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  • Sorry, Microsoft, but you can't own Minecraft

  • FladgeMangle 14/09/2014

    That is without doubt the best article I have ever read on EG.

    8/10.

    ;-)
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  • David Braben says The Outsider "probably is gone for good"

  • FladgeMangle 11/09/2014

    A third person action game involving special agents gets canned?

    Anyone remember The Agency? Allegedly still in development but so far off the radar it may as well be dead.

    It's a conspiracy! The CIA are shutting down the agent games! Or the other one. The one that nabbed Edward Snowden.
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  • Robin Williams tribute spotted live in Warlords of Draenor beta

  • FladgeMangle 05/09/2014

    Nintendo should put a Robin Williams styled NPC character in the new Zelda.

    Because.. Well everyone knows because.

    Robin and Zelda

    I'm sure it's what he would have wanted.
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  • Face-Off: Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare on PS4

  • FladgeMangle 30/08/2014

    Hard to believe we're here again.

    PS4 ticks all the boxes the 360 used to over the PS3, yet DF find themselves unable to fully endorse it this gen.

    They had no problem last time when MS had the advantage.

    Once again we have to read excuses like "get it on XB1 if most of your buddies are on xbox live". Don't remember ever seeing the counter argument last gen.

    A higher resolution coupled with a better frame rate used to be the definitive conclusion of these face-offs.

    If you have muddy the waters and fuzz the data because this time your guys aren't winning, you have to seriously question your integrity.
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  • Atari is rebooting Alone in the Dark and Haunted House

  • FladgeMangle 20/08/2014

    I'm just hoping they bring back the Lovecraftian vibe from the original.

    Something super-spooky about his kind of horror. The way he tilted it as if it was real... Better than a thousand zombie stories any day.
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  • Xbox boss Phil Spencer makes case for Tomb Raider exclusivity deal

  • FladgeMangle 20/08/2014

    @Esppiral Plus one, but a little historical perspective will maybe sway you to my side of the argument.

    Sony haven't used money from another revenue stream to prop up their gaming division and used bribes to (attempt to) bully gamers into buying their products.

    Historically they used good old fashioned quality and creativity. They even managed a a slight global win last gen with an arguably less capable system in the "me-too" gaming era.

    Want a new system without all the shit? Going to buy a XB1 because MS paid for a mysteriously ill-explained exclusivity on a reasonably popular franchise that was - and I'm being fair here as a fan - historically poor but redeemed by a multi-plat reboot?

    MS will never have what Sony have. Microsoft are damaged goods. Fans may differ, but fans of Microsoft are... no words left.
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  • FladgeMangle 19/08/2014

    @Esppiral Been refreshing my memory of
    the '90s and early noughties games market and it's not as cut a dried as some people would like to think.

    Take for example Final Fantasy. Squaresoft back then were like Capcom is right now with Monster Hunter. They stuck to one system, one manufacturer. FFVII came to Sony from Nintendo (with much consternation) because the N64 was a cartridge system and couldn't handle the FMV. They stayed with Sony after that because that's what they did. Admittedly, Sony buying a large stake of the company certainly helped with later editions. Nevertheless, this is hugely different from just bribing an independent developer for a few months of sales trickery.

    The fantasy of TR exclusivity has been covered by me and others here.

    Most other PS so-called exclusives were also either a factor of prevailing market conditions or first party studios.

    The spectre of paid-for third party exclusives, including full games and/or timed DLC, didn't truly appear in abundance until the 360 era. Bought and paid for by your friendly neighborhood Microsoft.

    Look at when MS bought into the FFXIII franchise and got an inferior port (evidently through gritted teeth).

    The only exception that springs to mind previous to this was GTA. Nobody is talking about GTA. Nobody remember GTA being a Sony exclusive franchise during the PS2 era? Funny, everyone remembers the MS exclusive DLC from GTA4.

    Weird, right? Maybe it was because Nintendo wouldn't go near it and the xbox couldn't touch the PS2 sales-wise, but when MS re-booted the xbox brand (remembering that they callously killed the original) they forked out £50m for a piece of the GTA action.

    Same as this TR deal. Cynical cash for sales. Consoles aren't like fridges or cookers. People identify with them. If your console relationship is based on a bribe and a lie, who wins? Not you.

    So when you 'boneheads defend this shit by saying that Sony are the original bad guys and MS are just doing what they (Sony) previously did in the past, learn your gaming history.
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  • FladgeMangle 19/08/2014

    @Mr-Writer I think I agree with you, it's hard to tell. Here goes, see what you think.

