Tomb Raider: Underworld Preview

Deep.

"Ah, the lovely Lara. With your penchant for raiding tombs, your amazing acrobatic skills and your honking great tits, you've been entertaining us for years now. You're like a female Indiana Jones! With big tits." © Almost every article written about Tomb Raider in the last 10 years. Including this one.

But for many of those years there wasn't much more to say. This one's got a speedboat. Oh look, a motorbike. This one's too hard. Oh look, her tits are bigger. By the time Chronicles came along no one could be bothered to say anything at all.

Then came Angel of Darkness, about which there was much to say. Things like "Why did they do that?" mainly. The game was so late and so poor Core lost the Lara licence to Crystal Dynamics, who set to work on TR: Legend.

They made the decision early on in the design process to take Tomb Raider back to its roots - beautiful, atmospheric environments, greater isolation during exploration, a control system that worked. As a result the game was a solid, if not stunning return to form. The Anniversary remake of the original Tomb Raider was more impressive; "The best Lara Croft adventure to date," as Kristan put it.

'Tomb Raider: Underworld' Screenshot 1

Aha, she's giving us a twirl.

Now the series is at a critical juncture. Legend was good, Anniversary great, but Tomb Raider: Underworld is the game that needs to push the series forward. It's time for Crystal Dynamics to really show what it can do.

Show and tell

This process begins at a screening room in central London. Eidos has invited us here to see Underworld in action for the first time. Disappointingly, no one from Crystal Dynamics is present. "Obviously, they're making the game," says publishing designer Bill Beacham. "But we're here to act as consultants and keep an eye on what they're up to."

The demo is being presented by Underworld's senior producer at Eidos, Sarah Van Rompaey. The fourth level of the game, she explains, is set in Mexico. We're going to see the final section of it being played on Xbox 360.

There stands Lara, larger than life. She's swapped her plait for a ponytail but her clothes are still very small. She's standing in the jungle surrounding a great stone temple. It's raining and her clothes are soaked through. The level of detail on the building, the gloomy lighting and the raindrop animations are all very impressive.

So impressive, in fact, that one gaming publication recently described Underworld's visuals as looking "altogether photo-real". Does Eidos think that's an accurate assessment? "Underworld has a level of fidelity and realism not seen in a Tomb Raider game to date," Van Rompaey says. "However, there is a certain level of stylisation which is synonymous with Tomb Raider. Realism isn't our goal."

'Tomb Raider: Underworld' Screenshot 2

Stop messing around and shoot the animals, woman.

The improved graphics are generated by a brand new engine. New materials and an improved shader system mean multiple textures can be blended together. A new piece of lighting technology called Spherical Harmonics is being used to make Lara appear connected with her environment; if she walks through green foliage, for example, her skin will take on a subtle green cast.

Vertex shading makes objects move realistically - think trees swaying in the breeze and bushes rustling as animals move through them. There are contextual animations, so if Lara walks through long grass she will automatically use her hands to clear her path. If one hand is holding a gun at the time she'll only use her free one to do this.

In addition there are dynamic environmental effects and each level has its own weather system. In the level we're being shown today, that means storm clouds moving across the sky, trees shaking in the wind and the occasional lightning flash.

On the move

But the best thing about what we're seeing on screen is the fact it looks like a Tomb Raider game should. Ancient temples, lush jungles, Lara alone and with a great expanse of environment to explore. And she hasn't even started moving yet.

But as two panthers burst out of the undergrowth Lara leaps into action and the first of her new combat moves is revealed. She can dual-target, shooting one panther with the pistol in her left hand while simultaneously taking out the other with her right. She can also perform new moves while shooting, such as a swan dive.

Objects in the environment can be used in combat now. To demonstrate this, Lara finds a large pole and whacks the panthers with it to finish them off. In previous Tomb Raider games you'd expect their bodies to disappear, but they don't. Underworld's environments are persistent so if you kill something or move an object it will remain as you left it for the entirety of the level. You could say it's about time, but still.

Time to show off Lara's new acrobatic moves. "Each one creates new exploration and combat scenarios," says Van Rompaey. "Every move has been expertly animated using motion-capture of an Olympic-trained gymnast, and the results are some of the best ever seen in a videogame."

'Tomb Raider: Underworld' Screenshot 3

Good to see they managed to get semaphore back in.

