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  • Vortex808 30 Jul 2013 10:35:07 7,211 posts
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    Rhythm wrote:
    Hardrocks are great, I have an old one in the loft. Bomb-proof frames, very fun ride
    I second this. I still have mine after a good 10-12 years I guess, and really like it.

    The only thing I might change is trying to get some slick tyres for it, since I rarely go on any serious trails these days and if I get some time to myself I am far more likely to just head round town, or a quick jaunt into the country on it.

    I do have my road bike for that too, but sometimes a nice pootle about and exploring various dirt paths is fun, so I'd like something that could cope with both.
  • andytheadequate 30 Jul 2013 10:40:51 8,218 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    Wooo cycle to work voucher has finally been posted.

    In the interim, I've changed my mind again and am now leaning towards a specialized hardrock MTB.

    I think it would be more fun to ride than a hybrid recreationally and tbh I wonder whether ill actually ever work up the courage to actually ride into central London on a working day.
    Where do you plan to ride? It's only worth getting a mountain bike if you plan on riding off road, and if you live in a city that probably means putting the bike on a car and driving somewhere to ride it. It's also an expensive hobby. With road biking you at least save money on the commute, but no such luxury for mountain biking. Still, can't recommend mountain biking enough if you plan on going down that route, nothing can beat it for the sheer fun
  • THFourteen 30 Jul 2013 13:49:51 33,601 posts
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    Well this is the thing, i live in Twickenham, so SW london. I'd love to cycle all the way to work but by the time you get into waterloo it all gets congested and scary with non existent cycle paths and lorries. I don't think i'll ever cycle all the way to work TBH.

    Which means i'll end up using my bike recreationally, after work, or weekends, to cycle around town, some of the parks and trails. Maybe i can be persuaded to go further afield if i get confident, but i dont have a car so it would be cycling distance.

    My thinking is the hardrock looks nice and sturdy and i like the big tires on the MTB seeing as i haven't ridden for over 10 years, plus it looks like it can handle bunny hops and potholes! But i wonder if i am rulling out long journeys by picking that one. The other option i'm thinking of is a specialised crosstrail

    But as elstoof says, maybe i should just find which one is smaller in the loft ;-)
  • Load_2.0 30 Jul 2013 13:57:53 19,353 posts
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    I had not ridden a bike in years and I now do the comute from Ealing to St Pauls. The roundabout at She Bu and the multiple lanes in the city really are not to bad after a few rides.

    The traffic is relatively slow at peak times and you are surronded by other cyclists so you soon learn how to navigate your way around.
  • elstoof 30 Jul 2013 14:41:48 7,504 posts
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    Confidence is the key, if you aren't confident then you'll have a nightmare of a time. You could try a few recce rides by getting the train partway then hiring a Boris Bike for the journey through London, you'll soon know if you'll be confident doing it every day or not, then decide on the bike for your needs.
  • MikeP 30 Jul 2013 14:45:12 1,880 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    Well this is the thing, i live in Twickenham, so SW london. I'd love to cycle all the way to work but by the time you get into waterloo it all gets congested and scary with non existent cycle paths and lorries. I don't think i'll ever cycle all the way to work TBH.

    Which means i'll end up using my bike recreationally, after work, or weekends, to cycle around town, some of the parks and trails. Maybe i can be persuaded to go further afield if i get confident, but i dont have a car so it would be cycling distance.

    My thinking is the hardrock looks nice and sturdy and i like the big tires on the MTB seeing as i haven't ridden for over 10 years, plus it looks like it can handle bunny hops and potholes! But i wonder if i am rulling out long journeys by picking that one. The other option i'm thinking of is a specialised crosstrail

    But as elstoof says, maybe i should just find which one is smaller in the loft ;-)
    I think you'll get more out of something other than an MTB. I always seem to suggest cyclocross bikes, but they are incredibly flexible. Fast on the road with slick tyres, pretty capable off-road when ridden on knobblies.

    Also, check to see if your local borough offers adult bikeability courses. They can be incredibly useful when it comes to learning how to deal with traffic/good road positioning etc. The missus did one, and it transformed her levels of confidence. She commutes North London to the South Bank every day by bike now.

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  • mal 30 Jul 2013 16:14:08 22,605 posts
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    I used to work in Waterloo, and cycle in all the time. I found a quite quiet route which was good while I was learning, with the only busy bits being the Vauxhall oval, and coming along Baylis Road from Westminster Bridge Road to the bottom corner of Waterloo station. There's a cycle lane all the way down Baylis Road though so its not bad if you just go from end to end. There's a filter lane and an advance stop box at the front, although the filter lane appears in between the left turn lane and the straight on lane, and there are taxis coming in and out of Spur Road all the time, but everything's going quite slowly so it's not really any bother.

