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  • Peter Moore recounts $1.15bn Xbox 360 Red Ring of Death saga

  • MeBrains 04/07/2015

    @ClemFandango
    I'd normally take some time to reply, but I find it hard to argue your points son
    there, fixed that for you. ;)
    Reply -1
  • MeBrains 03/07/2015

    @AndrewLB
    Or how about an article about the huge failure rates with the PS3 "Fat" consoles single person I know who purchased the PS3 "fat" typically had a dead console soon aft
    every one of my friends had their PS3 kick the bucket
    that's not needed, really? They used a MS tool to create a BBC Watchdogs episode about it in which they had the grand total of five (5) machines out of hundreds of thousands sold to prove their "point".

    :)
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  • MeBrains 03/07/2015

    @ClemFandango
    It amazes me that Sony once again got away scot free when the launch PS3 was just as bad. My 60gb PS3 ylod on me after two years, you know what I got off Sony ? Fack all
    just as bad?! lol

    pretty sure that, if you'd have a thread about PS3 much similar to this one, there'd be few people stating they actually had more than one machine. In any way, not to the extent this one is rife with people stating they had more than one 360 - most even admitting double purchases "just in case".

    it is funny. with PS2's gen, Sony came out quite victorious. Even so, the company did not rest on its laurels and invested tons to give us top notch, genuinely innovative and forward-thinking hardware, together with free online and HW BC.

    How did the masses react? They invested in a machine which was not only one of the most ill-engineered products ever. They also happily paid for online and a lack of software variation.

    Result? No HW innovation this gen, no inclusion of forward-thinking tech, no more free online.
    Reply +1
  • MeBrains 02/07/2015

    oh... since we are reminiscing the days of old, we can now, on hindsight, also state that MS's 360 and its blind fan base, are to thank for the paid-for online this gen, as well as the lack of hardware innovation, the lack of inclusion of forward-thinking technology and the lack of HW BC - all of which Sony offered last gen.

    sony's last gen machine was "more expensive" indeed. :)
    Reply +1
  • MeBrains 02/07/2015

    @danger.to.others +1 from me though. Reply +2
  • MeBrains 02/07/2015

    and I keep on wondering what the real sales ratio of last gen looks like. to me it seems that most all 360 enthusiasts ended up buying more than one.

    So, out of roughly 80M sold, how much were second, third... purchases to the same person? Anybody has an idea, a guess, or a number?
    Reply +6
  • Watch Shuhei Yoshida talk Nuclear Throne PS4 date while eating a habanero pepper

  • MeBrains 30/06/2015

    @DwarfyP
    Tabasco is not hot by any means.
    I agree. Still, a lot of my friends, family and colleagues steer clear from it. Too spicy. In fact, there is hardly a restaurant here which serves food spicy enough to my taste.

    What I meant is: between Tabasco (I chose that because everybody knows it) and Habanero-chilis lies a HUGE difference in spiciness.

    So I still do not believe these are real, fresh habanero's or they'd squeak a different tune.

    Then again: maybe it is real. So what. It's a good show.
    Reply -1
  • MeBrains 30/06/2015

    I don't believe it can be habareno. Not a lot can eat that - not four in the same room (unless their Thai or Indian or...).

    Tabasco is experienced as "very hot" by a large part of the population and that's 20 times weaker than a fresh habareno.

    still. whatever the pepper, it's a good show.
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  • Sony: PS4 market share "frequently greater than 90 per cent in continental Europe"

  • MeBrains 30/06/2015

    @A_FAN it is indeed. and point two: to me, there hardly seems anything on MS's platform which looks worth playing, although Rare's newly announced game seems to tickle my fancy.

    As well as "one console is enough in myu household".
    Reply +2
  • MeBrains 30/06/2015

    @J0rdan_KZ
    That initial "always on DRM", TV, Kinect and sports stuff is still haunting them almost 2 years after their original announcement.
    to me personally, it still is their botched up, notoriously ill-engineered 360 hardware launch, as well as the community reaction to it, as well as their "1-billion warranty "extension"'s answer making me, nigh ethically, unable to ever buy a MS console again.

    that and the lack of (innovative) games I like to play like Ico, SotC, Ni No Kuni, TLoU...
    Reply +5
  • Don't hold your breath for PS4 backwards compatibility

  • MeBrains 19/06/2015

    @XbDf
    So why was the X1 cost to build was 3+ billion vs ps4 400 million?
    Laughing out loud! :D

    Have you ever wondered what 3 billion buys you?

