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AC/DC Live: Rock Band Review

Review by Kieron Gillen

6 January, 2009

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Amazingly, there are bigger problems with reviewing this than the fact that all the AC/DC-related gags have been worn thin by pieces on other rhythm-action games. That's just what happens when about half your song output is about hailing the wonder that is ROCK. (The other half being about hailing the wonder that is sexual congress).

The problem is that the whole thing is somewhat slight - and the question is how much does that matter? It's a standalone version of Rock Band which is being sold for about 25 quid, but only contains the eighteen tracks of AC/DC's Live at Donington album. It's effectively a Track Pack - in fact, it's being marketed as such in the US. You're able to import all the music into your Rock Band library with an included code. In fact, if you do own the game, you probably want to do that immediately, as the software is openly crippled compared to even basic Rock Band 1.

There's no ability to access the Rock Band shop or play any of your other downloadable content - which, perhaps, is understandable in that they didn't want to the game to be a cheap solus pack for those who are only into DLC. What's less understandable is the lack of a character editor, meaning you're stuck playing with whatever random, amusingly-clad cretins the game chooses to generate.

Which is a problem with AC/DC. If you're specifically buying into the fantasy of being AC/DC, you want to be the exact amusingly-clad cretins that are AC/DC. Or, at least, have the option to be them. If I'm not wearing a schoolboy's outfit, the guitar solos - no matter how enormous - are somewhat lacking. Same goes for the stage shows. Being a punk-metal Midlands kid in the early 90s, I listened to tales of wonder from older kids who'd seen AC/DC live, with podiums and fireworks and bloody cannons. Cannons! AC/DC are a band with cannons in their songs! While a dedicated cannon-based peripheral is probably too much to ask, you'd want something to embellish the dream of school-trousered Rock-Godism in game. But no. It's just stripped down Rock Band with AC/DC songs.

And I really do mean stripped down. As well as the previously mentioned absences, there's no online play and no real tour mode. Rather than zipping around the world to different destinations, it's basically slowly ascending the set-list, one song at a time, whether you're playing solo or as a group - so if you get stuck, you're stuck. One good point is that there's no real need to bother. Outside of the game modes, all the eighteen are available in Quickplay.

But just to marry that with a bad one, it appears this was built on Rock Band rather than Rock Band 2, so problems that had been consumed by the great beast of history come climbing bloodily out of its maw, like being unable to continue playing a previously started tour game without at least a couple of members. Perhaps most weirdly, for a game that promises to let you play a whole set, there's no locatable option to just play all eighteen songs in order. Or, in fact, any multiple-song set at all.

The tour mode being in the set-list creates another problem too. While I'm sure it rocked Donington, AC/DC weren't exactly thinking about little things like difficulty curves when they were planning it out. That means that you have these random spikes when a tricky song makes its appearance. I suspect "Thunderstruck" will be a relatively brutal opener for a newcomer, for example. The hardest song, "Let There Be Rock" - the only one that tripped me up playing through first time on my usual weakling Hard - comes a couple of tracks before the end. The closing "Highway to Hell" and "For Those About To Rock (We Salute You)" are a welcome relief after the seemingly endless "Let There Be Rock". Or, "Let There Be Hand Cramp", as I prefer to think of it.

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smugla
06/01/09 @ 10:57
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06/01/09 @ 10:57
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Wow, who would ever have thought that the makers of Rock Band are only interested in ripping people off.
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06/01/09 @ 10:59
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damn, how could such a potentially great game be made so crap?
mechamonkey
06/01/09 @ 11:01
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2.... jesus.
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06/01/09 @ 11:01
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Wish they would release a New Wave of British Heavy Metal-pack instead with old Iron Maiden, Judas Priset, Saxon, (early) Def Leppard etc etc songs instead. And maybe a Swedish Death Metal-pack with Entombed, Dismember, At The Gates, early In Flames, Tiamat and so on? And Norwegian Black Metal :D Poor drummers.


ManicDrunkMonk
06/01/09 @ 11:02
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Oh dear :-(
seasidebaz
06/01/09 @ 11:03
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Bizarrely, that's the same score I'd give the REAL band.
Indy
06/01/09 @ 11:04
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And here I was thinking GH: Aerosmith was a dreadful effort...
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mazzl
06/01/09 @ 11:05
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EG revenge of the rock fan!
DFawkes
06/01/09 @ 11:06
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Wow. I was expecting "Good if you like AC/DC", but this really is bad. They could've at least let you use RB DLC. Or maybe they don't want to sell any DLC, I'm not sure.
jambolio
06/01/09 @ 11:18
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Meh, happy enough with the lunacy of "let there be rock" in RB2 too not need this, if it were to be released in DLC format I may snap up a couple of others, As a bonus though anyone fancy Roy Orbison?
DesperadoDaz
06/01/09 @ 11:26
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I am shamed to say i bought this - an impulse purchase during a trip to the sales.

