360 vs 6 on PS3
17 have noticeable technical inferiorities on 360 vs 70 on PS3 "
If that spreadsheet really exists then do please keep it updated as that is interesting data - hope you're keeping the dates against the entries so you can track trends!
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
I didn't know Saints Row 2 ran at a sub-720p... I thought there was something odd about the graphics compared with the first game though... they actually looked *worse*, not something you expect from a sequel!!! Anyway, SR2 was one of the most technically inept games of 2008 IMO. It was fun for a while but it lacked soul, was horrendously buggy and as such was massively inferior to the superb GTA IV.
I'm still a little disappointed with the PS3 some two years on. Given the machine's much higher price point and more recent release, you'd have expected the machine to have the edge over the older Xbox 360 just like the Xbox did over the PS2 last generation but that hasn't been the case despite Sony insisting that the 360 is inferior technically. So long as there are excellent games like LittleBigPlanet, Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, MLB 08 The Show and the terrific looking Killzone 2 on the PS3 then I don't think it really matters that much what the quality of the multiformat games are like as they are rarely system sellers anyway.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
I love the game and have recently bought it again on budget release for another play through before the sequel, but there's no denying the screen tears like a motherfucker throughout the entire game... more so thahn most PS3 games in fact.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show
It's probably down to bad optimisiation for VGA (see Capcom and their misiion to have all games tear on VGA), but still. Bad show.
Apart from that, identical.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Can't wait for Killzone 2 to come out, i'm going to have a hell of a time.
Comment below viewing threshold Show
Comment below viewing threshold Show