    Here's some examples:

    20 of these:


    Four of these:


    2 of these:


    a few of these:



    if anything, the development of STI's brand-new Cell processor would have cost that much, including the construction of its specific factories. :)

    damn. some guys are gullible.
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  • MeBrains 19/06/2015

    @this article: well no shit. off course PS4 will not be able to do PS3 BC.

    cell was such powerful and specific technology that even N+1 hardware will have troubles to run it at decent speeds through emulation. having BC of PS3 on PS4 would need the integration of a Cell processor on PS4's motherboard, much like the initial, $599 version of PS3 had PS2's Emotion Engine on its board to provide it.

    Xbox doesn't have that "problem", as it has always gone for decidedly OTS components without any real hardware innovations.
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  • Sony's E3 conference: an artful blend of nostalgia and big business

  • MeBrains 16/06/2015

    @chuck_bone you forgot:
    - Nier
    - Rigs
    - Persona 5
    - Firewatch
    - Star Ocean 5
    - Shadow of the Beast
    - World of Final Fantasy
    - Heavy Rain & Beyond Two Souls

    ;)
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  • MeBrains 16/06/2015

    @FuntimeBen
    What you mean to say is that there are no original first-party games coming out this year for PS4, because there are TONS of third-party games coming out by the years end for the PS4 and XBox 1. Your hyperbole is silly.
    nonono. what I mean to say is that last year, there was this whole crowd fuming that there were no games for PS4 and that this year, according to the subtitle of this article, there will be none again!

    hence my deduction. There must be nothing to play on that machine!

    :|
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  • MeBrains 16/06/2015

    where's 2015's line-up?
    waw. that's actually a second year without games for PS4!

    there's nothing to play on that machine!

    :|
    Reply -37
  • Rare announces Sea of Thieves

  • MeBrains 15/06/2015

    Finally a game for Xbox I really would like to play if it turns out to be any good.

    Finally something which dares to be a bit different from that macho, gung-ho shooting shit the console is famous for.
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  • Halo 5: There's good news and bad news

  • MeBrains 10/06/2015

    @GeminiXLII I stand corrected then.

    It would have been very very strange.

    I wonder how I missed that... :/
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  • MeBrains 10/06/2015

    players won't need an Xbox Live Gold account for online co-op.
    to me this goes to show how incredibly much MS is banking on this franchise to pull in its fanbase. So, we need to pay for everything, but his old, albeit popular, franchise gets free online?

    myea... i prefer some diversity, instead of rehashes - however good they are...
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  • Here's your first official look at the 1TB Xbox One and tweaked controller

  • MeBrains 10/06/2015

    @dogmanstaruk
    This is actually my 2nd Xbox One. My launch unit died back in November (GPU artifacts), so this is actually a new replacement.
    waw. talking of bad luck!

    I mean, I am sure my C-64 would still boot, as does my master system, nes, mega drive, the original GB, the TI-99 (right?), the amiga etc etc I have here - as do the three PSX's.

    you're not entitled to warranty?
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  • MeBrains 09/06/2015

    @dogmanstaruk
    I'm in the market for a new Bone as my console died a while ago.
    it died?! how did that happen? and, given it wasn't released over two years ago and unless it was your own mistake, shouldn't you be entitled to a fix / replacement? EU (I know, UK is not entirely EU) is quite clear with it: warranty of two years unless clearly demonstratable the customer's fault. (honest question)
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  • MeBrains 09/06/2015

    there's a difference noticeable in the douchebag presenting this.

    Last gen he was all cocky and smug.