Lara can not only balance on beams but vault and backflip along them. She can rappel down vertical surfaces, perform wall kicks and melee kicks. She can shoot while clinging from ledges and hanging onto ropes. She's got a new sprint move, which allows her to run so fast it's almost funny. All of these moves are performed with spectacular grace and fluidity, making you wonder why that gymnast was only Olympic-trained and not a medal winner.

No fear

The most exciting-sounding new feature is the ability to "free-climb". Without being able to try this out first-hand, however, it's hard to gauge how it works. You can see Lara's no longer constricted to pulling herself along ledges; she uses her arms and feet to traverse a section of wall like a rock climber would.

But it looks like she's constrained to using the lumps on the wall which stick out and look brighter than the rest of it. This doesn't seem like free-climbing, more like following a set path but with a new animation. We're also told Lara can now move around concave and convex surfaces, but this isn't being shown in the demo.

Lara can now use objects in the environment to create new paths. "This is very exciting for us. It's not used in any other game," says Van Rompaey. "It really does change the way you think and play Tomb Raider." Lara grabs the pole again and slots it into a hole in the wall, turning it into a pole she can swing and jump from. We're told Lara can also destroy or manipulate objects in new ways to establish routes, for example burning trees to clear a pathway.

'Tomb Raider: Underworld' Screenshot 4

The new climbing stuff looks a bit Assassin's Creed. No bad thing.

The grapple hook is back, but Eidos has listened to criticisms the catch points in Legend were "too bling". Now they blend quietly into the environment and it's up to you to spot them. The grapple won't detach if a solid object comes between Lara and the catch point. This means she can exert force on the grapple line and use it to, as is being shown here, pull a large stone block off a pillar. The blocks in Underworld are physics items, so they won't fall into the same position each time.

The falling block smashes open a pair of stone doors and Lara retrieves the relic she's after. It's only one in a series of objects she's had to obtain in this environment. "The levels are of a scale we haven't seen before," explains Beacham, adding that you have the freedom to decide what order you solve puzzles in.

According to Van Rompaey, "Underworld features large-scale mechanisms and challenges which span entire environments rather than just being restricted to a particular locale in order to open the next door. Each environment is a formidable adversary that the player will have to overcome."

Title sequence

This particular bit of the environment overcome, Lara heads outside the temple and across a Mayan ballcourt. She stops at a turnstile above a pair of giant gates set into the floor. The relics she's collected will allow her to open the gates - which, it turns out, are the gates to the Mayan underworld. This is what the game's subtitle refers to; not thankfully, any nonsense about Lara "going dark" and dealing with mobsters or drug dealers.

"Underworld has nothing in common with Angel of Darkness," says Van Rompaey. "If Tomb Raider: Underworld comes across as darker it's not deliberate. It's more to do with the fact that she is travelling to underworlds, places of the undead. Therefore it has a more mature tone and naturally will feel darker."

Eidos's Kathryn Clements says she doesn't want to give too much of the story away, but "it's safe to say Lara will be going to multiple underworlds throughout the game". Not just real-world locations, then? "No. The guys at Crystal have let their imaginations go. They're taking Lara to places she's never been before, places people will find surprising."

'Tomb Raider: Underworld' Screenshot 5

Very thoughtful of those Mayans to put in so many hand holds.

According to Bill Beacham, "Underworld is more mythology- than archaeology-based. I think it's important to have a grounding in reality; you can see that with the Mayan temple. But you have to go beyond that."

On her bike

This is where things get really interesting - with the potential for exploring fantastical environments and fighting off mythological creatures. Unfortunately, this is where today's demo ends. There's only time to show us Lara's new motorbike, said to be much improved and more useful.

It's got gears and can do everything a real motorbike can, including donuts and wheelies. It's also "much more integral to the levels", says Beacham. "It's one of the tools Lara has in her arsenal of gear now. If you want to get from A to B quickly, that's what the bike's for. It also has other functionality we'll be revealing later."

And that's it, almost. We sent Eidos a Q&A after the event, and you've just read many of their answers. However, they declined to answer quite a few of our questions. So we can't tell you whether Underworld will be longer than Legend, whether there will be episodic releases, why there's no PSP version or whether they're considering a Tomb Raider II remake.

'Tomb Raider: Underworld' Screenshot 6

Thought you might like a bit of concept art to round off. Poor thing doesn't even have a brolley.

Nor can we tell you why, oh why they made the T-Rex bit into a quick time event in Anniversary. (QTEs will be back in Underworld but "not as we knew them", according to Beacham. "It's going to be a new system. More flexible, more natural, a bit more freedom, more rewarding to the player.")