I feel 2 out of 10 is slightly unfair, although i see the reasons why that score was given. I bought this as a track pack, but i now realise that 18 tracks for 25 quid is not good value for money.

The actual songs on the pack are good, although on Expert some of them are really difficult, especially at the beginning

A score of 5 out of 10 would be fair to me - but there is no reason that this could not have all been sold as DLC only.

I will not be fooled again
Goffee
06/01/09 @ 11:27
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You mean no inflatable giant-cleavaged woman peripheral?? - that would help it sell!
jonsaan
06/01/09 @ 11:29
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Nice review but can you play the game with a standard controller?
jonsaan
06/01/09 @ 11:31
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Why did they go for Live tracks?

Why not the actual tracks. Would have been awesome then.

Even more awesome if they were Bon Scott only!!
Toothball
06/01/09 @ 11:36
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I picked it up anyway, although mainly for using the tracks in Rock Band 2. Will probably play through what little career is available with some friends.
Thunderbolt!
06/01/09 @ 11:37
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jonsaan,

Why would you want to play with a standard controller when half the fun of the game is rocking out with the plastic guitar and posing like a rock star?

Silly I know but I keep the curtains drawn at all times :)

Scottw75
06/01/09 @ 11:38
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To buy 18 songs at 160 points a song is 2880 points.

Using an online converter this is £25 worth of points. You can pick this game up for £25 so im not sure what the issue is?

BremXJones
06/01/09 @ 11:39
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You buy a whole album you get them at a discounted price from buying it individually, basically. You're not buying them track for track.

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Weezer
06/01/09 @ 11:48
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Sorry to derail this thread, but is it possible to import RB1 tracks into RB2? I know you can do it with the North American version but what about the PAL release? On 360.

red_shift
06/01/09 @ 11:52
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I went halves on this with someone, he used the code and I kept the disk.
£15 is a pretty good deal if you ask me.
Weezer
06/01/09 @ 11:54
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Heh. Job done. Thanks!
Eraysor
06/01/09 @ 11:55
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Weezer, yes.

And I saw GAME selling this for £30. Needs to be heavily discounted before I purchase it.
jonsaan
06/01/09 @ 11:57
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@ Thunderbolt!

Well yes, but I actually like playing with a normal controller sometimes too.

So CAN YOU????

Please tell me. PS3 version preferably.
neilqpr
06/01/09 @ 12:03
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I also picked it up on impulse when I was going through heathrow. With the euro and sterling exchange rate it was no more than a cheap track pack for RB2. Can't really complain with the review, there has been no attempt to even try and make this an AC DC experience. How hard would it have been to create an Angus model. Or to have a couple of cannons at the side of the stage for those about to rock?

As I said, with the weak pound I'm happy enough with it as a track pack, but as a game in its own right its pretty shocking.
dazzaman
06/01/09 @ 12:05
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For those about to rip off consumers we salute you
Setaro
06/01/09 @ 12:08
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AC/DC are shit.
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06/01/09 @ 12:08
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@jonsaan:
"Well yes, but I actually like playing with a normal controller sometimes too.

So CAN YOU????

Please tell me. PS3 version preferably. "

why in the world would you play a rhytm/music game with a pad? that was funny for 20 minutes in boom boom rocket, but RB/GH with pads defies belief
NegativeZero
06/01/09 @ 12:12
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So, does this have the whole 15-minute or so Jailbreak where Angus spent half the song stripping while the bass and drums continue to play the same fucking three bars over and over and over? Or did they do the decent thing and abridge it?

To be honest, you'd think that if they're going to put together a set that's from a live recording like this, they'd at least replace the usual fugly harmonix faux-people footage with the actual matching Live at Donnington video bits, with the guitar notes and whatnot overlaid over the top.

They want 50 bucks for it here in Australia. That's about $30 more than I'd pay for a track pack regardless of the content, and I'm a reasonably big AC/DC fan.
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06/01/09 @ 12:13
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I haven't timed Jailbreak, but it is phenomenally long.

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06/01/09 @ 12:14
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"why in the world would you play a rhytm/music game with a pad? that was funny for 20 minutes in boom boom rocket, but RB/GH with pads defies belief"

do you remember Frequency and/or Amplitude?
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06/01/09 @ 12:26
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I think the biggest problem with Guitar Hero and Rock Band games is that guitar based music is unbelievably shit.

