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  • Spacebase DF-9 gets a non-Early Access release date

  • TarickStonefire 19/09/2014

    Jeffrey Matulef has basically just regurgitated the press release here, with nary a single syllable of journalistic investigation or comment on what's happened here. The post doesn't tell the story *at all*.

    Poor show, EG.
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  • TarickStonefire 19/09/2014

    Looks to me like it ran out of money and was at the bottom of the 'worth saving' list when the axe fell.

    To be honest, Double Fine didn't do themselves any favours. Development updates were few and far between, didn't seem to be pushing ahead nearly enough, and the whole thing was a persistently buggy mess. They barely ever engaged with the community, and late in the day put up a single post that said in fact they were planning even less engagement with the community but that they had big plans coming soon (which it turns out was "we're dumping it early and running away")

    As a result the Steam forums were full of people asking about bugs and wondering why it was all going so slow. And even less people bought it, even though it was *constantly* half price in sales all over the web, clearly a desperate attempt to pull in more money.

    And then the game gets dumped out as 1.0 when it's miles away from being a satisfying game. At least they're polishing up what's there and releasing the source, but if they were just a bit more open about what went down here, people might be slightly less fed up of Tim Schafer's grandstanding, which looks increasingly like bullshitting.
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  • Larian ponders next game as Divinity: Original Sin sells 500k

  • TarickStonefire 13/09/2014

    @Gunship That's still double the 'average' 10. Like I said, if the average is 10 many, many copies would need to have been sold for pennies.

    Anyway, we're all guessing. Game's done well.
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  • TarickStonefire 13/09/2014

    @daviejambo "Average price per copy say about 10 x half a million = 5m
    Not bad"

    Where did you get that average from? It's 30 on Steam. For an average of 10 it would have to be selling for pennies somewhere!
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  • David Braben says The Outsider "probably is gone for good"

  • TarickStonefire 11/09/2014

    @vert1go Not at all.

    I guess what I was not explaining very well is that, it's feasible to find dark sides like that to almost anything one cares to pun about in the name of having a momentary laugh in the madness.

    But I can see why you wouldn't be laughing.

    But I hope you can also see that other people making light puns isn't personal, and isn't malicious.
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  • TarickStonefire 11/09/2014

    Large swathes of my family are Scottish and the amount of time I spent up there in my youth I could call myself an honorary Scot, but I don't find it offensive. I guess I don't count though.

    Waaaaaaah. Someone made a pun about something in the news that it just so happens I'm a bit sensitive about. Waaaaah. Etc.
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  • TarickStonefire 11/09/2014

    God how depressing. All that work, pretty much done, then canned without anyone ever getting to see it. If I was trying to make it as a game dev and went through a couple like that I'd consider giving up on the industry I think. Reply 0
  • DayZ producer moves to calm concern about development

  • TarickStonefire 11/09/2014

    @INSERT-COIN
    "You are right, I should never say never but from now on I am going to be a little more wary going forward as I naively believed that all games would be finished for better or worse.


    Have you bought any games on Early Access and if so are you enjoying them?."
    Nothing wrong in being more cautious :)

    I got a couple of Kickstarter projects, including Satellite Reign and Broken Age. Neither have produced alpha or beta version I can play though, but I am happy with my purchases/backing there.

    Early Access I bought in Prison Architect before it got to Steam, on day one of the public alpha. Never regretted it, it's been *fantastic*. Have not played for last three months though, don't want to spoil it for myself, but I watch every update video.

    Also got Kerbal, but it was practically in final beta by then. Was also well worth it.

    And Door Kickers, that's been great too. Pretty much about to release final version.

    Generally I stop myself just before clicking BUY because I realise I'd rather play the game as it's meant to be, not an unfinished version. On rare occasions I buy because I really like the devs or really want to see how the product gets made. Most of these sandbox early access games I avoid though as they don't seem focussed enough, or are evidently a long, long way from completion.
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  • TarickStonefire 10/09/2014

    @INSERT-COIN
    "It was a great idea in theory that brought the gamers closer to the developers making their games as we could give feed back on the game but it's open to abuse from people on a money grab so I am not going to buy anymore titles like this."
    So you've had nothing but good experiences, four out of four early access purchases have been worth it for you, but a couple of reports about some bad apples and you're ready to write the whole thing off?

