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Windows Vista First Impressions

PC First Impressions by Alec Meer

31 January, 2007

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Operating systems are absolutely ridiculous.

At least, the hype/rapture/rage that surrounds them tends to be. To most people, especially gamers like you, I and Robin Williams (no, really - he apparently plays Battlefield 2, plus I saw him at E3 once, trying to blag his way into the Rockstar booth), the OS is largely a thing to launch other things from. And really, that's all it should be - specific functions are best covered by specific programs. As long as the OS is stable, safe and supports what you want it to (i.e. games), its focus group-selected name should be pretty incidental.

Windows Vista, as you may or may not already know, is something of a different matter - for you, I and Robin Williams at least. Gaming's one of the elements that's being used to market it to a world that, en masse, doesn't quite know why it needs a new OS on its PC. The long, short and vaguely confusing of the matter is that DirectX, the software you may remember from such irritating dialogue boxes as 'this game requires you to install the latest version of DirectX, even though you've already installed it from the last 28 games you've bought', has a whole new version in Vista. It's that I'm going to specifically concentrate on for this piece - debates on Vista's other merits/offences are best left to other kinds of specialist websites. Y'know, ones that print endless tables full of numbers.

With that said, please bear with me while I do my hardest not to sink into incomprehensible tech talk over the next few paragraphs. Also for the record, I do not, to the best of my knowledge, possess any bias for or against Microsoft - I treat each product as its own entity rather than burdened or uplifted by its creators' prior escapades. Knowing the ever-furious populace of the internet, I'm sure some madman reading this will find a stray word that instantly convinces them I have some insidious agenda and must be killed with fire, but let the rational reader be assured of my objectivity.

So, five key facts about DirectX 10 (for that is its name):

'Windows Vista' Screenshot 1

All games are more fun when they're in parallelograms.

1) It's the first large-scale rewrite of the vital tech that makes Windows games talk to your hardware - and also defines precisely what 3D cards can do - in a long while.

2) It's less about making new graphical features possible (remember the hoo-hah about HDR lighting? Yeah - wasn't 'all that' really, was it?) than it is significantly streamlining existing ones, to the ultimate end that much more detailed scenes can be rendered without making your poor PC weep machine-tears.

3) It requires fully DirectX 10-compatible hardware to fully do its thing visually. Specifically, that means your current 3D card can't do DX10-only games (unless you have a GeForce 8800, which is highly unlikely). So, you'll have to upgrade - but only if you want maximum ocular sweetmeat, as most DX10 games will also support DX9 hardware, albeit at lower visual settings.

4) DX10 is not DX9 with bells on. As such, it has to load DX9 software to run DX9 games (that's basically everything from the last three or four years) - almost to the point of emulation. Emulation, as you may know from ferreting around in the Internet's hives of scum, villainy and console ROMs, doesn't always give perfect results.

5) DX10 is only available in Vista - that is to say, you can't get it in Windows XP, 2000, 98 et al. It has not, as yet, been proven to many folks' (including mine own) satisfaction that this is a technological necessity. On the other hand, there's no proof as yet that it's an unnecessary restriction intended to strongarm gamers into buying Vista either.

With DirectX 10, the PC will casually leapfrog the Xbox 360 (and very possibly the PS3 too, though these early-days and tepid launch titles mean we've yet to really see what Sony's fat baby is ultimately capable of) in terms of graphical potential. Graphical ability itself depends, much as before Vista, on the games and the hardware. A game whose art team have absolutely no flair is still going to look dull, no matter how many individually fluttering leaves are on its trees, while a technologically simple game like World of Warcraft or Katamari can manage to look a dozen times better than some bleeding-edge hardware-muncher, thanks to their aesthetic design.

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quantumsheep
31/01/07 @ 14:10
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It's a bit expensive isn't it?

I've seen laptops selling at around £450 with Vista pre-installed - which means I'm seriously considering buying one as it's not much more than just getting Vista on its own!
Eldritch
31/01/07 @ 14:11
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"spend £150+ on this new operating system"

Why? System Builder versions start at €95 (GBP 65). And they're legal (at least in Germany).
UncleLou
31/01/07 @ 14:14
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Interesting article, cheers.

The latter - DX10 cards - are currently in short supply, as only NVIDIA has released something suitable, in the form of the £260 and upwards 8800 range

Prices seem to drop constantly. I've seen 8800GTS cards (with very, very impressive benchmarks) in the 220 quid range already.
space ace
31/01/07 @ 14:14
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sounds like less than 8/10?
pauleyc
31/01/07 @ 14:15
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System Builder (OEM) versions have their restrictions, including not being allowed to change the motherboard IIRC.

