Usually when we interview celebrities about videogames, they claim to like them. Gemma Atkinson told us she enjoys playing while on the toilet, for example, while Konnie Huq declared herself to be a fan of SimAnimals.
So it made a nice change to interview Terry Jones and Terry Gilliam - two famous people happy to say they couldn't give a toss, are only in it for the money and don't even really understand how the whole thing works.
They're hawking new Facebook games portal The Ministry of Silly Games. Free to access and due to launch next year, it'll feature a host of games based on classic Monty Python nonsense.
These include Camelot Smashalot and Gumby Flower Arranging - direct descendants, ahem, of Angry Birds and Bejeweled. Other offerings include Space Invaders-style shooter Gillaxian, puzzler Aerial Antics and self-explanatory Twit Roulette.
So what else can we expect from the Ministry? Why did the Terries get involved? Whose idea was it for David Bowie to wear those grey tights in Labyrinth? In this video, the Terries answer all these questions and more. We've also included a transcript of the interview for people at work, as the video does contain shrieking.
Eurogamer: Thank very much for meeting me today. Thank you also, I should say, as you're actually responsible for my entire existence.
Terry Jones: My God! You don't mean... No no no no no no no!
Terry Gilliam: I never touched your mother! It was him!
Terry Jones: I deny it, I deny it!
Eurogamer: I've actually come here for a DNA test... No. My Mum and Dad's first date consisted of my Dad, who'd only met my Mum in passing, knocking on my Mum's door and saying, "My telly's broken. I can't watch Monty Python. Can I come in and watch it on your telly?" 33 years later, here we are. So thanks for that.
Terry Gilliam: We apologise. Are you happy with your life?
Eurogamer: Well, you have also ruined it, because my Dad has been doing your catchphrases for 33 years. So when he produces this year's Christmas whoopie cushion and says, 'Breaks the ice at parties,' do you have a message I could give to him that will make him shut up?
Terry Jones: [Blows raspberry]
Eurogamer: Thank you very much. Obviously you're not here to talk about me, unfortunately, we're here to talk about your new Facebook game...
Terry Jones: Ellie, we would like to talk about you, as much as possible.
Terry Gilliam: Because we've been in the virtual world far too long. We want to get back to real people, flesh and blood.
Eurogamer: Maybe later, but first... How excited are you about this Facebook game?
Terry Gilliam: [Begins panting]
Terry Jones: Breathless. We're breathless with excitement.
Terry Gilliam: [Begins barking]
Terry Jones: So excited.
Terry Gilliam: Yeah.
Eurogamer: I can tell. Are you both on Facebook already, or have you really no idea what's going on?
Terry Jones: No, I've no idea about Facebook actually.
Terry Gilliam: We're very lonely old men.
Terry Jones: People say, 'Will you agree to be a friend?' or something like that, and I always do accept.
Terry Gilliam: Do you?
Terry Jones: Yes. But I never do anything with it, I never chase them up or anything like that.
Terry Gilliam: We believe in anti-social networks. That's what we're fighting for these days. A chance to be alone. Now that's the thing - can you be alone on Facebook?
Eurogamer: I think that might be sort of missing the whole point of the entire exercise, to be honest.
Terry Gilliam: Right, so that's... I won't be alone on Facebook, then.
Eurogamer: You could create a sort of pseudo-Facebook where you're the only member and you don't let anybody else on. That might work.
Terry Gilliam: Could you be on Facebook and have a lot of heavies around you to make sure that nobody can talk to you, because you're so important or... Lonely?
Eurogamer: I think if you make your own Facebook you can do pretty much what you like... Then there's Twitter as well, are you on Twitter?
Terry Jones: Twitter! I find emails take up half my day. The idea of having to spend any more time being in communication with people is just... Aararhahrahrghh [does famous ratbag woman voice] CAN'T STAND IT, I CAN'T STAND IT TERRY ARRAGHGHG.
Terry Gilliam: It's OK, it's OK. We have a game that they will play. They won't bother you any more. They'll play this game and they'll [starts panting again] and they'll be like that forever. You'll be safe.
Eurogamer: So basically you've invented this game as a means to stop people bothering you?
Terry Gilliam: Yes. Thank you. And...
Terry Jones: And making money. Quite honestly, that's what we're interested in. Terry's got to pay for his...
Terry Gilliam: My funeral. I'm raising money for that.
Terry Jones: And the gravestone.
Terry Gilliam: The gravestone. That's what we're talking about, I'll do one, a really beautiful one, big one, maybe an obelisk, and people who buy the games should be able to have their name on my gravestone. Wouldn't that be nice?
Eurogamer: That would be lovely. I wouldn't be so rude to ask you exactly how much money you're getting out of this, but if I could just ask, is it upwards of a hundred pounds?
Terry Jones: We don't know yet! It depends whether...
Terry Jones and Terry Gilliam: Four million people...
Terry Jones: ...Subscribe to the game. Then we might see some money. But we have no idea what we might make.
Terry Gilliam: Yeah. 3,999,999 won't do it. 4 million or nothing. There's this plateau. Then we're rich, beyond that. Below - paupers.
Eurogamer: So presumably it wasn't your idea to do this Facebook game? Someone came to you?
Terry Gilliam: We were forced into it.
Terry Jones: Yes, we were forced into it.
Terry Gilliam: His child was held hostage for a period of months.