    It's a shame that you're unable to separate a few bad apples from the movement as a whole. Use some judgment to assess the reputation of a company offering a game in early access and you could easily find yourself enjoying the process as much as you have with the other four games.
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  • TarickStonefire 10/09/2014

    @TPoppaPuff
    "@TarickStonefire Well, you can invest into someone's future like your kid by paying for their college tuition without expecting a financial return. I think that same definition of investment works here. If there's a better word I'll use it."
    Again I see what you're saying but I still disagree that investment is the right word: when you invest in your child's future you're putting money into that project (your child) essentially so that it can be converted into the future development of their personality and skills which pays off with a secure job and home and income.

    When you buy an early access game, the developer gets your money and you get a game (hopefully) which in all but 0.00001% of occasions (if that) won't have any resale value. The developer can invest your money in the future success of their studio, but you don't really get a return on that yourself, so it's not really an investment for you, unless 'fun' is a return you can make something of! ;)

    My preferred choice of term is 'backing' a game in development. You're backing the game and the developers, like on Kickstarter. Plus I think 'backer' reduces the frequent misunderstanding that the person who bought the game is owed anything. The developer should produce a game, but under the terms of early access that isn't promised.
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  • TarickStonefire 10/09/2014

    @TPoppaPuff I agree with the overall message of what you're saying, but "investment" isn't really the best choice of word, as you're not getting something of increased value back that you could sell on. You get the finished game, hopefully. Reply 0
  • TarickStonefire 10/09/2014

    @Frybird "A Game like Minecraft was steadily built upon. Games like Prison Architect or Broforce already released with most of the core gameplay intact and just lacked some additional features, modes and polish."

    To be fair, PA has seen more than "some additional features" added in the last two years, although it did indeed launch with basic "build rooms, let prisoners mill around them according to a schedule" gameplay already in place. Buggy as all hell though, at the time.
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  • TarickStonefire 10/09/2014

    @Porcupine_I "I would never play a early access game, it would feel like i spoiled everything for myself when it is actually ready to play."

    I stopped regularly playing Prison Architect a few months ago because they were adding lots of really cool stuff but it was almost all a bit broken until the following update a month later.

    I read the blogs and watch the videos but I'm mostly saving myself for the real game now.
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  • TarickStonefire 10/09/2014

    @Faramis "
    This is why I don't support big games on early access. Because when you point out their game is a mess even after 11 months, they will pull that "standard development time" bullshit on you. "
    In-depth games do take a long, long time to make properly, so it's not bullshit just because they've said that. It might be an excuse to get out of explaining why they've done nothing, but most of the time I'd warrant it's because that's how long games take to make.
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  • TarickStonefire 10/09/2014

    If you don't want to play a development build, for whatever reason, then don't buy access to a development build. Wait until it's released and buy it then, like we've always done in the past because we had no choice in the matter.

    If you buy into a game in alpha/development, you have to accept that development might go south, or at least not in the direction you were hoping. And you have to accept that it could take a long, long time.

    You should research the company first, see if they have a track record; ask yourself "Am I considering buying this because I'm fascinated by the development process and I believe in this game and these developers and want to help it happen? Or am I buying it because I'm impatient and I haven't thought it through and I wants to play it nooOoOWwwWW?"

    If you buy into a game in alpha/development and find yourself angry or frustrated with the developers for any of the above reasons, you just learned that you aren't the sort of person who should be buying into games in alpha/development.

    Personally I've been careful in what early access/alpha games I've bought. Prison Architect, Kerbal, Door Kickers. That's about it.
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  • Editor's blog: I'm leaving Eurogamer later this year

  • TarickStonefire 10/09/2014

    Won't really notice any changes I'm sure.

