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  • Jim Sterling comes out on top as lawsuit with Digital Homicide dismissed

  • PlugMonkey 23/02/2017

    @mattshark

    And where did I say I don't like Jim Sterling?

    Was it on the many occasions I said how smart and funny he is? Or was it when I put his success down to his charm, wit and character?

    I think he's more of an entertainer than a crusader, but I don't dislike him at all. I think he's very good. I've said this repeatedly.

    Slaughtering Grounds, however, was not a straight review and you are never going to convince me of this blatant untruth.

    He deliberately picks bad games to tear apart for laughs. That is one of the things he does. It's very popular. People make compilations of the highlights. It's very funny.

    However, while the bit at 2:20 where he layers dance music over the crap animation is hilarious, it's not a straight up review. It's for laughs. This whole segment is based around it being fun to watch Jim suffer through crap games, and everyone already knows the game is crap before he starts.
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  • PlugMonkey 23/02/2017

    @mattshark

    Yes. I know he doesn't just review terrible games. He does other articles too. And you know that I know this, because I've already mentioned them.

    However, in the section of his shows where he reviews terrible games for laughs - and there is a section of his shows where he reviews terrible games for laughs - he deliberately picks on terrible games specifically for laughs.

    He does. I've watched them. We're posting comments under an article about a bizarre legal saga that spawned from one of them. Your denial of this is kind of weird.
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  • PlugMonkey 23/02/2017

    @mattshark

    Are we talking about the same video? I seem to remember him laughing quite a lot in the one I watched, and his criticism not being limited to the game, but the people behind the game. Maybe I'm getting mixed up with a later one.

    Either way, the whole point of his 'reviewing' bad games is to get laughs. It just is! People in the comments recommend games they think will be particularly funny.

    This isn't unique. Ben 'Yahtzee' Crowshaw and the Angry Video Game Nerd do the much the same thing but are, in my opinion, far more successful at keeping it about the game and not the people behind it.

    You can believe that these are legitimate reviews if you like, but we're going to have to agree to disagree on that one. The games are deliberately selected for their comedic potential. They are roasts, not reviews.
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @TheStoneRoses

    Yes. He panders to some and antagonises others. Often at the same time.

    He keeps things fresh by sometimes antagonising the people you'd expect him to pander to, and vice versa.

    That's basically his whole schtick. And as Skirlasvoud eloquently described earlier, it is a schtick.
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @TheStoneRoses

    I meant "that's not all he does...when he plays terrible games".

    But then, you knew that already.

    Everything else, I entirely agree with and have already covered. He's smart, he's funny, his content is very well produced. He's hugely successful thanks to his charm and wit and character.

    But he has an audience, and he plays to it - not least when he's "telling it as it is".

    Anybody who doesn't believe that is a mug.
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @arcam

    Yes, terrible games should get terrible reviews.

    You're seriously going to tell me that's all Sterling does? You can look me in the eye, say that, and keep a straight face?
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @mattshark

    No, he didn't just review their game. He mocked their game for laughs. Big difference.

    Maybe they deserved it. Sounds like they probably did. That's not the point. He mocks lots of other people's games too.

    What troubles me is the precedents that this sets.

    If you're a dick to your community, you deserve abuse. Turns out I didn't have the full story on that one. OK, fair enough. If that was the consistent message I was getting.

    If you make games and they're bad, you deserve abuse. What? Why?

    If you make a game using store assets, you deserve abuse. Woah, woah, woah! What? Why? Srsly, you touch Jeff Vogel and I'll beat you to death with your shoe!
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @Yautja_Warrior

    Yes, suing people is crazy. I said that already. But that came after. It is therefore not the reason Jim Sterling shat on them.

    I hadn't realised Sterling conducted such thorough background checks of all the people he shits on.

    I stand corrected. Go get 'em, Jim!
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @CloudXIV

    How do you know? How is the jury arriving at the decision of who is and who isn't allowed to make a video game and try to sell it?
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @arcam

    Before they came to the attention of Jim Sterling they were trying to sue their critics?

    OK, well fair play then.
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @Yautja_Warrior

    I did say BEFORE they turned out to be mental cases. Jim Sterling didn't know they were going to justify him shitting on them by trying to sue everyone, did he? Not when he decided to shit all over them. That doesn't happen with everyone he shits on, so presumably it's not part of the selection process.

    So, what are we left with:

    Lets see....... They made crap games
    And that's it?

    They made games and tried to sell them and weren't very good at it?

    Seriously?
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @Yautja_Warrior

    Yeah but he only shit's on people that are doing questionable things in the industry
    What questionable thing were Digital Homicide doing?

    I mean, before they turned out to be complete mental cases. When they were just making games and trying to sell them and not being very good at it.
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @Skirlasvoud

    I think that's a good assessment.

