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  • urban 20 Nov 2013 08:52:21 10,945 posts
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    Boris considering banning cyclists wearing headphones

    Speaking on BBC London radio on Tuesday, Johnson said headphones were an "absolute scourge" and it was "absolutely nuts" to wear them while cycling. He said: "I'm very alarmed about cyclists wearing headphones. I would not be against a prohibition or ban on cyclists wearing headphones. Call me illiberal, but it makes me absolutely terrified to see them bowling along, unable to hear the traffic."
    and I agree with him
  • FWB 20 Nov 2013 08:53:32 44,668 posts
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    Agree too. It's moronic.
  • Megapocalypse 20 Nov 2013 09:22:29 5,443 posts
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    Whilst I agree, surely the same would have to apply to drivers and loud music.
  • Dougs 20 Nov 2013 09:25:04 68,059 posts
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    Which is probably exactly why it's been left well alone....
  • elstoof 20 Nov 2013 09:33:27 7,516 posts
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    I wouldn't ever cycle with headphones and wouldn't recommend anyone does either, but I'd be interested to hear some statistics on how many incidents have occurred with headphone use cited as a major factor. Disconnecting yourself from your surroundings obviously seems a bad a idea but banning things just because they seem like a bad idea isn't the way forward in my view.
  • Megapocalypse 20 Nov 2013 09:39:05 5,443 posts
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    I suppose it depends on how loud you have them really. I used to listen to music whilst cycling (I don't any more) and don't think I ever had them so loud I couldn't hear a car behind me or sirens approaching etc.

    On reflection I don't think banning something just because it's stupid is a valid reason. I'd want to see a proven link between headphones and accidents.
  • MikeP 20 Nov 2013 09:46:22 1,885 posts
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    The evidence is important, otherwise we're into legislating on prejudice.

    Personally I want every sense I have available to help me stay safe, so I don't wear headphones, but it's a proper can of worms. Do you ban people who are hearing impaired, have only one good eye, etc, etc?

    Coroner's reports are often sources of information about this. From what I've read the majority cause of collisions between bikes and cars are the driver "didn't see" the bike. Now that might be because they weren't visible, or the driver didn't look.

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  • Megapocalypse 20 Nov 2013 10:03:20 5,443 posts
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    Well yes, making something illegal doesn't automatically mean people will take any notice.
  • Megapocalypse 20 Nov 2013 10:12:59 5,443 posts
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    When I was in uniform, if I saw someone on their phone they would get a ticket. The problem is that the legislation means that only officers in uniform can stop and give out those tickets and most people will see us and get off the phone before we see them. Combine that with the fact that officers are generally far to busy going from call to call to be giving out tickets anyway.
  • Salaman 20 Nov 2013 10:45:52 19,139 posts
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    I cycle with headphones on all the time. It's a leisurely stroll into town from my place, taking 10 minutes and it's not all that busy and the traffic streams aren't all that complicated. Just a normal one lane each way street, streetcars, 1 or two classic intersections with red lights.

    If I were to head into London traffic with multiple lanes, busy roads and massive roundabouts like the one near Hyde park corner for example I definitely wouldn't. Seems like a good way to get yourself killed.
  • urban 20 Nov 2013 12:02:21 10,945 posts
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    Should be something adopted by cities, small towns really don't have to worry about it. I could cycle from A to B on the wrong side of the road in my home town and not encounter one bit of traffic.

