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Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 Review

Xbox 360 Review by Dan Whitehead

10 September, 2007

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Is it that time of year already? The time when another Tiger Woods golf game ambles onto the fairway of life, prompting us all to chuckle at how it's the same as the last one and who buys these things and blah blah blah? Such cynicism is understandable, given the rather lazy port which heralded the series' next-gen debut with PGA Tour 06. Last year's update improved on that uninspiring start (not a difficult task) and, inevitably, this latest variation offers an even more tweaked and buffed experience.

But is it enough to entice the suspicious multitudes into making a purchase? The answer: probably.

Gameplay, for once, has undergone some obvious changes. The biggest additions to the game - the much vaunted GamerNet and Game Photo Face functions - are sort of sitting off to the side of the main game itself, so let's do a quick recap of the mostly positive enhancements made to the actual gameplay before we tackle those features.

The most sweeping change in this regard is the one that you probably won't notice until you've created your own golfer and played with them for a while. As with 07, all new golfers are rubbish. I mean, really. They're embarrassing. Fudging putts, hooking drives and generally making you wonder if your fingers have been replaced with sausages filled with wool. Tackling the PGA tournaments with such a golfer is a waste of time, so you're forced instead to spend your time in the additional game modes - especially Tiger Challenge - to build up your skills.

Whereas the tradition in previous games was to allow you to earn and allocate points to increase your different skills, this time EA has taken a more organic route to self-improvement. Your skills are automatically enhanced whenever you play well so, even if you lose a round, provided you were getting better at, say, driving then your skill in that area goes up regardless. It's a long and often arduous process, and one that will inevitably frustrate many. It's also refreshingly realistic, meaning you have to approach the game as you would in real life.

'Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08' Screenshot 1

The new 'wasp's eye view' camera: not as useful as you might think.

If you want to improve your putting, you need to practice putting. And keep practising. Play, play, play. The more you play the better you get, and while it'll be a lengthy wait before you can challenge the pros, it also eliminates the super-golfer syndrome that kicked in during previous Tiger Woods games, where shrewd upgrading could turn a wannabe into a champ far too quickly. If you're hitting good shots here it's because you're good at those shots, not because you bribed the game into making them easier.

This is all backed up by the new Shot Confidence system, which constantly monitors how you perform with different clubs, strokes and conditions and gives you a skill boost should you find yourself in a situation that matches your natural aptitude. It's always there, silently judging like an ex-girlfriend, and while the hardcore players can summon up the related stats to see where practice is needed, it's perfectly possible to just leave it ticking away, adding an almost invisible but notable element of human chemistry to the cold physics calculations.

Also of noteworthy newness is the return of the 3-Click feature, an absolute boon for those who struggle with the analogue stick system for taking shots. It's the tried and trusted method of hitting balls in golf games - click once to start the meter, click again to set the power, again on the way back for direction. A prod of the right stick switches between the systems whenever you need, so you can use the stick for a powerful drive, then swap to a 3-Click shot for added accuracy for a medium shot onto the green, and then back to the stick for putting. Or whatever combination works for you. Given that judging power levels on the stick can be something of an arcane art, being able to choose on the fly is most welcome.

'Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08' Screenshot 2

The courses look great from a distance, but things can get clunky up close.

Additionally, the left and right bumpers are now used to draw and fade your shots - sort of like curling a shot past the keeper in FIFA. Especially handy for negotiating dogleg fairways, or shaving past a hazard, you can now dictate the curve of your shot by shunting your target circle before lifting the club, an idiot-proof visual system far more reliable than trusting in your thumb to do the work on the swing itself. Spin can be added to the ball in the air, which - yes - is rather unrealistic but it reduces the pre-stroke clutter to a minimum and keeps you engaged once you let fly.

Also new is the Putt Preview, which overlays the trajectory of your putt over a topographic grid of the green before you commit. Another traditional feature of golf games past, it's just enough help without making things stupidly easy. Unavailable in the higher rankings, and only available once per hole even in basic play, you can't aim during the preview - only see what would happen if you took the shot now. For make-or-break long putts, it's a valuable safety net. There's also a new game mode (the amusingly titled Bingo Bango Bongo, in which points are scored for being first to the green, closest to the hole and for winning the hole) but, for a series so often derided for its lack of innovation, I'd say that's a decent amount of evolution on display.

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kincaide
10/09/07 @ 13:03
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I hear the DS version is very good too (the Wii version is broken though - booooooooooooo)
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10/09/07 @ 13:06
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For some reason I'm finding the analogue stick inconsistent when taking shots with it, more so than either of the previous two versions on the 360. Thus, for me, the only way to play this game is using the 3-click system which actually makes judging distances far easier.

Also the game should lose a mark for the Tiger Challenge bug that freezes the game, it's all very well saying that it can be avoided by holding down A but that's not really the point, is it? When you're paying upwards of £50 RRP for a game you expect it to have at least been bug tested so how that one slipped through the net I do not know. It apparently isn't present in the PS3 version.