    On the other hand I messed up trying to go round the oval a few times, specifically where I would try to continue right round the top (while the inner ring road carries on north west off the top). In that case I'd pull over and use the pedestrian crossing to cross over and then come down the road and turn left. The trick when turning right there in one go, as in a lot of places is to indicate almost as soon as you get on the oval, then, when it's safe, switch over to the middle of the road and let traffic pass you on your left, so you only have to worry about one set of traffic coming towards you when you come to the actual junction.

    In your case, the pavement all along the A3 between richmond park and wandsworth is mixed use, though once you get to Wandsworth it's the dreaded one-way system and it's pretty busy, so you might need to work out something there, at least while you're learning.

    All in all, doing Twickenham to Waterloo is a fair old distance while you're learning. Took me a while to build up to those sort of distances. I didn't do any bikeability courses or anything else - just got on my bike and started cycling. First couple of weeks just round the block and around the park till I got the bike set up properly and got my balance. First couple of months I got a couple of irate motorists beeping at me for being in their way and being too slow, but I got the hang of it quickly enough.

    As MikeP says, for those sort of roads I'd suggest no suspension and slick tyres, making it easier to get up the hills and quicker to scoot down the other side. Mind you, that's my setup too, so I may be biased. Dunno about the parks on your doorstep, but Richmond park is tarmac all the way round.

    Edited by mal at 17:29:28 30-07-2013

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

  • Load_2.0 30 Jul 2013 16:28:27 19,353 posts
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    Yeah as a noob you will occasionally need to jump off the bike if you mess up trying to get in a lane or across a junction.

    I have mastered the stop and stare at my bike technique. As though investigating some technical glitch with the gears. It is about as obvious as you can get but makes me feel better about being an obvious knob.
  • andytheadequate 30 Jul 2013 17:18:36 8,218 posts
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    Mountain bikes are brilliant fun, but on roads it is like riding through treacle compared to a road bike. Unless you plan on riding off road, go for a road bike, or maybe a hybrid/cyclocross
  • THFourteen 30 Jul 2013 19:13:48 33,601 posts
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    Sigh. Ok then I'll go for the crosstrail. Or the Giant Roam 3, also looks good, and the fork has a lockout, and the tyres are a little wider than the crosstrail too

    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bikes/model/2013.giant.roam.3/11844/56844/

    It's not red :-(

    Edited by THFourteen at 21:09:09 30-07-2013
  • OptimusPube 2 Aug 2013 14:46:48 3,071 posts
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    Check out this dickhead.

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  • mal 2 Aug 2013 16:26:00 22,605 posts
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    ...the fuck is he doing?

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

  • Psychotext 4 Aug 2013 11:36:43 54,301 posts
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    Hmm. Looking to try and hire a CX bike for a little challenge I've got going on at the end of the month but it seems that pretty much no-one does it.

    Mountain bikes (of pretty much any expense), easy, clunkers for pootling around the tourist areas on... simple. Decent road / CX bikes? Apparently no chance.
  • FWB 4 Aug 2013 11:39:47 44,657 posts
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    Recommendations for gloves and toe clips? Want something that I can use with regular shoes and won't ruin them.
  • FWB 4 Aug 2013 11:41:11 44,657 posts
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    OptimusPube wrote:
    Check out this dickhead.
    Some cyclists really do give the rest of us a bad name. Wanker.
  • FWB 4 Aug 2013 11:44:53 44,657 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    Sigh. Ok then I'll go for the crosstrail. Or the Giant Roam 3, also looks good, and the fork has a lockout, and the tyres are a little wider than the crosstrail too

    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bikes/model/2013.giant.roam.3/11844/56844/

    It's not red :-(
    I bought a Tricross based on recommendations on here and very, very, very happy with it. Thicker tyres and wider folks mean you can easily take it off road. The drop down and lightweight frame mean you can bomb along on roads. Get the previous year's model and save yourself 400 quid. Paid 550 iirc at the Specialized store, after asking them to price match it online.
  • THFourteen 4 Aug 2013 13:01:16 33,601 posts
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    Too late, picked up my crosstrail yesterday! Chatted to the guy in the store, and he recommended it, and I was already considering it so seemed like a no brainer after a wee test ride.

    Went out for an hour today before I killed myself going up a hill and my hangover kicked in. Was fun, wasn't too nervous on roads, although I did stop and use various pedestrian crossings to turn on occasion.

    Need to read up on the whole gears thing, no idea what I am doing with them.

    Butt hurts a bit, and hands seemed to hurt on occasion maybe I was pressing down on the handlebars, but ill get used to it.
  • MikeP 4 Aug 2013 17:27:44 1,880 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Hmm. Looking to try and hire a CX bike for a little challenge I've got going on at the end of the month but it seems that pretty much no-one does it.

