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  • We cannot let this become gaming culture

  • jabberwoky 18/10/2014

    @MDL199

    "As thing's stand I don't feel that the majority of games journalists are on the same side as the gamers and it wasn't until some of the ridiculous articles recently written by former Ed Tom Bramwell that I realized this. I guess I should grudgingly thank him for that at least. Seeing his contempt and deliberate misrepresentation of opposing views really angered me as did seeing him mock and show complete disdain for his readership on social media with like minded individuals."

    I think that echoes my feelings about Eurogamer, until those articles showed up it was just a good games site with no negative connotations. Then the poison set it and I was quite frankly relieved when he went.

    Now we get this, and its in some ways as bad, or worse. Because its so nakedly and aggressively biased.

    Fortunately people tend to look at the comments under articles and there are more than sufficient there to expose it for the travesty it is. And in doing so, Eurogamer and its journalists are tarnished, however many congratulations they get from their peers.

    People are not stupid, if something is mindbendingly one sided, it shows.
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  • jabberwoky 17/10/2014

    @Trikk

    "I urge everyone here to at least remove EG from your adblocker whitelists, but the best course of action is complaining to their sponsors and advertisers."

    This and the creation of alternative sites is going to take a long time, but the writing is on the wall for gaming sites who think they can insult gamers without consequences.
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  • jabberwoky 17/10/2014

    @MrTomFTW

    I think he may have been talking to me and got a bit mixed up :)

    Still confused, but whatever. Its probably you making my head hurt with all those words!
    Reply +3
  • jabberwoky 17/10/2014

    @falcond.stormvoice

    If you go far enough back you will see that the word baddy came from Tom, I was quoting him in my responses, although I may have left a quotation mark out. As for the rest of your query, I simply don't understand it, and certainly don't recognize any mockery on my part about possible alleged terrorists.
    Reply +2
  • jabberwoky 17/10/2014

    @MrTomFTW

    "Because you literally say one out of hundreds of thousands."

    Please go to the dictionary and read up on the word "context". It will help you in life.
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  • jabberwoky 17/10/2014

    @MrTomFTW

    "I don't need to put words in your mouth. I shall quote you directly.

    One terrorist. Alleged. Out of hundreds of thousands of people who signed up to gamergate and notmyshield, most of whom probably rescue spiders from the bath.

    There you are, in your own words saying there's one baddy (sorry, alleged baddy) amongst the thousands of upstanding GG members.

    I fail to see how my quote above is the same as saying there is only one baddy in the whole of gamergate, especially when my context was clearly whether that terrorist invalidated the whole movement or not.

    You are either trying to be funny or you are thick.
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  • jabberwoky 17/10/2014

    @MrTomFTW

    I was referring to the terrorist in question and his alleged link to gamergate. I did not at any point say he was the only person (assuming that alleged link is true) in gamergate who did negative things.

    Don't put words in my mouth please.

    Both sides have done negative things. You have only quoted in all your posts the ones from gamergate. That is a statement of fact. Its also called Bias and Mis - representation.
    Reply +2
  • jabberwoky 17/10/2014

    @MrTomFTW

    Nope. still don't get what the hell you are on about. Seriously, its incoherent. I'm not trying to be funny. Are you saying there are lots of terrorists to be added to the alleged one? But wouldn't they be alleged ones too unless you have some proof in which case go to the police. What has the alleged terrorist I was specifically referring to got to do with all the others on both sides flinging mud and making threats? Of course I stand by my post, you have always been selective, in which ones out of both sides of the debate you have highlighted. You are about as biased as its possible to be.
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  • jabberwoky 17/10/2014

    @MrTomFTW

    "Now just yesterday you were having a go at me for throwing "all the filth I could find" about GamerGate.

    Now it's just one terrorist amongst a crowd of innocent people who wouldn't even hurt a spider? Make up your mind - one or lots, which is it?"

    I'm sorry, I don't have a clue what the hell you are on about.
    Reply +7
  • jabberwoky 17/10/2014

    @morriss

    "You're either with the journalists, or you're with the terrorists. Scary rhetoric."