    What else is there out there for blokes that wrote about video games for most of their adult life? Serious question. Do hope you get a new job soon.
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  • Editor's blog: A brief note about "GamerGate"

  • TarickStonefire 04/09/2014

    @Avaloner
    "So by just saying - everyone take a breather you accomplish absolutely nothing."
    Oh I don't know. I accomplished the satisfaction that at least I tried, in my own little corner of the internet, to get some people to stop working themselves up over something so inconsequential to their actual lives.

    I agree that mostly the angry people who read that will just get more angry and continue to RARRGH at the world, and some gaming journos, But they're only going to end up hurting their throats.

    The grown-ups will be talking about the valid points being made, I'm sure. They're just not that fond of trying to talk about them over the incessant din of screaming toddlers throwing their toys all over the place. Can't blame them personally.
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  • TarickStonefire 04/09/2014

    @WhiteUmbrella
    "I have never played this Depression Quest, but by all accounts it is neither much of a game nor great at extending anyone's understanding of depression, except at an extremely superficial level."

    You might not have played the game but I have. So, my opinion obviously won't be as well informed as yours but hopefully worth something.

    I've experienced periods of depression at points in my life. My wife has a form of it bubbling away deep down almost permanently. With that experience in mind, I gave DQ a go last week to see what the fuss was about, an awareness that was ironically brought about not by Quinn having sex with some bloke who promoted her game undeservingly as so many seem so upset by, but rather by pathetic little boys banging on and on and fucking on about it. Oh, the irony.

    Anyway, it brought up such crystal clear memories of terrible thoughts and feelings that I nearly couldn't finish it. In the end I played it twice to see how it handled the polar ends of the game's outcomes.

    Your experience of it being not the deepest game in the world is correct. And it certainly isn't the flashiest. But it doesn't need or want to be either of those so... yeah.

    Despite what you believe having played it yourself, I feel that anybody who's never had depression or depression-like symptoms could play it and come away with a better understanding of how it feels and how incapacitating it is. Not a complete understanding, but a better one.

    That's all it seeks to achieve, and says as much in the opening read, and I believe it does achieve it.

    But you've not played it. So you probably know better than me. I bow to your superior opinion.
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  • TarickStonefire 04/09/2014

    @DaveDavis Oh my *God* you lot will cling to any last possible shred of an argument to keep your rage alive. Reply -2
  • TarickStonefire 04/09/2014

    @tiagoresende
    "Yes, my dear sweet innocent children, corruption in our gaming journalism is too bad to be true.

    Your denial beyond what is a proper cognitive process only substantiates how much of a betrayal this really is.

    Doesn't make it less true. Sorry. "
    Wow the melodrama just drips off the screen. o_O

    The problem I personally have with all this is not that there might be a problem with corruption in video gaming journalism. Because we've known that for ages. We discussed it last year. And the year before last. Big issues emerged. It is not news. You are not the only ones in the world who know this, so please stop banging on like you are.

    The problem is how it's being presented.

    All this started with the hideous hateful threats against Quinn. That rolled into identically vicious threats on Sarkeesian. From all of that emerged the word CORRUPTION which is what everyone says this is all about, but it's not, not really. It's about being angry and morally superior and making a point and taking a stand and RARRGH and RARRRRRRGH and also RARRRRRRRRRGH.

    Like I said, we all know about corruption going on. Let's talk about it.

    But let's do it without the grandstanding, the trolling, the social media lynch mobs, the clarion calls to invoke pathetic blocks on the most hated gaming websites and so on.

    Just calm down. Get off your horse. Put down the pitch-fork. Make some notes about the very specific issues you have evidence for that you'd like to discuss, and write a letter to your nearest gaming website editor.

    Me, I'm going to be playing Diablo 3. Much more fun and worthwhile pursuit.
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  • TarickStonefire 04/09/2014

    The thing is, there really is no scandal here. Nothing really really bad has happened or is happening, that won't get ironed out in the end by a bit more openness and bit of time and a bit less threatening to rape and kill those you disagree with.

