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Mortal Online Hands On

MMO PC Hands On by Jim Rossignol

26 January, 2010

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A sandbox fantasy MMO seems an unlikely prospect in today's landscape. And it is. Nevertheless, Mortal Online has wandered over the horizon without a second glance at current trends. It's an open-ended fantasy MMO where player interaction - not PvE - is at the forefront, powered by Unreal 3, talking about the good old days. It's a strange sight.

To understand this oddity you have to look a little further back in the mists of MMO history and realise that it's an attempt to build on former glories. The main protagonist in this earlier epoch was called Ultima Online, which was the first of the great MMOs. It's still going today, albeit much diminished from its original finery. Unlike the lineage of online RPGs that followed EverQuest, including good old World Of Warcraft, the original vision of Ultima was to allow players to mess around in an open world. The idea was to give players various tools in this virtual world and see what they got up to. That meant few constraints on PvP, player-built housing, bits and pieces of clever emergent activity, and lots of crafting.

This was, for many gamers, a freedom the like of which they had seldom seen in any game, never mind a multiplayer one. It was, however, a slow, time-consuming experience, and unforgiving on solo players. MMOs are complex and time-hungry at the best of times, but UO demanded a different level of commitment, precisely because it modelled so much of the world. The Ultima design philosophy hasn't found much traction in MMOs that have followed, with only games like EVE Online, and now Mortal Online, stooping to pick up that heavy gauntlet.

'Mortal Online' Screenshot 1

Combat is fairly chaotic, and, when you are just in your pants, tends to end in death.

Mortal, being developed by Swedish studio StarVault, is focused on creating an experience that lives up to the legacy of Ultima Online: returning to that philosophy of freedom and player co-operation while at the same time carving out its own niche with modern tech. Mortal Online is powered by the Unreal 3 engine - employing a new landscape engine to create an immense terrain - and is played with a first-person camera. While StarVault has evidently been galvanised by the Ultima way of doing things, its game has a look and feel of its own. You might be able to grind up resources like in UO, but exploring a 3D world is quite a different experience.

StarVault's community manager, Alexander Politz, is careful to balance expectations in his description of this synthesis of new and old: "A lot of our systems are following UO very closely. We had to bring them to the 'next gen' of course, and augmented them where we had to. Already a large part of our player base are what you would call UO-vets and we're getting very positive feedback from them. That does not mean that we are simply copying UO of course. There are a lot of things that make Mortal Online unique but yes, we like to think of our game as a spiritual successor to Ultima Online in some ways."

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PlugMonkey
26/01/10 @ 12:29
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"Just for example: our 'boss-mobs' don't respawn, if you kill the mighty dragon, it's dead and stays dead. "

Fantastic. This is what kills practically every single MMO for me: nothing I do stays done. I get given a mission to, say, rescue someone. I go and queue up behind someone else who is rescuing them, I rescue them, and then when I run past later there they are. Still being rescued.

It's incredibly un-immersive, to the point of being slightly creepy in a Groundhog Day sort of a way, and not so much massively multiplayer as single player with a load of other people running round in it.
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26/01/10 @ 12:48
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God I hope they succeed with this. I've tried so many online RPGs over the last few years and none of them live up to the promises of the genre or even the promises they make themselves. With the Star Trek Online beta I finally came to the conclusion that there's something really pointless about the illusion of persistence that these games trade on. They bring you in, invariably, with a marketing campaign built around how important you are, and your creative freedom, and then stick you on rails that make any individuality you could bring to the game meaningless.

That said I don't necessary feel like these games have no place - they're fun, in an incredibly stage-managed sense, and that's what a lot of people look for in games. We desperately need two genres where we currently have one. That way we can stop complaining about the decline of the MMO and start complaining that no MMOs - other than EVE - are actually getting made.
Cpt.Hindsight
26/01/10 @ 12:55
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I heard about this a while back, was turned off by it being first person, but having read this preview it has gone right back on my radar, I love the idea of once a boss is dead, it is dead, could really create legends in this game, people will talk about the brave heroes that killed some famous monster, awesome! I wish them the best of luck as it sounds very ambitious!