Overall, it's a good game but very, very familiar and the graphics could have been a lot better. I don't think it deserves more than 7/10 personally.
TedMoseby
10/09/07 @ 13:12
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The DS version is horrible - it's as if someone decided there was no need for sound in the game, and what smattering there is, is horribly hissy and poor quality. Although technically the engine is probably better than Touch Golf's, in every aspect that counts - feel, looks, and above all fun, Touch Golf beats the DS version of Tiger Woods '08 hands down in my opinion.
Darren
10/09/07 @ 13:13
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Bionick - "Another game where I don't know what to think. Some reviews slate this game as trash, and then we have 8/10 here."

At the end of the day, it's only EG's, and the reviewer's at that, opinion but it does seem odd that GameSpot gave this game 6.5 and EG 8. I'd have expected the score to have been the other way round really as EG tend to come across as more critical. Personally I think Tiger Woods 08 isn't an 8/10 game because of the bugs, dodgy analogue stick control and the disappointing visuals, which are identical to last year.
DanWhitehead
10/09/07 @ 13:14
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I seriously considered marking it down for the Tiger Challenge bug but, in the end, the good outweighs the bad. It's a bug that only occurs in one specific point, and one that can be bypassed quite simply. Yes, it's a shame that this sort of thing can make it into a finished game, but on balance I don't feel it's the sort of game-breaking fault that should put people off.

As for the score, the last game got 7/10 and this is a marked improvement both in terms of gameplay and additional features. There's always going to be an element of sameyness with this sort of title - golf not being the sort of sport that changes radically every year - so the worth of the game for returning players comes from how they improve the gameplay and/or add in extra value. Tiger Woods 08 does both of those things.
FlamingCarrot
10/09/07 @ 13:17
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Are the "wacky" commentators still rambling on about spinach etc?
Eraserhead
10/09/07 @ 13:21
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Yes they are. Although they do now comment if you do a good/bad shot based on the confidence system.

I do think it's a better game overall than 07. However, there's another far more serious freezing bug which I and many other people are now encountering. Basically the game freezes after the second hole on *any* course, mode or whatever - a hard freeze, meaning you have to turn the 360 off manually.

It's all over the official forums and while EA is aware of it, they're being typically useless at saying when it'll be fixed or what causes it, and there are no working solutions (unlike the other issue). It's extremely frustrating as it basically means the game is unplayable at the moment.
Arwin
10/09/07 @ 13:22
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Wake me up when I can tie my sixaxis at the end of a golfstick and let the motion controls kick in. ;)

The graphics are indeed a little underwhelming. That's a real shame, as good graphics would really add to the generally relaxing atmosphere of a golf game.

Other than that, these games are generally not bad.

How's the online play?
JackyB
10/09/07 @ 13:25
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"When you're paying upwards of £50 RRP for a game"

who does that then?
Games are only £40 on the high street, and cheaper still online
jack_klugman
10/09/07 @ 13:29
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Space. Giraffe.
ilmaestro
10/09/07 @ 13:53
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Did the review mention that the difficulty sliders aren't there for some reason? Or are they actually there and I've missed them (I've only messed around with it for a few minutes).
Chaote-Imagicka
10/09/07 @ 13:56
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Why is this not Space Giraffe?
FooAtari
10/09/07 @ 14:01
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Another game where I don't know what to think. Some reviews slate this game as trash, and then we have 8/10 here.

I'll pass.


Some? Looking at Gamerankings, out of 16 reviews so far only one gives less than 70%, Gamespot and TW08 its averaging 81%. Looks like EG's reviews are about on par with the average...
LiamK
10/09/07 @ 14:05
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The one thing that has driven me crazy for the last couple of years is the removal of the multiplayer season mode. I want to play with my own golfer with my mates, but I don't want to have to sit around and watch everyone build up their stats individually on Tiger Challenge. The old games enabled you to all play the seasons together, as guests. Why on earth was this option removed, and (more to the point), why hasn't it been added back in?

(In fact, there's a general lack of features that were in the old games. Some of them are fluff, like the sponsers, but other's were quite nice. I want it to rain, goddamnit.)

(Oh, and the EA forums are hilarious. People threatening to sue because the gameface option is being flakey at the moment. God bless histerical Americans.)
bengray66
10/09/07 @ 14:10
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I wouldnt mind reading a review of NHL 08, i quite enjoyed the last one, in my opinion the best of these EA yearly updates.

Also Eurogamer, i couldnt help but notice you don't have NHL 08 on your release dates page, 21st of september i believe is the current UK release date FYI.

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smugla
10/09/07 @ 14:12
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The links effect.

BRING BACK LINKS

why did M$ bendover to get EA

as there is no other golf title on the 360 EA do as little as they can get away with

cant believe that theres ONLY 1 golf game on the 360

Amajiro
10/09/07 @ 14:20
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I just don't get the skills progression thing. It sounds to me that rather than the player practising and improving his/her skills, instead they can remain at their original skill level while the game gets easier around them. What's the point in that? If I want to get better at putting, of course I should practice it, but if sheer perserverence get's the reward anyway it sounds backwards.
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miiiguel
10/09/07 @ 14:22
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Smugla: 3D Ultra MiniGolf
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bivith
10/09/07 @ 14:32
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Links 2004 on the XBox ( via the 360 ) is all the golf game you need.
neilqpr
10/09/07 @ 14:47
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Apart from the Tiger Woods Challenge bug (which I can't seem to bypass even using the workaround) I'm really enjoying this. Shot confidence really does seem to have an effect on your shots, and as I've mentioned in the other thread gamernet is a great feature.