In other words: no need to upgrade right away.

edit: UncleLou, there's the upcoming 8600 series, too!
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captbirdseye
31/01/07 @ 14:16
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"spend £150+ on this new operating system"

Forgive if im wrong but there are many Vista packages for much less than that including the Vista Home Premium 32-Bit Edition DVD - OEM which retails at £72?
BillGaitas
31/01/07 @ 14:16
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better than halo??? ;)
Eldritch
31/01/07 @ 14:16
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"System Builder (OEM) versions have their restrictions, including not being allowed to change the motherboard IIRC."

Hmmmh, I've changed my motherboard twice, and all I had to do is call Uncle Bill and tell him about it to unlock my Windows XP. Did they change that in Vista?
captbirdseye
31/01/07 @ 14:17
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Interesting article, cheers.

The latter - DX10 cards - are currently in short supply, as only NVIDIA has released something suitable, in the form of the £260 and upwards 8800 range

Prices seem to drop constantly. I've seen 8800GTS cards (with very, very impressive benchmarks) in the 220 quid range already

Jeez, thats cheap where too?
pauleyc
31/01/07 @ 14:20
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Eldritch, apparently they did change it.

edit: Here's another interesting article about Vista and gaming performance.
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sharpfish
31/01/07 @ 14:24
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"and very possibly the PS3 too"

Very probably the ps3 too, of course DX10 with cutting edge cards and especially next years cards will surpass the PS3 technically in GPU terms (hey, the xbox360 already surpasses the ps3 in GPU terms).

Of course consoles have a certain magic dust (fixed spec hardware, high paid devs) which means console games will continue to look excellent compared to PC games for a while yet.

Crysis may be the start of the new-pc revolution, but we will need more games to compete with the consoles to make use of these superior gpus.

Vista is fine, a few bugs, a pain about directsound, a bit too much hand holding but a nice looking thing none the less. Easier to keep tidy, and far more intuative to get around.

Don't expect XP to die for another 4 years at least though.
UncleLou
31/01/07 @ 14:24
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captbirdseye:

Various (German) online retailers - mindfactory.de, for example.
FWB
31/01/07 @ 14:27
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I hate DirectX. I hate drivers. I hate installations. I hate lack of memory/HD space/graphic cards capability etc.

"As long as the OS is stable, safe and supports what you want it to (i.e. games), its focus group-selected name should be pretty incidental."

Amen. Fuck em all.

HL2 and Mafia were wank btw.

EDIT... Ohh and before anyone suggests it... I hate consoles more than all of the above combined and cooked nicely in a vegetable sauce.
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Eldritch
31/01/07 @ 14:27
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"Eldritch, apparently they did change it. "

Not in Germany.

The German High Court told Uncle Bill to fuck off, so it's perfectly legal to sell SB or OEM versions, the only difference being that they don't come with a manual and your don't have access to MS's support.
Rambaldi
31/01/07 @ 14:32
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This is WHY I sold my PC and bought an Xbox:

Open - Insert - Slouch - Play - Enjoy
Darren
31/01/07 @ 14:34
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What a terrfic article. It's made my mind up not to bother buying Vista at the moment or at least if I do somewhere down the line, it'll be installed alongside XP. I had no idea that DirectX 9 games had to be emulated, I thought like the previous versions of DirectX that the earlier versions are supported along with the new one and games use whichever is appropriate. Thanks for clarifying that EG... as a PC gamer, I see absolutely no point in spending £150 just for a prettier user interface.
Daikon
31/01/07 @ 14:35
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So let me get this straight.
I can pay hundreds of pounds on the OS and system upgrades, and in return I will get suffer a performance drop when using DirectX 9 and go from surround sound to stereo, not to mention have my system compromised by the numerous not-yet-discovered-but-soon-to-be-exploited security holes?
Thanks, but no thanks...
pauleyc
31/01/07 @ 14:36
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Not in Germany.