Now release Depeche Mode Synth Monster and I will show some interest.
tonynibbles
06/01/09 @ 12:28
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Wowzer.
Weezer
06/01/09 @ 12:31
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"Guitar based music is unbelievably shit." So you pretty much hate every major band since The Beatles with the exception of Depeche Mode.

Words fail me.
rhubarbandcustard
06/01/09 @ 12:34
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Weezer: You wear denim while playing air guitar to Status Quo?

Words fail me, sir.

Words fail ME.
Thunderbolt!
06/01/09 @ 12:38
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rhubarbandcustard

Depeche Mode also had their guitar period around Violator and Songs of Faith and Devotion - 'I feel you' springs to mind and Dave was off his head on heroin.

Surely that must tempt you?
frycrayola
06/01/09 @ 12:41
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Why live?

Ok, it's Live at Donnington, so you can understand that, but this is about live tracks in general. Fans of the band might really like them, but for others is it the same annoyance as it is for me?

I haven't bought My Generation as DLC, because it's live. See, the standard album/single versions are the ones everyone knows. The ones anyone who sings along to music sings along to. These karaoke titles rate you on how closely you match the pitch of the vocals. Most people who know a song will find it much easier (and more fun) to sing along to the original they remember, than having to sing it how Roger Daltrey or whoever sang it some night.

(Of course, if someone points out that My Generation isn't terribly far removed from the original, I might go back on this. :D )

The games do need some work on the vocal side of things to allow for natural flourishes instead of mimickry, but live versions take mimickry too far in my opinion. Great for the other instruments though, I'll give it that.
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06/01/09 @ 12:41
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Depeche mode are the shit.
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06/01/09 @ 12:43
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JahB

It's nice to have the option.

Also I can play a real guitar so I find the silly plastic ones completely confusing and stoopid. I actually like trying to crack a song using the pad. It's fun, for me. Each to his own..

Also, I like how nobody actually answers the question!
figgis
06/01/09 @ 12:49
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Depeche Mode = Erasure for goths.
jonsaan
06/01/09 @ 12:52
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Well they are sprung from the same brains orignally so...yeah.
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I'd actually finally buy one of these Rock Band/Guitar Hero thngs if they did a Depeche Mode version. Y'know, if that was even possible, you'd need a plastic keyboard/synth or something.
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Sp3ct3r
06/01/09 @ 13:08
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yeah, and coming up next: Rock Band- Village People, with hats, leathers and fake moustache
Chalee
06/01/09 @ 13:15
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Rock Band Pink Floyd = wait for 5 mins before you start playing

AWESOME!
StarchildHypocrethes
06/01/09 @ 13:25
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Some of the live versions on this album are miles better than the studio versions, so I'm quite looking forward to ROCKING OUT with this, once I've imported them into RB2.

The live Thunderstruck is awesome.
merkdot
06/01/09 @ 13:33
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I hate AC/DC but this score is stupid, imo. The basic gameplay is the point.

Also, implications of 'making an example of it' smacks of an incredible lack of professionalism. Yes, it's a cynical cash-in. No, it's not a "Avoid at all costs - this is less entertaining than setting fire to a ten-pound note" game. Of course it isn't.

"What you're facing here is a game with appalling generic visuals built around an awful design, cursed with cretinous AI, brain-frying audio and controls that feel like they've been designed to upset people or boost sales of replacement game pads. It could just be that the game is just so hideously old fashioned that someone has released the game by mistake. Who knows what goes through the minds of people who feel the need to try and sell crap? Pity them, and pity the fools that stock it and more so the morons that end up buying it without checking first. "

The review text doesn't match the scoring policy at all. This is more like a 5/6.
Slim
06/01/09 @ 13:42
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"Wow, who would ever have thought that the makers of Rock Band are only interested in ripping people off."

A little unfair. At least in Rock Band you can play your dlc and import songs across different versions. You can't do that in Guitar Hero.

Isn't it about time there was an open format for this stuff though? I'm a bit miffed at how many versions of the same song I've bought across Guitar Hero, Rock band, Singstar and Lips, it has to stop!
seasidebaz
06/01/09 @ 13:55
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Weezer
06/01/09 @ 14:12
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Rhubarbandcustard: Denim? Good God no. But I'll take Foo Fighters, Nirvana, QotSA, The Stones, Queen, RHCP, Muse, Oasis, etc etc etc over Depeche Mode. I don't mind a bit of Depeche, but you can't beat the electric squeal of a tortured guitar string. IMHO, of course.

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@frycrayola:

The Live at Leeds version of My Generation isn't that much different from the original recording. It's good fun you should go and buy it if you like the song!

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