It's by no means perfect but it seems as though they have made a bit more of an effort this year.
Hog-lumps
10/09/07 @ 15:00
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One day they'll make a 'free roaming' golf game that allows you to walk from where you took the shot to where the ball has landed. Afterall, trying to find your ball amongst the rough is half the challenge!!

\is rubbish golfer
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10/09/07 @ 15:03
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EG standards are all over the shop. Blue Dragon is 5 and TW08 is worth 8.

No wonder games are so dull and uninspired if reviewers collaborate in this farce.

thebuzzard
10/09/07 @ 15:03
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This review and the MOH:A leads me to but one conclusion, EG has been bought out by EA.
DanWhitehead
10/09/07 @ 15:05
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If I want to get better at putting, of course I should practice it, but if sheer perserverence get's the reward anyway it sounds backwards.

It's not perseverance though. You only get a stat increase when you do something well, not just when you do something. It's basic positive reinforcement. Hit a strong drive straight down the middle of the fairway and the game makes a note of that and improves your stats accordingly in recognition. Keep making bad drives and your drives will stay bad.
Madafunkola
10/09/07 @ 15:05
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If it is called "TIGER WOODS PGA Tour 08"... why does the front of the box appear to have a photo of Jermaine Jackson playing golf???
FlamingCarrot
10/09/07 @ 15:17
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You couldn't beat Jack Nicklaus golf on the Amiga. The screen updates that took forever...
Kids these days are spoilt
Darren
10/09/07 @ 15:48
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@JackyB - Tiger Woods 08 carries a recommended retail price of £49.99 as do most Xbox 360 games in fact, which some unscrupulous shops will no doubt charge for it. Anyone with any sense will obviously buy online or from a shop that sells the game for £39.99 or less though. That's why I said upwards of £50. ;)
bcolter
10/09/07 @ 16:24
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Downloaded the demo and was so disappointed with the graphics... It looks absolutly NO different from 07... Such a rip off.
Monkey_Puncher
10/09/07 @ 16:25
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The 5 new courses are actually quite a large graphical upgrade on the previous years offering, just a shame that last years courses still look exactly the same and kinda stick out like a sore thumb next to the new ones.
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10/09/07 @ 16:27
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"Links 2004 on the XBox ( via the 360 ) is all the golf game you need."

+ oo

That game was the most fun I had on the original Xbox, and I wish MS would release a 360 sequel with the exact same gameplay but with a lot more real golfers and events as well as updated graphics and sound.
asphaltcowboy
10/09/07 @ 16:39
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@Darren,

Surely it's downwards of £50 and upwards of £37.99?
MrChuckles
10/09/07 @ 17:02
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Last TW i played was on the xbox. Tbh, this is the best game i played, right up there with PGA Tour on my Amiga and 4d sports golf on my BBC B :-)

The last time i played TW it was so insultingly easy, i won every round, but the first tourney of the season in 08, i was 20 over par by the end of it, although i'm in the top 5 in the next tourney at about 8 under.

I really like it, although it does take a while to work out how to hit something at 75% with the analogue stick, you have to do it with the position your golfer holds the club rather than how hard you swing it. About 50% through the animation equates to 75% power.

Hope that helps.
greggywocky
10/09/07 @ 17:17
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RE MULTIPLAYER: The online is still uttterly terrible, and doesn't seem to have been changed at all - in fact it's worse. Now, if a player decides to quit, the whole session collapses. Not good.

Out of the fifteen games I played last Friday, only 4 went the distance without crashing or somebody quitting and the game crashing.

I haven't been on it since.
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Pulsar_t
10/09/07 @ 19:03
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Golf? Is that even a proper sport?

/is sorry

Not..
sn3jk
10/09/07 @ 19:55
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TW Golf 05 on xbox was good methinks. After that they've been a bit rubbish.
FlangeSpanna
10/09/07 @ 21:30
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"Out of the fifteen games I played last Friday, only 4 went the distance without crashing or somebody quitting and the game crashing.
I haven't been on it since. "

Agreed, Got to master status, bought some really nice clubs but $2,000 short for a spangly pair of pants. Now when I go back to play ANY challenge, as soon as I put the ball in the first hole, the 360 crashes.

£40 for 8 hours of agonising punishment. Could of bought a butt plug! If I'd kept the receipt...
Sid Nice
11/09/07 @ 02:43
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You're right to use the headline "The links Effect" as the game stinks.

ImRonBurgundy?
11/09/07 @ 08:44
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11/09/07 @ 10:26
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So where's the Space Giraffe review?
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11/09/07 @ 14:27
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Did the review mention that the difficulty sliders aren't there for some reason? Or are they actually there and I've missed them (I've only messed around with it for a few minutes).

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