    This gen he is just a cock and he appears not to stand behind anything he says.
    Reply -1
  • Tech Analysis: Halo 3: ODST on Xbox One

  • MeBrains 06/06/2015

    @IronSoldier
    Do carry on in slyly seeking to present yourself as the voice of reason when, as anyone who's been here for some time knows, in reality you're a not so closeted Xbone cheerleader. Good day to you.
    I have the impression you are talking to the only person I have on my ignore list here. EG became a tiny bit better after that click.
    Reply +1
  • Video: The sex scenes of The Witcher 3 reviewed

  • MeBrains 06/06/2015

    @magneto
    Since when did EG resort to tabloid style "journalism"?
    they started in earnest somewhere last year! :)
    Reply +2
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider teaser trailer has a mountain to climb

  • MeBrains 01/06/2015

    @dogmanstaruk
    I've been down voted twice for simply stating there are games on the Xbone I want to play.
    lol. go cry me a river chapski.

    You know me, I, have been downvoted innumerable times only because I tried to state that we all have had customer support problems. With more companies than only one certain multinational! :rolleyes:

    then again. I am a "smug" apparently. Not a realist. Nor balanced.
    Reply -1
  • Halo 3: ODST Master Chief Collection release date spotted

  • MeBrains 30/05/2015

    @dogmanstaruk
    just can't let our readers know ODST is rolling out to MCC Xbox One owners.
    just as well that EG can't let its readers know that:
    - Andrew House will continue leading PS
    - Quantic Dream is about to come out with footage of its next game
    - New footage is available of Everybody has gone to the rapture (and a tiny bit of U4)
    - DC's long-announced PS+ version might be imminent
    - News information is known about Kill Strain
    - Non combat MMO "Wander" has new info for PS4 and steam
    - There's new DLC for DC
    - PS4 leads some countries by 80% to 20%

    and a few others...

    haha. I do indeed start to sound like a subjective "fanboy", while I tend to give credit where credit's due... :)
    Reply -5
  • MeBrains 30/05/2015

    haha... I knew that EG would make the exception to post this "news" over the weekend when I read about it this morning. Reply -3
  • PlayStation digital refund policy in spotlight on BBC's Watchdog tonight

  • MeBrains 29/05/2015

    @TrevHead hey trev, and I do not really want to sound like I am sticking up for Sony, but I do. all my posts in this thread only tried to point out that there isn't a single company which is not sick in the same bed and that a consumer show squarely setting its sights on one, smells awkward.

    but mentioning that is not done. In this thread, you only bitch at Sony. Let ago rationalism, reel in anti-sony sentiments - lest you be negged.
    Reply -1
  • MeBrains 29/05/2015

    funny. my horror consumer story is negged - although it was about things far worse than 40.

    seems like in this thread, you only get upvotes when you bitch about Sony.

    Apparently many of you believe this kind of customer service horror story only happens with the Japanese company.

    Plain untrue...

    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=412139
    http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/2j8dh6/xbox_one_customer_service_horror_story_i_need/
    http://hawtymcbloggy.com/2007/06/26/a-61-day-horror-story-dealing-with-microsoft-customer-service/
    http://www.gamespot.com/forums/xbox-association-1000003/horrible-customer-support-experience-long-story-25931061/
    https://yogizilla.wordpress.com/2008/01/06/xbox-live-horror-stories-for-2008/
    etc...

    oh well. keep the rose-tinted four eyes on! :)
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  • MeBrains 28/05/2015

    @FASELI Finally! An answer about the bigger picture, as all I read was "Sony this", "Sony that" without much nuance.

    I agree with you fully and it is one of the reasons why I disliked the "online only" policy MS tried to sell us this gen.

    I got one of these stories myself - be it non-games. I had my house installed with new windows and a new front door. My requirement was: "My domotics system needs to be able to close the door when I hit the 'all out' button in the bedroom." In front of me, they called the manufacturer, discussed about it and gave me the price of "100 additional cost". I bought and signed it with the vendor.

    Upon installation, I was informed that it was the system which is able to open the door remotely. I emailed them about it and they replied, black on white: "the manufacturer misunderstood. What you want it seems costs 1000 extra." I mentioned: "look, the contract between you, the vendor, and me, is clear. I do not deal with the manufacturer. Please install what we agreed to." They didn't - they informed me to go to court if I didn't agree which would have cost me headaches as well as a lot more. I didn't.