We can tell you this: what's been shown of Underworld so far is impressive and intriguing. It looks beautiful, it looks fresh, but it still looks like a Tomb Raider game. Crystal Dynamics appears to be focusing on why fans love the series as much as how to push it forwards, and that can only be a good thing.

There's still much more to be revealed, and it will be intriguing to see the new mythological environments Lara will get to explore. But so far, Tomb Raider: Underworld is looking spectacular. Much like Lara's tits.

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  • Mugwum Verified Operations Director, Eurogamer Network #1 4 years ago

    Apologies for the lack of screenshots at the moment. This is not a tech issue but something else. However, there will be screenshots available later today!
  • caligari #2 4 years ago

    Better than Uncharted?
  • Daikon #3 4 years ago

    I remember staring in awe at the graphics when the first Tomb Raider came out for Playstation.
    I'd love to have an experience like that again...
  • penhalion #4 4 years ago

    Why is dual targetting a new move? I though it was in anniversary too.
  • MrWonderstuff #5 4 years ago

    Just got Anniversary for the 360 which I'm finding very engaging (nice to have an antidote to COD4 multplayer). Shame some of the corridors in it are so well lit from no apparent source (she doesnt have a torch so maybe thats why). Look forward to this next installment as it seems to be even more immersive.
  • mingster #6 4 years ago

  • alimokrane #7 4 years ago

    Excellent preview Ellie. The game is shaping up briliantly I see and all previews I have read seem to agree with this. Cant wait!
  • Stonker #8 4 years ago

    I gave up on Tomb Raider after Angel of dakness. That game was cock awful. I should really pay the series a visit again.
  • agparrot #9 4 years ago

    I thought the opening quote for the article was from an evil villain in the game.

    Maybe they'll use it.
  • motslaps #10 4 years ago

    Ellie's going on about Lara's tits an awful lot... I thought that was written by one of the blokes
  • TheSnotGoblin #11 4 years ago

    Sounds like there might be some hope for the new Deus Ex game if this engine is as good as the preview makes it seem. Let's hope the writers are up to scratch.
  • Machetazo #12 4 years ago

    "But it looks like she's constrained to using the lumps on the wall which stick out and look brighter than the rest of it."

    If Eidos have listened to feedback about the grapple points being dazzlingly obvious in Legend, I'd like to think they would include a toggle for how obvious these hand-holds are.
    If scaling a vertical face (as you do) you wouldn't just have the correct hand/foot hold miraculously spring to your attention. I don't expect (or desire) a full-on rock climbing simulation, but perhaps just some time delay, before an optional solution is shown, for me to figure out where I'd like to proceed next.

    The idea of these multiple underworlds is definitely intriguing...CD's imagination going wild - where do i sign up, lol? :)
  • mechamonkey #13 4 years ago

    Legend and Anniversary are brilliant, really looking forwards to this.
  • Flange #14 4 years ago

    As much as I'm looking forward to this game, I've got to question the claim that spherical harmonics is a new technology. It's been around in games for years and is a pretty standard lighting technique these days. It wasn't even that uncommon on the PS2.
  • neilka #15 4 years ago

    "Vertex shading makes objects move realistically"

    Hmm.
  • mingster #16 4 years ago

    It uses spehirical harmonics specially to light her tits
  • tripitaka #17 4 years ago

    "They're taking Lara to places she's never been before, places people will find surprising."

    Milton Keynes?
  • Midnight_Raven #18 4 years ago

    Is there anything surprising about Milton Keynes?

    ;)
  • morriss #19 4 years ago

    Breaking the text and screenshots embargo?

    Naughty, naughty.
  • MBar #20 4 years ago

    Please don't screw it up. Please don't screw it up. Please don't screw it up. Please don't screw it up. Please don't screw it up. Please don't screw it up. Please don't screw it up. Please don't screw it up. Please don't screw it up. Please don't screw it up. Please don't screw it up. Please don't screw it up. Please don't screw it up.
  • JohnnyWashnGo #21 4 years ago

    I loved Legend, a real return to form and probably the game that made me dust off my old PS2 for.

    Anniversary was a bit dull and samey, so much so that I never finished it and probably never will.