    One terrorist. Alleged. Out of hundreds of thousands of people who signed up to gamergate and notmyshield, most of whom probably rescue spiders from the bath. Not quite so scary now we have put the FACTS in there. Why couldn't you have figured this without me pointing it out. Its not hard, my dog could do it.
    Reply -1
  • jabberwoky 17/10/2014

    @Bertie

    "Having the power to publish an article to a wide audience comes with the appropriate responsibility of doing so, and all the consideration and discussion that happens behind the scenes before something is published, because we know we'll be held accountable when it's seen."

    Then if that is the case, why has that responsibility been abused? Where has all that balanced discussion gone? Your coverage of gamergate has been unbalanced and unrepresentative, quite shockingly so.

    Because if I were to go on the internet and have a good look for myself, it would be self evident that the article is hoplessly one sided, quite apart from the ludicrous idea that the actions of one lunatic ALLEGEDLY linked to it should result in the whole movement vanishing.

    And I candidly invite everyone to do that excercise, go on the internet, dig around, re-read and see the bias for yourselves.

    The hundreds of thousands of gamesplayer who supported gamergate and notmyshield have no platform, the media they are up against have all the space they could dream of. I hope you are proud of yourselves Eurogamer.

    Call yourselves journalists, arn't they supposed to investigate BOTH sides of the issue?
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  • jabberwoky 17/10/2014

    Eurogamer says Gamergate "has now forfeited its right to be considered a true campaign, a true movement."

    Because of one incident/person who has made the front pages and who is allegedly linked to gamergate? An article that refuses to have any balance in it whatsoever when talking about censorship and harrassment which from any impartial search on the internet comes from both sides?

    You can see the problem here, can't you. Those in the media have full access to games sites and can write what they want knowing it will be widely seen. But most of the ordinary supporters of gamergate have no such platform.

    They have been censored, misrepresented on an industrial scale and now EG has joined in. You want truth, balance and fair representation. Don't come here for it, go on the internet and find out for yourselves.
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  • Destiny launch almost triples monthly US PlayStation 4 sales

  • jabberwoky 17/10/2014

    I was one of those squillions of PS4 Destiny bundle buyers. Great machine, destiny was a great demo for what it could do but after 6 weeks I'm done with it. Reply -1
  • E3 organiser and trade group ESA speaks out against GamerGate

  • jabberwoky 16/10/2014

    @MrTomFTW

    Fair enough. Enjoy your highly selective filth throwing then.
    Reply -1
  • jabberwoky 16/10/2014

    @MrTomFTW

    "I have used many, many, MANY examples of people within GamerGate being bad (to various degrees) over the last few weeks."

    Yes. We. know. Ad nauseum. And not one example of people being bad on the other side of the arguement.

    Well here's an example. You. For being utterly biased and hurling as much filth around as you can get your hands on.
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  • jabberwoky 16/10/2014

    @dirtysteve

    The reason they are desperately trying to pin the actions of a lunatic on the hundreds and thousands of gamesplayers supporting gamergate is because its a powerful movement and they are scared of it. There is no need to blink, because the idea is ludicrous. And you think you will get a fair hearing outside it? Seriously?
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  • jabberwoky 16/10/2014

    @Oli

    "it's just that we should seek to present the facts neutrally in our news reporting."

    The gaming community is split on this. When I see news reporting which addresses the concerns of gamergate as well as the concerns of those opposed to it, I will believe you.
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  • jabberwoky 16/10/2014

    @Kalain

    "So, since this is all pretty one sided, are EG going to interview those on the "Pro-gamergate" side about the death threats, harassment and Doxxing they have received? Or are EG just going to bury their head in the sand and sing from the same sheet as other sites?

    What happened to journalists actually being journalists and looking into both sides?"

