Grand Theft Auto IV - Everyone's A Rat!

oooooh

Gah, im just not getting excited by this at all....

Whats with the fucking awful framerate in some of those scenes too?

not bad

I have to admit I liked the others better.

But I'm still very much looking forward to this game!

Grand Theft Framerate?

wowee - but one thing i've always wondered - if its set in LC does that mean that most of us will already know our way around?

Guess I'll find out in about a month - can't wait :)

Preordered and ready, hope the game disc doesn't melt.

looks alright actually

Looks great, but what the hell is that music?

Havok!

Horrible music. Err, are they going to show any gameplay or just bore us to death with cut scene montages?

It would sell millions even if it looked like total arse, so what's the point in trying to make it look super pretty?

It looked great. The only thing i'm concerned about is humour. The humour to me is 45% of a GTA game. It's probably going to have it in spades but so far it has only showed it's mean serious side.

I love it. Can't wait.

I wonder if that guy falling down the stairs was preanimated or it's their new character physics.

Looks a lot better than any ragdoll stuff in the past.

@kelly's_h

If you want to see some of the GTA humour look at the short videos, like the LCPD one. New trailer looks pretty good. Looking forward to the 29th.

Looks good to me.
FPS games are for graphics.
Only a month!

Um, I don't think a small video you stream off the internets is indicative of the final products framerate, FFS. :P

Lovely, Super, Smashing but when do we see someone controlling the character and actually playing the game rather than cut scenes, yes I know the scenes use the in game engine but I still want to see what it looks like from a players perspective.

The Liberty City in GTA IV is NOT the same Liberty City from GTA 3, this new Liberty City is based more on New York than the original.

It's like the Liberty City from GTA 1 is not the Liberty City seen in GAT 3.

Cool! Love the Shakabuku music! :D

Jack Thompson approves.

it's out of sync for me... gametrailers ho!

I'm buying two copies.

It was interesting that some of the scenes that were less-obviously cutscenes did seem to have framerate issues, like when the guy drives through the red bollards.

Doesn't mean I won't be at Gamestation at midnight for the launch though.

Poor Sean Paul sounds drunk and hung over in that song

possibly GTA 4 map: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/51933

If they cant lock this down at 30fps, then i will be gutted. anything less gives me a whacking headache!

Looks alright, I'm still uninspired by the graphics, but seeing the whole city in motion will change my mind I'm sure.

I can't understand all the hate for the graphics, I think this looks fantastic. The animation, the setting and the characters looks bloody good fun to me. I'll be playing this one to death - can't wait!

A lot of us are picking up on the fact that all they seem to show are cut scenes. I want to see how the game runs when you are wandering about the city with all the incidental people and traffic moving about you.

I know everyone is going to rush out and buy this but, something about the lack of actual gameplay has me worried that it's going to be a case of slowdown city and that reviewers are going to dismiss this simply because A) it's a GTA game and B) They have a set of blinkers on. Take the graphics for instance. They are pretty poor for a next gen game yet people are already making excuses about not needing good graphics. Strange given that most games get shouted down for not having next gen graphics. Just look at the super smash brothers thread.

Poor video really. Again, like everyone else, was kinda hoping for some actual gameplay footage. To be fair though, I like to treat these games as almost movie experiences, which I'm pretty sure how Rockstar intended it so these style of trailers are probably geared towards that. I guess a radar in the top right would district from the narrative they're trying to entice you with. After all, we've all played a GTA game so we know what its like - yeah this will have bells and whistles but it'll basically be a progression of the same. Which works.

NICE. VERY NICE.

I just did a sex wee.

"Nobody move! Get on the floor!"

Everybody walk the dinosaur?

Anyway: Cut-scene heaven, for sure, but what will the actual gameplay be like?

"Grand Theft Framerate?"

I agree... I'm worried that the finished game will look horrible and run choppy when the trailers looks so sloppy and unimpressive. And I'm sure the PS3 will be blamed for it.

If this wasn't called GTA we'd all be ripping the piss out of it for looking like an XBox game.

Not that that's going to stop me buying it of course...

Looks Good. We won't see gameplay footage until a week before release. (Rockstar tactics)

No issues with the framerate in the videos I have watched. But then they're in a proper media format from source, not a flash video on a vg website. Its like complaining YouTube has poor quality video...

You can't determine anything about the framerate of a game from a video.

A 2fps game can be videod at 60fps and vice versa. The codec has more to do with it than the game.

As TheDudesRug said, it would be the same as complaining that a games resolution is low based on a youtube vid.

looks bloody fantastic, a huge step forward from SA, and that was superb... ! It's dripping with style, and i am dripping with drool...

Hate to say, looks pretty much the same off XBox Live, so... But there are loads of bits that obviously aren't cutscenes, just like every other GTA trailer ever! That J-turn in the Pagani/Lambo, the shootout in the subway, the showcase of the physics with the dude down the stairs, even the final shot is showing off that weather-specific physical reaction thing that's been mentioned in various previews... Sure, you haven't seen from the actual gameplay view, but that is vintage Rockstar. IT. WILL. BE. AWESOME! Maybe.

How can anybody criticise the visuals? It's going to be the most expansive sandbox game ever made FFS! Not every footpath and rooftop is going to get the level of attention a hallway would have received in Gears of War. And GTA has always succeeded in a stylish austerity, interspersed with the occassional graphical triumph (pause at around 0:22 for example) .

When you're carefully crawling through traffic on a rainy night through the steamy city, you'll probably be too awestruck to notice that angular looking street lamp anyway.

Looks like they've nailed the cutscenes. That's a relief.

last couple comments pretty much sum up how i feel like about the new gta. +1 to you folks.

Meh, same old same old. The cash cow'll still do insane business of course. Got to say the radio station previews I've heard thus far were nowhere near as entertaining as 'Vice City'.

Frankly as 'Driver Parallel Lines' fucked the perfect chance to do GTA 1970, I'd have liked to have seen it done properly. I'm more stoked for 'Mafia 2', myself....

I'm just astounded people can look at the trailers and think the graphic are poor, I think they look fantastic!

All you doubters pull out your GTA 3, VC or SA and you see how far the graphics have come!

Looks awesome to me. Wish this was out next week, hurry up the 29th!

Music is shit.
The gfx are good though, not mindblowing but good.

@bad09: It's not the graphics that are putting me off, it's the deja vu. Vice City was such a joy because of many factors such as the nods to Scarface, Carlito's Way, Miami Vice (TV series not that dull movie), the voice acting etc. It's still fun to tool around on a moped with Flash FM playing!

But San Andreas just felt so much less fun - possibly due to the presence of 'DJ Pooh' in the writing team, as it seemed to switch schizophrenically between tongue-in-cheek 'CJ is patently a moron and the whole gangsta thing is for imbeciles' and the kind of 'Yo, who da man? Grove 4 life homie!' pandering that chavs adore. And don't even get me started on those goddamn missions with that radio controlled plane.

The trailers i've seen so far haven't impressed me that much.
I hope that the final product and reviews will make me buy this.