    So. To make a long story short. It is totally unfair to direct this only at Sony, which is what I reacted to. So many companies are guilty of the same practice. If this Watchdogs program only talks about ONE Sony customer, it is a joke. Much like it was back then addressing YLOD without even a mention of the "infinitely" more abundant RROD.
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  • MeBrains 28/05/2015

    @toythatkills
    I just told you there's more than one story on Watchdog.
    I hope there is indeed - and there will be. We all have been frustrated with some customer support in our lives. But that'll not only be Sony.

    Where did you get your information from?

    edit: read it. "One other guy?" so, two persons complaining? :D

    oh boy. they should be able to find thousands of customers. Sony customers, Apple customers, MS's, Asda's, HP's, Dell's, Corsair's - heck, even the grocery vendor on the local market probably has at least one discontented customer!

    :rolleyes:
    Reply -20
  • MeBrains 28/05/2015

    @spamdangled
    Are you really stupid enough to think that Watchdog did it on the back of a single complaint? Because that's pretty f*cking naive.
    Are there any plurals in this - or in the complete EG article?

    The report - set to air during this evening's show on BBC One at 8pm - was sparked by a customer that took the company to task for refusing to refund a purchase made after his account had been acknowledged as stolen.

    They aired the YLOD thing on the back of 20 (or 11? or 5?) consoles back in the day. That was on the back of around 0,00001% consoles of total sold.

    I guess some of you will see tonight. And I'll read about it tomorrow. ;)
    Reply -12
  • MeBrains 28/05/2015

    @obidanshinobi
    I'm sure Watchdog do a bit more research than taking one guys word for it.
    err...

    I would suppose they would indeed, but am I sure? Not really. ;)
    Reply -15
  • MeBrains 28/05/2015

    @toythatkills
    If you seriously think that "taken the appropriate action" is Sony not banning the console, then I recommend leaving Dream World and joining the rest of us here in the Real World.

    I know it's nice where you are, but you can't stay there forever.
    :rolleyes:
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  • MeBrains 28/05/2015

    also pretty amazing that this thread is rife with persons defending Watchdog's laughable call to action because of one customer complaint, while some of us here who forward an alternative take, are negged?

    Shouldn't you consider that maybe, just maybe this one person is the guy trying to get away with fraud?

    oh well. this attitude is one of the main reasons I tend to avoid commenting on EG more and more. It used to be fun here - as well as (more) objective and balanced.
    Reply -33
  • MeBrains 28/05/2015

    @toythatkills
    If it wasn't fraudulent, Sony wouldn't have banned the PS3 that made the purchase, would they?
    djezus. do you all lack basic reading skills?

    Please quote the line where they say they "banned the PS3"?!

    They only said: "We have taken the appropriate action against the console which made the purchase but unfortunately we cannot share the details of this console with you for security purposes."

    Maybe they sent a message warning them? Maybe they merely removed the credit card number?

    (Or is it somewhere in the telephone conversation?)
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  • MeBrains 28/05/2015

    One customer leading to a Watchdog broadcast?! LOL

    This One customer could just have logged in on another PS3, bought it, and then made a fuzz of it or am I mistaking?

    Also, Mr. Phillips, how do you deduct and state it actually is fraudulent? The emails, nor the phone recording indicate so. Where do you read confirmation that "it was somebody else"?!

    Sounds like the YLOD Watchdog farce all over again. Remember that? All 5 (!!) consoles were repaired by the incredible PlayStation Repair Action Team. haha. a good laugh after all these years. :D

    Reply -35
  • Rockstar launches BBC lawsuit over Grand Theft Auto drama

  • MeBrains 22/05/2015

    I'm sorry to say, but, concerning "news" the BBC is a biased and unreliable broadcasting corporation anyway while they undeservedly keep having a good name.

    to me, this seems to be yet another low point. They misuse their established but unreliable brand to try to get away with things they really should not.
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  • Performance Analysis: The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

  • MeBrains 20/05/2015

    The framerate of the PS4 version is certainly higher than that of the Xbox One verions if uncapped.
    .
    >> Rubbish. You don't know this. It is pure speculation and a deep desire to have it so.
    concerning that XB vs PS4 FPS "discussion" here.

    _should_ XB render at 1080p as PS4 does, there wouldn't even be that "discussion". Fact is that XB renders 40% less pixels than PS4 does and even then, it "struggles" just that bit more.

