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  • Why we need more developers like Zoe Quinn

  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @BritishBlue1 Good man. Now point out the favourable coverage :)

    (hint: It's not "those two" articles as they came before the relationship)
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  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @WoodyG It has nothing to do with people with learning disorders. You're only saying that because you think it'll somehow give you the upper-hand in this "argument".

    Does it feel good to win those points? Do you feel superior yet?
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  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @Kendrene - EG have been producing pieces with a feminist slant for years. With Ellie's departure this week I am reminded of her "Games For Women" video:

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  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @WoodyG Yeah. I don't care. Reply -4
  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @Sildur Look, if you don't think posting her nudes as part of the harassment/doxxing/death and rape threats is slut-shaming then it's quite clear you have a real attitude issue towards women.

    Yes, I did follow TFYC story. They themselves have said she had nothing to do with it.

    And the game was green-lit because people found it interesting. The mouth-breathers got outvoted. Funny that.
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  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @BritishBlue1 Please point out the favourable review Zoe received for sleeping with a journalist. Reply 0
  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @Kendrene Funnily enough I'm often accused of the exact opposite.

    Ah opinions :)
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  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @Sildur

    1. Incorrect, since Zoe has received this treatment since she announced Deporession Quest, then again when she put it on Greenlight, then again when she put it on Greenlight for a second time (she removed it first time due to harassment), then again when it was released, then again when her ex got all revenge-gossipy about her.
    2. Oh well that makes the use of her nudes for slut-shaming A-OK then.
    3. All she did was express an opinion. Oh shame on her!
    4. Oh boy, that's really debatable.
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  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @WoodyG Where do you work? A nunnery? Reply -5
  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @Avaloner
    To be fair her ex boyfriend exposed many of her lies after she cheated on him. Not saying its true but he provides some compelling evidence on his blog. So I would not say its just internet hearsay.
    "compelling" "evidence" of what exactly? That she had sex with some guys? Well whoop-de-do!
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  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @Sildur Aye, and he left of his own accord because someone threatened potentially expensive legal action against EG. Sad times. Reply +3
  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @WoodyG
    As per the requirement in the industry in which I work, could the writer of this article disclose whether they or their colleagues at EG have funded any of the games or developers in the article and publish a list of all corporate hospitality and gifts received in 2014 with a value exceeding 5.
    That's information that EG already disclose, they started doing it after the whole Rab Florence thing.
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  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    Are you trying to say Peter Molyneux has a God complex Dan? :D Reply +2
  • MrTomFTW 30/08/2014

    @Dr_Z
    Lol, no we don't, if any of this is actually substantiated:
    Good job it isn't then really isn't it?
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  • Leading creators back latest Tropes vs Women video

  • MrTomFTW 29/08/2014

    @Kendrene I have played The Wolf Among Us, and it's a hell of a game. I really enjoyed it.

    I think they used prostitution as a way to show how downtrodden the fables were, and to make the story seedy and gritty. That's OK, but why couldn't they have made them drug addicts perhaps? Or manual labourers trapped in a less-than-minimum wage job at a factory? It would have been a change at the very least without falling back on the ol' sex worker scenario that's so well trodden.

    And Bigby and Snow White's relationship went beyond any one trope. Why? Because Snow was a well written, well rounded character. She had a personality, she had drive, dreams and convictions. They clearly love each other but never admit it for... I dunno a fear of ruining their working relationship? Because of Bigby's past? A lot of the fables don't trust him and feel they're too close already, so if they were in a relationship it'd be unbearable to them.
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  • MrTomFTW 29/08/2014

    @Avaloner
    And its another thing to suggest, as Anita does, that it is used too frequently because it is sexist.
    Wrong way around. It's sexist because it is used too frequently. That's an important distinction.
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  • MrTomFTW 29/08/2014

    @Avaloner Well that's because ice levels aren't sexist.

    But this is. It's not a difficult distinction to make really.
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  • MrTomFTW 29/08/2014

    @Avaloner
    If you are making an argument that the developers should use the stripper/whore house setting less frequently then I partially agree. Partially because, as Anita said herself, these kind of settings are easily identifiable as seedy undergrounds... and I can understand, given the nature of most games, that seedy undergrounds would be visited often.
    Bingo. It seems that sex workers, strippers, strip clubs, brothels and sexual violence have become short-hand for "LOOK HOW DARK AND GRITTY OUR GAME WORLD IS". And they're always full of women in their underwear just sauntering around for a good old ogling.

    And if we're lucky we'll see some dead prostitues, dressed in lingerie. Perhaps spread across a bed?

    And you know, that's fine. It really is, but it's the frequency of games heading to those locations that gets a bit troublesome. And while you can't reasonably expect every person in a game to be a fully fledged character why is it so often the women that's devolved to a stereotype or even a single role?