    Saying that, my worst bicycle accident was listening to Slipknot, powering away, chain snapped, balls hit the top tube, feet dragging along the ground. Bike flipped, face first into the pavement with my bike and legs going over the top of me. Lucky I put my hands out to save my face!
  • elstoof 20 Nov 2013 12:06:54 7,516 posts
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    Serves you right for listening to Slipknot.
  • Psychotext 20 Nov 2013 13:33:05 54,309 posts
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    Aye, it does certainly seem deserved.
  • urban 20 Nov 2013 14:17:24 10,945 posts
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    I was 18, who wasn't a prick when they were 18?
  • Psychotext 20 Nov 2013 14:24:22 54,309 posts
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    Me, I was an ultracunt.
  • OptimusPube 20 Nov 2013 22:13:56 3,072 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Me, I was an ultracunt.
    Still are. ;)

    You better watch out.
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  • Psychotext 21 Nov 2013 01:02:55 54,309 posts
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    How very dare you.
  • caligari 23 Nov 2013 08:08:17 17,061 posts
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    urban wrote:
    Should be something adopted by cities, small towns really don't have to worry about it. I could cycle from A to B on the wrong side of the road in my home town and not encounter one bit of traffic.

    Saying that, my worst bicycle accident was listening to Slipknot, powering away, chain snapped, balls hit the top tube, feet dragging along the ground. Bike flipped, face first into the pavement with my bike and legs going over the top of me. Lucky I put my hands out to save my face!
    Ouch - I always think about your poor face whenever I cycle over the top of a drain/manhole cover.
  • caligari 23 Nov 2013 08:10:17 17,061 posts
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    On a separate note (and one that does not involve Urban's face) - any recommendations for road bike mudguards (or at least 'crud catcher'-type guards)?

    I've used Ass-Savers on my other bikes - great for surface water, but it doesn't stop you getting a soaking when it's raining.

    I have no eyelets on my road bike - I've used the Crud mudguards and found them to be rather irksome (small brushes that rub against the rub of each wheel).

    I swap this thing between my single-speed bikes, but I find it to be a little too cumbersome for a road bike.

    Edited by caligari at 08:16:30 23-11-2013
  • Megapocalypse 23 Nov 2013 09:51:33 5,443 posts
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    I've only tried the Crud ones which like you, I disliked due to them rubbing on the wheels. I just get wet.
  • elstoof 23 Nov 2013 09:51:50 7,516 posts
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    SKS Race Blades are what you need. Much more robust than Cruds.
  • Psychotext 23 Nov 2013 11:18:11 54,309 posts
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    Odd ride yesterday. Everything felt scary fast but I knew that I was actually going really slow. Third best times on these trail sections... which is just awful. Bleh.
  • skiplevels 23 Nov 2013 19:07:10 524 posts
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    85 miles today in frrrrrreeezzzzing conditions

    some gorgeous views tho up the side of loch lomond
  • skiplevels 23 Nov 2013 19:07:36 524 posts
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    that headphones thing's the only time I've ever agreed w/boris
  • OptimusPube 23 Nov 2013 19:32:46 3,072 posts
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    caligari wrote:
    On a separate note (and one that does not involve Urban's face) - any recommendations for road bike mudguards (or at least 'crud catcher'-type guards)?

    I've used Ass-Savers on my other bikes - great for surface water, but it doesn't stop you getting a soaking when it's raining.

    I have no eyelets on my road bike - I've used the Crud mudguards and found them to be rather irksome (small brushes that rub against the rub of each wheel).

    I swap this thing between my single-speed bikes, but I find it to be a little too cumbersome for a road bike.
    I've thought about mud guards but they look shit and ugly on road bikes so haven't bothered, I just get a good soaking, on my commute to work I just wear waterproofs. Can you not get waterproof cycling shorts/trousers?

    Edited by OptimusPube at 19:40:27 23-11-2013

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  • Psychotext 23 Nov 2013 22:09:46 54,309 posts
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    Goddamnit. I fixed the issue with my gears but on closer inspection of my bike I think my rear hub is screwed.

    I had new wheels on the shopping list but I didn't want to rush it with Christmas spending coming. :(
  • MikeP 26 Nov 2013 22:15:41 1,885 posts
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    There are photographers at the London X League CX races. Here I am, riding like I stole it :D



    Really liking racing. Bloody hard work, but excellent fun and a good vibe.

    Edited by MikeP at 22:16:12 26-11-2013

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