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  • The worst games I've ever played, by Ellie Gibson

  • frazzl 29/08/2014

    Best of luck with your future endeavors Ellie. I also reckon you should have included Candy Crush in the above list ;). Reply 0
  • PlayStation Network returns online following DDOS attack

  • frazzl 29/08/2014

    @man.the.king It really is sad how partisan some gamers can be... Reply +2
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @CynicalMe3 Hahaha! Reply +1
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @CynicalMe3 He called me a Sony fanboy! I think Eurogamer should give me an award for simultaneously being a MS and a Sony fanboy ;). Now to get the Nintendo label and I've caught them all :cool: Reply +2
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Armor-Ritsuko I have been called many things here but never a Sony fanboy. LOL indeed! Alright I'll take the bait:

    My XBL gamertag is Frazzl. Ditto for my PSN handle. Check my achievements/trophies. Now what are your gaming details? Or do you not put your money where your mouth is!
    Reply +2
  • frazzl 27/08/2014

    @alexcross You can't prevent assholes spoiling people's fun. Unfortunately... Reply +2
  • frazzl 27/08/2014

    @alexcross As someone mentioned before, a DDoS attack is not hacking. And most services would be vulnerable to such an attack. This really has nothing to do with PSN being less secure than XBL. Reply +2
  • frazzl 27/08/2014

    @Armor-Ritsuko He does actually. I have him on my XBL and PSN friends list! Reply +1
  • frazzl 26/08/2014

    @alexcross Dude, what has this got to do with Sony vs. MS? A bunch of fuckwits decided to take down PSN first. That doesn't mean XBL is more secure. It just means they were chosen later. We should all be annoyed at the assholes who decided they had nothing better to do than bother gamers. Reply +4
  • frazzl 26/08/2014

    @man.the.king Hehehe :) Reply +3
  • frazzl 26/08/2014

    @Mr-Writer That's twice in a couple of weeks we have agreed with each other. What has the world come to?! Reply +2
  • frazzl 26/08/2014

    @man.the.king Engaging in some deflection? ;) Reply 0
  • frazzl 26/08/2014

    How the hell did this become a fanboy squabble? I hope the assholes responsible get busted quick! Reply +7
  • Leading creators back latest Tropes vs Women video

  • frazzl 29/08/2014

    @Rodimus-Prime Perhaps that was not the best example. But her message is still on point I reckon. Reply -1
  • frazzl 29/08/2014

    @grassyknoll This is a rare occasion; we're in perfect agreement! Reply +1
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @TelexStar I guess. I agree it is stupid. I like the Hitman games. I enjoyed Watch Dogs. As Anita states more than once, you can be critical about the things you enjoy. Reply +4
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Great_Googly_Moogly It puzzles me as well. Why all the anger and denial? What exactly is she threatening to deserve this hostility? Wouldn't addressing the issues she highlights improve gaming for all gamers? Ah well... Reply +1
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Softie2k Sadly I doubt it. The negative response you get from gamers when you mention Anita reflects just how much of a problem this is.

    As a summary of my position:

    I have been a gamer a long time. I don't see why improving how women are represented in video games would be a negative for anyone. In fact it would lead to more more narrative scenarios that we as gamers could benefit from. There is no threat to fight against, which is honestly the vibe I get from some people posting here.

    Secondly it is a fact that women are poorly represented in games. This is undeniable. Just as it is undeniable that they are heavily under-represented in important roles or as player characters. It is also undeniable that they over-represent as sources of titillation for gamers. All this supports the need for a series like the one Anita has provided. So again why all the hate?

    She is simply highlighting a real issue in gaming. Nothing more. She has never claimed to be tackling all gaming related issues. So yes her arguments will naturally be slanted to supporting her thesis. But as I said before this is to be expected. You want some other game related issue to be addressed and talked about, well do what she did and make your own videos. If they are good I'll be a happy watcher!
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  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Avaloner
    There is a principle in movie making called "the willing suspension of disbelief," in which moviegoers can accept a certain level of implausibility in favor of the story.
    Are you suggesting improving the way women are represented in games would some how make it difficult for gamers to suspend their disbelief? That the tawdry depiction of sexual violence against women in games in any way is representative of its real life counterpart?

