Oh good. If there's one thing modern fantasy games need, it's more of a orcs vs. humans theme. Why fix what isn't broken/is horribly derivative and repetitive?
Though nothing in the article really referenced the title.
So I suppose it's all alright, apart from the summation skills of whoever writes the article titles. Reply-4
@E-ROLE I think the reason a lot of people find American Football frustrating and unappealing is that they compare it to rugby in the first place. They're really very different games.
EDIT: I didn't mean that in any patronising or disapproving sense. Each to their own and all that. Just in my head, AF is closer to full-contact armoured chess than rugby. Having said that, my head is an odd place. Reply+21
@SaintDaveUK Bitten on both cheeks. Most of the game is a long bittersweet quest to find some soothing bum lotion in a post-apocalyptic world almost devoid of gentle analgesic creams. Reply+13
@DogTheBountyHunter I'm far from being a textbook liberal. If you actually read my posts properly you would have noticed I mentioned several times that I was being halfway tongue-in-cheek, at least to begin with.
I am not liberal or PC to be cool. If I wanted to be cool I'd be abusing random people on internet forums like you, champ. Enjoy your trollfood. Reply+2
@mehely Assuming you're referring to the 9/11 and tsunami joke controversies. Not sure that is actually PC - pretty sure that even in cultures untouched by political correctness, the timing of a joke regarding a major tragedy is controversial. Not many people were whipping out Holocaust gags to large audiences in 1946, pre-political correctness. And it wasn't because they were told not to by any moral majority. It was just inappropriate and disrespectful.
This is going beyond the boundaries of actually discussing the point at hand.
Whether or not he referred to a specific person is a valid point. However, we have to currently go with what the article offers - man says there is an easy mode, calls it girlfriend mode.
I'm not up in arms about the game being casualised because (a) I think games broadening their aim to a casual audience is both inevitable and not necessarily a bad thing, and (b) unless the 'easy mode' is the only mode abailable then the game has not been casualised. Reply+1
@mehely That's a blistering assessment of my character based on some semi-humourous forum posts, champ.
Political correctness is the enemy of blind institutionalised prejudice, not comedy. It is possible to support the fundamentals of PC and mock everything it protects at the same time. Go watch some Stewart Lee stand-up.
What you say in humour to a lady of your acquaintance, or what a comic says on stage about women, is very different to what a professional industry should say to the general public about their product. Context is everything, and displays true nature and intention.
Not sure what you meant with your last point. You're right, there are people who have no idea how gaming mechanics work. People, as in any gender of your choosing. Suggesting that it is geared towards one gender is patronising. Is it worth screaming about? Probably not, as I stated in my very first post. But symptomatic instances like this build into something worth ranting about when placed together.
This is all getting a bit serious-sounding now, which detracts from me trying to be slightly tongue-in-cheek about it all. Oh well. Fuck it. I don't have anything better to do today. Reply+11
@mehely Thankyou for dragging me back in. I had missed this discussion in the 30 or so seconds I was away.
I assume you are referring to the intentionally outrageous joke meme/film. Doesn't upset me. Why would it? It's a joke, not a display of casual and ill-timed prejudice. Though that doesn't upset me either. It gets me angry. Reply+2
I need to go to the shops and make some lunch now, but this was fun. Let's do it again the next time some gaming industry worker makes a crass sexist generalisation in an interview.
Am sure we'll be waiting AGES.
Much love and peace out,
Outraged Liberal With Too Much Time On His Hands Reply+1
The pro-sexism team is alternating between calling us politically correct and Daily Mail types. Some joined-up thinking, please guys! Can't be both. Reply+12
@rolltide101x I don't recall ever mentioning that I'm not going to buy and/or love the game. I will probably do both. I am a fully realised adult, and therefore capable of divorcing the comments of one idiotic interviewee referencing an unprofessional workplace injoke from my gaming purchase habits. Reply+19
I mean, fuck's sake. Just refer to it as 'easy mode'. If you're being interviewed, think PR before you say something. At least have some semblance of professionalism.
I'm quite enjoying getting worked up about this. In a minute I might put on some evil industrial metal and lift weights while thinking about it. Reply+27
Having nearly swore myself to death trying to kill Crawmerax with mates (and finally managing it), I look forward to never trying to kill this dude. Ever. Reply+4
@RichardC LULZ etc. As long as you include a new reaction shot from Garrus.
@Nanocrystal Ooh, personal. I can do personal. You're the moron! Haaaaaaaaaaaa. But really. My argument had nothing to do with whether one should criticise a company's product. As indicated by the bit you quoted, I am saying as a company they owe you nothing. They make something. You buy it. Any notion of loyalty or betrayal is purely a figment of the imagination. I mentioned nothing about lowering expectations, sucking up shit (yikes) or being grateful for it. Criticise away, please. I just balk at the notion of a subjective "three strikes and then you're out" being touted as some kind of official stance between company and consumer. It's a subjective statement, made to sound objective and professional in the article. The 'Dragon Age 2 debacle' and 'Mass Effect 3 ending shitstorm' is mostly a construction of internet gaming forums. Only one thing will determine whether Bioware shift their current development trajectory, and that is whether people buy their future releases. That isn't as dependent on the hardcore gaming public as you might think, and is also pretty unrelated to the their opinions of DA2 and ME3. Reply-6
Blizzard uses Mists of Pandaria to take Warcraft back to its Orcs versus Humans roots
Though nothing in the article really referenced the title.