    It's all so incredibly, fascinatingly blown out of all proportion, and ultimately will lead nowhere that interesting or helpful or positive at all.
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  • TarickStonefire 04/09/2014

    @PlugMonkey
    "@TarickStonefire

    The thing is, no journalist will have written those things and meant to direct them at every single person who plays games.
    Therein lies another little absurdity I've witnessed while surfing the reaction to this nonsense.

    I've seen people say that characters like Sarkeesian should just ignore the torrents of abuse that are specifically, directly and personally targeted at them. (It's just the internet! Ignore it! It's part of celebrity! It happens to everyone!)

    But then turn around and be cut to the quick, injured to the point of outrage, by a general statement made not about them, but about a group they somewhat associate themselves with.

    Wut?"
    On the plus-side (depending on your point of view of course) I've heard Alanis Morissette has now got enough material for an entire series of concept albums called "Now That's What I Call Ironing" heh ;)

    (subtitled: 'This Time I Know What I'm Talking About'...)
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  • TarickStonefire 04/09/2014

    @dirtysteve I'll refer you to my points made to another poster here:

    there *is* a good discussion to be had. We've sort of had it before. It went okay, a lot better than this is going.

    But it will take distance from the entirely unhelpful pissing matches about what a gamer is, who gamers are, and whether gamers are dead; and who Zoe Quinn dared to have sex with; and whether Anita Sarkeesian has a good point.

    All largely irrelevant and distracting from the valid points that do exist here and there in between the RARRRRRRGH!
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  • TarickStonefire 04/09/2014

    @Avaloner
    "By everyone you mean anyone who does not agree with your point of view? We have been having actual mature discussion here for quite a while now. Glad you could join. Just - avoid the generalizations. There have been a few already and they don't help."
    No, not at all. Where did you get that?

    I mean everyone. EV-ER-Y-ONE

    As in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyfbRz4ObFY

    That's what 'everyone' means.

    Not just the commenters and staff here, or at (insert gaming site of your choice here).
    Not just the folk locking horns on Twitter.
    Not just the gaming journos taking the most flack.
    Not just the ones writing the most unhelpful replies.
    Not just the manchildren threatening to rape and kill women they don't agree with, or 'just' rip out their cunts and drink their blood (quoted word for word from a tweet to Sarkeesian).
    Not just the regular humans outraged and disgusted by the level of pettiness their fellow humans will sink to.
    Not just the ones who are absolutely adamant that they are right and everyone else is wrong (on both sides).
    Not just the ones whining "THEY HATE GAMERS!".
    Not just the ones replying "wtf is a 'gamer' anyway?"

    Everyone. Take a breath. Come back later.

    Because you're right, there *is* a good discussion to be had. We've sort of had it before. It went okay, a lot better than this is going.

    But it will take distance from the entirely unhelpful pissing matches about what a gamer is, who gamers are, and whether gamers are dead. All irrelevant and distracting from the valid points that do exist here and there in between the RARRRRRRGH!
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  • TarickStonefire 04/09/2014

    @blarty
    "I don't believe any one should lose their jobs over this, but there is such a thing as professional distance, and it appears that it's absolutely fine for the media to, via their privileged writing positions and the 140 character enabling supporters to have no qualms generalising over a huge section if not all of the 1.2 billion people (as of last year) who play games (given that this more or less is the definition of 'gamer') as misogynistic racist, homophobic cis males, 'obtuse shitslingers' and 'internet-arguers'."
    The thing is, no journalist will have written those things and meant to direct them at every single person who plays games. I know that by choosing to interpret it that way a lot of shouty angry people gift themselves fuel and justification for even more shouting and more anger, but that's half the problem here.

    It's perfectly clear to anyone employing common sense what sort of person those comments are aimed at, and people writing this sort of 'fake shock' reaction to what's been said, as if with mouth agape in mock horror at being so offended, are being wilfully obtuse and are standing in the way of having any sort of mature, reasonable discussion.

    To those of you insisting on taking offence from what you see as some outright attack on all humans who play video games:

    pull yourself together, get over any perceived (and imagined) slight against you personally that you may be feeling, and if you've got anything pertinent to say to editors about gaming journalism then write them a calm, mature, sensible letter on actual paper with an actual pen, outlining the specifics of your concern, and put it in an envelope and post it.

