Our first look at PES 2011
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Published 13 July, 2010 Duration 5:53
Konami hits the field with a new formation.
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Better than Fifa 11? Errrrm no
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When people say they used to love pes, as in I take is pes1-6 how can you possibly say that FIFA although making massive cosmetic strides is now a better game, when PES became poo I tried to like FIFA then just moved back to a patched PES6 on the PC.
FIFA plays well for two weeks then you notice its shocking AI and exploits and it is just a chore.
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Not exactly a great trailer to show off the game, but it shows off the new features nicely. All the doubters should check out the numerous other PES11 videos out there. Even at this very early stage it's looking amazing and all the playtests are getting excellent feedback.
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I really don't see how the animation in this worse or more stilted than that in Fifa?
@HarryPalmer: The chained feints are only require L1 and a flick of R3 i.e. by having some feints set up for chaining they are far easier to perform.
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Fresh start Konami. Take the time and do what EA did with FIFA 07. It's the only way to rescue what little dignity is left for the series.
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I think there's plenty of change. 1000+ animations, new defence system, more detailed tactics, new league/teams... What else do you want from a yearly update, jetpacks?
It looks like PES is back to its best. After owning FIFA 09/10 it's never been amazing (floaty players, presentation, what seems like scripted goals, almost impossible to dribble past somebody, etc). I do like FIFA but I hope PES 11 turns out to be awesome and I can go back to having all night PES matches with my friends like the good old days.
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Still they can never top PES6, used to hear that mad techno music in my head for hours after i played.
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Hopefully a demo will clear it up.
I also think that part of the success of the skill system in Fifa is that you have to learn the moves, and be able to perform them. Just stacking them up before hand and assigning to a simple move feels kinda wrong and restrictive.
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I can still hear it!!
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What will really change the game is the ability to pass the ball anywhere. If they get that right then it will make a massive difference. Fifa gameplay wise. Still problems with players lacking real personality and the AI for defence and attack can be dodgy. Still can’t score a hefty variety of goals like you could on Pro Evo but what makes the game so different is the freedom and not feeling like your playing on rails.
If PES manage to get the feel and freedom right, then they’re on to a winner. They just seem to know more about football compared to EA and pay close attention to the small details. If they can move this game into the next gen as they should have done ages ago then we’ll see a great battle.
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Couldn't agree more! But while i "hooked up" with FIFA 10 for a months, i just want PES back , and have like it used to be
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Really hope the final game is better than that show case, that looks well out of date already
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On my own obviously.
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That. Ball still doesn't seem really free, no matter how much the PES fanboys claim it's teh best physix evah! And the animations still look like there is a bunch of robots running after the ball. I was hoping (and still am) that they manage to take the corner and kick some FIFA butt, but this doesn't look very promising.
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@HarryPalmer: Success with the skill system in Fifa? I don't see many people use them in matches and most of the time it's redundant.
@Rodchenko: How is ball any more free in Fifa? I don't see the difference.
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"All this tactical shit" happens to be a big part of the game.
PES2010 had some fantastic options to change & tweak nearly every area of your tactics & it really made a difference.
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How exactly will this system make them any more useful?
Anyway, I used to love PES, simple fact is that at the moment FIFA is better.
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I don’t think the tactics need an overhaul but it’s good to see that they keep moving it forward. I like the idea of being able to set your team up to change formation and tactics automatically depending on the circumstances. Was really disappointed with Fifa’s so called tactics. Some good ideas but it doesn’t really effect the out come of the game. Games usually turn into basketball style match with end to end action regardless of how you set your team up.
Setting your defensive line to sit deep doesn’t actually work. They always push up to the half way line. Defenders have no concept of holding their line and playing the offside trap. In Fifa 10 you see wingbacks rushing back to play an on rushing striker onside when he should hold his line. Midfield maestros like Cesc Fabregas and Xavi are pretty useless. You can pretty much bypass the midfield in Fifa. Defensive midfielders positioning can be poor and I rely mostly on pace when defending with them, I find they sometimes drift too far forwards or drop back too deep if you push the arrow back.
Tactically, PES have a better understanding of the tactical side of football where setting up your team in a specific way can make a huge difference. In Fifa, it just doesn’t make much of a difference on how you set your team up. It’s all about pace and power. PES has had the same problems with pace and power like in PES 6 but at least you could try to set up your team to cope with it and you had enough tools.
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It would be much better if we only got one new footy game (from each of Konami and EA) every 2 years, starting on one platform, and then rolled out on other platforms, one every six months, until they'd gone PS3/360/PC/Wii/PSP.
Both PES and FIFA give me the feeling of shovelware, when I see them release on every platform, every six months, which is probably why I started missing out releases; buy a footy game once every two year.
“Take a break” is good advice for Konami, but sadly they are forced to match EA's FIFA release schedule, to remain relevant. EA seem to have the FIFA license sown up for eternity; so taking a 18 month break, where they wouldn't exploiting that license is probably not an option the EA development team has.
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