    And that's disregarding the completely overlooked inferior texture filtering on XB too.

    Can we deduct, given the abundance of 900vs1080p "proof", that PS4 indeed is 40% more powerful than XB is? - and that's an honest question for these EG members who "know".
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  • MeBrains 20/05/2015

    @Liuwil I am hardly simplifying it chaps.

    There's quite a few who supported Xbone's non-ownership because "they could just select new games without getting of the couch". Sony's inclusion of BR should have been supported by these very same persons.

    Cell was a _fast_ processor - specifically made for games consumers. Was it the best for games? No. But the intention and benevolence of Sony _was_ there. They went another way for us and invested billions (edit: not millions!), but "we" just didn't get it and (mostly Americans) pulled up their nose to it.

    360 started with an above-average GPU. Not at all cutting edge. Not like Cell's architecture was "cutting edge" - be it not the best for games.

    And that is all disregarding: hdmi (which was new), BT (which was new), WiFi (which was new), MemCard readers (the inclusion of which was new to consoles), HW BC (which was expensive).

    360 "challenged" high-performance rigs as much as PS4 is doing (to a _slightly_ lesser extent) now.

    We were two years in the generation back then and we were already seeing inadequate performance (compared to middle to high end pc's) back then as well.
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  • MeBrains 20/05/2015

    @Dizzy
    It could have been so much better if Sony or MS had invested some money in a real next gen system.
    exactly! like Sony did last time around!

    because packing your gear full of future-proof technology automatically results in better sales over the less forward thinking release!

    ...

    oh wait... :|
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  • Witcher 3 on Xbox One uses dynamic scaling to boost resolution

  • MeBrains 12/05/2015

    Yeah... I mentioned that idea to a certain Phil Harisson about 20 years ago in a bar in London while being on a press trip to see Rosco McQueen firsthand... He found it quite interesting... :D Reply -2
  • Xbox One voice messages now live in new system update

  • MeBrains 12/05/2015

    @TheEnforcer000
    Sunset Overdrive is far and away the best exclusive on any platform
    haha... you made me laugh. Cool. Keep it going. :D
    Reply -4
  • Face-Off: Project Cars

  • MeBrains 11/05/2015

    @Bush_Killa-73
    its never going to win against driveclubs excellent photo mode then I guess!!
    what do you mean? As far as I know, DC's photo mode uses the actual in-game renderings for its stills. They are not "improved" in any way just for the photo.

    I know, it does sound amazing given their quality. And the approach is entirely unlike FM5 and FH2's which implement copious amounts of improving for the still shot in comparison to their gameplay.
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  • MeBrains 10/05/2015

    @dbaaz
    The staircasing effect is called aliasing. This is remedied by a technique called as anti-aliasing, which is discussed in the article at length.
    oh noes! :rolleyes:

    a smartass.

    where exactly have you read about aliasing in function of the extremely noticeable artefact on Xbox's cars? Please quote the line from the article. I must have missed it.

    btw: the lack of anti-aliasing on xbox's cars is most apparent on the third-last image in the comparison tool, but very very noticeable in all others as well.
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  • MeBrains 10/05/2015

    no mention of the very apparent staircasing on cars visible on almost each and every single Xbox shot?

    it was the first thing I noticed... and I am not an expert... :/
    Reply +24
  • Report: Phil Harrison is leaving Microsoft

  • MeBrains 17/04/2015

    well. he stole my idea to get big within Sony... :| Reply +1
  • Xbox One UK price now 299.99

  • MeBrains 17/04/2015

    @cloudskipa
    How earth would Cell cope with crowds better than the X1 CPU (which already is faster than PS4) when we saw with our own eyes how well Cell coped last gen with such things, not particularly well either I might add. You guys live in dreamland.
    what I said was: What was the AC analysis a few months ago which had a chart showing how cell outdid even Xbone's processing power for crowds?


    it's here, slide 15: https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://twvideo01.ubm-us.net/o1/vault/gdceurope2014/Presentations/828884_Alexis_Vaisse.pdf

    so not "better", but the 10y old Cell-based hardware coped almost as good as the Xbone's, proving my point.