    I guarantee, that letter will be read and heard more than any amount of angry wibbling anyone might do on the internet.

    EDIT: Heh, negged for pointing out the obvious and then promoting a valid, positive method of directing your concerns to those gaming site editors you are angry with. You guys! You don't *really* care about what you claim to be so angry about, do you? Bless your angry little cotton socks.
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  • TarickStonefire 04/09/2014

    @Guy.J.
    "My personal opinion based on common sense and what little actual factual evidence I have seen is that ZQ is a shit person. Which has nothing to do with anything except to those who want nothing more than to see this particular type of shit person burn. Nepotism? Corruption? We're talking about one insignificant little indie dev that almost nobody had heard of who made a free game, which wasn't even reviewed by the journalist she was sleeping with. Get a bit of fucking perspective here."
    +1

    I am liking this voice of reason that is emerging amongst many other humans who, like me, also happen to play games.
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  • TarickStonefire 04/09/2014

    @PlugMonkey
    "Here's what I find absurd: It was a free game. Designed to promote the understanding of, and help people with, depression. No personal gain was ever sought or found.

    The 'conflict of interest' at the heart of this gigantically destructive poostorm is someone giving a plug to their friend's free game designed to promote the understanding of, and help people with, depression.

    /slowclap"
    You, sir, also speak my mind. Very glad some level-headed, sensible people exist in this shitstorm.
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  • TarickStonefire 04/09/2014

    @Pasco_
    "The #gamergate assholes are now crowing ecstatically about chasing Jenn Frank and Mattie Brice out of the industry. We're losing fantastic writers and people everyday due to this heinous insanity.

    But please, tell me again how this isn't a hateful campaign of intimidation designed to silence women, and is instead a moral and ethical crusade against the dreaded journalistic impropriety."
    You speak my mind, sir.

    There might just possibly be a couple of salient points in amongst the bandwagon-hopping, and definitely a real discussion to be had about perceptions of corruption in VG journalism. We've had those discussions before, such as the Mountain Dew thing. So we're capable of talking about it.

    But this whole thing is fucked. It's been tainted by how it started, which was as a smokescreen to try and gain legitimacy and distract from the hateful and inexcusable bullying and victimisation of a woman who dared to be vocal and make unusual games and, ermahgerd, have relationships with consenting adults.

    That's what 'gamergate' means to me when I see it. Fucking hateful.

    Everyone needs to give it a rest and come back for an actual mature discussion about perceptions of corruption in a couple of months, when there will be no need and, as now frankly, zero excuse whatsoever to start targeting people on social media.
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  • TarickStonefire 03/09/2014

    @Widge "Shafer has been behind the videos for some years now."

    Great, even better!

    My point is that while it would be great for more developers to say something along the lines of "there's a point being made here; we'll be looking at our work to see what we can do", it's not the *most* immediate issue that needs addressing; that would be the violent and completely unnecessary threats against people who dare to have an opposing opinion to the trolls.
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  • TarickStonefire 03/09/2014

    "... which praised Zoe Quinn's qualities as a maker of unconventional videogames, whilst studiously avoiding the controversy elsewhere, despite having a title that implicitly referenced that controversy"
    It said we need more developers like Zoe Quinn. That refers to her history of making games that aren't just 'games' and address things games don't normally address, and her habit of making them free or very cheap, and so on.

    If you chose to see it as "we need more developers that people get really fucking angry about for no reasons that have anything whatsoever to do with them" that says more about you than it does about that article.
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  • TarickStonefire 03/09/2014

    @arcam
    @TarickStonefire we are all aware that there are 'gamers' and there are 'people who enjoy games'.

    Are we? I never knew there was a difference until I heard people claiming that this week.

    If 'gamers' is not supposed to mean 'people who play games', then you are using the wrong word.

    If they are exclusively addressing trolls and assholes, then stick to using those terms.

    It makes zero sense to use the word 'gamers' and then claim it doesn't apply to people who play games.