    He does have bit of an Al Murray, Pub Landlord problem though, in that I don't think it's necessarily all his detractors who are blind to it being a comic persona, or necessarily all his fans who are wise to it.
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @jetsetwillie

    You don't believe he tailors his content based on what is well received and what isn't?

    I believe he does do that, because I don't believe he's an idiot.
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @CloudXIV

    I don't blame him for being an entertainer at all. As I said, it's his job! And he's very good at it.

    I replied to someone claiming he was some kind of truthsayer and rights crusader. No he isn't, he's an entertainer. He says what his audience want to hear.
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @jetsetwillie

    Well, that was mostly just him insulting the rabid superfans that attacked him. Not without justification, and very funny in places.

    Then a couple of minutes on claiming hype is artificially manufactured by something nebulous and vaguely evil that we should stand together to oppose. Right on, man!

    These are both things he's very popular for. It's not exactly insightful analysis though, and I don't think it's really meant to be.

    Personally, I think journalists report on hype rather than create it. Like Sterling himself, they are the weather vanes, not the wind.
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @CloudXIV

    I'm not really sure where I've said that. Perhaps you could point it out?
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @jetsetwillie

    Yes, I did, although I certainly didn't watch all of them. Is there one in particular that I should watch to redress the balance?
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @Simatron3000

    Exactly. He picks those particular games solely to make sport of them, not because it's valuable consumer information. He does that because that's what his audience likes.

    NMS is another interesting example. There are two ways to "inform" people about NMS. One is to point out that an overly ambitious and massively hyped game has failed to live up to the wild expectations. Again. This being exactly what any well informed gaming enthusiast would expect to happen, because that's what always happens.

    The other is to hitch the high horse of righteousness up to the anti-consumer bandwagon, and that's what he does, because that's what his audience likes.

    On my channel, if I had one, I would have told people to expect NMS to be a disappointment to most of them, and then let them all down gently when it happened. And you know what? Nobody would have watched.

    He does stuff and if it gets a good response, he does more of it. That's literally his job. Sterling bangs the drum he bangs because it's what gets everyone dancing. People on here can neg me as much as they want - they usually do - but it won't stop be believing that if everyone stopped dancing, he'd stop banging the drum pretty darn quick and find something else that works.

    If Eurogamer upvotes paid my bills, does anyone seriously think I would keep saying the things I say? Lol. I'd starve!

    He's not your hero, people. There are no heroes.
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  • PlugMonkey 22/02/2017

    @Master09

    Jim Sterling is one of the few voices of truth in the gaming industry...He actually cares...
    Call me Mr Cynical, but I think Jim Sterling largely just repeats whatever his audience likes to hear back to them because that's what gets him clicks and Patreons. He's never struck me as being especially well informed on gaming or game development. He's just one of the loudest noises in the echo chamber. He's also very funny.

    This whole Digital Homicide thing happened because he tipped over from critiquing the games into ridiculing the developers - because that's what his audience wants to hear - and lo, his audience then duly took to Steam to repeat it all again in review bombings there. ECHO-ECHO-echo.

    That said, trying to sue them all for it was both stupid and insane. This is a tough one for a committed Devil's Advocate like myself. I basically have no sympathy for anyone involved here.
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  • Developer admits "we screwed it" after game website exposes review blacklist threat

  • PlugMonkey 19/01/2017

    @jambo74

    Was Dead Effect 2 ever on your list?
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  • PlugMonkey 19/01/2017

    @kangarootoo

    Actually, just ignore my last post. We both agree that it was wrong, and we're both speculating on an intent that neither of us know, so there's really no definitive position to be found.

    I'm willing to cut them some slack because I know how tricky tone in the written word is. For example, this is how I feel when I'm posting on EG:



    And this is how I come across when I'm posting on EG:

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  • PlugMonkey 19/01/2017

    @rudedudejude

    Yeah, s'alright. Reminds me a bit of the Sigma Team Zombie/Alien Shooter games in terms of tone and style, but FPS rather than top down.
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  • PlugMonkey 19/01/2017

    @kangarootoo

    "Don't give us a negative review" isn't appealing to their professionalism, but "please review this game as the simple shooter it is intended to be, rather than making cheap sport of it by drawing unfair comparisons to games with loftier ambitions and budgets to match" is.

    They didn't say either of those things, they said something in the middle, so I'm going to look at the surrounding context to determine which one they meant.

    The implication is that a very negative review must be trolling or otherwise unfair, and whilst that is possible, it is not the only explanation and is an attempt to discredit any negative review.
    If it's possible that very negative reviews are as a result of unfair trolling, is it not also possible that those negative reviews - and only those negative reviews - are what they are referring to? You are jumping to all negative reviews, putting those words in their mouth. That is just as big a leap as I am making, and I don't think the evidence supports it.

    And again, the point about the rubbish threat is NOT that a weak threat is therefore not a threat. That was NOT the point.