    Eurogamer is utterly biased in its reporting of gamergate, seriously any impartial person go check the issues for yourselves. The very games sites and journalists in the firing line of gamergate are hardly going to do anything but mis-represent and stick the boot in at every possible opportunity. If you want facts and balance, go check it out for yourselves. As for the mods on Eurogamer foaming at the mouth in their zeal to villify the movement, its embarrassing. Does Eurogamer now represent all videogamers with this bias? Clearly not.

    Its really simple. There are hundreds of thousands of games players who support it, many are women. Are they all terrorists? Are they all mysoginists? Do they all hate women? Can you pin the actions of a few on all of them? Should gamergate vanish because of a nutcase?
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  • Hyrule Warriors horse DLC now available

  • jabberwoky 16/10/2014

    When I tried changing my cross hair in killzone shadowfall I was directed to Playstation store.

    Which contrasts sadly with another FPS from the old days which gave you a choice of about 25.

    This and the bugged state of games on release making gamers game testers make me wish games consoles were free of the internet sometimes because games companies quite simply abuse it.
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  • Assassin's Creed: Rogue is more than the cash-grab it could have been

  • jabberwoky 16/10/2014

    ""Assassin's Creed: Rogue is more than the cash-grab it could have been".

    Odd title. Its the sort of title I could imagine Ubisoft running for their press release, trying to allay gamers concerns. It also does not, in the main body of the article, really explain why its not a cash grab, indeed it adds to the concern when talking about the lack of story.

    I mean, its a good general preview, don't get me wrong. But the title?
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  • Anita Sarkeesian cancels university speech following school shooting threat

  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @dogmanstaruk

    "I eyed up a woman earlier today.

    Does this make me a bad person?"

    Shocked silence.

    Is......is he allowed to say that?
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  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @Retroid

    "Then rebut anything there which isn't factual. I've yet to see anyone do so without resorting to inferring things, casting doubt & near conspiracy-theory. I would honestly love to see anything properly shot down."

    You have cherry picked a whole load of facts out of the myriad that are openly available to anyone doing an impartial search on the internet. And out of all those facts, all yours discredit gamergate, not one of your facts has anything positive to say about it. You are totally, utterly biased, and you are deliberately trying to mislead people into viewing gamersgate in a negative way.

    I repeat my advice to anyone who wants to be informed, research yourself, make your own conclusions.
    Reply -4
  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @extravagantnonsense

    "unless you can offer alternatives you have, well, lost."

    No, I have made my position clear, I will not link things I have cherry picked like you. I am confident enough to advise people to look for themselves and reach their own conclusions. And if you really have tried, then I can only conclude you have not tried very hard.

    To answer your other question, I do not believe zoe quinn slept with a journalist for a favourable review of her game because I was not in the bedroom at the time and my mindreading skills are quite shockingly poor.

    And I don't care if she sleeps with a martian rabbit called Dennis, who she sleeps with is her affair.

    Of course, that does not mean she didn't. Just a thought, isn't that why these "disclosure" jobbies are so important?
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  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @mega-gazz

    "They are not gamers and they do not represent gamers. They are just screwed up people who have serious issues."

    No! They are living proof that hundreds of thousands of gamesplayers in gamersgate hate women including all the women in it, (somehow I know its a little thin but anyway). Gamersgate should immediately shut down and go home.

    How can you not see that?
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  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @extravagantnonsense

    I would rather be "pitiful" than try to pedal a one sided view of a topic by being highly selective of the facts. Because that is deceit.
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  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @SpaceMidget75

    Your link pretty much destroys the pathetic arguements we have had the misfortune to have pedalled to us in this thread.

    I suggest people check it out.
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  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @Yossarian

    "If you care deeply about some of the "issues" raised by #GamerGate about media bias and accountability, then start up a separate movement that specifically addresses those things without all the toxic baggage."

    That would cut into my skyrim time, sorry.

    "if you scratch at the vaunted cause even a little, it stinks. Top to bottom. And everyone knows it."

    Well, to be a tad more accurate, you know it.
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  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @extravagantnonsense

    "and you do understand that your general attitude and demeanour isn't helpful, don't you?"