    Even if you think it does make sense, you certainly shouldn't be surprised that people get the wrong end of the stick when you completely change the meaning of a word "for the purposes of this discussion".
    "are we?" Well yes, we are now apparently. That was the point of my post, really: we are all capable of looking at the sorts of people calling themselves 'gamers' in this pathetic shitstorm and deciding if we are 'gamers that simply identify as humans that like games' (what I would class most of us as), or 'angry people who post threats on Twitter' which I would class these arseholes as. If you see what I mean?

    In other words arcam, I agree, I don't identify myself as their sort of gamer. I agree, also, that they're pathetically hateful humans, and are largely just trolling because they're bored and/or confused. Or something.

    But they're calling themselves gamers, that's what they want to see, so that's what I referred to. I think I made it really quite clear what I was doing when I did so, and made it very easy for people to identify with my version of a gamer (normal human who likes games) and their version (prick).

    Don't see the need to take the post apart. Use common sense. All quite clear if you read it slowly. Bigger fish to fry here.
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  • TarickStonefire 03/09/2014

    @arcam
    "They ask us to report threats and misogyny when we see it on Twitter or Reddit, but not when we see it in the games they make. Why not?

    They could encourage us to report it, and they could commit to banning offenders and rooting it out of their games.

    It's the one area where they are in a position to actually make a difference and they don't even mention it."
    What about the developers that openly supported the message AS was putting across in her latest Tropes video? I recall Schafer, for one, backed it.

    I think they could do more to openly acknowledge that they're hearing that message and will address it in their games in the long term, I agree.

    But the more immediate matter that needs addressing is the increasingly offensive and violent threats being made by angry/bored little boys - and girls, for that matter - right now, kids and arseholes who have jumped blindly on a bandwagon (see the 'I understand why they are so angry' article, it's a very good read indeed).

    That's a problem that can be addressed with much more immediacy than the development community as a whole can give to address the issues raised in 'Tropes'. Hopefully when this calms down a little they'll get their shit together and put out their own statements acknowledging the tropes issues.
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  • TarickStonefire 03/09/2014

    @Avaloner Ohhhh. Reply 0
  • TarickStonefire 03/09/2014

    @TheJeffers
    "I think this issue needs this "basic scrutiny" at this point. If people buying in to these allegations is so toxic, then surely the most positive action would be to clearly address all of the allegations and debunk them? I am yet to see any of the gaming press take such an approach, or even mention what the allegations are beyond vague allusions to Zoe Quinn and her relationships.

    If there is nothing to hide, address the matter openly. Otherwise it lends credence to these so-called conspiracy theorists and their theories."
    You're not looking hard enough, way back at the start of all this there was plenty of examination that took these accusations down several pegs, but it's mostly lost amid the sewage that followed.

    There's also the fact that frankly these allegations don't deserve the oxygen of publicity and posting articles debunking them just serves to give the hateful shits something else to pile in under, makes them angrier and more likely to retaliate even more.

    Whole thing isn't worth it. EG have done well to keep their input on the matter in single figures. Wish it had been zero, frankly.
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  • TarickStonefire 03/09/2014

    @arcam
    "This isn't about gamers, it's about idiots on the internet, and I wish people would stop assuming I or anyone else on this website is one of those because I put a joypad in my hand."
    I think you're taking it a bit personally. It's not about you. It's about, as you rightly say, the assholes. A lot of them are 'gamers' and like to identify as 'gamers' and we are all aware that there are 'gamers' and there are 'people who enjoy games'.

    For the purposes of this discussion you are the latter. They are the former.

    Mm-kay?
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  • TarickStonefire 03/09/2014

    @nibblo "This article is ridiculous, hey lets start up a petition against eating live babies next. As others below have stated 99.99% of gamers DON'T make death threats to devs or random feminists and actively discourage anything resembling a threat."