    Whore, stripper, girlfriend, mother, rape victim, murder victim. Nothing more, eye candy or a MacGuffin to further the plot. A flag to be captured.
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  • MrTomFTW 29/08/2014

    @jimmhoo To quote a New Statesman article on the matter:

    This video is specifically referring to Sarkeesian's discussion of women as background decoration - that is, they don't have any influence on the narrative, and their existence is entirely predicated on their usefulness or otherwise to the player. Hitman: Absolution does penalise the player (slightly) for killing the exotic dancers, just as it does other civilians, but the crucial point is not whether the player chooses to kill them or not. It's that the game presents it as an option at all.

    When women are featured within many games, Sarkeesian is arguing, their appearances conform to a narrow range of identities, body types, social roles and occupations. The repetition of the same kinds of possibilities, presented to players over and over again in game after game, is the visible example of structural prejudice against women, regardless of whether the player chooses to take that option.

    There's a common trope of framing Sarkeesian's work as "cherry-picked", as she takes isolated examples from many games and presents them as a stream of misogyny in order to create the illusion that all of these games are entirely misogynist, the entire way through. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of what it is Sarkeesian is doing with TvsWVG, and what cultural criticism in general is. These are tropes - they're fragments of a whole. By definition they don't make up the entirety of a work of art by themselves, but are instead definable cultural touchstones which artists, writers, developers etc, can use when creating a fictional reality.

    Countless unconscious and conscious compromises get made as a game is developed - just like a film - and it's easy to miss that, sometimes, the sum effect of those decisions can be that Assassin's Creed 2 ends up with a sequence where sex workers get their throats slit as a way of marking checkpoints. Pointing out how fucked up this is isn't tangential to experiencing games as art, it's necessary. Calling the derision of Anita Sarkeesian rational debate is an insult to both her and the idea of debating ideas.
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  • MrTomFTW 29/08/2014

    Everyone stop for a moment!

    Just want to point out the very major difference between Jack Thompson and Anita Sarkaasian...

    Jack looked to censor and ban video games.
    Anita is offering critical analysis of video games. Censorship is not on the table. To quote her: "Remember that it is both possible (and even necessary) to simultaneously enjoy media while also being critical of it's more problematic or pernicious aspects".

    OK carry on.
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  • MrTomFTW 28/08/2014

    @TekMerc Sounds right. No need to read the comments. Reply 0
  • MrTomFTW 28/08/2014

    @Jonabob87 I wasn't talking about you. You'd be banned if I was.

    Your comment was deleted because of ad hominem.
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  • MrTomFTW 28/08/2014

    @OliverH Actually she covers that. You'll note those random side crimes against women are all sexual/domestic violence related, whereas all the ones perpetrated against men are gang related, blackmail and revenge based. Reply +2
  • MrTomFTW 28/08/2014

    Hello,

    Seems I need to remind people yet again that using gendered, homophobic, trans, racist etc slurs results in an instaban. No warnings, no exceptions.

    Thanks.
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  • MrTomFTW 28/08/2014

    @ollyn - try to avoid out-and-out insulting other users please. Reply +1
  • MrTomFTW 28/08/2014

    @LazyToad - you've wandered into libel territory there. Please stop. Reply 0
  • MrTomFTW 28/08/2014

    @Ajent The point is, you've got that 48% who are adult women, and all that is catering to them is the mobile market (and the likes of The Sims etc).

    The problem being is that part of the reason many of those adult women are not interested in the AAA scene is it's image of being violent/sexist/for boys. But no-one within that space is willing to take the chance and see if they can get a slice of the largest segment of game consumers by putting AAA titles out there that appeals more to them.

    Now I would never claim all of that 48% want to play AAA titles, and some may find it's the controls/price of a PC or console etc that puts them off, but the image problem is also a large part of that - they don't want to learn the controls or pay the money because why would they if all they're getting is games that don't represent them or appeal to them?

    "Capitalism isn't sexist" is the cry I've heard banded around these comments. It's true, and yet they're statistically the most numerous consumers of games and no-one is even attempting to welcome them in to the big-budget blockbuster games. It's baffling.
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  • MrTomFTW 28/08/2014

    @MCam435 You say that, but discussion generated by the Lego Boys Club video (along with a letter from a 7-year old girl) eventually prompted Lego to release that Female Scientist set.

    And it's a sell out!
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  • MrTomFTW 28/08/2014

    @MCam435 It's worth pointing out Anita Sarkaasian has done pieces on comics and film in the past. She's not picking on games :) Reply +5
  • MrTomFTW 28/08/2014

    @Ajent
    You said "They just tend to avoid AAA games. I wonder why?". I understood this comment to mean that you suggest a 48% population of gamers don't buy AAA games in support of your views aligned with Ms Sarkeesian. It seems fairly clear that is what you meant, although if you want to clarify go ahead, but then don't be so pedantic about others comments.
    Alright, clarification. Boys and young men are the biggest consumers of AAA titles because AAA titles are aimed squarely at them. The AAA titles are aimed at boys and young men because boys and young men buy them. Why is it other demographics don't buy them as much? Because of their content, some of which is highlighted by Anita, has given them a bad image with a lot of people outside of that demographic.