    Downright annoying I would have thought. I mean, when a highly selective list of facts are pulled off the internet in order to fulfill an agenda is exposed that would be really irritating, I can see that.
    Reply -4
  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @extravagantnonsense

    Gosh, you have seen all that have you. A wide non biased impartial study of the whole business no doubt.

    Well then, case close. Extravagantnonsense (perhaps unfortunately named given these sweeping conclusions) has sorted everything out.
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  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @Yossarian

    "If nothing else, #GamerGate has served as an incredibly efficient mechanism for finding out who on Eurogamer (and other gaming sites) is either deeply confused or actively hateful about the role and status of women."

    Yes. Yes I can see that. For someone with the intellect of a gnat I could quite see that. For everyone else, suggesting hundreds of thousands of people who play games are automatically so because they supported gamergate its not actually that efficient.
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  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @extravagantnonsense

    "it wouldn't be hard, would it, to disassociate yourself from this, for the good of journalistic ethics, and rid yourselves of any negative associations?"

    Pin the actions of a lunatic on several hundred thousand gameplayers and then insist they abandon their movement. Nice game plan but its actually as dumb and stupid as it sounds.

    As for insisiting that someone comes along and presents arguements to persuade you, why don't you stand on your hind legs and find out for yourself, the internet is big enough.

    Even if someone did present a list that was opposite to Retroids, it would mean they were probably just as biased as he is. Go find out for yourself.
    Reply +2
  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @Retroid

    OK, you don't work for EG. And I accept you should be able to voice your opinion, after all you are working unpaid. But some kind of disclaimer might be appropriate because it gives the impression thats EG's views as well, especially when mysteriously every mod seems to have the same view.

    As for facts being facts, you could probably make nazi germany look good if you were selective enough in your reporting, that arguement does not stand!

    As for my facts as I said I am confident enough to be able to suggest people check things out for themselves.
    Reply -3
  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @Retroid

    Very impressive list. Unfortunately an equally impressive list could be found that supported the movement of Gamergate, but its unlikely that Eurogamer or any of its mods will balance the arguements of both sides and even attempt some kind of neutrality.

    So I suggest that instead of taking anything on board written by Eurogamer, and its mods, (is there any difference?) that people wanting an impartial view look on the internet themselves and make their own conclusions and judgements.
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  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @lancashirered

    @MrTomFTW "By blaming a hashtag not the individuals you've effectively tarred us all with the same brush (again). I simply don't understand why you're not seeing that?"

    There is no mystery. Its what extremists do. Blanket everybody. Pin what one person does on everybody to discredit the movement. Then refuse to see how irrational it is. He is on crusade, if that means twisting the facts so be it.
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  • jabberwoky 15/10/2014

    @MrTomFTW

    "Also bad: The people going "Oh where's the proof it was GamerGate?"

    It's an attempt to discredit the victim and legitimise the cause of those making the threats."

    Whoever is responsible for this is not fit to live in human society and should be put away, and anyone on the end of their sick agenda should be supported.

    But are you suggesting here that anyone who questions whether this was gamergate (a movement comprising hundreds of thousands of people who play videogames) will be banned? Does that questioning really mean they are automatically legitimising these nutcases?

    Why don't you think about what you write now and then, and it doesn't come across well when you are a mod for eurogamer.
    Reply +3
  • Why Ajay Ghale isn't the real star of Far Cry 4

  • jabberwoky 14/10/2014

    "To all intents and purposes, the core gameplay loop of Far Cry 4 is very similar to that of 3."

    No, really? How about that. Who'd have thought it....
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  • Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel review

  • jabberwoky 14/10/2014

    "Too big for DLC yet not different enough for a sequel, think of it as a familiar snack served up too soon after an enormous buffet."

    Thought this would be the case. I wasn't too sure the gravity angle would be something I wanted and this suggests it isn't.

    All in all there is so much content in B1 and 2 and DLC that B3 has to do some serious new stuff to stay in the frame.
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  • Bayonetta 2 review

  • jabberwoky 13/10/2014

    Congratulations to Wii U owners on landing a triple A game.

