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Editor's blog: Darkfall aftermath

bill

12 years ago

Wellll, it's a tricky issue this. I usually give MMORPGs a few hours before deciding if they're any good because I just don't have 24 hours in the day to play games. If a game can't hook you, interest you within an hour or two, I don't see the point it continuing to waste my time on it for another few hours. Imho - games are entertainment. If it's not entertaining, I don't play it.

Of course, having to stump up a large sum of cash having been forced to wait for week because they can't sell their product properly (imo, of course) may 'encourage' the customer to 'overlook' those first wasted couple of hours/days/weeks of boredom, frustration and anger, otherwise they might feel like they've been ripped off...


im the same way, if it sucks i dont play it. Its just for a game site, they have to bite the bullet and sink time into it. its expected.its thier job. so my 20hr comment for a mmo was directed to reviewers of them. obviously, this game was a case of 'it sucks' after a 2 hr session by the reviewer. good for him, bad for those who want a thorough and bloody honest review from a video game website.

Anyways, I feel like im repeating myself at this point [made 2 other similar posts already], so gl and hope to see the next review hit up on some other issues that should have been there...such as game performance for one. What type of pc is reccomended, how crash prone is the game etc.
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bill

12 years ago

That's bullshit. When I tried Vanguard I didn't need days or weeks to cast my judgment upon it. 4-5 hours was more than enough. Then again, I'm not a journalist or game reviewer.

It's a shit game btw.


Exactly, were all entitled to our opinions, however a game reviewer is expected to put the nessacery time into a game to see what its all about...were not expected to...we buy the games, were not reviewing them. And that is the issue here. It may be a shit game, but for a game reviewer to only put 2 hrs into the game really hurts this sites credibility since its thier job to put time into it whether it sucks or not. What other games were played for 15min, or 2 hrs??

If the reviewer played it enough to know even the most basic details [which sounds like he didnt] I doubt there would be 800+ posts about this games review here.
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bill

12 years ago

To get a proper feel for a MMO, you need to play a single character for atleast 20 hrs imo, and play him to level him...and see more of the game

Problem is, there aren't any levels in this. Levels aren't "hardcore" enough.

I didnt know that. Still though, whether its 2 hrs or 9 hrs, its to little time played to call what was posted on eurogamer a 'review'. MMOs are time sinks and the first few hours dont represent a whole game at all, unlike other genres [fps's, racing game etc].

20hrs atleast of real time played and not making different characters or taking screenshots is whats needed to see the game as it is. And like I said im not a Darkfall player or fanboy but would like to see a more professional take on the game, since eurogamer usually does have good reviews that are reliable. Just expected more out of EG. hopefully the second review is done seriously unlike the first one.

just my neutral 2c on the issue !!
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bill

12 years ago

Its been about two years since i posted on Eurogamer [im in the US], but I followed a link from evilavatar.com over to here [admittedly web drama keeps me going while at work]. So im not a Darkfall employee, DF fan and I dont play DF at all...I want to make that clear first.

With that said, I DO play MMOs ALOT, its the only type of game ive played since WOW was released. And since then I have played WoW very indepth up to sunwell, then moved on to AoC...quit that after a month, then played WAR and am now playing EQ2. So as you can see, I know MMOs.

And judging by your 'rebuttal' to Darkfalls' comments saying you guys havnt played it enough...well yes, they are right. By your own admission, the reviewer played it for 9 hours [least he says he did, more likely he only played 2]. There is no way someone can completely judge/review a MMO after having played only 2 or 9 hrs, especially if he was spending the time taking screenshots and making more toons. You just cant do it.

To get a proper feel for a MMO, you need to play a single character for atleast 20 hrs imo, and play him to level him...and see more of the game. Making new characters in that time only shows you what youve already seen.

And for a review of a MMO, your site really did lose alot of credibility. As your reviewer was being paid [atleast I hope he was] for taking the time to play, and then review this game...I dont think 20 hours or more playtime is alot to have asked of him seeing as how he had a months time to play it. Thats less than a hour logged a day.

Just my 2c. Beyond that, EG reviews are usually topnotch, but fail at MMOs....So id reccomend mmorpg.com to anyone interested in Darkfall to see thier review on it.
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Non-standard media for Xbox 2?

bill

18 years ago

This wont work, since the xbox 2 will be able to read/play DvD movies all it will take is for someone to release a BIOS mod that will bypass the media detection, similar to mods already out for Xbox 1. If they truely want to deter pirates i think the only way is to go the nintendo route 100% of the way and just ditch dvd playback altogether for a propierty mini disk, this half way stuff that they are trying just wont work imo.
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Soul Calibur II unveiled

bill

19 years ago

Link owns, he just does. He fits this game like a GLOVE. The moves, the *SWORD*, the badass elf/green tights outfight makes him pure carnage. The Cube version will rock. The other ports...well first off Spawn sucks. He doesnt fit into the SC universe at all, hes futuristic, SC is not. Namco should just ditch him for a more fitting hero like Conan or Tarzan, just anything but Spawn. It also doesnt seem to dawn on Namco that Spawn has starred[!] in more piles of steaming shit than anyother comic book hero ever, and believe me, that is ALOT of shit.

Heihachi...he doesnt seem to fit well in this series either, but hes not as out of place as Spawn is. It just seems more like namco didnt have any other characters to throw in and just picked the oddest one they could find. Heihachi fits that well.

verdict- Link- Cube wins
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