    So Underworld better be good, or else ;)
  • DrDamn #22 4 years ago

    @Flange
    I can think of games on PS2 where you pass a green light and get a green tinge, but this is indirect lighting. What examples are you thinking of?
  • Kenshin001 #23 4 years ago

    Frome the description of this game it sounded remarkably like.....Uncharted!
  • paulf #24 4 years ago

    sounds really good, looking forward to it
  • Lionheart #25 4 years ago

    Excellent preview, i really enjoyed that!

    Cant wait for this game. Loved the relics in Anniversary, it for some reason seemed alot more rewarding to retrieve a relic compared to secrets on the previous games (maybe it's just me) so it's nice to see them still in...

    Sounds like it looks stunning =] cant wait!

    Croft Manor?
  • Freek #26 4 years ago

    From a preview I read in a magazine, that included a short interview, Crystal Dynamics was quick to point out it's not like Uncharted. There's a much lesser focus on combat and more on complex puzzels and exploration.
  • Lionheart #27 4 years ago

    @JohnnyWashnGo

    Did you ever play the original Tomb Raider, i believe you'd appreciate it more if you did =]
  • Sneerk #28 4 years ago

    I still prefere Anniversary over Uncharted since Uncharted is more or less puzzle free. If crystal dynamics makes gameplay similar to uncharted but with loads of good puzzles, it may just be the ultimate game. Because: Lara > Nate. And yeah, any news on croft manor?!
  • Flange #29 4 years ago

    @DrDamn

    It wasn't used in quite the same way back then, it was to speed up the calculations of direct lighting. Here's some links from as early as 2003 about it. Warning: may contain maths!

    [link url=http://www.research.scea.com/gdc2003/spheri cal-harmonic-lighting.html
    ]http://ww w.research.scea.com/gdc2003/sph...[/link]
    [link url=http://www.henjeon.com/pds/dev/doc/Sp herical%20Harmonics%20GDCE%20PPT97.ppt
    ]http://ww w.henjeon.com/pds/dev/doc/Spher...[/link]

    The way it's being used in Tomb Raider isn't new though, you can see it in a crap-ton of PS3 and 360 titles. The Unreal engine has had it for years, for a start.
  • GordonCaladan #30 4 years ago

    So how have her tits been improved?
    Edited by 1 at 01/02/08 @ 12:34
  • nickthegun #31 4 years ago

    It took me like three hours to finish the shading on the tits. It's probably the best drawing I've ever done
  • JonFE #32 4 years ago

    I'd like to say that it's looking good, but apparently cannot since the screenshots are not up yet (? embargoed ?), so I'll just say that it sounds just as good :)
  • GordonCaladan #33 4 years ago

  • NthSimulachum #34 4 years ago

    Loved Anniversary...hope this is up to the high standard already set.
  • TuftyMcTavish #35 4 years ago

    I like t!ts. I also like Tomb Raider. Perfect. I am very interested in this game, all joking aside. Loved Legend, need to find the time to get back to Anniversary. More platformers please!
  • lambtron #36 4 years ago

    "So how have her tits been improved?"

    Spherical Harmonics.

    Fnar Fnar.
  • pjmaybe #37 4 years ago

    "honking great tits" = new phrase of the day
  • MrDurandPierre #38 4 years ago

    I was late to the Tomb Raider craze with my first introduction to the series being Tomb Raider Anniversary, which ended up being one of my top 5 favorite games of last year, so I have really high hopes for this. That being said, I am a tad bit worried. Crystal Dynamics made a great remake, but their only original game (Legend) left something to be desired (I thought Kristan's review was spot on). And I have mixed reactions to the fantastical locales of this. The "Lara goes to Hell" concept is intriguing, but I'm worried it may deviate too much from the ancient earthly charm of the earlier games. But then again, Crystal Dynamics proved they could do a nightmarish underworld setting in Soul Reaver, so I'm confident they can do it again. I'm trying not to get my hopes up and I'm sure Underworld will be good, but I'm hoping for something truly great.
  • Hugundo #39 4 years ago

    I hope they got rid of the headset from Legend.
  • pagrab #40 4 years ago

    Nice preview - I like the self referential link - pretty funny.
  • kangarootoo #41 4 years ago

  • HarryPalmer #42 4 years ago

    "Genuine screen?

    http://fi les.xboxic.com/xbox-360/tomb-ra...

    if so then it sure as shit ain't photo realistic.
  • drumbaby #43 4 years ago

    Crystal Dynamics, taking suspense out of modern games.
  • Lim-Dul #44 4 years ago

    @pjmaybe - I think that the phrase "honking great tits" is a homage to Yahtzee and his ultra-funny Zero Punctuation video reviews. He's from Great Britain too, although he's living in Australia right now. =)

    http://ww w.escapistmagazine.com/articles...
  • lindblum_resident #45 4 years ago

    @kangarootoo

    That's a picture from the 360 version of Legend.
  • kangarootoo #46 4 years ago

    "That's a picture from the 360 version of Legend"

    The internet lied to me!