Interesting, I didn't know that. Although it mentions only the requirement of the OS being sold together with the hardware, I didn't see anything regarding the reactivation of the OEM version (ie. no confirmation on the freedom of the process). Still no good if you want a version in a language other than German. :-)
matrim83
31/01/07 @ 14:40
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Most interesting would be the mid range DX 10 graphic cards coming in from ATI and Nvidia. I read about Nvidia unveiling the 6600 and 7600 version of the DX 10 series i.e. the 8600 this march. From the sound of things it should be priced at around 200 $ which TBH doesn't sound so expensive if you are looking to upgrade to a DX 10 card. Still I don't really see Vista and DX 10 gaming taking off untill next year at the very least. Sure there might be DX 10 games coming out soon but for every one of them there will be a dozen based on DX 9.
Eldritch
31/01/07 @ 14:41
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Just an example.

I had their current flyer in the mail today. On the last page they state explicitly:

"einzeln erhältlich" (sold individually)

I bought my XP SBE in one of their stores without buying any hardware. No problem.
Drpwnage
31/01/07 @ 14:45
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Forcing PC Gamers with perfectly adequate gaming PC's to spend several hundred quid upgrading to a new OS just so they can play the latest games is just crap. I actually hope Crysis does poorly in retail (which I expect it to, when you say look at the 'average' PC gamers PC spec from Steams user information).

From the various reviews I have read recently, I'm also not clear on whether the OEM version will let you upgrade PC components or not.
spidermanalf
31/01/07 @ 14:48
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Someone has good taste, a few Johnny Cash albums on there! Some Eels and REM too!

Oh yeah Vista, will wait and see what my mates is like, he gets a free upgrade, that cost him 16 quid when he bought his PC delivered in next day or two !

Zomoniac
31/01/07 @ 14:49
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No idea where a £220 one is, but if you work for someone you can buy components and reclaim the VAT from, there's one for £253 here.
captbirdseye
31/01/07 @ 14:49
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From the various reviews I have read recently, I'm also not clear on whether the OEM version will let you upgrade PC components or not.

Its linked to just your motherboard and not components.
Eldritch
31/01/07 @ 14:49
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"he gets a free upgrade, that cost him 16 quid when he bought his PC delivered in next day or two ! "

Yeah, smart move! (C:
TakeTheVeil
31/01/07 @ 14:52
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could ya not just have a dual boot with XP and Vista to sort out those DX9 problems? or is it the DX10 GPUs?
Xerx3s
31/01/07 @ 14:52
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I got it for free! \0/

Thank you MSDN AA! ;p

Not that I'm using it as WinXPpro64 is everything I need and runs very well.
skillian
31/01/07 @ 14:55
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When I tried Vista before, I was perfectly happy with its performance in games like HL2 and COD2, but I agree there's no real incentive to upgrade for purely gaming reasons.

For all the talk of Crysis in the article and the comments, no-one's mentioned the real reason I would upgrade to Vista - Alan Wake. Unlike Crysis, it's exclusive to the Vista platform, and I'd definitely feel I was missing out if I've not ditched XP by the time it's released.
brooza
31/01/07 @ 14:56
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you'd need to spend at least £410 before you could make your PC DX10-enabled. That's two Wiis, or a complete Xbox 360 with a year's Live sub, an extra controller and a few games, or even a PS3.

Well, nearly a PS3
in5ane
31/01/07 @ 14:58
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The point everyone seems to miss is that you can install Vista on your current XP machine and keep XP! Vista install even makes this easy.

If something needs XP or works better in that OS, boot into XP, otherwise boot into Vista with all its fading translucent goodness.

Aria have the 'ultimate' vista OEM for
Dizzy
31/01/07 @ 15:00
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"Do people still believe this kind of baloney about the PS3 GPU in 2007? "

Apparently..; but that is also the reason they are on my ignore list ;)

I got Vista with my new PC... everything runs pretty smooth and looks great. Dunno if you *need* to upgrade but if you get a new (uber) PC it would be stupid not to buy Vista.
brooza
31/01/07 @ 15:01
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Aria have the 'ultimate' vista OEM for

65 squiddles

EDIT: no they don't, that's Home Premium
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TheDifficult3rdAlbum
31/01/07 @ 15:02
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>if I get the chance to run some new benchmarks I'll ask EG's copy-gimps to update this piece

Fixed
kangarootoo
31/01/07 @ 15:09
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Wow, I'm amazed that someone hasn't piped up yet complaining about the lack of a score on that article. I thought that the sun couldn't set round here without a score out of ten.
asphaltcowboy
31/01/07 @ 15:09
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well, I'll be waiting for the first service pack I reckon... iron out whatever problems are usually associated with new OSs... and to bring you up on a small point... HDR was "all that", bog-standard bloom however, was not!
asphaltcowboy
31/01/07 @ 15:11
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in5ane:

Does Vista come with an option for dual-boot installation built in?
penhalion
31/01/07 @ 15:25
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Build your own system and buy the OEM version. I have and can say that it's actually a good operating system.
Bru-Man
31/01/07 @ 15:26
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"maximum ocular sweetmeat"

Contender for phrase of the year surely?
captain_cupcake
31/01/07 @ 15:29
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Does Vista come with an option for dual-boot installation built in?