    Anita never said serious issues like this should not be addressed. She said that they should not be used simply as window dressing to create a false sense of "edginess" or simply to titillate. I agree with her on this as well.
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  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @MCam435 I guess she feels that doing so would detract from the importance of her argument. She doesn't say sexualized violence against male NPCs or player characters doesn't happen. She just says it happens far less making its occurrence aimed at female characters a talking point and the focus of her video.

    Is there cause to make videos about how generally restricted game narrative/gameplay is? Definitely. It's just not the topic Anita has chosen to discuss (or is perhaps interested in). Doesn't make her videos irrelevant though. Just only part of the bigger picture.

    Edit: The crime intervention scenes in Watch Dogs are not sexualized, sure, but they're invariably of the domestic violence kind. They lack the variety, motive-wise, seen when a male NPC is involved.
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  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @MCam435
    Also whilst the person in the video does have some good points, I can't help but feel she is twisting certain points to get her point across.
    I agree although I wouldn't label it as such. She's slanting her argument to support her thesis. It's par for the course.

    I want gaming worlds with gritty back stories and some uncomfortable scenes.
    Sure, but there are more ways to do this than slaughtering female NPCs in a sexualized fashion. That's her point.
    Reply +5
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @ZiltoidtehOmniscient You can't be offended by both? So people living in the UK have no right to complain about social inequity because they have it better than people in Afghanistan (for example)? Reply +3
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @labtoy LOL! How does this video or article ruin your day? Would having women better represented in games spoil your gaming experience? Shouldn't women have an equal standing in society? Reply +2
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @BobbyDeNiro I have no idea? I don't think anyone does. Do we really know what her current video series would have looked like without all the extra funding? Would there be as much content? And does it really matter? People voluntarily gave her money and she's delivering on her Kickstarter promises. Shouldn't that be what counts? Reply +1
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Avaloner Firstly you are ignoring that men don't report sexual violence as frequently as women. Secondly rape is not the only form of sexual violence. The statistics for sexual violence not classified as rape are not particularly dissimilar. Definitely nothing close to the kind of disparity we see in the video game world.

    Lastly the whole realism argument is bullshit. Gamers are happy for games to be unrealistic. For player characters and NPCs to have supernatural powers. In which case why only stick to portraying sexual violence "realistically" when every other rule can be discarded as required?
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  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Avaloner Are you suggesting adult males don't experience sexual violence?

    Edit: Here is an article with US stats. Note that we're only dealing with reported figures. Men are far less likely to report sexual violence than women.

    For those too lazy to read the entire article:

    In a nationally representative survey of adults:
    •Nearly 1 in 5 (18.3%) women and 1 in 71 men
    (1.4%) reported experiencing rape at some time in
    their lives.
    •Approximately 1 in 20 women and men (5.6% and
    5.3%, respectively) experienced sexual violence
    other than rape, such as being made to penetrate
    someone else, sexual coercion, unwanted
    sexual contact, or non-contact unwanted sexual
    experiences, in the 12 months prior to the survey.
    •4.8% of men reported they were made to penetrate
    someone else at some time in their lives.
    •13% of women and 6% of men reported they
    experienced sexual coercion at some time in their
    lives.
    So I stick by my (and her stance) that sexual violence against women in games is disproportionate even in comparison to real life.
    Reply +1
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Kendrene
    she is cherry picking some scenes out of context amd again in the case of Hitman not informing her audience that hurting civilian is penalizing. Distorting the truth is not presenting factual data.
    Are male civilians sexualized in the same manner as their female counterparts? She never states that only female NPCs can be brutalized. She does however complained that when NPCs are female, there is often an added sexual element which is true in the case of Hitman.
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  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @BobbyDeNiro I think she only asked for around USD6000. She received a lot more from people horrified by the violently offensive backlash she received for coming up with her project. Reply +2
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Avaloner From a NZ study:

    SEXUAL VIOLENCE AGAINST MALES
    The sexual abuse of male children is more common than many people think. One New Zealand study (1) found that one in five sexually abused children is male, and overseas research suggests that 16% of males will experience sexual abuse before the age of 18 (2). The majority of the sexual abuse that boys experience is perpetrated by family members (‘incest’).
    And the whole "games are only doing this to be realistic is BS". If videogame gender and sexuality representations were accurate we'd be looking at a reproductive catastrophe of a population made up mostly (>90%) of straight men!
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  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Avaloner I don't think she's being dishonest. She's making an argument that women are not represented well in games. It's an argument she's backed rather convincingly.

