Digital Foundry
Supporter Program
Get access to   exclusive content unlimited 4K videos Discord Server Retro Corner Support us on Patreon Join now

In Theory: Is Xbox 360 3D Ready?

Microsoft says "yes". Digital Foundry investigates.

While Sony and the PlayStation 3 are doing most the pioneering work in establishing stereoscopic 3D gaming, Microsoft's public approach has been to ignore this new dimension in gameplay, instead concentrating its resources and marketing on its Kinect motion control system.

"We're a fully 3D-capable console today. We support 3D games that are in the market today," Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg told VG247.

"If you look at things like Avatar and the new Batman game, and some of the titles that were announced in 3D [at E3] like Crysis 2, they're coming to Xbox 360. There's no confusion that anyone looking for a 3D gaming experience will find those same experiences on the Xbox. We're also demoing here, behind closed doors, movies in 3D running on Xbox 360. The capability is there. The question is whether or not the consumer demand is there. That's the unanswered question. We're not a consumer electronics company that's trying to sell 3DTVs, so we have the benefit of waiting until the market responds. We're going to take probably more of a pull than a push approach."

However, behind the scenes, the platform holder is beginning to take 3D gaming seriously - something that will become very apparent within the next 12 months. Third party developers are already being briefed by Microsoft on the ways and means in which the now vintage console can be made to run with the new wave of 3DTVs. While Microsoft itself may be adopting Greenberg's "pull rather than push" approach, it is at least offering support to publishers looking to support 3DTVs.

Ubisoft has been at the forefront of 3D, is upbeat about the take-up of the displays and foresees that many of its major titles will support the system. The new Shaun White and Ghost Recon titles are set to include stereoscopic 3D support.

"I do believe that Avatar allowed us just a little bit of advantage in terms of experience with how this market will work," Ubisoft UK managing director Rob Cooper told MCV.

"We are working to offer the possibility of 3D on most of our upcoming triple-A titles as we'd like to ensure that we are there for those consumers that begin putting new 3D enabled televisions in their homes."

The question is, can the Xbox 360 meet the technical standard for stereoscopic 3D set down by the HDMI 1.4 protocols, and supported by the PlayStation 3?

Real 3D - as in proper, full-on HDMI 1.4 stereoscopic 3D in the 1280x1470 twin 720p framebuffer configuration - may well be a problem for the Xbox 360. Here's where things get complicated. In terms of the basic capabilities of the Xenos GPU, the resolution should in theory be a walk in the park. Probably the closest version of the 360's graphics architecture on PC is ATI/AMD's R520 (found in the X1x00 cards), capable of a maximum resolution of 2560x1600. Even its predecessor could process 2048x1536, at 75Hz, no less.

ps3-1
ps3-2
Two full 720p stereo 3D HDMI framebuffers, culled from the PlayStation 3 versions of Super Stardust HD and WipEout HD. Two images, one per eye, transmitted at 60Hz with an overall resolution of 1280x1470. It's the standard for 720p 3D on PS3. Doubts remain as to whether the 360 can use this exact 3D format.

However, Xenos is a bespoke part made for 360 only, with its own unique properties - the 10MB daughter die of eDRAM for starters. Not only that, but all output from the GPU is routed through the HANA video processor - the chip that converts the framebuffer into HDMI, component, and legacy standard def outputs. Connect up the 360 to a DVI monitor and you can see that HANA is a pretty useful piece of kit: it's able to support just about any single-link DVI resolution - even relatively obscure ones such as 1440x900.

However, notable by its absence is 1920x1200, the de facto standard top-end resolution for single-link DVI, and utilised by a large amount of 24" LCDs, and from several of our developer sources, we've learned there's still no support for it in the current revision of the upcoming Kinect dash, nor is there implementation of the HDMI 1.4 720p stereo 3D format when a 3DTV is attached.

Quite why it is missing is a bit of a puzzle: its omission suggests that HANA has set limitations to vertical frequency, which may preclude the 1280x1470 HDMI 1.4 set-up used by the PlayStation 3. And even if it can output the resolution, there's no guarantee that HANA would be able to offer HDMI 1.4 handshakes to the 3DTV. After all, the chip was designed years before the HDMI 1.4 standard was even being considered.

Our developer sources inform us that Microsoft is now accepting that 3D will form a part of the Xbox 360's future, and is recommending either side-by-side or top-bottom approaches to the visual make-up of the 3D framebuffer. The obvious conclusion is that the games we play will be operating at half-resolution, similar to the pre-alpha version of Killzone 3 seen at E3, with the image created from two 640x720 images.

Will you support the Digital Foundry team?

Digital Foundry specialises in technical analysis of gaming hardware and software, using state-of-the-art capture systems and bespoke software to show you how well games and hardware run, visualising precisely what they're capable of. In order to show you what 4K gaming actually looks like we needed to build our own platform to supply high quality 4K video for offline viewing. So we did.

Our videos are multi-gigabyte files and we've chosen a high quality provider to ensure fast downloads. However, that bandwidth isn't free and so we charge a small monthly subscription fee of €5. We think it's a small price to pay for unlimited access to top-tier quality encodes of our content. Thank you.

Support Digital Foundry

Find out more about the benefits of our Patreon

Sometimes we include links to online retail stores. If you click on one and make a purchase we may receive a small commission. Read our policy.

Jump to comments (115)

About the author

Richard Leadbetter

Richard Leadbetter

Technology Editor, Digital Foundry  |  digitalfoundry

Rich has been a games journalist since the days of 16-bit and specialises in technical analysis. He's commonly known around Eurogamer as the Blacksmith of the Future.

Related

You may also enjoy...

Comments (115)

Comments for this article are now closed. Thanks for taking part!

Hide low-scoring comments
Order
Threading
Eurogamer.net

Buy things with globes on them

And other lovely Eurogamer merch in our official store!

Eurogamer Merch