Plus the website is very good, I can usually tell a lot about whether an mmo will be worth it by how the site looks :P
Jockie
26/01/10 @ 13:49
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I've been following MO for some time now (was actually turned onto it in the RPS forums), the Starvault guys have a great vision for their game and some brilliant ideas. But early word from the beta and its various iterations was that the game was close enough to unplayable that many of the pre-order beta guys were demanding their money back. Sounds like it's evolving into something more along the liens of what was initially promised though and hopefully it can live up to its potential.

That said, it could still end up as Darkfall 2, depending on the playerbase.
HoraceGoesSquiffy
26/01/10 @ 13:51
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Oddly, apart from the clunky graphics I find the idea of this quite exciting - provided they can make the world seamless with as little as possible (or no) instancing. One of the things WoW has right is the unbroken travelling around the world.
Shikasama
26/01/10 @ 15:09
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Not sure why everyone is so excited about the bosses not respawning.

So there is a group of Ensidia/Nihilum like guys on your server (who don't go to work, eat or sleep until the new boss is dead). Awesome, now you can NEVER experience game content, because there is no gradual conversion process from the 'hardcore' mode (newly released) to the 'casual' mode (out for a while, everyone geared up).

Sounds like the kind of game that will be 'hardcore or GTFO' and if there is ONE thing that the MMO industry has learned, is that this is a recipe for disaster.
Cpt.Hindsight
26/01/10 @ 16:14
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@Shikasama

That makes it more real tho, like someone had said, people lining up to kill the same mob over and over kinda shatters any illusions of "reality" WOW has changed the MMO world, for the worse in my opinion and I don't hate WOW, played if for 2 years, but I think it has made people not really understand what an mmo is anymore, to me, MO sounds like an MMO and I applaud them for at least trying and hope the results match the ambition!
Soulwind
26/01/10 @ 17:07
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I agree with Shikasama...the players who live on coffee and benefits will be the ones who have enough time to reach the endgame and they will dominate, forming 'elite' groups of the very best players.
Anyone who works or has a family doesn't stand a chance!
MaxiSleep
26/01/10 @ 17:37
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Sounds like a total gankfest. No thanks.
PlugMonkey
26/01/10 @ 17:50
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The thing is though, I don't really care about reaching the end game or becoming one of the 'elite'. I just want to be able to have some sort of meaningful impact, however small, on some tiny corner of the world. WoW and WAR and Fallen Earth and Star Trek have all so far completely failed to let me do that.

I don't see why the caffeine and benefits crowd should stop me from doing that.
Dizzy
26/01/10 @ 18:40
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While I understand the ideas of these guys, I can't help but think MMOs have moved on. Yes I played this kind of game in the 90s. And it was fun because it was new, not because it was an awesome game idea. Full looting PvP everywhere makes for a crap gameplay experience for most. Like someone said, get ready for a disaster.
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Vyggo
26/01/10 @ 18:53
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It probably just means that the same dragon will spawn somewhere else on the map with a different randomized name. Truelly impacting the world in this fashion is the holy grail. It can probably only be achieved with a huge team of talented "game-managers" and great tools to help them shape the world and interact with players on a scale we haven't seen yet.

I doubt this game has the resources to pull that off.
Shrike
26/01/10 @ 19:38
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@Shikasama

You're correct if you assume that people's gameplay objectives are going to be the same as they are in WoW, which is to get the best loot because there is nothing else worth doing. Like PlugMonkey says, many players want a way of determining their own criteria for success - building up a village, owning a successful business, etc - without having goals prescribed to them by the game. It's only 'Hardcore or GTFO' if you see dragon killing as the only part of the game with any meaning to you.

If they do this right there won't even be a 'gameplay' reason for killing a dragon: it'll be a prestige thing, in which case, it'll go to the people who want it the most. That seems fair to me.