    ...well, feasibly I could have simply not checked what google images led me to. Oops.
  • Apologie #47 4 years ago

    After Uncharted, saying that Tomb Raider have to improve a lot is a big understatement... till now Uncharted is the most impressive (both artistically and technically) game in the genre... nontheless i'm looking forward to it.
    Edited by 2 at 01/02/08 @ 16:20
  • lemonfist #48 4 years ago

  • ZuluHero #49 4 years ago

    when are the screenshots being put up?
  • Super_Zee #50 4 years ago

    Mmm, sounds great. Loved Legend more than Anniversary, though.
  • dominalien #51 4 years ago

    Uncharted looked a lot like Tomb Raider to me.

    So why is it that I'm looking at these screens and I'm "oh, it looks so much like Uncharted"?

    Good game, btw (Uncharted).

    Edit: spelling
    Edited by 1 at 01/02/08 @ 17:47
  • Feanor #52 4 years ago

    Americans pronouncing Lara like there's a "u" in it ftl.
  • Madder-Max #53 4 years ago

    Sounds like a game for anoracks.
  • DjFlex52 #54 4 years ago

    "After Uncharted, saying that Tomb Raider have to improve a lot is a big understatement... till now Uncharted is the most impressive (both artistically and technically) game in the genre... nontheless i'm looking forward to it."

    "While XBOX 360 owners have no equivalent to Uncharted, and will probably lap this up, PS3 owners will have trouble loving this, unless they truly innovate. "

    @Apologie & headbog, respectively

    Does everything that spews out of your keyboard have to have some PS3 elitist slant to it, Apologie & headbog?
    Uncharted has barely sold 1 million so even PS3 gamers will take a good look at Tomb Raider because of its license.

    Did you think the same when there isn't a equivalent of Gears of War & Bioshock on PS3? Uncharted < Gears of War

    And Apologie? Don't Haze and Killzone 2 have to improve drastically in online gameplay to compete with COD4, TF2 and Halo 3?
    They are the best in online shooters right now and I dont hear you muttering those facts in that biased head of yours.
    I'm sick of you two.
  • stepneg #55 4 years ago

    Sounds great as long as it's not ruined with too many shooting sections
    Edited by 1 at 01/02/08 @ 19:41
  • DjFlex52 #56 4 years ago

    "While XBOX 360 owners have no equivalent to Uncharted, and will probably lap this up, PS3 owners will have trouble loving this, unless they truly innovate. "

    Firstly: You're the one starting fanboy bashing - I merely mentiond that Uncharted looked better and raised the bar. I didnt mention system bashing.

    @headbog

    Oh, you started it alright...read your first comment. You didnt just "merely" mention that Uncharted looked better than Tomb Raider. No, you had to bring up xbox 360 owners and their lap-abliltiy???...PLEASE, leave us out of your biased mutterings.
    It sounds like system bashing to me...why do you care about an equivalent for 360 owners? Do you speak for xbox gamers needs now?
  • VMerken #57 4 years ago

    "But it looks like she's constrained to using the lumps on the wall which stick out and look brighter than the rest of it."

    Grrrrrr. No, wait. GRRRRRRR.

    What Machetazo said. Please provide a "Want Brightly Coloured 'Here's Where You Need To Go' Background Elements?" On/Off switch in the Options menu. If the environment is your worst enemy in this installment, then at least give us veterans the option to make it our worst enemy and have some true, free-form exploration - you know, the kind of thing that made the originals so great - instead of the "Here's the bleeding obvious path from A to B, you're welcome" kind of linear hand-holding, challenge-free Tomb Raider environment we've been seeing since Legend and Anniversary.
    Edited by 3 at 04/02/08 @ 03:01
  • captain-future #58 4 years ago

    Lara's "tits" are not spectacular... they're obscene - but the game looks promising.

    Judging by some hilarious questions about Uncharted... maybe the should call it: Tomb Raider: Uncharted instead? *LOL*
    Edited by 1 at 01/02/08 @ 21:12
  • Nicky128 #59 4 years ago

    Here's a picture for you all to right click and save to the wank bank.

