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As Valve confirms the Steam Box, Microsoft's Phil Harrison issues a warning
It was going to be last year but they extended it. Again (I think..? I can't remember. Been a while since I've supported XP and I've moved into web hosting now).
I can see what your saying and can see why there is that worry but look at it this way - why have a tablet, phone and desktop OS? They've merged tablet and desktop which means they only really have two OSs to support now so it makes sense in that way to work they way they have.
I think Valve have seen something they can exploit (as well as Apple etc) to create FUD about it then come in with the angle of "Look at our nice new system which gets you out of the horrible MS lock in"....but locks you into the same thing with them when on the desktop no such lock-in exists.
MS corporate products with GPOs, Active Directory and such are more accessible and have more functionality than Linux. And every system has their flaws and unless you secure Linux properly it's just as bad as MS Server.
You seem to mistake me for an MS fan boi when I work with Debian and MS Server. The most secure and efficient system by far is still the iSeries (NOT an Apple product...AS400 systems) which is far more stable than both by a country mile. But hey. What do I know.
And is it MS fault that the accounts package has labelled itself compatible and it's not? Sounds like a developer problem really does it not? If you know IT I'm sure you'd realise this and report it as a bug to the dev.
Linux server can be an obtuse system and has a steep learning curve. I've seen problems with memory leaks and servers that seem to kernal panic for almost no reason. It's great when used for the right thing and I do love it but the Linux alts to things like MSSQL and such are nowhere near as good - again with SQL 2012 MS has raised the bar once again and it's a really good system.
I know what you mean but I think MS would not split Home and Pro like that - Many people us their home system for working from home and such and need third party VPNs.
XP is looking very very old in the tooth now and people are really ditching quick it to get to Win7 as it work great (and the new features in GPOs and server and top notch). I think the support and updates stop this year so companies are migrating en mass now as the costs to continue to get support are HUGE!! And I mean huge (and rightly so for supporting a system that donkeys years old).
Having played a little with Server 2012 it's plain incredible. The best server OS I've used for many a year. Also Win8 in the Enterprise could be quite incredible. The reporting functions and such build into Metro are again amazing. You're not likely to see many companies jumping on it yet (a few have) but already myself and a couple of others are my place are looking to upgrade to it as the potential of it is good. Very very good! I think it'll take the usual 1-2 years before people start to deploy it fully but you always get stragglers. The pain of going from XP to Vista and above was massive due to the massive changes. Going from Vista/7 to 8 is much much easier so I think people will adopt it quicker.
I may be wrong!!
I don't think MS want to create a closed Ecosystem for the desktop. The app store in Win8 is only for Metro apps only so it'll not affect Steam etc for a long time. Most of the stuff of there is tablet anyway - and I think that's where they are looking to close the OS - not the desktop as shown by RT vs Home/Pro etc. The division has already been made but it just seems people don't want to see this.
What is this direction MS are taking Windows? If they close the platform it would destroy how it's used in the Enterprise. Is this more FUD served up by other companies?
They've split the OS to tablet and desktop as far as I can see (RT works the same way as the iPad and Kindle HD work) but the Pro upwards would have to stay open due to the way it's used in business (bespoke in house developed apps etc) and also due to the way the entire corporate products work. I can't see them closing the Server range and Desktop products to third parties. It would be commercial suicide. Also with the Server range they've made some real big steps forward (2012 has a no GUI mode where it works like Linux server and is pretty lean and fast!).
Also with having an app store built in doesn't stop people installing their own apps. It doesn't make people buy them much the same as Mac OS - you can still install your own applications yet Apple don't get half the bile that MS does for doing this.
I just don't see where people are getting the idea where MS are going to lock down Windows - it would pretty much destroy the OS if they did that and I'm sure they realise it.
I still have trouble seeing where the SteamBox will sit and, if it is Linux, how it will run a lot of games. Emulation of Windows drivers and such or are they expecting companies to port games to Linux?
PC gamers will still get PCs and since HDTVs are nearly as good as monitors more and more people are hooking their rigs up to PCs anyway (like myself). Unless console gamers flood on mass to the Steambox then they'll stay with the brand they know - people choose the platform that the people they play online with play.
I did like Valve a lot but Gabe's latest FUD about Windows 8 really took him down a lot in my estimation. It was a really, really poor trick. Any man who works in the tech industry who finds Win8 unusable is a moron frankly. Or a liar.
The Steam platform as well is really not that amazing either - the constant midnight service outages are really annoying (in the UK) and happen far too often and for far too long (15-30mins) and disrupt online gaming far too much. They need to sort their shit out before trying to jump into the hardware market I think.
Also what Phil Harrison said is quite true. Sega have crashed and burned, MS and Sony both have had to sell hardware at a loss and Nintendo got burned in the days of the N64 and Gamecube and had the Wii been a flop they would've probably bowed out of the race as well. I can't think of one new console that has come close to breaking in on the action in many, many years.
Was Gabe Newell right to declare Windows 8 a catastrophe?
I would recommend any one get an SSD as they are pretty cheap. I've now got three in my system!
Booting and loading games from an SSD is very quick. Very very quick. I think my BIOS takes longer to sort itself out than Win8 takes to load.
Well done. You're now part of the 1%.
I think it's probably more that you might be doing it wrong. I mean. The desktop view is oh so different from Win7, isn't it? It must be very difficult to press win+D to get to the desktop if you happen to get lost in the metro interface...
All they have really done is tuned the OS to fook and added the Metro screen instead of the Start menu.
The only un-intuitive that I've found is that you can't click and drag the metro menus.
The other thing is that sometimes the window focus seems to get lost.
That's about it.
Embrace change. Don't fight. Everything changes. I'm sure when you grow up you'll understand that.
Most people how seem to have it in for Windows 8 have not even tried it.
Closed system? I don't think MS would ever be that stupid. Why would they take away the flexibility which has helped the Windows platform thrive?? Why not add the Marketplace for metro apps and us gamers can still use all our games and steam and everything else.
The Metro interface is actually good and works better than cluttered start menu's. It's slicker and quicker than 7. Live tiles also work great as well and I find then really useful. Hit the windows key and you can scan latest headlines, emails, facebook, tweets...all on one screen. Fantastic! I've not found one thing that can't run on it and and I've installed everything that I've had on my Win7 install. Since installing it (which was more for curiosity) I've booted back into Win7 once. And once I back up the data on the drive it's on I'll wipe it and have another SSD for storage.
People saying Linux is the answer...really? The last version of Unbuntu that came out pretty much breaks often and sometimes on start up you have to remount your drives manually from the command line. Which is not really newbie friendly. Linux is GREAT as a server OS. But it's too fragmented and not 'good' enough yet as an easy to use desktop OS. Yet? I doubt it ever will be. But again as a server it's a fantastic OS.
I really don't get all this FUD and hate about Windows 8. It's quite amusing seeing wannabe geeks throwing their toys out of their pram about an OS that they've not even used. 99% of everyone I've spoken to who's moved onto 8 has only had positives things to say. And their opinion is more valid that half the people spewing forth their bile on her as they've bothered to try out something new instead of crying over a missing start menu or change in general.
As for saying XP>>>>>>all....XP was good at the time. Windows 7 is better is so so many ways on so many levels. So far I'm liking Win8 as much if not more than Win7.
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