The notion that everyone has to be able to see all the content is what leads to stale, prescriptive gameplay, in this and any number of other genres. The appeal of multiplayer games, for me, is that the experience is emergent, not scripted, even if the game has to be rough around the edges to make it possible. That's the reason I've gone from being someone with 2+ MMO subs at any given time to someone with none in the space of five years. I've no interest in paying monthly for a theme park if the rides are going to be the same every time I go.
Maerlyn
27/01/10 @ 00:19
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@Vyggo
No, the mobs won't be recycled. An Epic Mob is a one-time only thing. Played by SV staff - once killed it's dead.
Since the Epics are tied into the world itself players will have to face some tough decisions. One group of players might want to use the Epic for their own plans, others see it as a god and again others just want to kill it to craft truly unique items from the resources gained from the body (think Dragon scale armor, Dragon horn spears, unique reagents for really powerfull spells, etc.).
Vyggo
27/01/10 @ 01:12
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Ok, so they are going to use "game-managers". That's a promising direction at least, in theory. Yes, I am still sceptical.
Svecke
27/01/10 @ 03:35
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This sounds like a fantasy take on the EvE formula, which should be fantastic for the players who's been searching for something like that. Though it also has the subtle undertone of "if you don't make this game your life, you won't get -anywhere-"...
Zapatero
27/01/10 @ 09:13
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I've been tinkering with the almost-beta. Absolute pain to patch and get running, empty world, no signposts of what to do and where to go. The masses will hate it. Count me in as a potential fan :)
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27/01/10 @ 09:57
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The game is at Alpha stage .

the concepts described here are ideals , and not based on anything thats actually been implemented.

if i read this without having known or played MO , I would be well up for purchasing it , but the article is misleading , I appreciate it generates some interest in the game , but what you will be paying for at this stage is an alpha , an empty world , an update system that will useually have you downloading the entire game again, destinct lack of support , there are people in the "beta" who have not been able the thing running and they have been there for months.

It has some great ideas , and yes would be fantastic if it works , but the approuch is amature, and if you pay for this game , make no mistake that you what you are actually doig is funding the development , and not purchasing a product.

An example would be if you purchased the boxed version ( @ £65 !!! ) , you would have recently received a tin case with a nice logo, inside no manual , nothing , there is a dvd inside that contains an out of date , completly useless beta client, you will need to download the entire client aroung 5gb ( not update) , so some of the money you paid went into burning and pressing& posting accross europe and the US MO DVD's and that are essentially land fill ands serve no purpose, whatsoever



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polaris70
27/01/10 @ 11:31
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Why do people talk about an "Endgame" when talking about a sandbox MMO? There is no Endgame. Think of EVE online, is there an Endgame to that? Mortal has a lot of similarities to EVE, even some of the learning skills can be learnt when you are not logged in, like EVE. I hope this game succeeds and grows as there is room for it if it realizes its potential.
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27/01/10 @ 11:49
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Svecke: A fantasy take on the EvE formula would be about perfect, esp. if they could make it a little more accessible at the early stages. Science fiction, by its very nature, thrusts you into a very complex world. Starting off as a peasant with an axe, it sounds as though my initial interactions with the world are going to be far more straight forward.
Svecke
27/01/10 @ 16:36
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PlugMonkey: Yeah, you're right, I didn't consider that. And if they play their cards right and let you slide into the game smoothly from start to mid-game, you might effortlessly settle into the more advanced late game naturally.
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Mono_X
27/01/10 @ 16:53
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I remember reading some blog/column by someone who was working on a MMORPG (this was years ago).
They didn't like the way that monsters just spawned. So they developed a system that allowed monsters to 'breed' and multiply in a more 'organic' manner.
Unfortunately, they didn't take in account the way players behave. Very quickly all the creatures were killed and made extinct. And once the mobs were gone, it meant no more drops or xp.
Needless to say they very quickly dropped the 'organic' system.
So if you're going to have a MMO with anything like real persistence, you need to know exactly what you're doing - otherwise it will turn into a complete diaster.
Mono_X
27/01/10 @ 17:07
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@Shrike
'You're correct if you assume that people's gameplay objectives are going to be the same as they are in WoW, which is to get the best loot because there is nothing else worth doing. Like PlugMonkey says, many players want a way of determining their own criteria for success - building up a village, owning a successful business, etc - without having goals prescribed to them by the game. It's only 'Hardcore or GTFO' if you see dragon killing as the only part of the game with any meaning to you.'