    TR2 was released on the only viable console at that time. Same with TR3. The Saturn was dead, the N64 was cartridge based and (at the time) furiously inward-looking.

    TR:AOD was also released on the only viable console at that time (due to the tragic and untimely demise of the Dreamcast) and was so shit it lost Core the franchise.

    This situation is nothing like that. Some people might argue that right now the PS4 is in fact the only viable platform, based on units in peoples homes right now.

    It's hard to justify MS's actions here and it's not (necessarily) partisan to criticize it.

    People (mostly xboners) blame Don Mattick for the XB1's apparent failure to date, but the MS board approved his decisions. People also point to the amount of Sony exclusivity as a frame of reference and an attempt to bring balance to the argument. It's not that simple.

    Next gen game development is expensive. Even indie titles. Do you know how much work goes into creating a 1080p game? Even a 2D one? Devs choose the system most likely to make them money. XB1 isn't that system.

    Ring-fencing the next TR game is a desperate attempt by use of monopoly money to blackmail gamers by a company suffering their third multi-billion dollar console cash catastrophe in a row.

    Nothing more, nothing less.
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  • FladgeMangle 18/08/2014

    @cloudskipa To be fair, the old TRs (2-5) also were released on PC and TR2 was also on Mac OS.

    The only other console around at the time of TR2 that had any hope of shifting the 3D world around was the Saturn and that was already dying a sales death by then. It was never going to be on the fledgling N64, so really there was no other viable console but PS to play the game on.

    TR3 ditched the mac OS but kept a Windows version and TR4 and TR5 (or "Chronicles") also came out on the Dreamcast.

    It was a no-brainer to concentrate on the PS console version of TR2 back 1996. Hardly the same case here, is it? Where the XB1 is barely half as popular as the PS4. This is nothing less than cynical money-hatting by MS of the first degree.

    In short, you're wrong. But then what else is new?
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  • The Witcher 3 includes Gwent, a Hearthstone-esque card game

  • FladgeMangle 15/08/2014

    My son loves Hearthstone and has no idea it's got anything to do with WOW.

    I'm sure he'll like this too and will enjoy it while I play The Witcher 3 on PS4 (until TW3 gets a bit naughty and I have to pause it until after his bed time, like every other sodding game these days).
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  • FladgeMangle 15/08/2014

    My Nana used to live in Gwent. There's lovely on you! Reply +4
  • PS4 leads US console sales for seventh month running

  • FladgeMangle 15/08/2014

    @Liuwil Can't argue with that. Reply +2
  • FladgeMangle 15/08/2014

    @grassyknoll Agreed.

    PS1 and PS2 pissed all over the competition and we still got bucket loads of innovation and excellence. If anything, the PS3's struggle with the 360 actually reduced creativity.

    Good developers will compete against each other to find a niche in a one system market. Multiple, interchangeable systems tends to create a marketplace of diminishing clones.

    Microsoft does this, Sony copy it, Sony does that, Microsoft copy it. Nintendo does that, everyone copies it. Timed exclusivity and wanna-bee "now on your system - a bit" games damage the industry and creates a stale gaming environment.

    That's my experience of the last gen, anyway.
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  • Microsoft confirms Rise of the Tomb Raider Xbox exclusivity deal "has a duration"

  • FladgeMangle 13/08/2014

    @bigtechno I think it's more about how bad this deal is for Square Enix and the Tomb Raider brand. To nab exclusivity on such a vigorous IP for a system that has a comparatively small market share is worrying.

    From what's been said so far about it, the general reaction has been "well fuck it then". Hardly the reaction MS were after I'm sure.

    Even if every boner buys it, it'll still be an epic fail for the franchise as a whole. Silly, really.
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  • FladgeMangle 13/08/2014

    @Illusive_Man Yeah, they've got your back dude.

    Nothing at all to do with anything that's gone before at all. No, no. Blah blah blah shitty media centre, DRM, Kinect 2 essential, "power of the cloud" and let's not forget "balanced".

    I understand your pain. I was an early PS3 adopter. We suffered too, although nothing like as much as Digital Foundry would like you to believe.

    Just enjoy your gaming and stop trying turning it into a willy waving contest that you'll lose. Every time.
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  • FladgeMangle 13/08/2014

    @jcaspian No regrets. The Tomb Raider reboot was good - very good - much better that I thought it would be, but I'll not lose any sleep over missing out on the sequel.

    I'll not be bullied into buying an inferior system for one missable game (thus said the internet).

    Maybe I have anger at the transparent and laughably inept attempts of Microsoft to dupe it's fans.