    My niece's threat to beat me up was not just a rubbish threat, it wasn't a threat. "I'm going to beat you up!" may have the wording of a threat, but coming from a grinning child with no intention of anything of the sort, it is not just a weak threat, it is not a threat. To construe it as a threat is to take the wording entirely out of context.

    Every single point of context surrounding this makes me think that they wanted a fair shake rather than to bully people into positive coverage. .
    Edit: changed the bit based on me misreading something.
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  • PlugMonkey 19/01/2017

    @rudedudejude

    I dunno. I'll let you know after I play the free demo - the existence of which again seems at odds with a studio desperate to con people with ill-gotten good reviews.
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  • PlugMonkey 19/01/2017

    @kangarootoo

    Yes, but that wasn't my point. It's such a rubbish threat that I don't believe it can have been meant as a threat.

    My niece once threatened to beat me up. She would have been about four at the time. Much as I deplore domestic violence, I didn't call the police because despite her wording the 'threat' only existed when shorn of all other context. She also used to give me 'cups of tea' that were actually, on closer analysis, a cup of air. A cup of tea that rubbish is not really a cup of tea at all.

    I see a badly worded appeal for mutual professionalism. The alternative makes far less sense to me.

    Let's say you're right though, what exactly is the story here? Journalist advises developer to not let door hit them on exit! Parliament dissolved! Palace prepares statement!

    How come whenever one of these 'scandals' breaks it involves someone so utterly insignificant? Where's the Table of Doritos gone? I guess Rab Florence snuffed it out at source, and so we just need to keep on top of these Badfly guys to stop it coming back again.

    Yeah.
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  • PlugMonkey 18/01/2017

    @kangarootoo

    :/

    This 'threat' is embedded in a desperate plea to the reviewer for them to consider the insignificant nature of their studio.

    If it is indeed intended as a threat, then it is the worst threat ever.

    In a fair review "you're better off buying X than this" should consider whether X is five times as expensive. I think that's all they wanted. A fair review rather than a favourable one. Review what it is, not what it isn't.

    Can you imagine how many wannabe Jim Sterlings there must be out there by now? I shudder to think.

    I think it's a poorly worded sentiment of "If you act like a troll, then we'll stop treating you like a proper journalist", but they done gone fucked it up because nobody knew the backstory, and the proper journalists went all proper journalist on their asses.

    Tricky beast, email tone. I've screwed up waaaay worse than that...

    "We're so tiny that if you treat us like we matter, we'll blacklist you!" can't possibly have been meant as a threat, surely?
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  • Nintendo Switch's bundled Joy-Con grip doesn't charge controllers

  • PlugMonkey 17/01/2017

    @grassyknoll

    Consumer rights?! :lol:

    You fail to come up with a half decent justification for demanding this, and so sure enough it suddenly becomes another consumer rights crusade. Exactly what consumer right does this infringe?

    As consumers we are free to care or not care about this feature, and then use that to inform our purchasing decision.

    If, as is the case here, the vast majority of people don't care then manufacturers like Nintendo and Sony and HTC and Roberts and Bose will all update their designs to reflect that.

    You do not have a 'consumer right' for every single design feature to be included in every single product.
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  • PlugMonkey 16/01/2017

    @bad09

    ...albeit a small one.
    Careful now. This is the biggest issue since Brexit.
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  • PlugMonkey 16/01/2017

    @grassyknoll

    I don't doubt you're right, I've just mysteriously entirely missed this scandal surrounding every portable electrical device I've bought in the last 5 years.

    I'm just relieved you've brought it to my attention now, and gosh darn it am I angry about all my perfectly functioning devices now. I'm fit to burst, as you can no doubt imagine.
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  • PlugMonkey 16/01/2017

    @ISmoke

    I didn't say they should complain in THIS thread, did I?

    No, I said I missed the thread complaining when THEY were launched. I said that because, to the best of my knowledge, when they launched there were no such complaints.

    Are you going to want to dig out your portable bluetooth speakers or sports radio from your loft in 20 years time?
    What?! Nintendo should fit the Switch with removable batteries for the retro collector crowd in 20 years time?

    Oh, you're joking! I get you! Ahahaha! Yeah!
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  • PlugMonkey 16/01/2017

    @grassyknoll

    Probably because I have never, ever had to replace a battery in any of the devices I've mentioned - certainly not enough to make me demand it as a feature in any of those devices.