Yes you can easily dual-boot in Vista
Arganoid
31/01/07 @ 15:32
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"Forcing PC Gamers with perfectly adequate gaming PC's to spend several hundred quid upgrading to a new OS just so they can play the latest games is just crap. I actually hope Crysis does poorly in retail"

Crysis is not exclusive to Vista or DX10.
mazzl
31/01/07 @ 15:47
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so microsoft brings us another reason to buy a 360 ;)
not interested at all in vista, winxp does it all, when dx10 games become the bulk, let's say christmas 2008, maybe then i'll upgrade my pc.
Drpwnage
31/01/07 @ 15:48
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@Arganiod

I didn't realise that :>. I have been too busy looking at the pretty screenshots to read any of the accompanying preview text. If you can dual boot with XP easily enough then that solves a lot of the problems.

If the OEM version is locked to your motherboard, do you get opportunity to reactivate it? if like me you upgrade your PC guts every 18 months. Or do you have to purchase the retail version for that?
HoriZon
31/01/07 @ 16:08
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For all those who have a "free upgrade" to Vista this is how to install it a fresh!
So it doesn't invalidate your XP install!

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This workaround allows users to perform a “clean install.” The process is a bit tedious, but is not hard at all to complete. Users have to perform these simple steps to perform a clean install of Vista without a previous version of Windows installed with an upgrade DVD:

1. Boot from the Windows Vista Upgrade DVD and start the setup program.
2. When prompted to enter your product key, DO NOT enter it. Click "Next" and proceed with setup. This will install Windows Vista as a 30-day trial.
3. When prompted, select the edition of Vista which you have purchased and continue with setup.
4. Once setup has been completed and you have been brought to the desktop for the first time, run the install program from within Windows Vista.
5. This time, type in your product key when prompted.
6. When asked whether to perform an Upgrade or Custom (advanced) install, choose Custom (advanced) to perform a clean install of Vista. Yes, this means that you will have to install Vista for a second time.
7. Once setup has completed for the second time, you should be able to activate Windows Vista normally. You can also delete the Windows.old directory which contains information from the first Vista install.
prettyboytim
31/01/07 @ 16:09
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I still can't quite get over the rampant cynicism of the 'No DX10 on XP' move.
spaceman
31/01/07 @ 16:11
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ah the eels, what a brilliant album
Tiiti
31/01/07 @ 16:15
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I am liking my Vista very much.

/considers starting a 'post us your Vista performance rating' thread. Mine is 5,5.5,5.9,5.9,5.9 :)
miiiguel
31/01/07 @ 16:20
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It's incredible how EG must show its devoteeness to the Playstation brand. While there are plenty of articles/charts that shows 360 GPU is stronger, they don't waste the oppurtunity to try to make us believe otherwise.
And now, they even have games that can be put side by side. Try CoD3, EG, compare them, try THP8!!!
bcolter
31/01/07 @ 16:21
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I'm picking up my upgrade tonight for two reasons....
1)I'm a software instructor... So I need to know it inside and out
2)I'm a media centre user with my PC as my Home entertainment hub... with almost 600 CD's in my library... XP Media Centre is painfull. So the improvements there are worth while.

That said, I recommend to most others to WAIT! The benefit of DX10 and Vista will arrive, but as usual it takes some time to get the ball rolling. In the mean time, stay off the "Bleeding Edge" if you can... Its a painful place to live. Give the OS a minimum of 6 months if you can, service packs and less expensive harware will be arriving after that first painful period.

I'll let you all know how the upgrade goes.... (Yikes!)
Cheers
miiiguel
31/01/07 @ 16:23
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skillian: Alan wake is not Vista exclusive, it's coming out to 360 as well.
kelly's_h
31/01/07 @ 16:23
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Good article. Not even dreaming of vista on my 1.8, 512 ram, 128mb 9600xt pc.

Loving my 360 very much at the moment.

"Open - Insert - Slouch - Play - Enjoy"

That's the gaming life...

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