Terry Jones: Otherwise we wouldn't have done it, because I understand these games are addictive and that we extort money out of young children and things like that.
Terry Gilliam: And since mainly the Python income has been cocaine and other hard drugs, this is going to take away from our real business, which is drugs.
Eurogamer: I thought it was terrorism.
Terry Gilliam: Terryism?
Terry Jones: Terryism? Yes, that's a good idea.
Eurogamer: The biggest game on Facebook right now is FarmVille, which it's claimed has 85 million active users per month.
Terry Gilliam: [Begins squeaking] Is that how you milk the cow? [More squeaking]
Eurogamer: Do you think the Ministry of Silly Games could be as popular as FarmVille?
Terry Jones: Well, we hope it will.
Terry Gilliam: We've got chickens.
Terry Jones: We've got chickens in there, yes. But you throw them at the castle, don't you?
Terry Gilliam: That's true, that is true. And we have a cow we throw. So this is practically the same business, it's practically the same game. You milk the cow on the other game and then you throw it in ours.
Terry Jones: I think the Ministry of Silly Games is complimentary to FarmVille.
Terry Gilliam: And Grand Theft Auto.
Terry Jones: Yes. And everybody who is on FarmVille will probably need to buy into the Ministry of Silly Games as well.
Terry Gilliam: You can milk the chickens on ours.
Eurogamer: That's the game I've been waiting for my whole life... Are you interested in videogames generally? Or could you not give a toss?
Terry Gilliam: [Shakes head]
Terry Jones: Well, um...
Terry Gilliam: Pfft. We have lives to lead.
Terry Jones: No, we're fascinated by videogames.
Terry Gilliam: Oh yes, we're fascinated, that's the correct answer.
Terry Jones: We just want to spread the pleasure that they can give.
Terry Gilliam: I'm amazed we even have time to talk to you because normally we'd be out there gaming away, 24 hours a day.
Terry Jones: Yeah.
Terry Gilliam: Yeah.
Eurogamer: I heard from one of the chaps making the game that you, Mr Gilliam... He used the word "anarchist". He said you wanted to break the rules of gaming and do things like 'Waste a life' instead of get an extra life, and that you wanted to tell the players at certain moments to perhaps do something else, like read a book of philosophy or learn an actual skill... Is that true?
Terry Gilliam: That's what I wanted. It's not what we've achieved, I'm afraid. So if you want to read a book you're going to have to go and buy one.
I thought the games could be much more wild like that and throw people back into the real world occasionally, so they're actually learning something, gaining something, rather than just escaping from a life on the tube. Obviously they've ignored me because they know these things won't make a penny.
Terry Jones: But if you spent your life on the tube you'd want to escape, wouldn't you?
Terry Gilliam: That's true. Luckily we have limos so we don't know about that world.
Terry Jones: Do you have a limo? Hmph...
Terry Gilliam: We're on camera.
Eurogamer: Apart from the Facebook game, obviously, you're probably best known for Monty Python...
Terry Gilliam: Really?
Eurogamer: Well, I'd never heard of it till this morning. But during my extensive research on Wikipedia I noticed that you, Mr Jones, wrote the script for Labyrinth...
Terry Jones: Yes, I did.
Eurogamer: It's one of my favourite films and I was just wondering, did you put in the script... Did it say, "David Bowie must wear these grey tights"?
Terry Jones: No, no no no. In fact I didn't want David Bowie in the film at all, actually. Well actually no, that's not true.
Terry Gilliam: That's why it didn't break the box office records, it was those tights that he wore.
Eurogamer: I dunno...
Terry Gilliam: Did you grow up with those tights as a dream?
Eurogamer: It was my first erotic experience, those tights. You two have basically shaped my whole life in so many ways.
Terry Jones: It wasn't throwing up the baby in the air?
Eurogamer: Oh that's why I'm still childless, it was terrifying. But do you think Labyrinth might make a good videogame?
Terry Jones: Actually it would, come to think of it, yeah. I mean you could have the whole thing with the hands, which was my idea, and... Yeah, could be a good idea.
Terry Gilliam: What about Munchausen or Time Bandits or any of my films?
Terry Jones: Oh, your films? Your films?
Terry Gilliam: Could they make games, Terry?
Terry Jones: No, I don't think so. No.
Eurogamer: But Monty Python is why we're here today, so looking back all those years ago, if someone had said to you, 'In 40 years' time, you're going to be doing this game that's on this computer that everyone can play...' What would you have said?
Terry Jones: Argh, I mean, I always thought it was a shame that Python would be just come and gone. In fact actually it nearly was gone, because we learned about sort of '73 I think it was, our video editor said they were going to wipe the first series.
So we smuggled the tapes out of the BBC and put them onto Phillips VCR, which is a defunct system nowadays. For about six months I thought those, in my cellar, were going to be the only evidence of Python.
Terry Gilliam: The crime wasn't necessary in the end.
Terry Jones: They didn't wipe it.
Terry Gilliam: It could have been a whole life of crime at the beginning. We could have started doing bootleg copies, we could have been rich.
Terry Jones: Well, I wouldn't have let you in on it, Terry.
Eurogamer: I'm being kicked out, so thank you ever so much. Good luck with the drugs.
The Ministry of Silly Games is due to launch early next year. To sign up for the public beta, visit MinistryOfSillyGames.com.