So I suppose it's all alright, apart from the summation skills of whoever writes the article titles. Reply -4
Madden NFL 13 Review
EDIT: I didn't mean that in any patronising or disapproving sense. Each to their own and all that. Just in my head, AF is closer to full-contact armoured chess than rugby. Having said that, my head is an odd place. Reply +21
Marvel Heroes dev stands by Diablo 1 and 2 creator David Brevik after Diablo 3 designer says: "f*** that loser"
Sounds like they need to man the fuck up. Reply +80
Dragon Age 3 survey leaks Inquisitor-hero story, and art
While I'll probably play it anyway due to completionist fever, agreed on both counts. Reply -1
New The Last of Us trailer portrays its lead in a different light
Diablo 3 Starter Edition is now available on Battle.net
Borderlands 2: Gearbox reveals the Mechromancer's "girlfriend mode"
I am not liberal or PC to be cool. If I wanted to be cool I'd be abusing random people on internet forums like you, champ. Enjoy your trollfood. Reply +2
Shops. Lunch. Both more important things than Borderlands 2 skilltrees. Reply 0
This is going beyond the boundaries of actually discussing the point at hand.
Whether or not he referred to a specific person is a valid point. However, we have to currently go with what the article offers - man says there is an easy mode, calls it girlfriend mode.
I'm not up in arms about the game being casualised because (a) I think games broadening their aim to a casual audience is both inevitable and not necessarily a bad thing, and (b) unless the 'easy mode' is the only mode abailable then the game has not been casualised. Reply +1
Political correctness is the enemy of blind institutionalised prejudice, not comedy. It is possible to support the fundamentals of PC and mock everything it protects at the same time. Go watch some Stewart Lee stand-up.
What you say in humour to a lady of your acquaintance, or what a comic says on stage about women, is very different to what a professional industry should say to the general public about their product. Context is everything, and displays true nature and intention.
Not sure what you meant with your last point. You're right, there are people who have no idea how gaming mechanics work. People, as in any gender of your choosing. Suggesting that it is geared towards one gender is patronising. Is it worth screaming about? Probably not, as I stated in my very first post. But symptomatic instances like this build into something worth ranting about when placed together.
This is all getting a bit serious-sounding now, which detracts from me trying to be slightly tongue-in-cheek about it all. Oh well. Fuck it. I don't have anything better to do today. Reply +11
EAT MY LIBERAL LITERARY PRETENTIONS, MOFOS. Reply +2
I assume you are referring to the intentionally outrageous joke meme/film. Doesn't upset me. Why would it? It's a joke, not a display of casual and ill-timed prejudice. Though that doesn't upset me either. It gets me angry. Reply +2
Am sure we'll be waiting AGES.
Much love and peace out,
Outraged Liberal With Too Much Time On His Hands Reply +1
It is labelling it 'girlfriend mode'. Reply +13
I'm quite enjoying getting worked up about this. In a minute I might put on some evil industrial metal and lift weights while thinking about it. Reply +27
Seriously. Fuck's sake. Have no problem with the sound of the skill tree, but referring to it as 'girlfriend mode' in interview is pretty obnoxious.
2 out of 3 of the top Cheevo scorers on my Xbox Live friends list are female. One of them topped the MW3 multiplayer charts for a while.
This really isn't worth me getting wound up over, but I do like a good bitter rage on a Monday morning. Reply +41
Fewer players finished Mass Effect 3 than completed Mass Effect 2
Co-op the key to Dead Island's success, 6500 years of playtime logged online
Why Gearbox created a Borderlands 2 boss so tough it's nearly Invincible
Mass Effect 3: The Extended Cut: A Happy Ending?
@Nanocrystal Ooh, personal. I can do personal. You're the moron! Haaaaaaaaaaaa. But really. My argument had nothing to do with whether one should criticise a company's product. As indicated by the bit you quoted, I am saying as a company they owe you nothing. They make something. You buy it. Any notion of loyalty or betrayal is purely a figment of the imagination. I mentioned nothing about lowering expectations, sucking up shit (yikes) or being grateful for it. Criticise away, please. I just balk at the notion of a subjective "three strikes and then you're out" being touted as some kind of official stance between company and consumer. It's a subjective statement, made to sound objective and professional in the article. The 'Dragon Age 2 debacle' and 'Mass Effect 3 ending shitstorm' is mostly a construction of internet gaming forums. Only one thing will determine whether Bioware shift their current development trajectory, and that is whether people buy their future releases. That isn't as dependent on the hardcore gaming public as you might think, and is also pretty unrelated to the their opinions of DA2 and ME3. Reply -6