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I can't see the point of buying multiplats on it if the rumours are true and it's less powerful than the Xbone or PS4.
Sony, MS, AMD, Nvidia and many others are continuously working on ways to improve performance by using GPU compute, but it isn't some quick fix or magic bullet.
It's not a choice between resolution and framerate. It's possible for single programmer to implement "faux K" on an existing title in days, it takes far longer to R&D something like Ubisoft's cloth physics with no guarantee of success. These are not equivalent tasks.
Developers have always been perfectly able to make 60fps games on consoles, the fact is they often choose not to because there are so many opportunities to do more at 30fps. Not just in graphics but also in the size and complexity of the worlds they create. You will probably never see a console with 60fps as the minimum framerate because there will always be a more impressive game running at 30.
Not every game needs to be 60fps on console, if they did we'd never have played games like Halo, The Witcher 3, Assassin's Creed, SotC or Uncharted in the form we have. That would be a massive loss for gamers.
Absolutely, Sony and MS both couldnt give two fooks about games, it's the services etc they can flog you alongside it that really makes them money. Sony were honest about this in beginning, then when people reacted badly to the ps3 as media hub, they downplayed it, then came 360 with better features and they were playing catch up, then MS overplayed their cards with xb1 and Sony pulled back again.
No, not all games will be CPU bound, but it's certainly not going to help. When you see PC games generally running on i3 at 60fps you know what games ps4 could handle it, if had gpu power, but when they start needing i5, then you know CPU is holding back ps4.
I think pc is the way for you then mate as both parties are only interested in the shine unfortunately.
I'm wondering if the Scorpio will have options though? Not everyone has a 4k tv.
For instance-and please anyone with any tech know how correct me- if the Scorpio has say, the next assassin's creed running at 4k/30, what does someone who owns a 1080p tv get? Super sampling but still 30fps? Will we get 60hz options? Aaaargh
GPUs are not even remotely like CPUs, you can't magically make tasks that work on one run on the other.
Even if it were possible, do you think developers would be happy being asked to target such a bizarre set up? (Edit: It would make the PS3 look positively user friendly).
The Pro (and Scorpio) are basically just the versions of the base consoles designed to render games at a higher resolution. That's why they're mid-gen refreshes and not the 'next-gen'.
it doesn't sell tvs
Sony have said a lot about 4K image construction on the Pro because that's the easiest way to get a PS4 game to scale on the new hardware. In some cases a single programmer working for just a day or two.
Effectively they can't scale up CPU performance to the same extent they can with the GPU.
In the end though, what the majority of games do with the hardware is up to developers. MS and Sony don't have much say.
However, upscaled 1080p won't be too common, with Sony affirming that supporting higher resolution ultra HD screens is strongly encouraged.
"Going forward we are highly encouraging direct support for 4K TVs and HDTVs, though we leave the specifics of how they do that up to the development community," Cerny continues. "They know best, but we really do want to see a higher resolution mode for 4K TVs and then some technique for HDTVs. It can be just scaling down from a higher resolution."
Hopefully, MS use a newer gen CPU as if they stay with the current CPU tech at overclock then all we'll get is 4k/30. I'm an advocate for options though. I'd take a 1080p/60 option as well.
Some people on here don't want that though, they want a Dev's fixed vision. Sorry, if we're at the 6tflop gpu level I want a bit of leeway.
The dream of PS4 Pro being an automatic cure to the ills of PS4 by it hopefully running all PS4 games at the targeted frame-rates which PS4 couldn't manage has seemingly been snuffed out
What kind of paid article is this?! Good news we only have 1GB on PS4 fellas. 5GB is going to be an issue on XB1 so dont bother with that POS! Are you an John Linneman from DF on a mission or what.
I know. Vicious insult, 'asshat', isn't it? I have to get really cross to wheel that one out. Definite genuine proof I 'have my panties in a bunch'. Such venom! Thank goodness you kept a cool head to allow you to ram home that advantage, because if you'd ceded that high ground right before coming after me about it, you'd have been in danger of looking a bit of a tit
Anyway, childish fun aside, I know I brought up Microsoft! I'm not really sure why anyone would think otherwise, let alone think it was a clinching point. I brought them up in relation to Nintendo having a better track record than them, which they do.
Opinion is not fact. Fortunately for me, the numbers backing up my opinion are, in actual fact, fact. Nintendo have good track record of selling video game consoles.
And yes, you're really showing me up here with all your unanimously downvoted posts. I feel utterly humiliated in front of the EG community. How on earth will I ever show my face here again?
You likened Nintendo's track record to a broken clock. That's wrong. They have a very good track record.
When you compared their track record to Microsoft's I mistakenly assumed that was in support of your point, because normal people don't normally bring up completely irrelevant shit. My apologies.
What are you on about? They’ve released 3 of the 5 best-selling consoles of all time, and the two most recent entries in that list are the DS and the Wii. Sony haven’t released a console that successful since 2000, and MS never have.
Aww, bless! Thanks buddy! You keep calmly throwing out shit insults.
Oh, do fuck off.
Only without some asshat asking you for a citation.
Bored now. I just wanted to correct you on the Nintendo track record thing, because it was obviously bollocks, and I have, so I don't think we have much else to talk about.
The DS was released 12 fucking years ago. The Wii was released 10 fucking years ago. Both sold more than the 360, which remains Microsoft's best selling console, and was released...11 fucking years ago.
Having your best selling console be released at the same time and sell fewer units is a better track record? In what world?
In my experience, I have met many people who don't really see themselves as 'gamers' but who had DSs and Wiis. I therefore speculate that they were, and still are, an important market to Nintendo in EXACTLY the same way that you speculate that the Wii was a fluke, and the Wii U sold poorly because of some sort of ongoing apathetic malaise rather than it just costing too many pounds. And didn't really catch people's imaginations because it was too much of a boring bog standard home console.
Only without some asshat asking you for a citation.
A lot, if it’s cheap enough.
A lot of people who don’t really consider themselves ‘gamers’ had Wiis and DSs and Gameboys.
What are you on about? They’ve released 3 of the 5 best-selling consoles of all time, and the two most recent entries in that list are the DS and the Wii.
I feel console gaming isn't yet truly mainstream.
My wife and teenage daughter aren't interested in console gaming, neither are my Mum or Dad, but they are more than intrigued by Nintendo's new offering.
Nintendo, who I truly believe do not owe the success of the Wii to coincidence, but rather daring to be different and having balls of brass.
It has just occurred to me that the last two consoles I actually purchased (as opposed to being handed down to me) were the N64 for myself and a Wii for "the children" ;) I guess some will decide that makes me a fanboy, but it's really just the way it worked out. Having a PC that's not quite on it's last legs yet, I reckon this NS will be a great complimentary platform, and I'm truly excited by the concept.
Universal appeal - all ages, regardless of gender, will want to try it out - hence "mainstream".
I disagree that Nintendo are shitting on New 3DS owners - they're either existing 3DS owners trading up to a slightly more powerful unit (ring any bells?)
It's a brave new chapter in Nintendo's history. I really hope it does well.
Remember, people mocked the Wii until they got their hands on one and really understood it's plus points. I'm not saying it'll appeal to everyone, but it will surely have universal appeal.
And don't forget, it replaces both the Wii and the DS product lines, so it potentially has two (overlapping) target markets as well as any new adopters.
Did I see a completely different trailer or does that just look like Wii U Mobile with cheap controllers tacked on to the side? Where's the innovation? What's the battery life? Why do games look no different from Wii U titles?
I watch that video and can't help but think, "this is going to tank so hard."
Skyrim, Fallout 3, Infamous 2