    I'd be angry if MS bought Naughty Dog. You can have that :-P
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  • FladgeMangle 13/08/2014

    @Illusive_Man Oh dear. "fans requested"? You serious think it was altruism on Microsoft's part that undid all the wrongness of the XB1 reveal? Not, perhaps, the 2:1 sales disadvantage?

    You think this horribly backfiring and embarrassing deal isn't the act of a company in continuing damage limitations mode?

    I'm sure you'll be having a lot of fun with your XB1 from now until the next generation comes along - and rightly so - but for fuck's sake stop being such a myopic fanboy about it, it's embarrassing.
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  • FladgeMangle 13/08/2014

    @Illusive_Man You are a very strange person.

    No normal person uses the words "hotly requested" without sarcasm. Do you work in marketing?

    People continue to bring up Don Mattick because it was a clusterfuck. people continue to bring up the kinect 2 u-turn because it was a clusterfuck.

    People continue to mock the "TV TV TV" thing because it was a clusterfuck.

    No matter what stance you have on the current state of the Xbox One, all of that happened and it was people's reaction to it that turned things around. Doesn't stop it being a clusterfuck of clusterfucks.

    Like this thing right here, the thing this thread is about.
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  • FladgeMangle 13/08/2014

    @Illusive_Man You're missing the point i-man.

    Did I not say the xbox360 years were brilliant for Microsoft? Read the words. Butt hurt? No, I'm fully lubed.

    Ever since since the xbone's first announcement it has been one clusterfuck after another. Policy change after policy change, "essential" features and peripherals removed without apology and now this wholly unpopular PR disaster.

    I never said they were evil. Just stupid.

    BTW No Man's Sky is a PS4 exclusive funded by Sony. But yay and whoo-hoo to Sunset Overdrive. I'm sure it'll be great.
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  • FladgeMangle 13/08/2014

    Nobody does clusterfucks like Microsoft does clusterfucks. They're making Sony circa 2006 look like complete clusterfuck amateurs.

    After all their brilliant Xbox360 years, it's like they've gone doo-lally serious for the clusterfuck medal.

    Achievement unlocked : Respect = 0% (gold).

    It's as if they're trying to turn buying an Xbox One into a stigma.
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  • FladgeMangle 13/08/2014

    @Pasco I un-negged you out of the red there fella, but to say Sony has nothing exciting to offer is disingenuous at best.

    There could be a very long list of innovative and/or world beating titles here, but I'm already bored with you :-P

    Edit - Sorry, my solitary plus one wasn't enough to stop the flood. Shame, I thought the first part of your post was amusing :-)
    Reply +11
  • It's time for your latest update on The Last Guardian - again

  • FladgeMangle 13/08/2014

    @Kilboy genuine bellylaugh at that. Thanks! :-) Reply 0
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider is coming to both Xbox One and Xbox 360

  • FladgeMangle 13/08/2014

    Phil Harrison might get a big phat bonus I suppose...

    Bad for gamers, undoubtedly bad for Squeenix and given the backlash, not that great for Xbox either.
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  • FladgeMangle 13/08/2014

    Kind of like good news, but on opposite day.

    I can't see how anyone is going to benefit significantly from this deal.
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  • Microsoft details Xbox One updates rolling out - including USB media support

  • FladgeMangle 12/08/2014

    All USB devices are critically flawed Reply -26
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider exclusive to Xbox One

  • FladgeMangle 12/08/2014

    "Our friends at Microsoft have always seen huge potential in Tomb Raider and have believed in our vision since our first unveil with them on their stage at E3 2011"

    Confusion there with "always" and "three years ago". Also, dubious use of the word "friends".

    What is most worrying about this is the blatant use of Windows money to prop up the failing xbox division. Again. I expect we'll see more of this as long as the 'bone remains the least popular system. Maybe even later today.

    I'm pointing an accusing finger at Phil Harrison over this. He was the one who made exclusivity the Raison d'Ítre for Playstation and now - surprise surprise - it's happening again on the xbone.

    It wont work this time Phil, you did too good a job the first time round.
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  • Face-Off: The Last of Us Remastered

  • FladgeMangle 29/07/2014

    I guess we've reached the stage where it's more a case of performance evolution rather than revolution. The transition between PS1 and PS2 was as wide as the sky and there was a similar gap between PS2 and PS3. Same with Xbox (..er... zero?) and the 360.

    Here we see arguably the best looking game on PS3 improved noticeably on PS4, but not by an amount that will silence the cynics. Haters gonna hate. Personally I think it's great. I'll be buying it once I'm back home from holiday in 2 weeks.