    [link url=http://i25.tinypic. com/r6xvs3.jpg
    ]http://i25.tinypic. com/r6xvs3.jpg
    [/link]

    Just lovely.
  • Razz #60 4 years ago

    Nice tits in the thumb image
  • vegard #61 4 years ago

    "Mentioning that the 360 doesn't have a Uncharted/tombraidery type game yet? How is that system bashing? "

    i thought there was a TR game on the 360 already...
  • Tim #62 4 years ago

    Er...

    [link url=http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articl es//a/9/1/8/4/6/01.bmp.jpg.jpg
    ]http://im ages.eurogamer.net/assets/artic...[/link]

    Now, is it me, or does that look a tad photoshopped to you?

    Make sure you're looking at it actual size in the browser. Methinks the background doesn't quite match up to the characters.

    Looks like somebody forgot to resize their bullshot :-)
  • kangarootoo #63 4 years ago

    @headbog

    Do you actually believe you aren't a fanboy? Truly in your heart, is that what you think?

    I try not to get involved in these things, and I have zero people on my ignore list because I think everyone has something valid to say. But seriously, its just been tedious recently and you are so close to being the first. I could almost believe you are a LUA script sometimes.

    You force a pro-PS3 comment into every possible scenario often with painful clumsiness, you never have anything unique to say anymore (and I'm sure it didn't used to be like that), you attack anyone who points out how tedious and repetative you are being.

    You are like a scientologist dude. And I swear it wasn't always this way. I'm sure that you used to have other stuff to talk about that didn't entirely hinge around trying to put down the 360.

    The day you bought a PS3 was the day you died a little bit inside. Come back to us, its not too late :)
  • kangarootoo #64 4 years ago

    @Tim

    Well spotted dude. The character and background are clearly different resolutions.

    Oops :)
  • DjFlex52 #65 4 years ago

    @headbog

    Do you actually believe you aren't a fanboy? Truly in your heart, is that what you think?

    I try not to get involved in these things, and I have zero people on my ignore list because I think everyone has something valid to say. But seriously, its just been tedious recently and you are so close to being the first. I could almost believe you are a LUA script sometimes.

    You force a pro-PS3 comment into every possible scenario often with painful clumsiness, you never have anything unique to say anymore (and I'm sure it didn't used to be like that), you attack anyone who points out how tedious and repetative you are being.

    You are like a scientologist dude. And I swear it wasn't always this way. I'm sure that you used to have other stuff to talk about that didn't entirely hinge around trying to put down the 360.

    The day you bought a PS3 was the day you died a little bit inside. Come back to us, its not too late :)

    @kangarootoo

    ^ + (lol@scientologist dude comment)
    hmm, no response from headbog...good!

    "i thought there was a TR game on the 360 already..."

    @vegard

    There are 2 TR games on the 360 while Uncharted is a TR/GOW hybrid, anyway, headbog.
  • GordonJ #66 4 years ago

    @Tim

    That whole picture is a pixelated, jaggy mess.
  • kangarootoo #67 4 years ago

  • 7creature #68 4 years ago

    Hmm, another parkour then? Pity.
  • kangarootoo #69 4 years ago

    @headbog

    Do you think I am an Xbox loving goon? I own a PS3 and I like it very much.

    Its really not a matter of being overdefensive, its more a case of boredom creping in after reading the same templated post from you every time you fire up your keyboard.

    The PS3 is a piece of electronic equipment. Its not your mum, its not your favourite teddy bear, its not your first kiss. Seriously, you can love a thing too much sometimes, and it won't love you back I guarantee it.

    Of course, neither will a 360 or a Wii or a Blackberry or a Macbook. Which is exactly my point. I'm not saying transfer your fanboy madness to a different platform, but rather just cut it out completely and enjoy games wherever they are played. if you don't like TR, don't buy it, play Uncharted instead and BE HAPPY.

    You remind me of Golem with the ring, and we all know how that ended.
  • kangarootoo #70 4 years ago

    @farticusmaximus

    Man, talk about coffee pots.

    You are just as bad, you just happen to be having a love affair with a different combination of plastic and metal.
  • notouch001 #71 3 years ago

    I gave up on Tomb Raider after Angel of dakness. That game was cock awful. I should really pay the series a visit again.
    Xbox 360 sale blog.