    She doesn't have to go and show that characters in games are generally treated badly (which they are). All she needs to do is show that women are treated worse than their male counterparts (which she has).

    As to who stands to benefit? Well gamers like myself who like to consume well produced and coherently discussed game related media, something which is sadly lacking in mainstream game media lately. Will she sway neutrals? I have no idea. We can only hope.

    As for her standing to benefit from this; well why not? Who many people do anything irl for purely altruistic purposes?

    Edit: I didn't neg you.
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  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Rodimus-Prime She is not overreacting to video game violence. She is highlighting the stark differences between how male and female characters are portrayed in video games. She has never claimed that you can't find male prostitute NPCs in games or that male NPCs don't experience sexual violence (ingame). She argues that these instances are far (and I mean far) less frequent than their female equivalents. Reply +2
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Avaloner You and I might not need such a series (although as I have stated before I do enjoy her videos) but others might.

    Sure I think she has a vested interested with her anti-Patriarchy spiel, but she does make valid points in terms of the portrayal of women in videogames. I did say I don't agree with all her points but I believe that the take home message of her videos, that women can and should be represented in games better, is one that would benefit us all as gamers.
    Reply +3
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @conorkc

    But I believe these are an effect of game creators underestimating the intelligence of the average gamer and less of some "Misogynist/Patriarchal" ulterior motive.
    I think it is a mixture of both to be honest, with the latter being as much subconscious as conscious.

    I don't have a problem with you finding her videos repetitive. Different strokes and all :).
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  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @conorkc
    All she has highlighted is some lazy story telling in some game's side quests, the ability in open world sand box games to stand by and let NPC characters run through their script if you don't intervene and that most games are not making a critique of women issues. I age that all these things are true, but so what? Does it make me want to beat my girlfriend, sister or a random woman in the street because I am a core gamer? No it does not. same way playing COD or BF4 doesn't make me want to shoot at people!!

    It is insulting to say that straight male gamers can't use their brains to see all the stuff she has highlight and put aside with all the other video game nonsense that exists. Why does she think we are such idiots?
    I think you're missing the point. She's not suggesting playing a game like RDR will make you want to beat up "a random woman in the street". She's highlighting the fact that when it comes to women in games, developers are, as you said, lazy. Why is that? Why would the opposite not be a positive for all gamers regardless of gender? Would any of the GTA titles have suffered from having more effort placed into developing female characters? Especially given how much time and money Rockstar have placed on making their open world setting more realistic?

    Just as I am tired with all the gung-ho military FPS titles flooding the market I am tired of the usual gender depictions in gaming.
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  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Avaloner
    Truth is, the portrayal of MOST characters in videogames is fairly one dimensional. As a rule, only the main character and a few side character are given any sort of depth. Now consider the fact that main characters are predominantly male.

    And why is that? Well - Triple A games usually pander to a male audience. I will not delve into any statistics but will speak out of personal experience here - Only a couple of the females I know personally consistently play any triple A games. Most play exclusively on their smartphone.
    Sure I agree with that. By why does pandering to a (presumably straight) male audience preclude having more female main characters or important NPCs. Look at my list of female characters. All of them are from major console releases. And since you're bringing up anecdote I, as a man, have no problem with games with a strong female protagonist or NPCs. It doesn't detract from my enjoyment of the game. Given the commercial success of a game like TLOU, it seems I am not alone here.

    So in essence the whole point of her series (and I am not sure I agree with you on this) is based on a false premise - That this business should include features which the vast majority of consumers care little about - for the sake of inclusivity and equality.
    It's not for inclusivity or equality. It's for giving gamers a broader narrative selection. How is more choice a bad thing?