    However, with these remasters it's more like buying a new graphics card and some extra RAM rather than a whole new eye-popping generation shift.

    Which is pretty much what this gen is all about.

    I'm OK with that.
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  • Shadow of Mordor release date moved forward

  • FladgeMangle 25/07/2014

    "Immortal" - that's the one thing Tolkien got wrong.

    His elves weren't immortal, despite being described as such, they were ageless. During the books and subsequent films they were dropping like flies. Only the ones who took the boat ride to the West could be called truly immortal.

    Obviously I need to get out more.
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  • Frontier's drive to make Elite: Dangerous on PC future proof

  • FladgeMangle 17/07/2014

    @Uncompetative I can imagine a world where Elite wouldn't even be talked about today, because Braben and Bell wrote it for the BBC micro but with the Acorn Archimedes in mind...

    As it turned out, it was a miracle of miniaturisation and rightly became a gaming legend.

    How people change! Future proof over present day reality proof? Not going to work for a lot of their kickstarter backers.
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  • Destiny Xbox One beta won't be 1080p, but the final version will

  • FladgeMangle 17/07/2014

    @NYKilla80 Indeed!

    I watched the comparison video of the PS3 and PS4 versions The Last Of Us and I had to squint to see the differences. That's between console generations, let alone two systems with only a geek's width between them.

    The Japanese are saying there's no point to this gen yet and that's why the PS3 is still outselling it's successor. Can't say I disagree.

    I bought a PS4 at launch and use it for FFXIV (because the upgrade was free), Tomb Raider (because I never bought the last gen version) and iPlayer (because it's faster).

    It's not gathering dust, but that's only because I dust it. All of the games I'm looking forward to most are coming out next year.
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  • FladgeMangle 17/07/2014

    I really don't think it'll matter that much either way. I'm sure the game will look great and play the same whatever they end up managing to do with it on XB1.

    Clickbait. (Which I obviously fell for.)

    I'm sure it won't stop the inevitable face-off, which to save time I've summarised below.

    1. High end PC
    2. PS4
    3. Xbox One
    4. Xbox 360
    5. PS3

    If there's a WiiU version, it'll slot in between the xboxes I expect.

    The thing is, anybody who owns just one of those systems will not give two short shits.

    If they want Destiny, they'll buy Destiny, whatever the current flavour of compromises. Be they screen resolution, framerate, screen tear, anisotropic filtering, AA methodology or whatever blah-de-blah blah technobabble fits this week.

    Plenty of people will comment though and trolls will ... troll. Bring sandwiches ;-)
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  • David Braben explains Elite: Dangerous £100 premium beta

  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @UncleLou There are 3-4 on that link alone. Not entirely sure what Dreadnought is yet. Despite this, that's at least three without even mentioning EVE Online.

    How is this your point? There are a number of up-and-coming sandbox space flight trading and combat game incoming right now. Which is pretty much the opposite of what you implied.

    Being an indie team an issue here? Not sure why you would bring that up.

    From what we've all been seeing and reading here on this very site, No Man's Sky is potentially more ambitious even than Elite, despite the team's size and their unwillingness to milk expectant players of their cash.

    Also, the other kickstartered space sim isn't currently charging £100 for pre-release access.

    Maybe now it will once it becomes playable, seeing as the consensus appears to be that it's fine to do so.


    Which is my worry and my point.
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  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @PlugMonkey Plus one because of my faux pas. Reply +1
  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    I'm dropping the mike. Hopeless cause. I'll just leave you with this -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0vAcnqmOts

    Skip to 8m45s.
    Reply -1
  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @UncleLou http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2014/07/07/many-space-games-around-right-now Reply -2
  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @FladgeMangle Should say that when I say "don't buy this crap" I don't mean Elite: Dangerous.

    I mean the dangerous trend of charging monopoly money for something just because you can.
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  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @Lancezh Literally my point. Thanks!

    Don't buy this crap.
    Reply -6
  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @PlugMonkey You really don't see it?

    Try to think of it in terms of a market where there are ONLY Breitling watches.

    There is only one Elite: Dangerous. Braben is basically telling you that it's a Breitling of a game and I'm arguing that it isn't.

    Before long, if he gets his way - which by the trending on this tread he already has - all games will be Breitlings.
    Reply -5
  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @scoop As the argument goes, nobody forced you to read this thread. Reply -5
  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @paulf Not my point.

    Fan, backer, consumer with a concern.
    Reply -4
  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @PlugMonkey Yes, that's right. Because every FPS is precisely the same as any other apart from the name and there are literally millions of them to choose from and they all do exactly the same thing.