    Mountain bikes (of pretty much any expense), easy, clunkers for pootling around the tourist areas on... simple. Decent road / CX bikes? Apparently no chance.
    You could go down the eBay hire route - buy second hand, sell it on after you've used it?

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  • Psychotext 4 Aug 2013 17:38:48 54,301 posts
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    True, but I know what I'm like, if I liked it I'd end up keeping it... plus, ugh, hassle.
  • MikeP 4 Aug 2013 20:27:58 1,880 posts
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    I did my first day in the frame building workshop on Friday. I was pretty much left alone all day to practice various skills.

    Here's a shot of a fillet braze between two pieces that I put together. I hand filed the tubes to create a nice tight mitre, then tacked, tinned (ran a thin bead of brazing alloy around the joint) and finally laid a fillet for strength.

    This has been roughly shaped and finished. Next time I'll clamp it into a vice and try to break the joint. The tube should bend before the joint fails.



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  • elstoof 4 Aug 2013 21:00:06 7,504 posts
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    Nice looking braze there Mike, good days work!
  • OptimusPube 5 Aug 2013 03:58:42 3,071 posts
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    There's cycling and having at as a hobby and then there's you. ;)

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  • Dougs 5 Aug 2013 08:17:19 68,033 posts
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    Anyone do RideLondon then?!
  • Dougs 5 Aug 2013 08:18:33 68,033 posts
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    FWB wrote:

    I bought a Tricross based on recommendations on here and very, very, very happy with it. Thicker tyres and wider folks mean you can easily take it off road. The drop down and lightweight frame mean you can bomb along on roads. Get the previous year's model and save yourself 400 quid. Paid 550 iirc at the Specialized store, after asking them to price match it online.
    I like my Crosstrail, but I do wish I'd pushed the boat out a bit more and got one of these. Might look to sell mine and get one next year.
  • urban 5 Aug 2013 09:09:35 10,945 posts
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    @Dougs My sisters fiance did it. Looked fairly easy to be honest, all shapes and sizes crossing the line.

    He said it was all about getting past the slower groups and joining a peloton you could barely hang onto, he got onto a really good one but got trapped in the middle and got a double puncture on a downhill (catseye)

    Did it in a respectable 4:49.

    Looked like a considerable amount of people had dropped out though. 17,000 rode out of something like 26,000 entries. Where'd they all go!?

    I'll be putting in for an entry next Monday though, he said it was brilliant bombing around London.

    P.S Boris got heckled hard.

    Edited by urban at 09:10:41 05-08-2013
  • Megapocalypse 5 Aug 2013 09:21:51 5,443 posts
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    Is it Monday that entry is released again? Will definitely be putting in for it.
  • Bi50N Global Brand Manager, Deep Silver 5 Aug 2013 09:24:26 297 posts
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    @Dougs Yup, it was amazing.

    I completed it on the singlespeed with some punchy gearing in 07.09. I thought as a lot of riders were there on charity places I'd see more or other unusual set-ups, but I literally only saw two others on the entire route

    Next year I'll be on the proper bike. Would like to target sub 5 hours, definitely achievable if you get in a fast group - the difference closed roads makes to your speed is incredible - but will need to learn to ride in a fast group.

    I'd say 04.49 is more than 'respectable' - it's still 20mph+ average...

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  • Dougs 5 Aug 2013 09:29:39 68,033 posts
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    Nice, good going! What made you choose a single speed? Or that just what you're riding these days and didn't want to get another just for this?
  • Bi50N Global Brand Manager, Deep Silver 5 Aug 2013 10:08:12 297 posts
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    @Dougs A lot of my friends (of all abilities) applied, but when the dust settled, only Mrs Bison had secured a place and she is more of a recreational cylist! Without company, she would have pulled out. I had to re-apply for a charity place, missed the cut again, then finally picked up a waiting list place with Diabetes UK. I thought it was a bit rich asking for sponsorship for something I really wanted to do, so the singlespeed added the extra layer challenge and evened things out between Laura and I.

    The route was actually fine for SS. Lower gearing would have helped on Leith, but I was grateful for the bigger gear on the last 20 miles in.

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  • elstoof 5 Aug 2013 10:41:01 7,504 posts
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    Props for the sub 5 hour time, that is a good effort. A guy in the club did just over 5 hours solo and he was pleased with that, he's a decent rider too. I'll put my name down next year I think, so if someone can give me a nudge on the day I'll appreciate it :D

    I done a half Swaintoux this morning to compensate, 12 loops of Swains Lane. The guys on the building site halfway up gave a few howls of ridicule/encouragement after they saw me for the 6th time, can't say it helped block the pain much.
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