    Clear enough?

    With regards to 'identifying as a gamer' (which wasn't the POINT, but an example within my explanation), it is important to establish a persons reference and experience. I know absolutely naff all about football. I would not be able to offer any kind of valid debate about 'last weeks football game'.
    If you watched "last weeks football game" then you are a consumer of that product. Likewise if women play games, they are a consumer of that product whether they identify as gamers or not.

    I disagree with what you say about how it is only about who plays games and F2P games count.

    I don't think they do. Candy Crush, Clash of Clans, Angry Birds offer very little point of context in a debate such as this. So how do gamers who only have experience with such games offer any valid insight to games like Red Dead, Bioshock and Assassins Creed when they don't even know what those 'names' mean, let alone having actually played them?

    So no, F2P games and gamers don't count in a debate such as this. Either this is an important debate that needs to be discuss seriously, or it isn't. If you want to discuss it seriously then focus on the relevant aspects.
    No no no no and no. Mobile and f2p games are games by the very definition of game. They bring in millions in revenue (why do you think there's so much copying and cloning going on in the mobile market?) and are played all over the world on a large variety of devices by a large variety of people.

    YOU do not get to discount them because they do not fit YOUR argument.
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  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @Gibbet_Street_Slashr Will this do as an example of the threats? (NSFW)

    https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/504718160902492160
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  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @jimmhoo
    "lies"
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  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @BlueMuffin

    She will destroy gaming as we know it to further her agenda and increase her wealth, same as Jack Thompson tried to do.
    Oh my... Get over yourself.
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  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @lancashirered And another one completely missing the point. Look, it's even spelt out in the article:

    as Sarkeesian herself points out in the note accompanying every video, "it is both possible (and even necessary) to simultaneously enjoy media while also being critical of its more problematic or pernicious aspects"
    Feel free to enjoy the male power fantasies (I sure do). It doesn't make them perfect or free from critique.
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  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @dfernand Point completely missed. If you do cut your manhood off, it wouldn't be because of anything feminists do. Reply -2
  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @Mekah And then those men were used to characterise the woman as she kicked their arses with the greatest of ease :) Reply -4
  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @BlueMuffin Yeah, that was posted right at the top of the comments. It was bullshit then as well :)

    "Truth"... Gimme a break.
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  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @Ajent Ummm... It wasn't a measurement of "who identifies as a gamer" it's about who plays games. And mobile games are still games, you can't discount casual games or f2p games or whatever. They still exist, they still count. Reply -7
  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @Kaonazhie "confirmed" Reply -1
  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @Avaloner Well if you want to reduce to down to a base level, that may be one way of putting it. But we both know her argument and the discussion has more depth to it than that :)

    It's not so much she's telling them they're lazy - that would suggest she's telling them how to do, or not to do things. She's merely highlighting issues where things could be done differently to not fall into the same old traps.
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  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @Bickle2 You managed to be misogynistic AND racist in one post.

    I've deleted it. Don't do it again.
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  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @Avaloner No, I mean more like "Damsel In Distress", and the use of sexual violence (rape in particular) as a lazy way to show someone is evil. Things like that. Reply -1
  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @Avaloner I'll have to strongly disagree with that. I don't think that is debatable at all. You'd have to be in pretty deep denial to say that gaming doesn't use many sexist and misogynistic tropes. Reply +3
  • Saints Row 4 gets standalone expansion Gat out of Hell

  • MrTomFTW 29/08/2014

    I would much rather this be a full new Saints title :(

    I do approve of the name though!
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  • Xbox One snappable media player, Party updates roll out to preview members

  • MrTomFTW 29/08/2014

    mlky t support confirmed Reply 0
  • MrTomFTW 29/08/2014

    @Mun Mine makes tea now. You might want to check to see if there are any updates waiting for yours. Reply +5
  • Nintendo announces new 3DS and 3DS XL designs with extra buttons, improved CPU

  • MrTomFTW 29/08/2014

    The new Xenoblade game is only compatible with this new model by the way. Reply +15
  • The worst games I've ever played, by Ellie Gibson

  • MrTomFTW 28/08/2014

    Ellie! I once shook your hand!

    ...

    That's all I've got.
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  • id Software explains divisive Quake Live gameplay changes

  • MrTomFTW 28/08/2014

    Why does it need to be a modern shooter? It's QUAKE Live FFS.

    We have a zillion and ninety two modern shooters already, thanks.
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  • Forza Horizon 2 demo gets Xbox One release date

  • MrTomFTW 27/08/2014

    @Playstationman Don't get me wrong though. I'm feeling pangs towards the PS4 thanks to Driveclub as well.

    I'm not even a big "car person"!
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