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their hobby is less enjoyable because of their 'brand loyalty fanboyism' in that they spend more & more of their time 'preaching to the enemy' rather actually sitting down with a good game, whether alone or with friends, and having a good time.
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I love my XB1, but also enjoy my PS4 and Wii U as well. I just prefer my XB1 but that's my choice. I don't see why some snotty nosed adult should troll these forums instead of having a mature conversation. I like this site for the news but these forums are a joke. I don't slag off my mates who drive a different car or like different food. It's pathetic. We should all want all the consoles to do well as that's the future of our hobby.
ep, developers like to make exclusives for the less sold console. :lol:
Anyway, i won't continue to discuss with you. I can't discuss anymore with a guy thinking a 20$ 2D multi-platform game can compete with a Sony AAA exclusive from a technical perspective. ;)
But MP is NOT upscaled, just Guerilla used different technique for full 1080p, isn't it. :D Of course, DF didn't explained which technique is that cuz they didn't knew which is. Oh yes, DF noticed "strange" res a few months after launch.
FROM is developer, Studio Japan IS developer, NOT a publisher. Studio Japan co-developed with From! Do you know what is co-development??
SCEI, SCEA, SCEAustraila, SCEE ARE THE PUBLISHERS ( depends which region ).
Antropie asked you about more examples. You didn't answer. So, you have nada!
You have bunch of examples from PS2 generation. Developers just decide to bring exclusives to PS2 because install base.
Anyway, i'm done here.
Yep, more examples please. :D
Also, Helldivers is truely comparable to Tom Raider. :lol:
And don't forget developers will naturally go towards Sony for a simple reason : http://www.ibtimes.com/ps4-vs-xbox-one-sony-sells-more-202-million-consoles-worldwide-1835732
In most situations, Sony doesn't have to pay anything : developers simply choose the most sold console... as simple as that...
Truely agree, that's why we can't say Killzone is technically more impressive than Mario Kart on GBA.
It's just a subjective opinion : http://otrapartida.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/mario-kart-advance.jpg
Moreover, you need a very strong hardware to run Ori on PC.
The game is also developed by Japan Studio. FROM may be the main developer, but they are still not alone :
Of course by "well-respected video game site" they mean Eurogamer, of course, whose tech experts at Digital Foundry noted that "Killzone Shadow Fall's multiplayer runs at 960x1080 with a high quality temporal upscale." Our Richard Leadbetter described such as process as using "information from previously rendered frames is used to plug the gaps."
"In Multiplayer mode, however, we use a technique called 'temporal reprojection,' which combines pixels and motion vectors from multiple lower-resolution frames to reconstruct a full 1080p image. If native means that every part of the pipeline is 1080p then this technique is not native.
Good for you. From a technical perspective, it's objectively false and you know it.
Now, you can say you prefer Ori graphics and i have no problem with that.
It's a racing game.
- "You will never have a game as impressive as Killzone at 1080p on Xbox One. What's the most impressive 1080p FPS/TPS on that console ? Destiny ? GTA5 ? LOL..."
I don't care about your opinion, it's a 900p game. ;-)
They bought much less exclusives than Microsoft... also, it must be much more expensive when you have to buy an exclusive for a console which is severely dominated in sales.
Give me a single game as impressive as Killzone at 1080p on Xbox One... Sniper Elite ? LOL...
I don't care. See the DF analysis on Ryse : the game has a horrible framerate...
It's a fact...
One BIG difference : MKX IS UPSCALED (on Xbone), Killzone SF multiplayer is NOT. Get it? Good!
Sony DIDN'T bought SFV as an exclusive. They fund the development cause Capcom asked them for help. Anyway, it will be released for PC also.
Once again, the PS3 showed its power on exclusive titles at least. Even DF said the most impressives games were on PS3.
If i have a good memory, the only game which can be compared to the most impressive PS3 exclusives is Halo 4.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-halo-4 : "In an era where the likes of Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica have defined the graphical state-of-the-art with Uncharted and God of War, Xbox 360 finally has its own shot at the title"
And you had to wait the end of the gen to see that... while the 360 was much easier to develop for than the PS3...
On this gen, the Xbox One is completely crushed on both sides (from a technical standpoint) : multi-platform games and PS4 exclusives.
Moreover, Sony doesn't have as much money as Microsoft, so you should not be suprised to see unfinished games on that console. See what happened with DC... i'm not syaing DC isn't impressive, i'm talking about its many launch problems.
Knack isn't a AAA and Sony can't put a lot of money in all its games.
However, i'm really surprised you dare to mention Killzone as this game is more impressive than anything you can find on Xbox One...
If we speak about the solo mode, it's 1080p + a framerate higher than 30fps. Compare that to Ryse, a 900p corridor game with a horrible framerate...
You will never have a game as impressive as Killzone at 1080p on Xbox One. What's the most impressive 1080p FPS/TPS on that console ? Destiny ? GTA5 ? LOL...
It's a fact : Wipeout HD, GT5/6, Ridge Racer 7 = all of them were over 720p on PS3. Racing games tend to put less much constraints on hardware.