    I must have missed the hundred post thread bitching about this when the PS4 launced. Careless me.
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  • PlugMonkey 16/01/2017

    @grassyknoll

    See adjacent, but also:

    D. I don't have a plug socket on the beach or in the woods.
    No, you have a USB battery pack at the beach or in the woods. And it can be the same one you also use to charge your phone, bluetooth speaker and all the rest of your electrical devices. .
    .
    Edit: Am I the only person who has discovered USB battery packs or something? How is this a negworthy comment? When you are on the beach on in the woods, you have a USB battery pack. Well, I do. If you don't, you should get one. They're really handy!
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  • PlugMonkey 16/01/2017

    @ISmoke

    Because in 3/4/5/6+ years that battery wont be very good.
    Oh, I see. That's the problem.

    Is there a really fantastic reason I'm not quite seeing why this same complaint isn't applied to my PS3 controllers, Vive controllers, mobile phone and tablet?

    And my DAB sports radio.

    And my portable bluetooth speaker.
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  • PlugMonkey 16/01/2017

    @grassyknoll

    no removable battery
    I've heard this complaint from a few places. Why is that a big deal? It charges via a generic USB-C cable.

    Why would I want to fork out for spare Switch batteries instead of just hooking it up to one of the several USB battery packs I already own?

    People complain when Nintendo sell them a bespoke accessory, and then they also complain when they let them use a generic one...
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  • Switch clicks in the hands, but on paper, it's in trouble

  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    @dave5252

    I thought the same. Also, can we please consign the phrase "diehard Nintendo fan" to the eternal dustbin?

    If such a creature ever did exist, it died hard a good long time ago - as the performance of the Wii U will attest.
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  • Nintendo Switch out 3rd March for £279.99

  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    @fastharryDOtcom

    You might just end up proving the old poker theory instead: if you can't see the sucker at the table...
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  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    @Sakuragaoka

    Pretty much. The Wii launched in the USA at $250. Add 11 years of inflation and you get...$299. The Switch is the same price in the US as the Wii was.

    The Wii launched in the UK at £179. Add 11 years of inflation and you get £233, but then the pound is no longer trading at $1.85...
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  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    Well, no region locking is something at least. Not much, but it's something, right?

    Right?
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  • Nintendo's precarious reveal runs risk of Switching off fans

  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    @Mr.Spo

    I don't even think that's cynical. The thing is likely to sell out even at this price.

    Leaving that money on the table would just be daft. It's cynical, but only to the extent that sound business sense has to be.
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  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    @Crocoman

    At the risk of completely blowing your mind, I have absolutely no interest in playing Uncharted 4. A Switch with Zelda for £200 or a PS4 with Uncharted 4 for £200 only has one winner.

    To be honest, a Switch with Zelda for £320 or a PS4 with Uncharted 4 for £200 still only has one winner, but at least I might stop and think for a brief moment.

    Edit: I love that three people have taken the time to try and correct me on my lack of interest in Uncharted. Laughable.
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  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    @shaunydub

    Ah, with you.

    Yes, consumers having to pay more as a result of companies using brexit as an excuse to hike prices is indeed another downside of brexit. ;)
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  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    @shaunydub

    So, just to get this straight, you think the pound dropping will have no effect on the price of imported goods.

    None whatsoever.

    That's what you're saying?
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  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    @monty_79

    I know Brexit is a huge disappointment for many, but it is also not the one cause for all the ill in the world.
    No it's not, but it will be the cause of the singular ill of imported goods being more expensive in this country. Because it made the value of the pound go down and that's what the value of the pound going down means.

    Honestly, it's really not that big of a deal, but why bother trying to deny it? One bad thing about brexit - and you can try and argue that it's the ONLY bad thing if you like - but one bad thing is that imported goods will go up in price. I don't get the denial.
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  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    @Gamblix

    I suspect the majority of people complaining wouldn't have bought one anyway.
    It's not about me. I think it's too high. I'll be buying one anyway, but the friends of mine who see it in the pub and think it's cool are unlikely to think it's THAT cool.
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  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    @-Gemini73-

    You understand that 'more' is a sliding scale, right? Just because you've always paid more doesn't preclude you from paying even more. We would have paid more regardless, and now we will pay even more.

    As you say though, an extra £20 on a toy is not something I'm going to lose a huge amount of sleep over. No point denying it's a factor though.
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  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    @-Gemini73-

    And now we'll pay slightly more over the odds for stuff as a result of the pound being at a 30 year low, which is as a direct result of brexit.

    That's not a party political broadcast, that's cause and effect. Brexit = low pound = more expensive foreign goods. For whatever the positives of brexit may be, that is one of the negatives. No amount of "come on man!" is going to stop that being a stone cold fact.
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  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    That's too expensive, methinks. :( Reply +1
  • Former American football player sues Gears of War dev, claims Cole Train cribs his likeness

  • PlugMonkey 13/01/2017

    @KenpoJuJitsu3

    Then why would it be ridiculous? It's the exact same character played by the exact same actor. I would suggest it would actively harm the plaintive's case not to also sue for Terry Tate.
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  • PlugMonkey 12/01/2017

    @KenpoJuJitsu3

    Same dude.
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