    Its a console that I think a lot of people will pick up eventually.
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  • DriveClub dev "had confidence" servers would work

  • jabberwoky 13/10/2014

    First its delayed for a year. Then it gets lousy reviews. Then its an unplayable mess online which is somewhat unfortunate given its emphasis on online gameplay.

    I mean, I wasn't pumped for it myself, but if you were....what a fiasco. Just what kind of circus are they running there?
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  • The fans who would fix Tomb Raider's most broken adventure

  • jabberwoky 12/10/2014

    @FrozenHarlequin

    Well that was quite informative, I had no idea all this happened. As a TR fan it also makes me very sad. I really wish Core Design had been able to carry on with the series, they made 3 incredible games and I don't like the way TR has gone since, despite having a bit of a soft spot for legend and its successor.
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  • jabberwoky 12/10/2014

    Loved TR but this one I missed because the reviews were so awful. Its a tragedy that it didn't get the time it needed to finish it. Watched a bit of LP, which enabled me to appreciate it without the frustration.

    Anyway good luck to this guy.
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  • Dragon Age: Inquisition is 1080p on PS4, 900p on Xbox One

  • jabberwoky 11/10/2014

    The 360 was a wonderful machine, a real gamers piece of kit. And microsoft were a key part of my gaming memories for 8 years.

    I blame the "visionaries" within microsoft for the utter mess that their successor has turned into, a drm and online dependant underpowered mess. OK they got rid of the first two, but what can they do about the last?
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  • What the hell is Gamechurch?

  • jabberwoky 10/10/2014

    "The Bible tells us that all who call upon the Name of the Lord will be saved."

    Oh really?

    I think it also tells us something about stoning women to death for adultery, and burning people who don't toe the line in fire for eternity. And then you get the archbishop of canterbury prancing around in finery making a living out of this gobbledigook, crowning the monarch and being reported in the press every time he opens his mouth. Anyone would think we were still living in the middle ages.
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  • Solo Dragon Age: Inquisition has ~200 hours of content

  • jabberwoky 10/10/2014

    @thevillagedrunk

    What we have here is a failure to communicate. Probably on my part. I meant you could have lots of content that was good, as in Skyrim. I think I had better amend my post!
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  • jabberwoky 10/10/2014

    @Eldritch

    "The problem is that quantity is not quality, and I'd rather spend 10 enjoyable and engaging hours with a game than 150 autopilot shovel quest hours.

    I think there is also an option called 150 enjoyable and engaging hours and quantity need not automatically mean bland. Skyrim proves this is possible.
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  • jabberwoky 10/10/2014

    @Kysen

    "150hrs of minimap hunting (see ass creed series) icons everywhere and all menial tasks used to pad the game."

    Fortunately I think they will go for skyrims model and their own rather than ubisofts automated junk content.
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  • Ubisoft hits back at Assassin's Creed: Unity downgrade claims

  • jabberwoky 10/10/2014

    If you own a PS4 and you don't want to see this become the norm for this generation, boycott Assasins Creed.

    Its the only language they know, the language spoken by your wallet.

    As for their spiel, it does not add up. Even my dog can see that. They must think people are stupid.
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  • Total War: Rome 2 re-review

  • jabberwoky 09/10/2014

    If it still has these bugs, and if they were even worse when it was reviewed, can someone please explain to me how the hell its on 7 out of 10.

    Actually, don't bother. Just another example of how games companies are let off the hook by games reviewers.
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  • Battlefield 4 Premium Edition out later this month

  • jabberwoky 09/10/2014

    Been tempted to try battlefield out. This excessive milking has put me pretty comprehensively off.

    There is a lot of choice out there for my gaming time, I don't need this.
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  • Shadow of Mordor is wise to focus on the baddies

  • jabberwoky 08/10/2014

    It sounds as if they have built the game round what it would be like to be an undead ranger, a simulation with gameplay around that. Watchdogs is just the usual template of a loose background story which gives them the excuse to pile minigames all over the map, to the point where you start to say, "why exactly am I racing round these streets in under 3 minutes" over and over again. Reply 0