Xbox One can easily reach 1080p on unimpressive games such as remasters or cross-gen titles.
Give me only one 1080p Xbox One game wich is not a remaster, cross-gen game or racing game ? You don't have any...
We don't even have to speak about PS4 exclusives since impressive multi-platform games running at 1080p on PS4 are technically more impressive than anything you have on Xbox One : Witcher 3, Shadow of Mordor, Dragon Age, COD AW, etc.
First of all, do some research before spreading bullshit. Killzone SF in multiplayer technically is 1080p. IQ is NOT upscaled. What is Temporal Reprojectio
Probably you know better, right? You know shit. It's obviously that you're Xbone fan and you call yourself a gamer, but you shit on everyone and call them a fanboy or muppet who said something inappropriate for your Xbone. At least you discovered who you really are.
You mean very unimpressive games ? Moreover, higher resolutions have always been easier to reach on racing games. That's why i gave you Virtua Figther as example. What about KI ? 720p and then 900 ? 900p just like MKX... LOL...
Fine, R1 was a launch title. Thanks to make my point.
Apart from racing-games, there isn't any single AAA Xbox One exclusive running in 1080p...
And ? I don't care... it is really easy to use... its small size is an issue as was the small amount of vram in old gen consoles... that won't change.
The 360 wasn't exactly reasonably priced when it came out either, I recalled forking out $500+ for the console and a few games, and that was the original 360 with a 20GB hard drive. Yes you could get the core model(no hard drive) @$300 but with a few games, extra controller you were in the $400 range easily.
I don't know that Sony ignored the facets of the PS2, to me it seems like they tried to make good on the promises they made with it. PS2 promised a lot of functionality with the hard drive that never came to fruition, in the end only Final Fantasy online made significant use of it. Ps3 learned the lesson from the OG Xbox and included a hard drive from the get go. PS3 also followed PS2 which was the first console with a DVD player, by being the first console with Bluray.
While MS stumbled with the One's reveal, I would not call it's sales poor, it is out pacing the 360(which launched by itself and has sold 84 million+). Ps3 overcame its sales problems and has since sold 85 million+ units...(ie, it's ahead of the 360 despite being around for less time).
The problem for the One is that the PS4 is doing even better.
oh I've never said I'm impartial! I don't think it's an issue though.
The thing about the Xbox One is it's demonstrably less capable than the PS4. I just don't think it actually has any selling points.
So an Xbox One is way, way down on my list of things to buy right now. Way below a gaming PC.
No I will still buy it but don't be naive in thinking it would have been on other platforms even without MS funding. The game was always going to be made
yeaaaaaah but the elephant in the room that you are ignoring is that the PS3 was actually quite a capable games machine (powerful but complex) and a multimedia powerhouse. Whereas the Xbox One is just shit - worse than the PS4 in every respect.
you can argue all you like to dismiss metacritic but what otherstatistical sample is there?
All you are doing is proving that there is no reliable , quantifiable measure of a games worthiness.
The point was that people keep pointing to a particular subset of games on a platform and claiming they are objectively better than another platform and when wxamined, their argument falls apart. when pressed, they admit it is subjective, but then they have to concewe'd that the other platforms also can have better games for other people abd their entire argument falls apart!
And still the "but Sony did the same thing xx years ago" line is trotted out. Instead of condemning the practice of Microsoft moneyhatting a game that was going to be multiplatform, then using finely honed corporate doublespeak in an attempt to fool potential buyers into thinking it was an indefinite exclusive, BUT SONY DUN IT FIRST! SONY! SONY SONY SONY! It's pathetic. And these people have the audacity to accuse those unhappy with this bullshit of being blinkered fanboys! Good lord.
As for EG ARE TEH BIASED lot, for fuck's sake. How old are you? DON'T PICK ON POOR MICROSOFT! LEAVE THE LITTLE GUY ALONE! MS have gotten shit from everywhere over the last 12-18 because they've deserved it, and they deserve more of it over their latest cuntery.
I am now more determined than ever to not buy an Xbox One. Great job, Microsoft!
And fuck you, Square-Enix, you greedy short-sighted tosspots.
Which is fair enough, if they relate specifically to you, but your also dismissing Metacritic..which is an aggregate of many opinions.
I used it simply because it represents a quantifiable figure that proves a point, rather than using my own opinion - which is far less relatable to the general population.
@frazzl Being an underpowered, overpriced pile of poo has hampered the One - Sony recovered and were able to overtake Xbox 360 sales over the lifetime but I just cannot see the One surpassing the PS4
@frazzl You are a moron if you think MS is any better than Sony,maybe financially sure a shit load better but morals are just the same if not worse.
Back when the PS3 launched it was one of the better bluray players in a market where the prices ranged initially from $500 to $1000. $500-600 for a high end Bluray player and latest game console wasn't a bad deal.
Xbox One being US/centric has hindered it's global market penetration compared to the PS4.
Xbox 360 launched a full year ahead of PS3 and launched alone. PS3 launched within a week of Wii.
The Xbox One and PS4 launched within weeks of each other.
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