    Anyhows. Do please continue living in your dreamland. Believe what you want. Enjoy the steady stream of groundbreaking games like Halo, Forza, the new GoW and TR. ;)
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  • MeBrains 15/04/2015

    @cloudskipa
    The capabilities were grossly overestimated by Sony themselves and fanboys alike, when in reality it wasn't any more effecient or powerful than the Xenon
    What was the AC analysis a few months ago which had a chart showing how cell outdid even Xbone's processing power for crowds? Moreover, you are comparing a CPU to a GPU. :rolleyes:


    it's those same Sony fanboys who love to shout about the GPU power of PS4, yet no-one was talking like this about the Xenos vs RSX last gen were they! Despite a far wider disparity. No, instead it was all about "power of teh Cell".
    that "power of teh Cell" is entirely from your camp. Xbox fans dragged on about with a reference to "powah of da cell". In reality, most PS fans were far more down to earth stating: cell has its strengths and coupled with the (inferior to Xenos) RSX gave a machine which, when tapped right, could provide results 360 was not able to match.


    I think it's obvious who judged the market better there, Blu Ray was too new, too expensive and far too slow to be put into a console in 2006.
    You actually prove me right with that comment. Sony got whacked because of their choice to include TONS of forward-thinking tech and had to set the price accordingly. Dumb customers cast it aside like you apparently did too. If you do not support companies introducing new tech to consumer products, why did you buy Xbone then? Why have you the latest smartphone (I don't know if you have - it's a possibility)? Why DX12? Why any kind of evolution?! It's a asinine comment to make. Sony included HDMI - with 360 you had to buy an extra console. Sony included WiFi - with 360 either an adapter if I remember well or an extra console. Sony included Bluetooth - an impossibility with 360. etc.

    YLOD was a minor issue. Not anywhere near the levels of RROD. How much was it? 2%? 3%? Compared to 60% RROD?

    You stating you bought THREE 360's says enough really. Most 360 "fanboys" have bought as much, if I distill right.

    In fact, if you'd divide the sold-through by amount of same household renewal purchases, I think the installed base for 360 in the end much have been around half only of PS3's.

    oh and btw: never heard my son complain about PS3's online. It was not as piss-poor as you make it out to be and it was free. Given that 360 players were more than willing to pay for what ended up as an inferior value proposition (given PS+'s free excellent roster of free games), Sony logically followed suit. Charge for online. They'd be "judging the market incorrectly" if they'd not. :)
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  • MeBrains 14/04/2015

    @cloudskipa
    Both 360 and PS3 were of PPC architecture, the GPU/CPU in both consoles were custom silicon.
    hey skippy. with a comment like that, you call me "ignorant" while keeping a straight face? :)

    I have the impression you selectively ignored the fact that MS bought part of the Cell's design from IBM.

    And that you failed to register that Cell was one of the fastest CPU's on the market. In fact, it still could hold quite its own on specific tasks, which indeed are not really tasks which were immediately "fit for gaming purposes".

    I notice you ignore that BR became, although it was slower than the DVD of the nineties, the standard for movies (yes - thanks to PS3 as well - I'll give you that) while also having been responsible to ensure PS3 living throughout its life without having a single release on multiple discs, which were standard in the late 90'ies and early 00's.

    MS has continued a design which is not fit for purpose anymore. The eSRAM you seem to laud, is not even able to hold enough data to allow for smooth Full HD rendering. Indeed, one of the main problems with its design.

    Sony charged online, because customers have appeared more than willing to pay. A good "gamble" for them indeed. But quite unfortunate for customers.

    Competition is not always a good thing.


    btw: and speaking of 360 as being well-engineered. You forgot its 60% failure rate then? How many did you buy exactly skipsky?
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  • MeBrains 14/04/2015

    @lucky_jim
    last generation, I just wanted to play games that looked and played as good as they possibly could on a console. So I got a 360. This generation, I wanted the same thing, so I got a PS4*.

    I'm not sure why you think that's so heinous.
    Sony was massacred for all the wrong reasons, while its competitor was able to launch one of the worst engineered consumer products in history and was able to get away with without even so much of a scar. That makes the situation heinous.

    And thanks to that runaway success of said competitor, we are now stuck with mostly standard components, and we pay for online. Forever too - I don't think Sony will ever allow such a huge gamble again.
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