This is all well and good until the clan of players who 'like to kill things and take their stuff' come across your village or business and then kill you and take your stuff! And you have to start again and again and again.
Cpt.Hindsight
27/01/10 @ 18:04
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@Mono_X that sounds like fun! And what I think a lot of people, myself included, are looking for in an MMO, something that WoW does not offer :)
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27/01/10 @ 23:37
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If this guy had played it he wouldn't be so hopeful. Gameplay is close to non-existant, is a lag-fest, or plain sucks. You can argue whether 1stPV is good or bad but me, I think it sucks for an MMO. This game needs at least 6 months more development minimum just to be fully playable, the question is whether SV can stay afloat that long or not -- they have already milked us (their loyal community) with their pay-to-play beta.

After the Ed Zitron Darkfall review fiasco where the reviewer only played the newbie area for 2.5 hours before writing his review, I ought to have known that EuroGamer has little to no journalistic credibility when it comes to MMOs.
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Oli staff
28/01/10 @ 10:13
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unprofessional - Jim has played Mortal Online. That's why we called the article a "hands on".

Koozer
28/01/10 @ 13:46
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"This is all well and good until the clan of players who 'like to kill things and take their stuff' come across your village or business and then kill you and take your stuff! And you have to start again and again and again."

Then your village will need a Watch, defending the smithy from marauding bandits. Maybe eventually you can build town walls, and a keep. I like this game already.

I hate all the hand-holding and friendliness of WoW-like MMO worlds. Why should the game tell me which NPCs I can and can't attack? Is it so poorly designed that it would break if players were free to do what they wanted?

That organic mob breeding system sounds fantastic, just needs to be a little more robust. It could lead to situations where a particularly valuable creature is over hunted, leading a crafting guild to hire mercenaries to protect a herd so they don't become extinct. Or maybe the animals could be caught and bred within a town, while the wild populations die out. The towns that owned these animals could become rich from the rare resources, or the target of attacks to get at them.

Oooh, the possibilities!
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Mono_X
28/01/10 @ 19:16
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'Is it so poorly designed that it would break if players were free to do what they wanted? '

Yes. You clearly underestimate player behaviour. :P
Dracocombine
27/02/10 @ 02:50
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After a day of 6 game and system crashes at the same time,MO has a long way to go.Its still in Alpha stage not Beta.You cannot move foward or backwards with any character,inventory or items screens open,but you can move from side to side.You cannot chat in world and walk at the same time either.Most progress i made exploring was when i was dead.Yes you heard me while i was in ghost form.No radar or maps to pull up.If its nighttime and you create a character ,your SOL since you dont have a torch to see anything.Your locked in first person mode permenantly.There is no tutorial.All the npc's are dressed in white with eyes open permenantly,not even a blink.LOL!The only things to hunt are gazelles,wild boar and rabbits and thats if you can catch them.LOL!It was hilarious watching a melee dude try and kill one of those gazelles.
When you do come across a group a people guess what they are doing?LOL yep ganking each other.I tried getting some help a few times but got ignored.Its strange since across their forums they say learn how to play yet how can i when i cant see anything?(night time)Or when folks are speaking Russian?LMAO!
Im sorry but i just think its hilariously poor attempt to bring back skill based MMOs.Without content ,yes thats means PVE ,no MMO will last.Spellborn uses the same engine as MO and its 3 years old.
This reminds me of folks bragging about creating SWG the way it was supposed to be and that failed also.I cant even rate MO because i havent played it yet!LMAO!
Uninstalling it now.Good luck in the future MO ,your going to need it.
levitate
17/05/10 @ 11:54
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Sandbox MMOs sound like a second job to me for some reason. It's perfect for those unemployed people with benefits. For me; I have enough to do at work.
craziii
18/05/10 @ 17:41
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fully lootable player bodies! hahaah, I can't wait to see how that works :P

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