    Doesn't matter. Enough do that the rest of us, who as you rightly point out vastly outnumber these horrible humans, should stand up to them more often.
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  • TarickStonefire 03/09/2014

    Gosh, over 500 comments. I'm sure at least a couple of them are level-headed and reasonable. Reply +1
  • PewDiePie no longer allows comments on his videos

  • TarickStonefire 03/09/2014

    @Iunius "Comment section is why I have ever watched any of his videos."

    Why?

    Serious question. I've rarely seen a busy comments section on YouTube that had anything other than vicious trolling and arguing going on. And spam.

    Why would you miss that?
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  • Why we need more developers like Zoe Quinn

  • TarickStonefire 31/08/2014

    I see this thread did exactly the business EG planned it to do.

    Most cynical bullshit excuse for a long overdue article on an interesting developer ever. Well done EG. Maybe you should just rename Saturday Soapbox into Saturday Shit Stir?
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  • TarickStonefire 30/08/2014

    @WoodyG nepotism. That's when you promote a family member right?

    Dude you don't even have your angry accusatory terminology right. Go away, have a think about how much this really matters and don't come back.
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  • TarickStonefire 30/08/2014

    Well done, EG, I see your cynical, now almost weekly clickbait experiment is working marvellously. Reply +14
  • TarickStonefire 30/08/2014

    @Sildur hey dude that M word had never been used by me. You are being a pathetic little boy, not a mysogynist.

    Strawman yourself into oblivion by all means but don't do it in my name.
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  • TarickStonefire 30/08/2014

    @WoodyG How much money did you spend? On what? And all the other times you spent money on a game that was highly rated but you personally didn't like, did you go on this pathetic rampage to try and shame a woman over having a private life? Because I guarantee you you've spent waaaaay more money on far bigger games that got far more corrupted reviews put there than she ever allegedly did.

    Just get over yourself you pathetic little boy.
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  • TarickStonefire 30/08/2014

    @WoodyG Nah, you're getting all het up over a really tiny and insignificant little bit of so-called 'corruption' that has harmed nobody and done gaming no hardship.

    The only reason all you lot are tenaciously clinging to it like he last life raft as the titanic sinks is because a) ITS A GIRL DOING SOMETHING THAT DEMONSTRATES EMPOWERMENT AND INDEPENDANCE INOUR DOMAIN OMIGOD, and b) all the other boys are doing it so you are too.

    Nobody has been harmed. Gaming is fine. You will continue to hear about all the great games that come out. Get. Over. It.
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  • TarickStonefire 30/08/2014

    @Sildur yes it's clickbait but all your points are hateful bullshit. You're part of the problem. Reply -8
  • TarickStonefire 30/08/2014

    By the way, EG, much as I like the content of this article, you so BLATANTLY commissioned it because you're sad you missed the wave and now you want on it. You're glad you had nothing to do with that salacious woman-shaming evil nonsense that is still going on, but you really really want some of those clicks.

    Hence this pure click bait.
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  • TarickStonefire 30/08/2014

    @feistycheese I also don't want to play the cancer game. But I made an exception for DQ as it was free and sounded curious. It did make me feel pretty dark inside at times, needed to play twice to try and get a happier ending. Reply 0
  • TarickStonefire 30/08/2014

    I thought DQ was a good game. It should help folk without experience of depression have some inkling of how isolating it is.

    I realise I'm not allowed to have this opinion because a) someone had sex and b) others think it's not a good game at all a d c) others ithnk it's patronising in some way.or makes a mockery of depression or just doesn't communicate depression accurately at all, but I disagree with all those people and I liked it so tough luck :)
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  • TarickStonefire 30/08/2014

    @WoodyG I'm sure the total loss of attention given to games that really really really deserved it but in fact went completely and tragically unnoticed due to a handful of people on this planet having a private life that's none of your business is likely zero.

    If you can demonstrate otherwise, I don't really care.
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  • TarickStonefire 30/08/2014

    @Dysisa That's just your take. I have experience with depression, both personally and from my wife's point of view, and I found it a remarkably close to the bone, illuminating and emotional experience.

    Sure, it doesn't and cannot very deep into depression, but it gives a very good semblance of how isolating it is.

    Just because it didn't nail your personal experience, doesn't make it ineffective.
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