    Don't dumb down the argument. You know what I meant.

    In a market of limited products, it's - pardon the pun - dangerous to endorse a policy where manufacturers of said products are allowed to charge whatever they want if they believe demand will be high enough.

    That is what is happening right here, right now. No more, no less.

    Personally, I'm not a fan of it.
    Reply -6
  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @PlugMonkey Games industry is not a free market, it's a closed system.

    You want a watch? Buy any watch. You want Call Of Duty? You pay Activision whatever they want. There is no choice.
    Reply -4
  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    Now I see it.

    Now I see why people nod wryly when the hear the song "The Emperor's new clothes" instead of immediately dismissing it and preposterous.

    May as well go down fighting... You're all turkeys voting for Christmas, one born every minute, never give a sucker an even break.

    I've already said I backed the kickstarter, I already said I was an Elite fan. What I'm not a fan of is being ripped off. Why is that point of view so hard to appreciate?

    Are you all so blinded by the luminescence emanating from Braben's arse?

    You. Are. Not. Getting. value. From. This.

    Is Elite: Dangerous is a success, what will happen is that all future AAA games will get a lot more expensive and we will be charged in advance to playtest them (read "early access"). Studios cut costs, make more profit and consumers will be asked more and more to pay a premium to receive what they were already getting at retail prices for tested games.

    It's bad enough that unfinished products are shipped with day-one patches. This is through the looking glass compared to that.

    How will you feel about the final product when you've already spend months playing the unfinished, buggy version? Will you enjoy it as much? You happily defend (with a bizarre arrogance) paying to eat the cookie dough only to be too full to enjoy the cookies.

    I give it ten minutes before this is unreadable without a click.
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  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @PlugMonkey No, £100 is it's COST, not it's value.

    The VALUE of a product is be determined by it's WORTH.

    No video game in history has ever been worth £100.

    If we accept this, it will only get worse for all gamers. Do you think EA and Activision aren't watching this?

    This game in particular would sell itself based entirely on what it's striving to reproduce. Braben knows he would recoup his costs and turn a healthy product of he charged a fraction of the price he's asking for.

    This is fanboy exploitation, pure and simple.
    Reply -8
  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @UncleLou Excuse me, but how is this even remotely close to trolling?

    Independent games developer has a policy that I find offensive and you name my response thusly?

    Trolling is insulting or belittling users because their views don't coincide with your own. You sir, you are the one skirting the boundaries troll camp.

    Frontier are no sacred cow to be admired without question. The policy of charging money - however much it may be - for beta access is wrong. Especially wrong to be asked to do it after already forking out for the kickstarter campaign.

    I may be raining scorn on the subject of your devotion, but that doesn't make me a troll. If you want to swallow this crap, that's your choice.

    Personally, I'm against the future of the pay-per-bug development business model that this is heralding.
    Reply +1
  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    @MaxiSleep You're not seeing the bigger picture.

    I'm angry because this exists. This is wrong and if we don't protest against it, it will become the norm.

    I for one will shout from every rooftop against that eventuality.

    I don't care about the retail game and expansions. I don't even want the sodding thing any more.
    Reply -15
  • FladgeMangle 11/07/2014

    Going to have to join the "low scoring comment hidden" people here.

    Milking your fanbase for £100 a pop to playtest your game is a disgrace. Braben is not the sainted old school hero he likes to think he is. He's just a smug, greedy a bastard for pulling this stunt. Bring back Ian Bell!

    I'm a big Elite fan and day one backer of Elite: Dangerous, but this is taking the piss. It also sets a dangerous precedent for future games development from all sources. Don't be mugs, just say no.

    I'm amazed the gaming community isn't giving him a massive "fuck off" over this. Instead we're getting the people on this forum who are against it negged into silence.

    Utterly appalling. I want my kickstarter money back.
    Reply -17
  • How strong exactly is PlayStation's 2014 line-up?

  • FladgeMangle 09/07/2014

    @blade2333 Right now I'd put that in the "if ever" category.

    Great tech, diaphanous game. We could well be looking at another The last Guardian situation.
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  • FladgeMangle 09/07/2014

    @jabberwocky $75..? :-P Reply 0
  • Microsoft offers select Xbox 360 users $75 rebates for buying Xbox Ones

  • FladgeMangle 09/07/2014

    @PearOfAnguish Totally isn't. New consoles are usually alluring all by themselves.

    To backtrack repeatedly on hardcore policies and then introduce price cuts and to offer bribes... Not normal for a brand new console.

    Not normal at all.
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