    I think the demeaning and exclusive attitude towards female players by male counterparts within the gaming community is a much more serious issue. But, for some reason that rarely gets any mention... even here on Eurogamer.
    I agree that this is an issue. And it should be mentioned here. Then again just imagine the kind of comments we would get...
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  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @chris1479 There is no need to whinge about men or male gamers. There is a need to point out the difference in how female characters are represented in games. We would all, regardless of gender, stand to benefit from better representations of women in our media of choice. Reply +4
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Lemming81 It's one-sided because the portrayal of women in games is sadly rather one-dimensional. That's the whole point of her series. Why not have games with strong female characters. What was wrong with Nilin, Nariko, Trip, Elena, Ellie, or fem-Shep? As a man I would gladly see more characters like them and less generic femme-fatales, damsels in distress or plot devices to be fridged. Reply +7
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @dirtysteve "Toxic feminism" in gaming? Really? You're kidding right? This hobby is about as male oriented as you can get. And there is a clear disparity between how male player/non-player characters are created in comparison to their female counterparts. How would attempts being made to redress this balance be classified as "toxic feminism"? Reply +4
  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    I really enjoy her videos. They are very well produced, she has obviously put in a lot of work making them and she is an eloquent presenter. I may not agree with everything she's brought up in the series but she's made far more hits than misses I reckon. Definitely worth while watching and being used as points for discussion. Sadly this won't happen. Just look at some of the (mild) shit here... Reply +2
  • Microsoft confirms Rise of the Tomb Raider Xbox exclusivity deal "has a duration"

  • frazzl 28/08/2014

    @Loghorn As have I (going back to the early 80's). And it was you who started throwing insults my way. That's ok. I forgive you. As I do the guy who called me a Sony fanboy in the PSN DDOS article thread yesterday ;). Reply 0
  • inFamous: First Light review

  • frazzl 27/08/2014

    @CynicalMe3 No you read me right. At retail the game retails for around 17 quid (34-35 NZD)

    If it costs USD15 or thereabouts online I'll be pleased :).
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  • frazzl 27/08/2014

    @CynicalMe3 We really killed it neg-wise on Sports Friends :) Reply 0
  • frazzl 27/08/2014

    @funkateer Will definitely check out the price on PSN. 15 USD is fine with me price-wise. 34 NZD is a fair bit more but as you said retail disc versions of these games tend to cost more. Reply 0
  • frazzl 26/08/2014

    I am just annoyed at the retail price here. It's selling for 34 NZD or roughly 17 quid. For 3- 4 hours of content that's quite expensive. I will have to check what it costs on PSN. Loved Infamous 3 so I want to get this. At a reasonable price though like what they're charging in the UK. Reply 0
  • Sega announces Yakuza 0 for PS4 and PS3

  • frazzl 26/08/2014

    @harzo Both 3 and 4 and the zombie spin off are stellar games. Reply +4
  • Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls Ultimate Evil Edition top of UK chart

  • frazzl 26/08/2014

    @abigsmurf I can't wait for Dangan Ronpa 2. The first is still my GOTY thus far! Reply 0
  • frazzl 26/08/2014

    Wasn't going to get it having not been overly impressed with my brief time with the 360 version but as it was on sale tonight (retailing at around 34 quid)....installing it on my X1 at this very moment XD. Reply 0
  • Face-Off: Diablo 3: Ultimate Evil Edition

  • frazzl 25/08/2014

    @thetimeisnow You're the only idiot here buddy. I have said on numerous occasions last gen that most of the time the differences highlighted in the DF face-offs are minor. That for many gamers it comes down to controller preference, friends list and achievement points/trophies. Then again what can I expect from a Sony fanboy like yourself. Reply -2
  • Sony confirms "reduction in workforce" at inFamous dev Sucker Punch

  • frazzl 22/08/2014

    @UkHardcore23 It's a good series. I for one hope for more Infamous titles! Reply +1
  • SteamWorld Dig is coming to Wii U next week

  • frazzl 21/08/2014

    @bobitsch You're kidding right? Forza 5 is 1080p 60fps. Child of Light. Strider. Rayman Legends. Diablo 3. Outlast. And that's just the games I can think of at the moment. Seriously the last thing Eurogamer needs is more fanboys. Reply +2